The Rollup
The Rollup is a podcast where leaders in digital assets and finance converge, hosted by Robbie and Andy. It covers topics at the intersection of digital assets and capital markets, featuring interviews and discussions with industry experts. The show is broadcast live from the financial capital of the world, New York City.
Episodes
Cysic Founder: Why The Compute Market Is Getting Ready to Explode (Biggest In The World)
Leo Fan breaks down why the real bottleneck in AI isn't model intelligence but a persistent GPU shortage driving up inference costs, even as open-source models from China close the gap. He also unpacks the financialization of compute and why some believe it could become one of the largest derivatives markets in the world.Leo Fan is the Founder of Cysic, a full-stack compute network turning GPU
Johann Kerbrat: Inside Robinhood's Crypto Strategy (Full Explanation)
Johann Kerbrat breaks down Robinhood Chain's explosive first three weeks and explains the strategy behind bringing tokenized equities, DeFi, and stablecoin yield onchain. He also unpacks the Base vs. Robinhood Chain rivalry and Robinhood's broader vision to become a true financial super app.Johann Kerbrat is the General Manager of Crypto at Robinhood, leading the launch of Robinhood Chain
WisdomTree Digital Assets BD: Tokenization Is The Biggest Shift In Finance Happening Today (Full Thesis)
Maredith Hannon breaks down why WisdomTree built its own end-to-end tokenization platform rather than relying on partners, and explains why she believes regulatory clarity from the GENIUS and CLARITY Acts will unleash a "tidal wave" of onchain asset growth. She also makes the case that privacy and identity are the next must-solve primitives for institutional adoption of tokenized assets.
Plume GC: CLARITY Act Deadline Is Fast Approaching (Full Update)
Salman Banaei breaks down the state of play in DC on the CLARITY Act, from the ethics fight holding up Democratic support to the DeFi and conflicts-of-interest provisions still being negotiated, and puts the odds of passage this cycle at 40-50%. He also explains why Title IV's bank provisions and the bill's token fundraising framework could be some of the biggest unlocks in digital assets
Andre Cronje: The Biggest DeFi Boom Is Yet To Come (Entire Thesis)
Andre Cronje breaks down why he believes decentralization is dead as a design goal, and unpacks how Flying Tulip is rebuilding DeFi composability. He also explains the security-versus-UX tradeoffs behind circuit breakers, upgradable contracts, and Flying Tulip USD's delta-neutral staking design.Andre Cronje is the Founder of Flying Tulip and a veteran DeFi builder known for creating Yearn Fina
Alex Shevchenko: NEAR & ZEC Are Set To Explode (Huge Catalysts Coming)
Alex Shevchenko breaks down Confidential Intents, NEAR's new privacy layer that brings bank-level confidentiality to every DeFi primitive, and explains why a dollar that becomes payroll onchain tends to stay onchain. He also unpacks NEAR's "practical privacy" design and how it differs from Zcash and Tornado Cash. He also shares his personal bull case for Zcash and NEAR's own
Hyperdash Co-founder: Hyperliquid Bull Thesis for 2026 (Updated View)
Hanson Birringer breaks down why Hyperliquid is the purest way to express the bull case on perps, tokenization, and stablecoins all at once, and unpacks the mechanics behind the Grayscale ETF and Hyper Holdings' push to bring institutional capital onchain. He also explains why Hyperliquid's revenue could grow exponentially as HIP-3 markets and USDC0 stablecoin flows scale.Hanson Birringer
Joseph Chalom: Ethereum Is Going On Offense (Full Thesis)
Joseph Chalom makes the case that Ethereum has the license to win and is finally going on offense to prove it, backed by ETH Labs, Ethereum Institutional, and dominant market share across stablecoins, tokenization, and DeFi. He argues ETH is the trust commodity behind trillions in future onchain asset flows, and that the risk-reward for holding it has never been better.Joseph Chalom is the CEO of
Coinbase Head Of AI: Agentic Finance Is The Biggest Opportunity In Fintech (Full Explanation)
Lincoln Murr breaks down why Coinbase is building toward a post-AGI economy where autonomous agents hold their own financial accounts and transact using digital assets rails. He also unpacks the geopolitics of AI regulation, from potential government stakes in frontier labs to the rise of cheaper Chinese models challenging U.S. dominance.Lincoln Murr is the Head of AI Product at Coinbase, leading
