Art and Obsolescence
Conversations with artists, collectors, and professionals shaping the past, present, and future of art and technology.
Episodes
Pippi Zornoza
A very special episode! Today we are chatting with Pippi Zornoza, co-founder of the Dirt Palace, a feminist artist-run collective/residency program/space that has been a pivotal part of the artistic community in Providence for over 20 years, and this interview is part two of a three part series focused on the Dirt Palace and its two co-founders: Xander Marro and Pippi Zornoza.Pippi’s art and music
Xander Marro
A very special episode! Today we are chatting with Xander Marro, co-founder of the Dirt Palace, "a feminist cupcake encrusted netherworld located along the dioxin filled banks of the Woonasquatucket river, which is to say in Providence, RI USA". The Dirt Palace is a feminist artist-run collective/residency program/space that has been a pivotal part of the artistic community in Providence
Jean Cooney
Help shape the future of the show! Take our listener survey: https://forms.gle/Pr8kThnNUGU6hasF6If you listen to this show chances are you are familiar with some iconic images of time-based media art that has taken place in Times Square — in fact I think perhaps the first image I ever saw of Jenny Holzer’s work was a grainy black and white photo of one of her truisms on display on an LED sign in
Encore presentation: Ian Cheng
Today we are revisiting an episode that aired originally two years ago to the day featuring artist Ian Cheng. This episode was one of our most popular in 2021, so we are pulling it out of the archives for our more recent subscribers to enjoy. Since 2012, Ian has been building a universe of sentient software, creatures, and elaborate systems of logic in the form of self-playing video games, install
Ursula Davila-Villa
In our latest episode we visit with artist legacy specialist Ursula Davila-Villa. In her crucial work, Ursula helps artists and their families put appropriate plans in place to ensure that their work and archives will exist in a way consistent with the artist’s wishes after they are gone. This unique work draws upon conservation, archives, estate planning, curation, and more. Despite how critical
Jill Sterrett
In Episode 68, we sit down with Jill Sterrett, Director of Collections at the Wisconsin Historical Society. Before her tenure in Wisconsin, and even before her time as director at the Smart Museum of Art, Jill dedicated over 28 years to SFMOMA. There, she led the conservation department during its formative years, establishing SFMOMA as a pioneer in the field of time-based media conservation. Thro
Crystal Sanchez
Today we are diving deeper into the world of digital preservation in our visit with Crystal Sanchez, digital archivist for the Smithsonian Institution. So far, over the past two years and sixty six episodes we’ve visited with all kinds of folks involved in different aspects of preservation of works of art — but something we haven’t really looked at closely is the infrastructure that makes all of t
Joanna Phillips
For episode 66 we are back in the conservation lab, visiting with the one and only Joanna Phillips. For any listeners familiar with time-based media conservation, Joanna hardly needs any introduction — she was among the first generation of practitioners in this field, and the second ever time-based media conservator at a US museum. At the Guggenheim Joanna established the first museum time-based
Salome Asega
On today’s show we are visiting with Salome Asega, a true multihyphenate who not only leads New Inc, the New Museum’s incubator for people working at the intersection of art, design, and technology, but who has also maintained a vibrant artistic practice all throughout the years that her career as an arts administrator has been thriving. This might be due to the fact that when you look at Salome’
Nikita Gale
This month we’re in the studio visiting with contemporary artist Nikita Gale. Gale's work employs objects and materials like barricades, concrete, microphone stands, and spotlights to address the ways in which space and sound are politicized. Last year in episode 32 we visited with gallerist Ebony L. Haynes, director of 52 Walker, and it was in preparing for that conversation that I visited t
Carol Mancusi-Ungaro
For this episode we are back in the conservation lab, visiting with Carol Mancusi-Ungaro, Melva Bucksbaum Associate Director for Conservation and Research at the Whitney Museum of American Art. If you were to visit the Whitney today and see the lab and the department that Carol leads, you might find it hard to believe that none of it existed back when she joined the Whitney. In 2001 Carol not only
Shirin Neshat
Today we are visiting with the one and only Shirin Neshat, who hardly needs introduction. If you’ve ever taken an art history class that covers video art, photography, international cinema, or for that matter contemporary opera, you’ve definitely seen Shirin’s work. Since her debut exhibition in 1993 at Franklin Furnace, Shirn’s work has offered a deeply personal yet universal perspective on woman
Eight Artists
