The Art Of The Interview
Interviewing people is an art. The ability to sit across from someone and create a safe, intimate space for them to share their feelings, thoughts, and ideas is a powerful skill. This podcast explores the subtle and intricate skill of interviewing through the lens of psychology, science, religion, and other disciplines. The goal is to become better interviewers, whether interviewing the President of the United States or getting coffee with a friend.
Episodes
Episode 64 | How To Frame Your Interview
Like a photograph, the quality of the frame will make an interview better or worse. In this week's episode, I talk about the many ways I frame interviews before, during, and after the interview is complete, and how that makes for a better interview.
I break down my tried methods for creating a safe, comfortable environment for your interviewees while also maximizing the technical quality of y
Episode 63 | How Much Should I Talk About Myself In An Interview?
Ever gone on a date with someone who only talks about themselves? Me neither. But that would be obnoxious, on a date or while being interviewed.
In this episode, I talk about how much it's appropriate to talk about yourself, your story, your thoughts, and your agenda while interviewing someone. Surprisingly, it's more nuanced than you might think.
YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/
Episode 62 | Three Mindsets To Adopt For Better Interviews
Your mindset will influence how your interview. In this week's episode, I talk about three essential mindsets to practice to get better interviews.
YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg73E-2NebZvD0df2JCEt8w
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2tzoxgGJLmzVfSg0vwFQz4
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-art-of-the-interview/id1542998239
Episode 61 | How To Step Into Empathy When You Feel Only Antipathy
Everyone knows the experience of sitting across from someone who you disagree with and feel animosity towards. In this week's episode, I talk about five steps to help you step out of antipathy and into empathy so you can have better interviews and conversations with people who you just don't see eye to eye.
YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg73E-2NebZvD0df2JCEt8w
Spotify:
Episode 60 | 12 Reasons We Need To Ask Better Questions in 2024
The Art of the Interview is back! Starting in February 2024, I'll be hosting a weekly episode and releasing it every Tuesday.
In this week's episode, I talk about twelve reasons why I think asking better questions is essential to being human in 2024 (in addition to just giving me something to podcast about). From expanding empathy to increasing both tolerance and intolerance (yes, you hear
Episode 59 | From The Library | How To Successfully Delegate Your Video and Audio Responsibilities
In this episode, I talk about why you should delegate your tech responsibilities and, if you do, how to go about it. I tell two stories from The Art of the Interview by Lawrence Grobel about times his delegation has gone wrong and talk about what we can learn from it.
Through this episode, you'll understand why it's important to give away as many of the technical responsibilities you can. You'll a
Episode 58 | From The Library | Why You Should Do Research Before Your Interviews | Part 2
In this episode, I talk more about why research is (for most interviewers) essential to getting the best interview you can. I also read a passage from The Art of the Interview by Lawrence Grobel about how research is essential to knowing the right questions to ask.
Through this episode, you'll get some fresh ideas of how to do research on your interviewees no matter the subject you're interv
Episode 57 | From The Library | Why You Should Do Research Before Your Interviews
In this episode, I talk about why research is (for most interviewers) essential to getting the best interview they can. In it, I read a passage from The Art of the Interview by Lawrence Grobel about his research philosophy.
Through this episode, you'll get some fresh ideas of how to do research on your interviewees no matter the subject you're interviewing them about. You'll also have a soli
Episode 56 | From The Library | How To Be A Better Sports Interviewer
In this episode, I talk about how to be a better sports interviewer. I base my tips off of an anecdote in The Art of the Interview by Lawrence Grobel about ESPN interviewer Roy Firestone. The book makes two important points about Firestone's style:
He is curious about the entire human, not just their sports ability
He is positive in his approach to interviewing them
By listening to this episod
Episode 54 | Interviewology | How To Hold The Space for Absolutely Anything
This episode explores one of the central interviewing techniques I talk about on this podcast: "holding the space." It answers the questions of:
What is "holding space" during an interview?
What does it mean?
What does it not mean?
Why is it important?
How does it fit in with your overall purpose as an interviewer?
This episode will unpack this somewhat abstract topic of holding the spac
Episode 55 | From The Library | Following The Energy and Genuine Curiosity
In this episode, I take two prompts from The Art Of The Interview by Lawrence Gobel and explore the two subjects of:
Following the energy
The importance of having genuine curiosity.