Curve Founder: The Next Massive Expansion Is Coming (New Thesis)
Michael Egorov breaks down why FX markets are slowly but inevitably moving onchain, driven by real demand from crypto-native fintechs rather than a big institutional push. He also explains how Curve is evolving its concentrated liquidity design to support currency pairs beyond stablecoin-to-stablecoin swaps, and why dollars that enter the chain tend to stay there.Michael Egorov is the Founder and
Chronicle CEO: RWAs Will Lead The Next Bull Market (Biggest Wave Ever)
Niklas Kunkel breaks down the strange divergence between record institutional bullishness on digital assets and the apathy in digital asset-native circles. He also details Chronicle's path to becoming the leading oracle, the mechanics of an upcoming token, and why the next phase of tokenization is just beginning.Niklas Kunkel is the Founder and CEO of Chronicle Labs, the oracle infrastructure
Gracy Chen: Tokenized Equity Is The Next Biggest Trend In Digital Assets (What's Next)
Gracy Chen breaks down how Bitget evolved into a universal platform offering tokenized stocks, ETFs, bonds, forex, and pre-IPO positions, shares the 10% vision she pitched to BlackRock CEO Rob Goldstein, and explains why stablecoin issuers and Solana's RWA positioning are the biggest winners of the tokenization wave. One of the most globally-minded CEO perspectives we've had on the show.Gr
AntSeed Founder: The AI Inference Boom That Is Set To Explode (Here's Why)
Amos joins us to break down why inference is the new oil and companies will hedge inference costs the same way airlines hedge jet fuel, why AntSeed is open router without open router in the middle, and why all network revenue goes to buy and burn with no company capturing value. 14 years in crypto. This is what he's building next.Amos Meiri is Co-Founder of AntSeed, an open-source P2P marketpl
Vladimir Novakovski: The Rise of Perps In Mainstream Finance (Robinhood Partnership Explained)
Yesterday Robinhood hosted their “The World is Flat” event where they announced the Robinhood chain mainnet & deepened relationship with Lighter, amidst many other digital asset focused initiatives. Lighter was named the official perps partner of Robinhood and will be directly integrated within the Robinhood wallet.Vladimir Novakovski is CEO and Co-Founder of Lighter, a decentralized perpetual
VirtualBacon: The Next Bull Market Is Here (Full Thesis)
VirtualBacon Dennis Liu breaks down why Bitcoin at 58K is deep value territory, why the four year cycle has repeated exactly as expected and isn't going anywhere, and why HYPE and Lighter are the cleanest expressions of the tokenization trade while ETH wins the underlying technology stack. Plus his hot take on MicroStrategy's real liquidation level and why the $1.25B Bitcoin sale is barely
MoneyGram CEO: Tokenization & Stablecoins Are Set To Explode (Why We're Betting Big On It)
MoneyGram CEO Anthony Soohoo breaks down why launching MGUSD was a vertical integration play straight out of Apple's microprocessor playbook, why MoneyGram's 500,000 physical locations are an unbeatable moat in a stablecoin world, and why their new Kraken partnership lets anyone cash out crypto at a MoneyGram or Walmart location worldwide.Anthony Soohoo is Chairman and CEO of MoneyGram, a
Portal VC Founder: How To Invest In A Post-AI World (Huge Changes)
Evan Fisher breaks down why blockchain is more analogous to legal technology than financial technology, why AI-proof moats in crypto are network effects, liquidity, and trust rather than code, and why momentum investors who mistake good metrics for durable value will be this cycle's biggest losers.Evan Fisher is Founder of Portal Ventures, a pre-seed blockchain investment firm managing $120M a
Fomo Co-Founder: The FOMO Bull Thesis For Trading Crypto (Be Early)
Se Yong Park breaks down why FOMO is building the trading app for the rest of us... any chain, any asset, never miss out again, why AI will commoditize content but can never commoditize money and risk, making social the most defensible moat in on-chain finance, and why FOMO raised $75M from Benchmark, Robinhood, and Coinbase without touching a single venture dollar before closing the round.Se Yong
WalletConnect CEO: The WalletConnect Bull Thesis (Billions In Volume)
Jess Houlgrave breaks down why 2026 is the year of non-USD stablecoins with USDC losing Mica compliance, 30 European banks now issuing a euro stablecoin, and HKD, JPY, SEK and CHF versions all coming to market. She covers WalletConnect's $6B per week in stablecoin volume, why broad asset support is the key to reducing merchant and much more.Jess Houlgrave is CEO of WalletConnect, the leading f