We are closing out 2022 with highlights from eight incredible artists that graced the show this year. Tune in to hear the voices of Gary Hill, American Artist, WangShui, Meriem Bennani, Alan Michelson, Tourmaline, Arthur Jafa, and Hito Steyerl discussing how they think about the preservation and documentation of their work, as well as intimate inside glimpses into their practice and studios. Sendi
Hito Steyerl
For our 60th episode, we are visiting with artist, writer, filmmaker, and educator, Hito Steyerl. In addition to being able to find Hito’s work in museums, biennales, collections, and bookshelves all over the world, a good deal of her single-channel moving image work can be watched freely online, which of course is a good thing, but Hito’s work has also explored the darker side of what the global
Rebecca Cleman
This week on the show we are visiting with Rebecca Cleman, executive director of Electronic Arts Intermix. EAI has of coursed already come up on the show many times, and recently in episode 54 we visited with their director of preservation and media collections – today we will be going deeper into this history and evolution of EAI, and getting a look behind the scenes of an organization that has b
Morgane Stricot
This week on the show we are traveling to Karlsruhe, Germany to chat with art conservator Morgane Stricot. You wouldn’t know it considering the technologically complex works of art that she cares for today, but Morgane’s first love in conservation was incredibly traditional, initially being drawn to frescos and murals. Fast forward to today and she is wrapping up a PhD in applying a media archeolo
Martina Haidvogl
This week on the show we travel to Switzerland to visit with media conservator Martina Haidvogl. We’ve heard the conservation program at the Bern Academy of the Arts mentioned a few times on the show so far, as for a long time it was really the only formal conservation training program that had time-based media as a specialization. With time spent in Bern, and as an alum of the Academy of Fine Art
Yuhsien Chen
This week on the show we are continuing to expand our perspective on the time-based media conservation ecosystem in Taiwan, with our guest Yuhsien Chen. In the handfull of years that she has been dedicated to time-based media conservation Yuhsien has been up to some incredibly exciting things. We heard her name come up back in episode 46 when visiting with her colleague and collaborator Tzu-Chuan
Jon Ippolito
Since 1991 when he somewhat accidentally landed a curatorial position at the Guggenheim, Jon Ippolito has been passionately dedicated to building curatorial projects, research initiatives, and collaborations revolving around the preservation of time-based media art. Through projects such as the variable media questionnaire, exhibitions such as Seeing Double, and books such as Re-collection: Art, N
Caroline Gil Rodríguez
This week we’re visiting with media conservator and conservator Caroline Gil Rodríguez, who last year became director of preservation and media collections at the Electronic Arts Intermix. EAI played an incredibly pivotal role in cementing video art’s place in history, and there Caroline is doing exciting work not only to safeguard their important collection, but also to help shape and rethink wha
Paola Antonelli
This week we’re visiting the the one and only Paola Antonelli, senior curator of architecture and design and Director of Research and Development at the Museum of Modern Art. Paola is quite frankly is a legend – not only because she made MoMA’s first ever homepage on the World Wide Web in 1995 – but for decades she has been pushing the envelope and really reshaping what it means for museums to co
Paul Messier
This week’s guest, Paul Messier, is an excellent example of the potential for creativity that lies within the unique brand of entrepreneurship that is running an independent conservation practice. Although working as an independent art conservator comes with many unique challenges (Paul’s journey being no exception) it also has great potential for extending beyond what most people imagine art cons
Debora Bernagozzi
This week on the show we’re visiting with Signal Culture director and co-founder Debora Bernagozzi. In our chat we delve deeply into the niche and history-rich dimension of video art practice where the video signal itself is deconstructed and the flow of electricity becomes a medium that is synthesized, manipulated, and performed by the artist in real-time. We’ll hear all about the incredible work
Arthur Jafa
This week on the show we’re in the artist’s studio visiting the one and only Arthur Jafa. From his extensive work in cinema, to his video art, sculpture, and other mixed media work shown in a contemporary art context – AJ’s work is often an embodiment of Black identity in America, and he is often cited with being a leader among a generation of artists creating defining a distinctly Black cinematic
Flaminia Fortunato
On this week’s show we continue expanding our perspective on the conservation field with contemporary art conservator Flaminia Fortunato. For the past two years Flaminia has served as the Stedelijk Museum’s first-ever time-based media art conservator, and prior to this held fellowships at MoMA, the Brooklyn Museum, and more. In our chat we hear all about Flaminia’s origins growing up in the south
