
Speaking of Jung: Interviews with Jungian Analysts
A unique podcast exploring the life and work of C.G. Jung through in-depth discussions with certified Jungian Analysts. Created and hosted by Laura London in Chicago.
Episodes
Episode 160: Nietzsche's Zarathustra
Professor Paul Bishop, Ph.D., returned to discuss Volume 3 in his series Jung and the Epic of Transformation – Nietzsche’s “Thus Spoke Zarathustra” and the Challenge of Transformation, released on June 5th by Chiron Publications.
Episode 159: Deeper Explorations
Jungian psychoanalyst Murray Stein, Ph.D., joined us from Zürich, Switzerland to discuss his new book, Jung's Map of the Soul: Deeper Explorations, and the return of BTS!
Episode 158: Morgan Stebbins
Jungian psychoanalyst Morgan Stebbins, D.Min., joined us from New York to discuss his new book, A Jungian Approach to Transforming Compulsion: A Clinical and Symbolic Guide to OCD, published by Routledge on Apr. 1, 2026.
Episode 157: Love and Narcissism
Jungian psychoanalyst and clinical psychologist Susan E. Schwartz, Ph.D. returned to us from Phoenix, Arizona, to discuss her latest book, An Analytical Exploration of Love and Narcissism: The Tragedy of Isolation and Intimacy, published by Routledge in 2025.
Episode 156: Gita Dorothy Morena
Jungian psychoanalyst and great-granddaughter of L. Frank Baum, author of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, joined us from Los Angeles to discuss her book, The Wisdom of Oz: Reflections of a Jungian Sandplay Therapist, and her part in the new documentary film, 'It's Dorothy!'
Episode 155: Angeliki Yiassemides
Jungian psychoanalyst and developmental psychologist Angeliki Yiassemides, Ph.D. joins us from Nicosia, Cyprus to discuss her decades-long research on the psychology of time, C.G. Jung, and his concept of synchronicity. She is the author of Time and Timelessness: Temporality in the Theory of Carl Jung, and the editor of Time and the Psyche: Jungian Perspectives.
Episode 154: Enrique Martínez Celaya + James Hollis
Artist and former scientist Enrique Martínez Celaya and Jungian psychoanalyst James Hollis join me to discuss their new book, Tending the Fire: Creativity, Purpose, and the Unfolding Self, published by Chiron Publications on Feb. 1, 2026.
Episode 153: The Psychedelic Jungian
Zürich-trained Jungian psychoanalyst Fiann Paul returns to Speaking of Jung to discuss the founding of the International Jungian Psychedelic Association. We explore the relationship between depth psychology and psychedelic experiences, as well as the challenges and opportunities emerging in the rapidly developing field of psychedelic-assisted therapies.
Episode 152: Goethe's Faust
Professor Paul Bishop, Ph.D. returns to us from Glasgow, Scotland to discuss his new book, the second volume in the series 'Jung and the Epic of Transformation: Goethe's Faust as a Text of Transformation, released in October by Chiron Publications.
Episode 151: Jung and Alchemy
Jungian psychoanalyst Murray Stein, Ph.D. returns to us from Zürich, Switzerland to discuss his latest book, Jung and Alchemy: A Path to Individuation. And later, I'm joined by Jungian psychoanalyst Steven Herrmann, Ph.D. to discuss his new book, Murray Stein: Individuation, Transformation, and the Ways to the Self in Jungian Psychology.
Episode 150: Eva Wertenschlag-Birkhäuser
Jungian analyst Eva Wertenschlag-Birkhäuser joined us from Berne, Switzerland, to discuss the work of her late parents, artist and analysand Peter Birkhäuser and Jungian analyst Sibylle Birkhäuser-Oeri.
Episode 149: Christophe Le Mouël
Theoretical physicist and mathematician Christophe Le Mouël, Ph.D. joined us from Los Angeles to discuss the new book he co-edited with Swiss psychotherapist Robin Mindell, Conversations with Marie-Louise von Franz on Synchronicity and Numbers: Insights and Amplifications, scheduled to be published later this month by Inner City Books.
Episode 148: Kathrin Schaeppi
Jungian psychoanalyst Kathrin Schaeppi joins us from Basel, Switzerland to discuss her new book, C.G. Jung—The Basel Years: A Walking Guide.
Episode 147: Paul Brutsche
Jungian psychoanalyst Paul Brutsche, Ph.D. joins us from Zürich, Switzerland to discuss playing the role of C.G. Jung in numerous stage productions including The Red Book, The Analyst and the Rabbi, and Eranos: A Play.