Trace CEO: We Built A $10B Volume Stablecoin Company (How We Did It)
Bernardo Brites breaks down why the Brazilian real is uniquely positioned for a stablecoin, why being pro-banking rather than anti-banking is the only path to the next hundreds of millions of stablecoin users, and how Trace processed $10B of payment volume on just $4M in seed capital before closing a $32M Series A.Bernardo Brites is Co-Founder of Trace Finance, a cross-border payments and stableco
Hester Peirce: The Positive Future of Digital Asset Regulation (Huge Catalysts Coming)
SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce breaks down the state of digital asset regulation in the USA. She joins us to talk through the Rule 611 trade-through proposal that's been 20 years in the making, why the innovation exemption is deliberately narrow, her views on synthetic tokenized securities, and why self-custody and financial privacy are non-negotiable principles she wants embedded into every r
Sam Boboev: The AI x Fintech Bull Case (My Full Thesis)
Sam Boboev breaks down why stablecoins are the native currency of AI agents, why Mastercard's $1.8B blockchain acquisition and Visa's OpenAI partnership signal the payment giants have accepted their stablecoin future, and why the real killer use case for stablecoins isn't consumer payments.Sam Boboev is Founder of Fintech Wrap Up, a media and analytics platform covering AI, stablecoins
Alex Cutler: The Aerodrome Bull Thesis for 2026 (Expansion Plans)
Alexander Cutler breaks down the state of investing in tokens, why Aerodrome is already the number one onchain exchange for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and FX volume, why 100% value redistribution is the only sustainable moat in onchain finance just like Hyperliquid proved in derivatives, and why predictive allocation is an entirely new primitive that lets capital allocators bet on where liquidity needs to
Inside NEAR: 10+ Years Building Toward the Agent Economy with Illia Polosukhin
From pioneering the Transformer architecture now used in every AI stack to building the rails for the agent economy, NEAR Co-Founder Illia Polosukhin connects the full arc in this inaugural episode of “Inside NEAR,” a new quarterly series on The Rollup. Illia breaks down NEAR’s early architectural bets that are now paying off, why privacy had to be a base-layer choice, and how it all culminates in
Vladimir Novakovski: Lighter Bull Thesis For 2026 (What’s Changed)
Vladimir Novakovski sits down with Andy & Robbie to break down the Lighter bull thesis from The Tokenization Tower in NYC. We discuss Lighter's escape hatch design that lets every participant exit through Ethereum even if the protocol fails, why the RFQ model is the key to bootstrapping liquidity for pre-IPO and RWA perps, and why getting Citadel and US institutional capital on chain is th
David Schamis: HYPE Is The Best Asset In The World (Bull Thesis)
David Schamis breaks down why PERE now holds over 10% of HYPE's circulating supply, why the Coinbase and Circle deal added $200M in annual buybacks that the market didn't price in for a full day, and why Hyperliquid's price discovery on Cerebus and SpaceX may make investment bankers irrelevant to the IPO process. David Schamis is CEO of Hyperliquid Strategies, a publicly traded company
Jake Brukhman: Why Decentralized AI Is Set To Explode (What's Changed)
Jake Brukman breaks down why a swarm of decentralized agents beat Google's quantum circuit research in a week, why decentralized training on consumer hardware is now provably cheaper than data centers, and why winning just 10% of AI training automatically locks in revenue from a $1 trillion inference market. He published this thesis in September 2022, before ChatGPT existed.Jake Brukman is Fou
Frax Founder: The Future Of Stablecoins & Onchain Businesses (Why Now)
Sam Kazemian breaks down why the Genius Act's 120-day default acceptance is the most bullish structural change for compliant stablecoins, why you can't vibe code liquidity or DeFi integrations regardless of AI, and why the stablecoin supply step function could arrive in 6 to 8 months.Sam Kazemian is Founder of Frax Finance, the protocol behind FRAX USD, a Genius-compliant decentralized sta
DeFi Dad: The Ethereum Bull Thesis In 2026 (What's New)