Jochen Saueracker
This week’s guest Jochen Saueracker had some incredible stories to tell – the early decades of his career were spent as a sort of engineer and/or video art roadie for Nam June Paik, traveling all over the world installing complex towers of CRT monitors. Today, in addition to working closely with Shigeko Kubota’s estate to steward her legacy and archive, Jochen works as part of an incredible worksh
Stuart Comer
This week on the show we are visiting the one and only Stuart Comer, chief curator of Media and Performance at the Museum of Modern Art. Stuart is not only prolifically active as a curator at MoMA doing all of the things curators do: building exhibitions, building collections, building relationships with artists, the public, and patrons, etc – but as a department head at a museum the scale of MoMA
Tzu-Chuan Lin
This week on the show we're visiting with another emerging professional in the time-based media conservation field. Tzu-Chuan Lin is currently finishing up a masters degree focused in conservation of new media and digital information at the State Academy of Fine Arts in Stuttgart, and in his studies there, he’s been conducting some very needed research on the documentation and conservation of
Encore presentation: Legacy Russell
We're off this week, re-running our second-ever episode from back in 2021, featuring curator, writer, and director of The Kitchen, Legacy Russell. We're back to our regularly scheduled program with incredible new episodes next week!Get access to exlusive content - join us on Patreon!> https://patreon.com/artobsolescenceJoin the conversation:https://twitter.com/ArtObsolescencehttps://w
Encore presentation: Lynn Hershman Leeson
We're off this week, re-running our second-ever episode from back in 2021, featuring artist Lynn Hershman Leeson. We're back to our regularly scheduled program with incredible new episodes on August 2nd. Get access to exlusive content - join us on Patreon!> https://patreon.com/artobsolescenceJoin the conversation:https://twitter.com/ArtObsolescencehttps://www.instagram.com/artobsolesc
Tourmaline
This week on the show we are in the artist’s studio visiting with the one and only Tourmaline. Tourmaline’s work extends across various media and is a magical blend of a very research-oriented practice that brings history to life, and crafting visions of repose, luxury, relaxation, magic and joy – whether it is in the form of video installations, photography, or fashion. To say that her work is i
Diego Mellado
This week we’re visiting with Diego Mellado, an engineer who works in the service of artists. Diego has a formal technical background as a trained engineer but a long time ago after becoming disillusioned with the corporate world, pivoted to using these skills to support contemporary artists. He has spent the past ten plus years in the studio of artist Daniel Canogar, designing and building elega
Annet Dekker
This week on the show we're visiting with legendary curator and researcher of digital art, Annet Dekker. Annet occupies an incredibly unique and important role within the ecosystem of people that steward time-based media art. In addition to her curatorial work and research, and in many ways serving as a hub and convener within the digital art community, Annet has also serverd for many years
Alan Michelson
This week we're back in the studio visiting an artist. Alan Michelson is a New York based artist and Mohawk member of the six nations of the grand river, a Haudenosaunee community in Southern Ontario. Alan is an astute and passionate student of history – an incredible fountain of historical facts, figures, and stories. His public art, installations, and time-based media works serve as moment
Gaby Wijers
This week’s show features Gaby Wijers – with origins in documenting performance art in the 80s and 90s, as well as leading work in the early 2000s at Montevideo, an important Dutch video art orgnization – Gaby has played an incredibly important role in the ecosystem of time-based media art conservation over several decades, always in very close collaboration with artists, and long before the field
Anna Mladentseva
This week we are visiting with emerging conservation professional Anna Mladentseva. Throughout the course of her undergraduate and masters studies at University College London, Anna has been building some very fresh philosophical and ethical frameworks for how we think about the conservation of software based art, net art in particular, and her perspective is refreshingly grounded in a very sort o
Dragan Espenschied
This week's guest has been incredibly influential in shaping not just how art conservators think about preserving art on the internet, but also in building tools to help them accomplish things we never thought possible. As Rhizome's Preservation Director, Dragan Espenschied is responsible for the preservation of thousands of works of art experienced through the web, accessible to the gen
Mia Matthias
This week we’re visiting with brilliant curator and writer Mia Matthias. Mia’s current role is as a curatorial assistant at the Whitney Museum of American Art, but not for long. No spoilers, but Mia shared some very exciting news during our conversation, and you’ll just have to tune in to find out what it is. Mia’s background, training, and the collection of experiences she’s accrued over the year