Episode 146: Recollections
Jungian psychoanalyst Nancy Swift Furlotti, Ph.D. on her work on the Maya, the lecture she delivered at the Eranos Conference, publishing Erich Neumann's body of work, and an in-depth look at the use of psychedelics.
Episode 145: Fiann Paul
Jungian psychoanalyst Fiann Paul was trained as an architect, has lived on five continents, and is the only person to have rowed every ocean, breaking more records than any other explorer in the world. Along with a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich, he holds over 40 Guinness Records.
Episode 144: Dariane Pictet
Jungian psychoanalyst Dariane Pictet joined us from Geneva, Switzerland to discuss her portrayal of Eranos founder Olga Fröbe-Kapteyn in 'Eranos: A Play,' written by Jungian psychoanalysts Murray Stein, Ph.D. and Henry Abramovitch, Ph.D.
Episode 143: Psychoanalysis and Men
Jungian analyst and former law professor Leslie Stein, J.D. (Ep. 113) returns to us from Sydney, Australia to discuss his latest novel, The Psychoanalysis of Dr. Seele, published in February by Arcade Publishing.
Episode 142: Stefano Carpani
Jungian psychoanalyst and sociologist Stefano Carpani, Ph.D. joins us from Berlin, Germany, to discuss his many books including The New Myth of Analysis for a Neo-Jungian Analytical Psychology, and his upcoming Jungianeum/Biennale "Democracy on the Couch: In Search of the Forgotten Self," May 24-25, 2025.
Episode 141: Flying Saucers
Professor Paul Bishop, Ph.D. returns to us from Scotland to discuss C.G. Jung's essay, Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies.
Episode 140: Soul-Making
Jungian psychoanalyst and author Christina Becker returns to us (after 10 years!) from Toronto, Canada to discuss her new book, a memoir, titled 'Soul-Making: A Journey of Resilience & Spiritual Rediscovery,' scheduled to be published in May by Friesen Press.
Episode 139: Confronting Death
Jungian psychoanalyst and filmmaker Luis Moris returned to us from Zürich, Switzerland to discuss his new book, Confronting Death, released in September by Chiron Publications.
Episode 138: James Hollis
Jungian psychoanalyst and author James Hollis, Ph.D. returns to us from Washington, D.C. to discuss his new book, Living with Borrowed Dust: Reflections on Life, Love, & Other Grievances, dropping March 4th from Sounds True.
Episode 137: Secrets
Jungian psychoanalyst and astrologer Sherene Vismaya returns to us from an undisclosed location in Sri Lanka to discuss her 21-day intensive, "Secrets" – a collaboration with Billy Corgan. Laura is participating in the process and shares her experience while on Day 8.
Episode 136: Girl Unfolding
Jungian psychoanalyst and clinical psychologist Susan E. Schwartz, Ph.D. returned to us from Paradise Valley, Arizona to discuss her latest book, A Jungian Exploration of the Puella Archetype: Girl Unfolding, published in December by Routledge.
Episode 135: Jung, Parzival and the Grail as Transformation
Prof. Paul Bishop, Ph.D. returns to us from the University of Glasgow to discuss the first volume in his new series, Jung and the Epic of Transformation: Wolfram von Eschenbach's "Parzival" and the Grail as Transformation, published in May by Chiron.
Episode 134: Brian Mayo
Jungian psychoanalyst Brian Mayo joins us from Toronto, Canada to discuss his new book on tattoos and the psyche, Skin Deep: Manifestations of the Unconscious in Everyday Life, published in December by Inner City Books.
Episode 133: C.G. Jung's Collected Works
We are joined by Jungian analyst Ann Yeoman, Ph.D. in Devon, England and Professor Kevin Lu, Ph.D. at the University of London to discuss their new book, 'C.G. Jung's Collected Works: The Basics,' scheduled to be published by Routledge on March 18th, 2024.
Episode 132: Robert Matthews
Zürich-trained Jungian analyst and theoretical physicist Dr. Robert Matthews joins us from Australia to discuss his book, The Paradoxical Meeting of Depth Psychology and Physics: Reflections on the Unification of Psyche and Matter, published by Routledge in 2022 as part of the Research in Analytical Psychology and Jungian Studies book series.
Episode 131: Paul Bishop
Oxford-trained scholar Professor Paul Bishop joins us from the University of Glasgow in Scotland to discuss Jung's connection to Goethe, Plato, and Nietzsche.