DeFi Dad breaks down why lighter's ETH escape hatch makes it the most underrated security feature versus HyperLiquid, why RWA tokenization will eventually eclipse all native crypto tokens by market cap, and why ETH staking yield is effectively the native T-bills rate of the entire DeFi economy. The most convicted ETH bull case you'll hear right now.DeFi Dad is one of the most prominent lon
Haseeb Qureshi: The Meteoric Rise of Perps (And The Next Massive Move)
Dragonfly's Haseeb Qureshi breaks down why Bitcoin is not an honest macro asset, why domestic perps will disappoint compared to offshore, and why BNB has been outearning Hyperliquid for years yet nobody wants to talk about it. The most contrarian read on digital assets you'll hear this week.Haseeb Qureshi is Managing Partner at Dragonfly, a leading digital assets venture capital firm.The R
Mert Mumtaz & Illia Polosukhin: What Happened to Zcash (Full Explanation)
Illia and Mert break down why the Zcash situation is a known ZK circuit trade-off and not the infinite mint catastrophe the market priced in, why Project Tachyon's formal verification is the most bullish upgrade in Zcash history, and why NEAR Intents generated $150K in a single volatile day, buying back NEAR while everyone else was selling.Illia Polosukhin is Co-Founder of NEAR Protocol, and M
SVRN CEO: NEAR is Hitting On Revenue, Privacy, And AI At Once
Sal Ternullo joins this episode of AI Supercycle and breaks down why NEAR is a very unique asset in digital assets right now, how intents are building toward a real-economy TAM that dwarfs crypto-to-crypto swaps, and why the path to NEAR going deflationary is closer than the market thinks. The institutional inbound is at record levels, and the market is finally catching up, or so he says.Sal Ternu
Why PURR The Most Asymmetric Bet In The World (Entire Thesis) - Capital Flows & Jaymes Rosenthal
Capital Flows and Jaymes Rosenthal join The Rollup to discuss how the PUR gamma squeeze is already happening.Capital Flows and Jaymes Rosenthal are macro traders and HyperLiquid analysts.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Disclosures01:04 Capital Flows Macro Background04:37 Jaymes Poker To T
Joseph Chalom: The Ethereum Bull Thesis in 2026 (Why Now)
Joseph Chalom explains why ETH is not dead.Joseph Chalom is CEO of SharpLink, the second largest corporate ETH holder.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 ETH Is Not Dead01:16 Second Largest ETH Holder02:33 Ethereum Wins The Scoreboard04:20 Step Function Moment Coming04:45 The Jeff Bezos Analogy06:42 EF
Why Institutions Are Buying HYPE (And What Comes Next) - Bitwise Head of Research
Ryan Rasmussen joins us to explain how HYPE is the most obvious buy.Ryan Rasmussen is Head of Research at Bitwise, a digital assets manager.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Largest HYPE ETF Launched01:14 Why Only Two Issuers02:37 200 Eyes On Crypto03:52 Dollar In Dollar Out04:38 In-House Staking Adv
Stephen Sikes on Why Public's Agentic Brokerage Changes Everything
Stephen Sikes joins us on this episode of AI Supercyle and explains how the agentic brokerage is live.Stephen Sikes is COO at Public, an investing platform for serious investors.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Background01:18 Platform For Serious Investors02:26 Alpha AI Research Assistant
Alex Fine on Why Fintechs Going Onchain Is The Biggest Opportunity Right Now
Alex Fine joins this episode of Stabled Up and explains how fintechs are going on chain.Alex Fine is Founder of Fun, the highest-converting on-chain payments platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Recent Raise00:38 Fintechs Going On Chain01:27 Fun: Highest Converting On-Ramp03:55 Three
Arthur Hayes & Illia Polosukhin: Privacy Is The Last 1000x (NEAR & ZEC)
Arthur and Illia join The Rollup to cover how privacy is massively mispriced.Arthur Hayes is the Maelstrom CIO; Illia Polosukhin is the co-founder of NEAR Protocol.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:51 Arthur's Macro Thesis01:32 AI Is National Defense04:10 Full Port NEAR Zcash Hype05:23 L1 Consolidat
How N3xt Can Pay Back Every Customer Unlike JPMorgan
Scott Shay joins this episode of Stabled Up to tell us how Stablecoins are just receipts and more.Scott Shay is Founder of N3xt, a full reserve digital bank.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:39 Four Banks Founded01:09 First Native Digital Bank02:54 Stablecoin Is A Receipt03:45 Stapling Paper To Cardboar
Is Bitcoin The Best Hedge For What's Coming? | Evan Szu