This episode explores two central techniques of interviewing that are used by one of the best interviewers in the world (as well as yours truly!). By listening to this episode, you'll be able to better know when to
Episode 53 | Interviewing Q&A | Should I Be Formal or Conversational In My Interviews?
In the same way that you speak to different people in different styles, different interviewing styles help to create safety, comfort, and intimacy on an interviewing set. In this episode, I explore how to choose the style of conversation based on three elements:
Your Interviewee
Your Audience
Your Medium
Thinking about your style in the context of these three things will help you identify wh
Episode 50 | Interviewing 201 | 7 Tips To Doing Successful Pre-Interviews
If you're going to do a pre-interview, you should do it well. Pre-interviews can be powerful ways to build intimacy and discover where to focus in the interview before you ever show up with you interviewee.
In this episode, I talk about seven tips for rocking your pre-interviews, including:
Do it well before the interview takes place
Be totally present
Focus less on ideas, more on story
Fol
Episode 52 | Interviewing 101 | 11 Tips That Work for Interviews And Coffee Dates
There's a lot in common between interviews and coffee dates. And many of the same techniques that work for building intimacy and trust in one work well in the other too.
In this episode, I talk about eleven crossover skills that you can use both as an interview as well as when you're just out for coffee with a friend...or a family member...or a good-natured clown. They're all the same.
Be on tim
Episode 51 | Interviewing 201 | How To Hold The Space For Anything
As humans we have preferences and prejudices. But as interviews, we have a responsibility to hold whatever comes. And sometimes our prejudices and preferences can get in the way of being fully present with someone who we're interviewing.
In this episode, I talk about t what it means and what it doesn't mean to hold the space for someone in your interview. I finish up with a call to all interviewer
Episode 49 | Interviewing 101 | How To Calm Your Mind Before and During An Interview
Who out there experiences monkey mind before or during an interview?
What do I ask them once I get on set?
What do I ask next?
How do I transition subjects?
Oh no, I made them angry! How do I get them to be not-angry at me?
Oh no! I didn't even hear the last two minutes of what they said because I was lost in my thoughts!
Monkey mind running the show is the number-one enemy of being present with y
Episode 48 | How To Use Silence In Your Interviews | A Special Easter Weekend Episode
It's Easter Saturday - the lesser talked about middle day of the Easter Weekend. And what's so special about Easter Saturday that nobody really talks about it?
Well, it's the day that God was silent.
Silence can be scary. But used well, it can heighten the power of the speech that follows or came before.
The day of silence between the Friday where Christ was crucified and the Sunday that Chr
Episode 47 | A Special Gift For My Podcast Audience
Recently my short film The Witness was selected for the International Christian Film and Music Festival, one of the largest faith-based film festivals in the world.
And I'm giving you early access to see it.
Why? During the production of this film, I put into practice many of the techniques that I talk about on this podcast. And in this episode, I talk about the story behind the People Proje
Episode 46 | Interviewing Q&A | What To Do When Your Interviewee Gets Cold Feet
What do you do when an interviewee (sometimes a central interviewee!) suddenly gets nervous and gets cold feet about the interview? How do you navigate the emotional intricacies that are involved in getting someone to feel comfortable and safe doing an interview with you?
In this episode, I talk about some techniques that I used to talk down my interviewees and restore their confidence in the proc
Episode 45 | Interviewing In The Raw | 3 Interviewing Tips I'm Not Good At...But Still Work
There's a lot of good interviewers in the world, many of them better than I am! And recently I've been reading about some of their tips and tricks to be better at interviewing, and I've been realizing I have a lot of room to grow.
In this episode, I talk about three interviewing tips in which I could definitely improve:
Stay Silent After An Interviewee Finishes Their Answer
Don't Ask Multiple Q
Episode 44 | Interviewing Q&A | To Pre-Interview Or Not Pre-Interview
Should I do a pre-interview or not? What even is a pre-interview, and why can the help or hinder my interview?