Episode 130: Joseph Cambray
Jungian analyst Dr. Joseph Cambray joins us via video from Carpinteria, California to discuss Synchronicity: Nature & Psyche in an Interconnected Universe
Episode 129: James Hollis
Jungian analyst James Hollis, Ph.D. returns to discuss his new book, A Life of Meaning: Relocating Your Center of Spiritual Gravity, published in July by Sounds True.
Episode 128: Linda Carter
Jungian analyst Linda Carter joins us from Carpinteria, California to discuss her essay, "The Combination Method: Use of Ketamine as an Adjunct to Analytic Treatment," which she will be presenting at next month's joint IAAP/Pacifica Graduate Institute Conference, Psychedelics and Individuation: Conversations with Jungian Analysts, and published in the accompanying book, Psychedelics and Individuat
Episode 127: Christian Roesler
Professor Roesler joins us from Freiburg, Germany to discuss his books, Research in Analytical Psychology: Empirical Research; C.G. Jung’s Archetype Concept: Theory, Research & Applications; and Deconstructing Archetype Theory: A Critical Analysis of Jungian Ideas; as well as his groundbreaking research report to the IAAP, “Development of a Reconceptualization of Archetype Theory.”
Episode 126: Henry Abramovitch
Jungian analyst and anthropologist Henry Abramovitch, Ph.D. returns to us from Jerusalem, Israel to discuss his books on Analytical Psychology, the plays he's written with Murray Stein, and his new thriller, Panic Attacks in Pistachio: A Psychological Detective Story
Episode 125: Imposter Syndrome
We welcome back Jungian analyst and clinical psychologist Susan E. Schwartz, Ph.D. in Paradise Valley, Arizona to discuss her forthcoming book, Imposter Syndrome & the 'As-If' Personality in Analytical Psychology: The Fragility of Self, scheduled to be released by Routledge on Sept. 26, 2023.
Episode 124: Martin Liebscher
Professor Martin Liebscher, Ph.D. joins us from University College London to discuss his work as an editor and translator for the Philemon Foundation, completing the works of C.G. Jung.
Episode 123: Robert Hinshaw
Jungian analyst and publisher Dr. Robert Hinshaw joins us from Einsiedeln, Switzerland to discuss the new book, Reflections on the Life & Dreams of C.G. Jung, released last month by his publishing house, Daimon Verlag.
Episode 122: Murray Stein at 80
Jungian analyst and author Dr. Murray Stein joins us on Jung's 148th birthday to discuss the Jung family home and museum, the festschrift for Dr. Stein's upcoming 80th birthday, the latest volume of his Collected Writings on the problem of evil, a new book on evil and the shadow, and the upcoming conference and book launch for Psychedelics and Individuation.
Episode 121: Polly Young-Eisendrath
Jungian analyst Polly Young-Eisendrath, Ph.D. joins us to celebrate her first book, Hags & Heroes: A Feminist Approach to Jungian Psychotherapy with Couples, just re-issued by Inner City Books.
Episode 120: The Cassandra Complex
Jungian analyst and filmmaker Laurie Layton Schapira joins us from Brooklyn, New York to discuss the re-issue of her book, The Cassandra Complex: Living with Disbelief – A Modern Perspective on Hysteria, now back in print from Inner City Books. We also discuss her films, The Prophecy of the Seeress and Women in China: Up Against the Wall.
Episode 119: The Call of Destiny
Inner City Books is back and they've just published their first title in five years. The Call of Destiny: An Introduction to Carl Jung's Major Works, written by Jungian analyst and frequent Speaking of Jung guest J. Gary Sparks, was released today, March 1st, 2023.
Episode 118: Bernice Hill
Jungian analyst and author Bernice H. Hill, Ph.D. joins us from Boulder, Colorado to discuss her books, Emergence of the Cosmic Psyche, Spiritual Perspectives on Death & Dying, and Cosmic Human Cosmic Intent.
Episode 117: Roderick Main
Jungian scholar and professor Roderick Main, Ph.D. joins us from the University of Essex to discuss his books, The Rupture of Time: Synchronicity and Jung’s Critique of Modern Western Culture; Revelations of Chance: Synchronicity as Spiritual Experience; and Breaking the Spell of Disenchantment: Mystery, Meaning, & Metaphysics in the Work of C.G. Jung.