Evan Szu joins us on The Rollup to explains how a recession is coming before inflation.Evan Szu is CEO of Gamma Prime, a curated alternative investment platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Timestamps00:00 Intro And Evan's Background00:33 Thirty Years In Commodities01:06 Why Gamma Prime Was Built01:52 Client Spectrum Explained03:09 Exotic Alts Film Fi
Austin Barack: My AI Bull Thesis (...And What I'm Holding)
Austin Barack joins us for this episode of AI Supercycle to cover how exactly the AI privacy stack is undervalued.Austin Barack is Founder of Relayer Capital, an AI-focused digital assets fund.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Venice Grass NEAR AI Thesis Intro01:30 Venice Privacy Overview02:03 AI Use
Why Banks Are About To Make More Money From Stablecoins with Simon Taylor
Simon Taylor explains how Stablecoins are the WhatsApp for money.Simon Taylor is Founder of Fintech Brainfood, a leading digital finance newsletter.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Intro And Simon's Background01:08 Ten Years In Banking01:37 Head Of Crypto At Barclays 201503:10 Western Union Stab
Variational Founder: $50M Series A, RWA Perps, And TradFi Onchain (Why Now)
Lucas Schuermann joins The Rollup to cover how Variational raised $50M to build the on-chain brokerage.Lucas Schuermann is Founder and CEO of Variational, a zero-fee on-chain brokerage.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 $50M Raised00:54 Ten Years In Quant And HFT01:29 Q Capital Dorm Room Story01:46 Ge
How Avalanche Is Powering The $2B Tokenization Wave | Olivia Vande Woude
Olivia joins this episode of Stabled Up to cover how Tokenized finance will be invisible.Olivia Vande Woude leads tokenization business development at Ava Labs, builders of Avalanche.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge.Timestamps00:00 Embedded Finance Defined01:44 Tokenized Assets In Finance Stack03:25 1500 Fintechs In LatAm And APAC04:23 Ava Labs Trusted Advisor
Why Your AI Prompts Are More Personal Than Your Diary | BasedAI CEO
Teana Baker-Taylor joins this Episode of AI Supercycle to cover how your AI prompts are your diary and much more.Teana Baker-Taylor is CEO of BasedAI, a private decentralized AI inference platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Timestamps00:00 Intro01:13 Why Venice Was Founded02:07 2Mil Users Milestone03:04 Crypto And AI Converge04:43 Based AI Origin Story0
Kraken CEO: How I Built a $20B Company
Arjun Sethi joins The Rollup and explains how Kraken is much more than an exchange.Arjun Sethi is Co-CEO of Kraken, a leading global digital assets exchange.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Franklin Templeton Deal01:15 Choke Point Era Survival02:23 Global Adoption Not US Lens05:01 Kraken's Mt. G
Is Agent Finance The Next Trillion-Dollar Wave? | Sam Green
Sam Green joins this episode of AI Supercycle to cover how AI agents are running DeFi.Sam Green is CEO of Cambrian Network, an AI financial intelligence platform.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Timestamps00:00 Agent Finance Landscape01:19 Q1 Agent Fi Report02:17 Yield Agents Explained03:04 Bots Vs AI Agents05:15 Trading And Prediction Agents07:11 Bots Become
Bhaji Illuminati on How Centrifuge Became Coinbase's Tokenization Partner
Bhaji Illuminati joins us for this episode of Stabled Up to cover how Coinbase just picked Centrifuge.Bhaji Illuminati is CEO of Centrifuge, a leading on-chain infrastructure platform for real world asset tokenization.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps00:00 Coinbase Picks Centrifuge02:33 Tokenized Treasury
Is the Next Bitcoin Rally Being Funded by the AI Trade? | Michael Van Poppe
Michaël van de Poppe joins The Rollup to cover how AI IPOs are about to mint billions and how smart money is rotating into digital assets next. Michaël van de Poppe runs a multi-strategy hybrid digital assets fund based in the Netherlands.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:40 The Fund Explain
The $2.2B Bet on Digital Assets' Institutional Future with Guy Wuollet
Guy Wuollet joins The Rollup to cover how a16z just raised $2.2B for Crypto Fund V, and why the best is yet to come.Guy Wuollet is a General Partner at a16z Crypto, a venture capital fund that has been investing in crypto and web3 startups since 2013.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro & Fun
Is Robinhood About to Become the World's Financial Super App? with Johann Kerbart