Revisiting our conversation with Pip Laurenson
This week we are revisiting our very first-ever episode, featuring one of the time-based media conservation field's foundational thinkers: Pip Laurenson, head of collections care reasearch at the Tate. Tune in to hear how a philosopher-turned stone sculpture conservator went on to become one of the most inflential conservators in time-based media art.Links from the conversation with Pip >
Lauren Cornell
This week on the show we’re visiting with Lauren Cornell, chief curator at the Hessel Museum and director of the graduate program at the Center for Curatorial Studies, Bard college. As a curator at Bard, the New Museum, Rhizome and beyond, Lauren has had a life-long dedication to time-based media art; as well as a passion for growing, shaping, and building arts institutions. Tune in to hear Lauren
Meriem Bennani
This week we’re visiting with artist Meriem Bennani – by popular demand! Meriem has been one of the most requested guests, and is a personal favorite, so we simply had to have her on the show. Meriem effortlessly weaves cartoonish slapstick humor into her videos and animations, even when she is taking on dead serious topics. Her work is accessible and inviting, and her work is equally at home on s
Richard Bloes
This week we’re visiting with someone who quite possibly has the longest running career in installing and maintaining time based media art installations. Richard Bloes has served as an AV technician at the Whitney Museum of American art for over 41 years, and has accrued an incomparable wealth of knowledge. If there is a potential way for an artwork to malfunction, break or be installed incorrectl
WangShui
This week on the show we’re visiting with brilliant artist WangShui, whose work prominently featured in this year’s Whitney Biennial is very much a continuation of their introspection and exploration of post-humanism, trans identity, and human/machine collaboration – in the form of etchings and paintings on aluminum performed in collaboration with a carefully cultivated AI collaborator, and a real
Emma Dickson
This week on the show we’re visiting with conservation technician, software developer, hardware hacker, and artist Emma Dickson, who you may recall as the guest host of Episode 010 with Shu Lea Cheang. Ever since their first foray into the field working to analyze and restore Shu-Lea’s legendary net art piece Brandon at the Guggenheim as part of their Conservation of Computer Based Art initiative,
Ebony L. Haynes
This week on the show we are visiting with brilliant gallerist Ebony L. Haynes, who founded and runs 52 Walker, a David Zwirner gallery. As you'll hear in this episode, Ebony has crafted a space where she and the artists she works with are doing things differently. The installations are large, ambitious, and not exactly easy to collect — involving virtually every fathomable medium: multichann
The Advice Episode
Over the first nine months and thirty episodes of this little podcast we have heard the stories of some incredible guests: artists, curators, collectors, conservators, and more – and the nuggets of wisdom that they have shared along the way have been truly invaluable. This week we're trying something a little bit new, and we’re calling it The Advice Episode - compiled on this week’s show are
Lori Emerson
Although the role that technology plays in a work of art can sometimes be fluid and flexible, stewardship of time-based media art still requires material connoisseurship: a deep understanding and appreciation for the medium, its artistic possibilities and limitations. This week’s guest Lori Emerson, has built an academic body of work steeped in just that sort of connoisseurship, rooted in the worl
Pavel Pyś
This week, we visit with Pavel Pyś, Curator of Visual Arts at the Walker Art Center. Much like The Walker itself, Pavel's curatorial practice is incredibly interdisciplinary. Although he certainly doesn’t label himself a curator of digital art, media art, or performing arts, it just so happens that for Pavel much of the important artists you'll find him working with at The Walker and bey
Shu-Wen Lin
On this week’s show we chat with time-based media conservator Shu-Wen Lin who has led an incredibly prolific career over the past five years or so, serving as the very first time based media conservator at numerous institutions, and working in museums in over four different countries – including Hong Kong, Taipei, Canada, and the USA. Prior to working as a time-based media conservator Shu-Wen also
Patricia Falcão
This week on the show we sit down with time-based media art conservator and doctoral researcher Patricia Falcão. Through her many years of work and research at the Tate, and elsewhere, Patricia has been massively contributing to how our field approaches the acquisition, documentation, and long term care of software-based works of art. Tune in to hear the winding road that led Patricia from traditi
Alain Servais