Episode 116: Harald Atmanspacher
Physicist and honorary IAAP member Dr. Harald Atmanspacher is on the faculty of the ETH Zürich and the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich. We discuss his books, The Pauli-Jung Conjecture & Its Impact Today, and Dual-Aspect Monism & the Deep Structure of Meaning
Episode 115: Marianne Meister
Jungian analyst and astrologer Marianne Meister, Ph.D. joins us from the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich to discuss her book, The Key to the Self: Understanding Yourself through Depth Psychological Astrology
Episode 114: Aurora Consurgens
J. Gary Sparks is a Zürich-trained Jungian analyst who trained with Marie-Louise von Franz. He returns to us from Indianapolis to discuss Vol. 7 of von Franz's Collected Works – Aurora Consurgens: A Document Attributed to Thomas Aquinas on the Problem of Opposites in Alchemy – A Companion Work to C.G. Jung’s Mysterium Coniunctionis
Episode 113: Leslie Stein
Jungian analyst Leslie Stein joins us from Sydney, Australia to discuss his book, Working with Mystical Experiences in Psychoanalysis: Opening to the Numinous, and the newly released Eastern Practices & Individuation: Essays by Jungian Analysts.
Episode 112: Craig Stephenson
Craig Stephenson joins us from Lisbon, Portugal to discuss his work as both an academic scholar and a Jungian analyst, and his books, Ages of Anxiety, Anteros, Jung & Moreno, On Psychological & Visionary Art, Possession, and the forthcoming The Correspondence of Victoria Ocampo, Count Keyserling, & C.G. Jung
Episode 111: The Way of What is to Come
Jungian analyst and author of Jung's Map of the Soul Dr. Murray Stein returns to discuss The Real BTS Dinner Party, followed by a spirited discussion with Jungian analyst Dr. Melissa Werner and BTS ARMY Help Center counselor Tiffany Helton.
Episode 110: Shin-Ichiro Otsuka
Clinical psychologist and Jungian analyst candidate-in-training Shin-Ichiro Otsuka, Ph.D. joins us from Kobe, Japan to discuss his Japanese translation of the book, Map of the Soul: 7 – Persona, Shadow & Ego in the World of BTS by Jungian analyst Murray Stein, Ph.D. with psychiatrists Steven Buser, M.D. and Leonard Cruz, M.D.
Episode 109: John Beebe
Jungian analyst and psychiatrist John Beebe, M.D. joins us from San Francisco to discuss the new edition in the Philemon Series: Jung's Lectures Delivered at ETH Zurich, Volume 2: Consciousness and the Unconscious
Episode 108: Kiyomi Hirose
Jungian analyst and psychological astrologer Kiyomi Hirose joins us from Fukuyama, Japan to discuss her English translation of the book, The Code of Laozi: A Gate for the Great Tao – The Ultimate Principle of Sexuality Hidden in Laozi's Teaching
Episode 107: Royce Froehlich
Jungian analyst Royce Froehlich, Ph.D. joins us from New York City to discuss the paper he presented at the 2016 IAAP Congress in Kyoto, Japan: C.G. Jung, Disindividuation, Media: Effects of Communication Technology on the Human Psyche
Episode 106: Visions
Jungian analyst Frith Luton returns to the podcast from Melbourne, Australia to discuss the forthcoming volume of the Collected Works of Marie-Louise von Franz, Niklaus von Flüe & Saint Perpetua: A Psychological Interpretation of their Visions, scheduled to be released by Chiron Publications on Mar. 31, 2022.
Episode 105: Psychological Types
Jungian analyst Dr. Murray Stein returned to the podcast to discuss Jung's concept of psychological types, the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), personality, and BTS. This special video edition was livestreamed on Thursday, March 3rd at 9:00 am CT.
Episode 104: Déjà Vu
Jungian analyst Dr. Art Funkhouser returns to us from Bern, Switzerland to discuss the subject of his thesis dissertation at the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich: déjà vu and its related phenomena.
Episode 103: Art Funkhouser
Jungian analyst Art Funkhouser, Ph.D. joins us from Bern, Switzerland for the first in our two-part series of interviews. On this episode we discuss his lab course on Jungian dreamwork that he teaches at the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich. Topics include his background as a physicist, his work in holography, how he got to Zürich, his training analyst Marie-Louise von Franz, how Jungian analysts work w
Episode 102: Nancy Qualls-Corbett
Jungian analyst Dr. Nancy Qualls-Corbett joins us from Birmingham, Alabama to discuss her book, The Sacred Prostitute: Eternal Aspect of the Feminine, her research into Mary Magdalene, and Jung's concepts of the anima and animus
Episode 101: Thomas Fischer
Jung's great-grandson Dr. Thomas Fischer joins us from Vienna, Austria to discuss the Community of Heirs and the Foundation of the Works of C.G. Jung, their first publication, The Art of C.G. Jung, and the forthcoming Original Protocols for Memories, Dreams, Reflections.