In this episode, I talk about some of the objections to doing pre-interviews and why, in my opinion, they're still a powerful way to get to the heart of a subject and an interviewee - if you do them right:
DO talk to them before you show up on set - not when you get there
DON'T probe t
Episode 43 | Interviewing Q&A | 7 Interviewing Tips for Documentary Videos and Films
Documentary is my favorite type of interview. Getting the opportunity to sit across from someone and dig into their life or subject of choice is like drinking a cup of coffee in the early hours watching the sunrise - no matter how many times you do it, it gets better every time.
In this episode, I talk about my seven tips on doing the best documentary video interviews that you can do:
If possibl
Episode 42 | Interviewing Q&A | How To End Your Interview With A Bang (Not Literally, Of Course...)
There are a lot of people who answer the question of how to start your interview, but fewer people ask how to end your interview with a bang.
In fact, ending of your interview well is equally as important as a solid start. It's the time when you wrap up, sum up, and invite the person you're interviewing to really dig deep and summarize what they're all about.
In this episode, I talk about the best
Episode 42 - Interviewing Q&A - How To Talk Like An Interviewer
Are you starting up an interview series but frustrated that your voice doesn't sound like everybody else in the interviewing sphere?
Don't be. Actually there's many different styles, cadences, and voice types in the world of podcasts, YouTube shows, and interviews.
That said, there are a few things you can do to improve your delivery and connect with your guest and audience in a better way. In thi
Episode 41 | Interviewing Q&A | How To Prepare for your First Interview
You've scheduled your guest, and you're gnawing at your fingernails waiting for the day when you're going to do the interview.
What do you do while you wait?
In this episode, I talk about four things I would do if I were going back to the beginning and doing my first interview all over again. And really, it's four things you could do for any interview, whether it's your first or fifth or your fift
Episode 40 | Interviewing Q&A | How To Be A Good Interviewee (Or How To Direct Your Interviewee)
An interviewer is only as good as their interviewee. So much of what an interviewer does is empowering the interviewee to be the best interview subject that they can be. And that's why, as an interviewee, sometimes it's helpful to know exactly what makes for a good interview right off the bat before you even begin.
That said, these are a few tips for you would-be interviewees that can help you to
Episode 39 | Interviewing Q&A | How Long Should My Interview Be?
Should I go long or stay short? Long-form interviewing or short-form? Should I record long and edit short? What should the final duration of my podcast/video/media be?
In this episode, I talk interview and media length. I argue that, essentially, there's no universally right answer to these questions but that, instead, you should base your length off of the needs and value it creates for your audi
Episode 38 | Transformational Interviewing | Transformational Interviewing and the Importance of Re-Listening To Your Interviews
Have you ever wondered why you're not getting the kind of interviews that you know are possible? Me too. And recently I had an experience where I was listening back to one of my interviews as a listener and it hit me like a load of bricks.
I haven't been empowering my interviewee to have the transformation that's possible for them. The interviews, instead, have been all about me.
In this episode,
Episode 37 | Your First Interview | Part 3 - Three Types of Questions to Ask In Your First Interview
Oh no! You've been asked or assigned to do an interview for your company, business, or for a friend. And let me guess, you don't even know where to start!
Well, you could start here. In this episode, I talk through three powerful types of questions you can use in your first interview:
Story questions
Feel, thought, and experience questions
Evangelist questions
These three types of questions a
Episode 36 | Your First Interview | Part 2 - Three Interviewing Skills To Bring To Your First Interview
Oh no! You've been asked or assigned to do an interview for your company, business, or for a friend. And let me guess, you don't even know where to start!
Well, you could start here. In this episode, I talk through three of the most skills that you can bring to your first interview:
How to direct your interviewee
How to write good questions
How to get your interviewee to tell you what you're
Episode 35 | Your First Interview | Part 1 - Three Mindsets to Bring To Your First Interview
Oh no! You've been asked or assigned to do an interview for your company, business, or for a friend. And let me guess, you don't even know where to start!
Well, you could start here. In this episode, I talk through three of the most orientations that you can bring to your first interview:
Being Curious
Being Intentional
Doing Research
If you can adopt these three orientations, it's very like
Episode 34 | Interviewing 101 | Sensing and Following the Energy
One of the most important things in doing an interview is to be curious. But how do you know which direction to take the interview and your curiosity? In this episode, I talk about one of the central skills of being able to know where to take an interview - sensing and following the energy. Essentially, it's learning to how be energetically connected to your interviewee and sense where there's the
Episode 33 | Interviewing Q&A | How Do I Structure An Interview?