This week on the show we are diving back into exploring what it looks like to collect time-based media art outside of institutions, by chatting with another collector who has developed a real passionate focus on time-based media art. Alain Servais has been collecting digital art for many many years, and not only lives among the work in his home in Brussels, but also operates a loft space specifica
Magda Sawon
This week's episode features pioneering gallerist Magda Sawon, who together with her husband and business partner Tamas Banovich has been running Postmasters gallery since 1984. Postmasters hardly needs introduction – it is a veritable New York institution, and an incredibly important piece of the puzzle when looking at how time-based media art (and especially digital art) exists within the
Raina Mehler
This week on the show we sit down with Raina Mehler, who is leading the way for how one of the largest contemporary art enterprises in the world manages the challenging needs of time-based media art installations. Tune in to hear all about Raina’s work as a registrar establishing Pace Gallery's internal practices for installing, shipping, tracking, and caring for time-based media art, what it
Farris Wahbeh
This week on the show we take our first foray into an incredibly important pillar of the long term care of art: how we document, catalog, and care for archives. Our guest Farris Wahbeh is the Benjamin and Irma Weiss Director of Research Resources at the Whitney Museum of American Art. Farris’ role is quite unique in the sense that he oversees and serves as a central hub for all of the various team
American Artist
On this week’s show we sit down with the one and only American Artist, whose brilliant practice places a critical lens on technology and systems, often as a means by which to discuss the forms of systemic racism, control, and manipulation that become coded into the world. In our chat we’ll hear about _____________’s origins as an artist and graphic designer, and how their work extends across resea
Christine Frohnert
This week on the show we chat with an art conservator who has been pivotal in formalizing the field of time-based media conservation over the past two decades: Christine Frohnert. When Christine immigrated to the US in 2005 she was the only conservator who had training in time-based media conservation – and she got to work quickly! Through her private practice with partner Reinhard Bek, her leade
Gary Hill
This week we chat with contemporary artist, and pioneer of video art, Gary Hill. For many Gary needs no introduction – he was among the first generation of artists to explore television and the video signal as a creative medium in the early 1970s. Through video sculptures, installations, and single-channel works, Gary explores the phenomenological, language, and the body’s relationship to technolo
Bridget Donahue
This week on the show we sit down with gallerist and curator Bridget Donahue. If you know Bridget it’s likely through her gallery’s sharp programming and the impactful work she has done over the years to help steward the careers of time-based media artists like Sondra Perry, Martine Syms, and Lynn Hershman Leeson – but did you know that Bridget got her start in the gallery world as an archivist? T
Cy X
This week’s show features artist, musician, herbalist, and community builder Cy X, whose work encompasses installations, digital instrument building, live audiovisual performances, and their broader interdisciplinary practice blurs boundaries between art, community building (Including co-founding Synth Library NYC), healing work, and music. Tune in to hear Cy’s journey from working in marketing t
sasha arden
Continuing our coverage of emerging professionals, sasha arden will soon be graduating as one of the first conservators from the NYU Conservation Center's recently established time-based media conservation program. sasha is hardly new to the field though, having spent over a decade meeting the audiovisual needs of numerous institutions prior to making the pivot to conservation. Tune in to hea
Tina Rivers Ryan
This week on the show we sit down with curator Tina Rivers Ryan – one of the preeminent curators mapping contemporary artistic practices engaged with the digital, and keeping the flame of digital art history alive. In this in-depth conversation we delve into Tina's evolution as a curator, and many of the particularities of curatoring digital art. As well, Tina is one of the few thinkers out t
Rafael Lozano-Hemmer
This week on the show we visit with the one and only Rafael Lozano-Hemmer, whose software-based artwork spans from massive outdoor interactive public art, to more domestic-scale works that can be found in galleries and art fairs all over the world. Rafael has been making both intellectually and technically challenging work for decades, and in this chat we’ll hear about his roots as young artist wo
Christiane Paul
This week features legendary curator of digital art, Christiane Paul. It would be fair to say that digital art is having a moment these days, so who better to provide some context than the curator who quite literally wrote the book on it. From publishing a glossy quarterly magazine on digital art and hypertext in the 90s (Intelligent Agent), to her extensive curatorial work at the Whitney Museum o
Asti Shering