Johann Kerbart joins The Rollup in Miami for Tokenized Summit to cover how Robinhood hit $1B in crypto revenue, and tokenization, perps, plus more. Johann Kerbart is SVP & GM of Crypto at Robinhood.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:04 Robinhood Since 201801:06 Prediction Markets 320%02:3
Shashank Yadav on Why AI Agents Will Replace Hedge Funds
Shashank Yadav joins this episode of AI Supercycle to discuss how AI trading agents are coming for hedge funds, how Fraction AI is building that infrastructure, and more. Shashank Yadav is Co-Founder of Fraction AI, ex-Goldman Sachs AI researcher.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:25 Shashank's Background01:32 Goldman Sachs AI Role03
How Visa Is Dominating The Digital Asset Card Market | Joshua Moss
Joshua Moss joins this episode of Stabled Up to cover how Visa is running a multi-billion dollar stablecoin settlement business, and the $6T B2B opportunity that is just opening up.Joshua leads stablecoin product strategy and go-to-market at Visa.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:38 Joshua&#
Adrian Fritz: Trillions Are Coming — Here's Where They Land
Adrian W. J. Fritz says the next one will be led by tokens that look like businesses. He joins The Rollup to break down ETF flows, the AI trade, and what institutions actually want from digital assets.Adrian W. J. Fritz is the Chief Investment Officer at 21Shares, one of the world's largest digital asset ETP issuers with nearly eight years of experience navigating bull and bear markets across
Cathie Wood: The Next Bull Market Is Here (…What It Will Look Like)
Cathie Wood joins The Rollup to break down her innovation platforms thesis, the story behind her firm, ARK Invest and its foray into digital assets. She also unpacks her belief in the tokenization thesis, what 'good deflation' is, her "Big Four" crypto assets. We ask her about the 4-year cycle and where the macro liquidity landscape is currently at, and finally and agentic AI is
Alfonso Gómez-Jordana on Why Every AI Agent Will Need a Wallet
Alfonso Gómez-Jordana joins AI Supercycle to break down scope cards, verifiable intents, and why Mastercard and Amex are now partnering with crypto-native infrastructure to power agent payments.Alfonso Gómez-Jordana is the founder of Crossmint, a programmatic finance infrastructure company building stablecoin enablement and AI agent payment solutions for developers, fintechs, and major card networ
Mike Dudas: The State of Digital Asset Investing in 2026 (What’s Changed)
Mike Dudas joins us in the Tokenization Tower to unpack the state of crypto VC, where flows are going, the stablecoin war, why pumpfun and Hyperliquid are misunderstood, how to think about Circle vs. Tether, OpenAI & Anthropic IPOs, and why now is a great time to invest in digital assets.Mike Dudas is the co-founder and General Partner of 6th Man Ventures, one of the most active early-stage di
Sky Co-founder: The Next Era of Onchain Finance Is Coming
For this weeks Stabled Up episode, Sky co-founder Rune Christensen breaks down recent DeFi exploits, Sky's risk model, the future of yieldcoins, onchain lending, and why the next era of DeFi scale will be centered around risk management.Rune Christensen is the co-founder of Sky, formerly MakerDAO, the issuer of USDS.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live f
Rob Hadick: Where Does DeFi Go From Here? (…And Why)
Rob Hadick joins us in the Tokenization Tower to cover the $292M exploit this weekend unpacking how it happened, what this means for the future of low-risk DeFi, why DeFi founders are still treating finance like software, and his views on investing and predicting what comes next for onchain finance.Rob Hadick is General Partner at Dragonfly, a leading digital asset venture fund. The Rollup is wher
Shuyao Kong on Why MegaETH Is the Only Option for Onchain Finance
Shuyao joins The Rollup to break down the KPI token model, novel asset strategy, and why MegaETH is building a fashion brand, not a blockchain.Shuyao Kong is the co-founder of MegaETH, the highest throughput Ethereum Layer 2 focused on real-time blockchain performance and consumer-grade user experiences.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial
Charles Hoskinson: I Solved Privacy (How I Did It…)
Charles Hoskinson joins The Rollup to cover the Midnight launch, privacy onchain, ZEC & NEAR, how 34% of Bitcoin supply is vulnerable to quantum attack right now, how BIP 361 may be the only way to stop it, and much more.Charles Hoskinson is the founder of Midnight and co-founder of Cardano, with 15+ years in digital assets.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge
How Digital Assets Incentives Are Solving the Robotics Data Problem
Jansen Teng thinks crypto is the missing piece to scale robots globally.Jansen Teng is founder of Virtuals Protocol, the leading agentic commerce platform with $500M in agent-to-agent transactions and counting.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:47 Virtuals Protocol Recap03:53 The Westworld En
Why Saylor Is Wrong About the Quantum Threat | Alex Pruden
Alex Pruden joins The Rollup to break down the quantum threat to every major blockchain, why Saylor's "just hard fork it" answer is not enough, and why Ethereum may actually be better positioned than BitcoinAlex Pruden is the CEO and co-founder of Project Eleven, the leading company building post-quantum cryptography solutions for digital asset networks.The Rollup is where the leader
Vladimir Novakovski on Why Lighter Is Built for the Future of Finance
Vlad Novakovski joins The Rollup to break down the Lighter EVM launch, the valuation disconnect vs. HyperLiquid, and why the future of finance runs on DeFi rails.Vladimir Novakovski is the co-founder of Lighter, a ZK-powered on-chain exchange built on Ethereum for trading perps, spot, and tokenized assets with zero fees for retail users.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance
Max Gokhman on Why the 60/40 Portfolio Is Dead
Franklin Templeton's Deputy CIO Max Gokhman breaks down why 60/40 is dead, how $1.7T heads onchain, and why TradFi and DeFi are merging into one market.Max Gokhman is Deputy CIO at Franklin Templeton Investment Solutions, managing $1.7T across equities, fixed income, and digital assets.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of th
Brian Wong: I Solved the AI Investment Playbook
Brian Wong joins this episode of AI Supercycles to break down his barbell investment strategy for the AI boom, why the real AI x digital assets trade is in stablecoin app layer companies, and much more.Brian Wong is a serial entrepreneur and co-founder of Ascii Ventures, a fund focused on behind-the-scenes infrastructure and boring tech that powers daily life. The Rollup is where the leaders of di
Logan Jastremski: Will Hyperliquid Flip Solana?
Logan Jastremski joins The Rollup to break down why blockchains are really just global exchanges, why localized ingestion beats co-location as a trading model, and more.Logan Jastremski is the co-founder of Frictionless Capital, a venture fund focused on high throughput blockchains and trading infrastructure.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the fina
The Past, Present, And Massive Future of Stablecoins (...Trillions Coming) - Stably CEO
Kory Hoang joins this episode of Stabled Up to break down his full stablecoin taxonomy, Polymarket's new stablecoin, how stablecoins have evolved into multiple secotrs, why 'payments money' and 'savings money' can never be the same asset, how he thinks about Ethena's new backing strategy, and more.Kory Hoang is the CEO and co-founder of Stably, one of the earliest stablecoi
Aerodrome Co-Founder: 90% of Top 100 Tokens Are Uninvestable (Here's Why)
Alex Cutler joins The Rollup live from Digital Asset Summit to break down why DEXs are producing more fees than the chains they run on but worth a fraction of their market cap, and more.Alex Cutler is the co-founder of Aerodrome, the largest DEX on Base and one of the fastest-growing liquidity protocols in DeFi.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:21 Top 100 Token Reshuffle03:15 Institutions & DeFi Builde
James Seyffart on Why 150 Digital Asset ETFs Are Coming
James Seyffart joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day to break down why 150 crypto ETF filings are in the pipeline, what Blackrock tokenizing every ETF actually means, and more.James Seyffart is a senior ETF research analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence and one of the most followed voices on digital asset ETFs.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financia
Is Privacy the Last Unsolved Problem in Digital Assets? | Rand Hindi
Randi Hindi joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day in Cannes to make the case for Fully Homomorphic Encryption over ZK and TEEs, why permissioned blockchains will lose to public chain, and more.Rand Hindi is the CEO and co-founder of Zama, the leading builder of Fully Homomorphic Encryption infrastructure for public blockchains. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge.