In this episode, I migrate to my kitchen and answer one of the most common questions (according to Google!) about interviewing: How do I structure an interview?
In the episode, I make four points about structure.
Adapt your structure to your interviewee.
Start near the heart.
Have a structure, but don't be afraid to adapt.
End strong.
Ultimately, you should have a structure, but never let
Episode 32 | Interviews In Review | Rocking A Marketing Interview through Setting the Container and Following The Energy
Sometimes you learn things from an interview by doing poorly, sometimes you're reaffirmed in your technique by killing it.
In this episode, I cover three ways I rocked a recent marketing interview. I talk about how I successfully set the container and followed the energy right to the place that the interviewee wanted to go, ultimately ending up in a fantastic interview and some great sound bytes t
Episode 31 | Interviewing 101 | Three Things NOT To Do During An Interview
In this episode, I get a little bit excited about some recent unexpected developments with the podcast...
Oh, and I also talk about three things not to do in your interviews. From my own painful experiences.
Episode 30 | Interviewing In The Raw | Why Should You Care What I Have To Say
When you're not the greatest at something in the world, why should someone listen to you? For instance, myself. Many people who might listen to this podcast have likely done more interviews than I have over the years. I've studied interviewing officially, and there are plenty of people who likely are way better at it than I am!
So why listen to me?
In this podcast, I get a little personal about wh
Episode 29 | Interviewing 101 | What Makes a Good (And Bad) Interview In My Opinion
What makes a good or a bad interview? This is a highly subjective question. However, as someone who listens to and does quite a few interviews, there are a few things I personally like and don't like in the interviews that I consume.
In this episode, I explore a few of my own personal tastes regarding what differentiates what I think makes an interview that rocks...from one that flops.
Episode 28 | Interviewing 101 | The Quickest Way To Get Way More Focused on the Interview
What is the quickest way to increase your focus on the interview and drastically improve the quality of the material that you get?
Delegate your tech responsibilities to someone else.
A cameraperson.
An audio recorder.
A producer, cinematographer, whatever.
Get rid of the need for you to focus on the tech and focus entirely on the interviewee.
In this episode, I argue that one of the best things f
Episode 27 | Interviewing 101 | How To Get Interviewees To Tell You Captivating Stories
Have you ever had a really boring interviewee? Someone who no matter what you tried was just stuck in fight-flight-freeze and wouldn't give you a good story or audio byte?
We've all been there. However, the good news is that there are some very practical ways to get people like this to tell an evocative story. And in this episode, I talk about one of them: slowing down time.
Episode 25 | Interviews In Review | Creating the Container and Staying Curious During Marketing Interviews
Do you ever feel like there's an interview where you just knock it out of the park?
Well, just yesterday I did an interview where I felt like that. I did my research, set up the container well, took control of the interview, and got some amazing sound bytes and really connected with my interviewee.
In this episode, I talk about that interview, in particular how to stay curious and keep it fresh du
Episode 24 | Interviewing 101 | Holding Space VS. Fixing Problems
Anyone who is married will understand this statement: there's a big difference between really listening and fixing problems. And when there's a mismatch between what a spouse needs and what you're trying to provide, it's a quick recipe for a conversation to go awry!
And what is that difference? One is fixing problems, and one is creating a container.
In this episode, I talk about this differ
Episode 23 | Interviewing 101 | How To Deal With Anxiety Before and During An Interview
Am I the only one who gets nervous before I do an interview? Probably not! And for years I asked myself the question, "How do I get rid of this nervousness and anxiety that I experience before an interview?"
And then it hit me, and ever since I answered that question, dealing with the nervousness and anxiety has been much, much easier.
If you, like me, find yourself getting nervous before your int
Episode 22 | Interviews In Review | Asking Hard Questions in a Marketing Video Interview
A marketing interview is one of the toughest interview types to get sincerity because you have a purpose - you're trying to get a marketing message to talk about a company.
How do you ask questions that are on one hand directed toward the answers that you want but at the same time elicit sincere and emotional answers?