Episode 100: James Hollis
Jungian analyst James Hollis, Ph.D. returns for our 100th episode to discuss his new book, The Broken Mirror: Refracted Visions of Ourselves, published on Jan. 1, 2022 by Chiron Publications.
Episode 99: Michael Escamilla
Jungian analyst, psychiatrist, and geneticist Dr. Michael Escamilla joins us from the University of Texas to discuss his book, 'Bleuler, Jung, & the Creation of the Schizophrenias,' his essay, 'Neuroscience & Jung,' and his genetics research
Episode 98: John & Nada O'Brien
Husband and wife Jungian analysts John & Nada O'Brien join us from Belgrade, Serbia to discuss their new book, Analytical Psychology of Football: Professional Jungian Football Coaching, published this year by Routledge.
Episode 97: Permission to Dance
Jungian analyst Melissa Werner, Ph.D. joins us live from Los Angeles the morning after the final BTS concert at SoFi Stadium to discuss her experience with host Laura London who attended the Saturday and Sunday night shows in LA
Episode 96: Marian Dunlea
Jungian analyst and somatics practitioner Marian Dunlea joins us from Galway, Ireland to discuss her award-winning book, BodyDreaming in the Treatment of Developmental Trauma: An Embodied Therapeutic Approach, published by Routledge in 2019.
Episode 95: The Best of James Hollis
Rev. Dr. Logan C. Jones joins us from Raleigh, North Carolina to discuss his new book, The Best of James Hollis: Wisdom for the Inner Journey, published on October 1st by Chiron Publications.
Episode 94: Nancy Swift Furlotti
Jungian analyst and author Nancy Swift Furlotti, Ph.D. joins us from Aspen, Colorado to discuss her upcoming Fay Lecture Series, "The Splendor of the Maya," and the new short film, "Soulheal"
Episode 93: David Rosen
We discuss the positive aspect of depression and how creative acts can help one out of their depression, Dr. Rosen's concept of 'egocide' as an alternative to suicide, Taoism in the lives of C.G. Jung and Elvis Presley, Betty Ford, The Alchemy of Cooking, and a whole lot more.
Episode 92: BTS at the UN
Jungian analyst and author of Jung's Map of the Soul, Murray Stein, Ph.D. returns to discuss BTS' groundbreaking speech at the 2021 United Nations General Assembly
Episode 91: Frank McMillan
Frank N. McMillan, III joins us from Corpus Christi, Texas to discuss his book, Finding Jung, the McMillan Institute for Jungian Studies, and the annual Fay Lecture Series in Analytical Psychology
Episode 90: Luis Moris
Luis Moris joins us to discuss training at ISAP Zürich, his production company Blue Salamandra Films, his research on life after death in the psychology of C.G. Jung, and director Stanley Kubrick's fascination with the shadow side of man.
Episode Q21: Simeon Hein
Dr. Hein discusses his work in the field of resonant sensing, his music, and his books, Opening Minds: A Journey of Extraordinary Encounters, Crop Circles, & Resonance (2002), Planetary Intelligence: 101 Easy Steps to Energy, Well-Being, & Natural Insight (2006), and Black Swan Ghosts: A Sociologist Encounters Witnesses to Unexplained Aerial Craft, Their Occupants, & Other Elements of the Multiver
Episode 89: Michael Marsman
Jungian analyst Michael Marsman joins us from Berkeley, California to discuss Kali, Ayyappan, Kali, and Hindu mythology, gender roles and transgenderism, and addiction & recovery
Episode Q20: Deep Prasad
Tech entrepreneur, scientist and researcher Deep Prasad in British Columbia, Canada
Episode Q19.5: Richard C. Hoagland
Episode 88: Synchronicity & Science
Jungian analyst and author John Ryan Haule, Ph.D. on his book, Jung in the 21st Century Vol. 2: Synchronicity & Science
Episode Q19: Ralph Blumenthal
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, long-time investigative reporter and distinguished lecturer Ralph Blumenthal joins us from New York City to discuss his new book – a comprehensive biography on the late Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John E. Mack
Episode 87: Evolution & Archetype
Jungian analyst and author John Ryan Haule returns for the third in a series of interviews. We discuss his book, Jung in the 21st Century Vol. 1: Evolution & Archetype, published by Routledge in 2010.
Episode Q18: BTS ARMY Help Center
We discuss BTS, the BTS ARMY, the ARMY Help Center, and how we both became involved.
Episode 86: Jung: An Introduction