This week’s show features art conservator Asti Sherring, who for the past ten years has played a leading role in developing the time-based media conservation community in Australia. Tune in to this week’s episode to hear how Asti went from saving up her summer job money as a fourteen year old to go on an archaeological dig in Italy, to being the first time-based media conservator at the Art Galler
Tommy Martinez
This week on the show my guest is Tommy Martinez, artist, musician, composer, and a technician who has helped countless artists bring their vision to life. Formerly, Tommy was Director of Technology of Pioneer Works where he ran an incredible residency program. In our chat we cover so much ground, discussing what it means to document site-specific sound installations, the broken system of attribut
Barbara London
This week on the show our guest is the one and only Barbara London. Since she began her career at MoMA in 1973 and collected the museum’s first video art in 1975, Barbara has had an immeasurable impact on the field of time-based media art – from her 1979 exhibition “Video from Tokyo to Fukui and Kyoto” to her phenomenal new book “Video art: the first fifty years”. Listen in on our conversation to
Shu Lea Cheang
This week’s show features legendary net art pioneer Shu Lea Cheang, interviewed by our very first guest host, Emma Dickson. Together they discuss the conservation of Shu Lea’s piece Brandon (1998-1999), how the remnants and ephemera of creative practice lives in archives, institutional link rot, and Shu Lea’s fruitful decades long collaboration with a programmer whom she’s never met.Links from the
Kayla Henry-Griffin
This week’s show features emerging conservation professional Kayla Henry-Griffin, currently in their final year of graduate studies at NYU. Tune in to hear about Kayla’s journey from optics and physics to their current research around the intersection of Black and queer community archive practices and video game preservation. Links from the conversation with Kayla> Kayla's website: https:/
Robert Rosenkranz
This week's show offers an inside glimpse into a major private collection of time-based media art, as we chat with Robert Rosenkranz. Come along for a walking tour of a home in the mountains of Aspen, purpose built for living with time-based media art. We'll hear about the unique challenges of collecting and living with time-based media, what Robert looks for when he's considering a
Chrissie Iles
On this week's show we chat with curator Chrissie Iles, who since 1997 has been the Anne & Joel Ehrenkranz Curator at the Whitney Museum of American Art in New York City, where she has built a singular collection of time-based media art. In this extended chat with host Ben Fino-Radin, Chrissie tells the tale of how she built this amazing collection, her general approach and philosophy as
Ian Cheng
On this week's show we chat with artist Ian Cheng, who since 2012 has been building a universe of sentient software, creatures, and elaborate systems of logic in the form of self-playing video games, installations, drawings, and prints. In this extended chat with host Ben Fino-Radin, Ian shares some of his deepest influences, past mentors, childhood, studio practice and rituals for creativity
Glenn Wharton
On this week's show I chat with art conservator Glenn Wharton, who years ago was MoMA's first-ever time-based media conservator, and the fist museum conservator specializing in time-based media in the US. Today Glenn is the Lore and Gerald Cunard Chair, UCLA/Getty Program in the Conservation of Cultural Heritage and Professor of Art History and Conservation of Material Culture.Links from
Pam Kramlich
The Kramlichs began collecting time-based media thirty years ago, and eventually they asked the question: what would a home look like if it were purpose-built for living with their collection? On this episode we'll not only get to hear the story of what inspired Pam to focus on collecting this challenging medium so early on, but also the treat of a walking tour of the Kramlich's residen
Legacy Russell
Host Ben Fino-Radin chats with curator and author Legacy Russell. Legacy's recent book Glitch Feminism offers "a new manifesto for cyberfeminism: finding liberation in the glitch between body, gender, and technology". We discuss Legacy's origins as a curator, the book, and her vision for The Kitchen where she is the incomming director and chief curator.
Lynn Hershman Leeson
For decades, Lynn was told that she wasn't an artist. That whatever it was she was doing, it most certainly wasn't art. Neverthelss she persisted, and her story is truly one of perseverance, as today Lynn's work can be found in art history books, art galleries, museums and private collections all over the world. Lynn's exhibition at the New Museum is open until October 3rd 2021
Pip Laurenson
For the debut episode host Ben Fino-Radin chats with one of foundational figures in the history of time-based media conservation: Pip Laurenson. Pip is the head of collections care research at the Tate.Authenticity, Change and Loss in the Conservation of Time-Based Media Installations: https://www.tate.org.uk/research/publications/tate-papers/06/authenticity-change-and-loss-conservation-of-time-ba
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