How do you inspire the interviewee to give you their all instead of just telling
Episode 21 | Interviewing in the Raw | My Struggle To Ask The Hard Questions
I'm going to be honest with you, friends. I struggle to ask the "hard questions." And I'm not even talking about asking hostile, attacking questions that get juicy little audio bytes and do nothing to genuinely get to the core of an interviewee. I'm talking about asking questions that really open up the bottle on a person's powerful emotions - because that's where an interview gets good and where
Episode 20 | Interviews In Review | Preparing, Adapting, and Setting Intentions for a Marketing Interview
Interviews don't always have to be for an audience - sometimes they're just to retrieve information! But whatever the desired outcome, many of the same techniques apply for getting rockin' interviews in the can.
Recently I interviewed one of the ideal customers of a client who I'm designing a marketing funnel for. And it turned out excellent in many ways, I think, because of some of the interview
Episode 19 | Interviewology | How To Remain Impartial...When You're Not.
There's several different schools in interviewing and reporting:
The old school: Interview the subject, and do your best to report just the facts and what they said - you stay out of it
The new school: Bring in your partiality and slant to the interview and the reporting style - put yourself into it
The real difference between these schools is how they address the question of partiality.
Ho
Episode 19 | Interviewology | Discipline, Manipulation, and Influence: Control and Power In an Interview
Control is a negative buzzword in today's culture.
Controlling spouses. Controlling governments. Controlling religions. Control, control, control, I don't want to be controlled!
But actually, healthy control is essential to being a healthy human being and a quality interviewer.
But what's the difference between unhealthy and healthy control, both in general and in an interview?
In this episode, I
Episode 18 | Interviewing 101 | 6 Surprising Places To Research Information On Interviewees
Some people are easy to research. Say if you're interviewing Ryan Reynolds. Or Meg Ryan. Or Ryan Meganolds. Wait...
Other people are not so easy to do research on. Say that one local business owner who has a good heart but thinks the internet will steal his soul. Or that Mennonite family that lives totally off the grid except for their once-a-week email check at the local library.
How in the moder
Episode 17 | Documentary in Review | Into the Abyss
I recently watched Werner Herzog's documentary Into The Abyss. The film is a powerful look at the lives of a criminal on death row and the people who were affected by his supposed crimes.
One interesting thing about Werner Herzog is that, unlike many filmmakers, he includes some of his interview questions in the final film. Which is slightly odd stylistically, but great for me analyzing his interv
Episode 16 | Special New Years Resolutions Episode
New years resolutions, Art of the Interview style...
I'll see you all in 2021!
Episode 15 | Interviewing 101 | How To Start Your Interviews Strong
The first question in an interview is vital. With the first question you set the tone of the interview, generate rapport and trust, and continue the process of creating a container of intimacy for the interview. So you don't want to screw it up!
In this episode, I talk about some different ways to start the interview strong...and some ways not to start the interview!
Hopefully this will spark your
Episode 14 | Interviewing 101 | 5 Ways To Step Up an Lead Your Interviews
When you go into an interview, you're the leader. You're setting the direction and guiding the interviewee through the experience. If you're not in the lead, they won't know where to go, and subconsciously they're going to shut down and not give you the answers that you're looking for.
In this interview, I talk about my own experience embracing leadership as an interviewer. I also talk about 5 les
Episode 13 | Interviewing 101 | How to Direct An Interviewee Before an Interview
Do you ever take a few minutes before to direct and orient your interviewees related to the coming interview? If not, you should. Likely they're uncertain and unconfident, and giving them this little bit of direction can go a long way to making them feel safe, comfortable, and relaxed enough to give you a good performance once you start.
In this episode, I cover, first, why it's important to do so
Episode 12 | Interviewing 101 | What My and Tim Ferris' Interviewing Style Have In Common
I know it's a little presumptuous of me to compare myself with Tim Ferris, but I know one thing we do have in common.
We both focus heavily on the pre-interview.