How Institutions Are Being Forced to Tokenize with Theo Golden
Theo Golden, Tokenization Lead at Baillie Gifford, joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day to break down why direct tokenization beats the wrapped model for institutions, how 19 financial intermediaries are collapsing to three, and more.Theo Golden is the Tokenization Lead and bond portfolio manager at Baillie Gifford, one of the UK's largest active asset managers with $300 billion AUM. The Rollup
Stani Kulechov on Why Aave V4 Is The Most Resilient DeFi In The World
Stani Kulechov joins The Rollup live from DeFi Day to reflect on the V4 announcement & break down the hub-and-spoke architecture, how Aave is positioning for RWAs and tokenized equities, the Whop integration bringing 21 million fintech users into DeFi, his vision for abundance, and more.Stani Kulechov is the founder of Aave, one of the largest and most resilient DeFi lending protocols in the w
Hyperliquid Strategies CEO: Hyperliquid Is Extremely Undervalued (...And What Comes Next)
David Schamis, CEO of Hyperliquid Strategies, joins us in the Tokenization Tower in NYC to break down how they raised $888M, why most other DATs are in trouble, his Hyperliquid bull & bear case, why HIP-3 changed everything, and updates from his company.David Sheamus is the CEO of Hyperliquid Strategies, the largest DAT for Hyperliquid. He is also co-founder and CIO of Atlas Merchant Capital,
Jeff Park on Why the 60/40 Portfolio Is Already Over
Jeff Park, CIO of ProCap Financial, joins The Rollup live from DAS New York to break down his Radical Portfolio Theory, why US Treasuries should be called the "risk full rate," the truth about private credit, and why STRK is more interesting than most people think.Jeff Park is the CIO of ProCap Financial and the creator of Radical Portfolio Theory, a framework for next-generation portfol
Is the Stablecoin Yield Ban Good? with Frax founder Sam Kazemian
Frax founder Sam Kazemian joins Stabled Up to break down why the Clarity Act's yield restrictions actually benefit DeFi-native stablecoins, how Frax and Tether come out on top, and much more.Sam Kazemian is the founder of Frax Finance, the creator of the world's first fractional-algorithmic stablecoin and the Genius-compatible frxUSD. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and f
The Biggest Digital Assets Opportunity Nobody Is Talking About
Santiago Santos, founder of Inversion, joins The Rollup live from DC Blockchain Summit to break down why most tokens aren't investable, the Hyper Liquid commodities thesis, and more.Santiago Santos is a prolific angel investor and founder of Inversion. He was also an early backer of Polymarket.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders
How the Oil Shock Is Flipping the Macro Playbook | Felix Jauvin
Felix Jauvin, Head of Content at Blockworks and macro trader, joins The Rollup live from the conference floor to break down why he's bullish on the dollar, bearish on gold, and more.Felix Jauvin is the Head of Content at Blockworks and host of Forward Guidance. Felix covers everything from Fed policy and FX to commodities and crypto market structure.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital a
Is TAO the Best AI Trade in the World Right Now? | Rob Greer
Rob Greer, Partner at Stillcore Capital, joins AI Supercycle to make the bull case for TAO, break down the best subnets to watch, and moreRob Greer is a Partner at Stillcore Capital, one of the only funds in the world exclusively focused on decentralized AI with a primary focus on the BitTensor ecosystem. Stillcore's GP roster includes Rob, Mark, and All In podcast member Jason Calacanis.The R
How Sui Plans to Beat Hyperliquid with Evan Cheng
Evan Cheng, CEO and Co-Founder of Sui, joins The Rollup to discuss tokenization, AI agent infrastructure, Sui's business model evolution, and more.Evan Cheng is the CEO and Co-Founder of Mysten Labs, the team behind Sui, one of the fastest-growing Layer 1 blockchains.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Timestamps:
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