In this episode, I talk about why doing pre-interview research and preparation is essential to getting a good interview. I also talk about my own pre-interview history and style, plus I talk about what Tim Ferris does (which, by the way,
Episode 11 | Interviewing 101 | 3 Tips That Work Great for Interviews... And Also Coffee Dates
There's quite a bit of crossover between what works well in an interview and what works well in a casual conversation over coffee. A lot of techniques to create safety and intimacy can readily apply to both, and personally I use them in both areas quite often.
In this episode, I talk about three such techniques that can easily be translated from the interview to the coffee shop. With these three t
Episode 10 | Interviewology | 3 Spiritual and Philosophical Assumptions I Bring To My Interviews
We are the product of deeply-seated beliefs, feelings, and assumptions that we believe about ourselves, others, and the universe. And whether we acknowledge it or not, we bring these assumptions into how we conduct ourselves in our interviews.
In this episode, I explore 3 conscious assumptions I try to bring into the interviews that I do.
1) That people are foundationally good
2) That
Episode 9 | Interviewing 101 | How To Deal With Difficult Emotions During An Interview
How do you handle difficult emotions, both inside yourself as well as when an interviewee experiences them during an interview? When someone gets angry, sad, hopeless, or inordinately elated during an interview, sometimes it can be difficult to know what to "do" or how to deal with the power of the emotions they're expressing!
In this episode, I explore one of the psychological foundations of my i
Episode 8 | Interviews In Review | What To Do (And What Not To Do) When You Get Self-Conscious During An Interview
Interviewers are humans too. And sometimes something happens which makes you, the interviewer, get very self-conscious during the interview. When this happens, it becomes very difficult to be present with your interviewee, hold the container, and ask the right questions!
In this interview, I tell a story about one such interview where this happened to me during an interview with two managing partn
Episode 7 | Interviewing 101 | Respect The Ask And Give
If there was one internal shift I would have interviewers make it would be this:
Respect the ask and give of what's being exchanged between you and the interviewer.
This ability is huge to our ability to create a safe, comfortable, and intimate space where an interviewer feels open to giving you their true feelings, thoughts, and experiences.
And in this episode, I go in depth what this looks like
Episode 6 | Interviews In Review | Engaging Introverted Interviewees and What To Do When The Interview Gets A Little Dull
Two days ago I interviewed a couple who host children in need through a local social services agency I'm creating videos for. The wife was highly introverted, and there was at least once during the interview that it careened in a dangerously dull direction because of a misplaced question I had asked. These are both common struggles for interviewers!
And so, in this episode I give at least one solu
Episode 5 | Interviewing 101 | 5 Ways To Prepare Before An Interview
Preproduction makes production makes post-production. It's one of my favorite and most-said aphorisms from the video production process. If you do the legwork before the shoot you're much more likely to capture quality material than if you just show up day-of and try to wing it which will mean that the post-production process will be easier and turn out much better of a piece of media.
Interviewin
Episode 4 | Interviewing 101 | 5 Lessons I've Learned From Doing Hundreds of Interviews
I've done hundreds of interviews over the course of my career for video production projects, documentary films, news stories, live on-air talk shows, and non-recorded pre-interviews.
But what's more important to me is the response that I get from the people that I interview. They describe interviewing with me as "fun" and "relaxing" and "way less stressful than they thought that it was going to be
Episode 3 | Introduction | Who Should Care About Interviews? (Hint, It's Probably You!)
"It's great that you care so much about interviewing, Will, but why should I care? I don't have to interview anyone for my job or in my personal life!"
Well, odds are you probably do! Or at minimum you do things that could be greatly improved by learning and applying many of the tips, tricks, tools, and principles that make someone a better interviewer!
In this episode, Will explores exactly who w
Episode 2 | Introduction | Why I Care About Interviews (My Story)
How many of you want to create media that is both beautiful and powerful? Media which enthralls people with your technical prowess, moves people's hearts, and changes them for the better?
Me too.
But what about media which is ethical? We don't often think about the ethics behind the media that we create and how we create it.
In this episode, I share my journey from my childhood dream of filmmakin
Episode 1 | Introduction | What Is An Interview?
There are many different types of interviews. News interviews. Podcast interviews. Or just having coffee with a friend - that's an interview. And what I've found over years of doing them is that many of the same principals apply to all the different types.
In this episode, I define what an interview is for the purposes of this podcast. Then I explain why I think that being mindful of in
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