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GTM Live

Passetto 610 Episodes Jul 1, 2026

GTM Live is a weekly live show hosted by Carolyn Dilks and Trevor Gibson, co-founders of Passetto, a GTM agency for B2B SaaS companies. The podcast targets CEOs, CFOs, and revenue leaders who believe traditional go-to-market strategies are outdated. It focuses on honest discussions about tracking and optimizing GTM for unit economics, efficiency, and long-term growth, avoiding fluff and vanity metrics.

Episodes

The Rise and Fall of the MQL — Live Workshop Recording with Jon Miller Jul 1, 2026 00:47:32 📅 RSVP For Our Next Live Workshop on July 15: How To Run ABM and Outperform 10X Larger ProgramsThe MQL is marketing's worst open secret. Everyone in the room knows the number is gamed. The leads are low-intent, the scoring is guesswork, and the pipeline isn't growing. Yet marketing keeps getting graded on the one metric nobody actually trusts.In this workshop, Carolyn and Amber sit down wi
Brand Is Trust: Gong's Udi Ledergor on Marketing in the AI Era Jun 23, 2026 00:39:21 The marketing funnel you've built your whole strategy around? It never described how people actually buy. It was a tidy oversimplification, and in a world of zero-click search and AI-saturated channels, it's never held up worse.In this episode, Amber sits down with Udi Ledergor — Gong's first marketer, now Chief Evangelist, author of Courageous Marketing, and the guy who ran a Super Bo
What to Do When Your RevOps Team Is the Blocker to Your Marketing KPIs Jun 16, 2026 00:42:16 📹 NEW on YouTube: Ultimate Guide to Marketing Measurement in 2026There's no excuse left for not knowing what's driving revenue. The tools are here. The data is here. Operating without the answer has crossed from forgivable into malpractice.In this episode, Carolyn and Amber get into the marketing measurement problem every marketing leader is living with, and the reason it never gets solved
How AI Natives Are Using Claude Code to Rewrite GTM — with Jordan Crawford (Uncut in the Desert) Jun 2, 2026 00:23:48 In this episode, recorded out in the New Mexico desert at ChiliPalooza, Jordan Crawford makes a blunt case to B2B SaaS: the methodologies you built your career on are about to age out, and the only way through is to get your hands on Claude Code.Jordan's spent his whole job lately doing one thing: teaching clients to work with AI. And what he's found cuts against almost everything sales an
The Pressure B2B Marketing Leaders Don’t Talk About Enough May 28, 2026 00:47:45 You can't be a great marketer if your nervous system is stuck in survival mode.If you're a marketing leader, you know the feeling. The 12AM Slack from the CEO. The “where's-the-pipeline?” question that never goes away. The low-grade anxiety running underneath every campaign, every board deck, every quarter. In this episode, Carolyn and Amber connect the inner game to the measurement pr
How to Make Marketing Influence Defensible to Your CFO May 12, 2026 00:27:30 📹 NEW on YouTube: MQLs are Dead. Here’s What B2B Marketers Should Track InsteadYou can't be a great marketer if your best work doesn't show up in your data.If you're a marketing leader, you've spent years being measured by "Marketing Sourced" pipeline and revenue. And you've spent just as long watching your other work — your influence, your perception-shaping, your ro
Your Marketing QBR Deck Is Being Run by a 120-Year-Old Model May 5, 2026 00:18:12 Every B2B marketer knows the funnel concept is broken. Yet that same model your team is being measured on right now was invented in 1898, and it's surviving because nobody at the top has been given permission to use anything else.Carolyn and Amber react to a recent article in Adweek from Professor Mark Ritson, where he calls the funnel the "cockroach of marketing concepts", a 128-yea
Identifying Your Marketing Levers When the CRM Data Isn’t Perfect (data trust, finding leverage fast, AI analytics hallucinations) Apr 27, 2026 00:44:00 📹 NEW on YouTube: 5 Quick Ways to Fix Your B2B Marketing Tracking In this episode, Carolyn and Amber get into the data paralysis that's stalling most GTM teams right now, and why waiting for perfect data is just a slower way of doing nothing. They walk through a real client case study on fast-closing pipeline, what it revealed about where marketing actually has leverage, and why that answer lo
Why Marketing Can't See Its Own Impact (The Answer is in Your RevOps Setup) Apr 15, 2026 00:55:26 🗓️⁠ ⁠REGISTER⁠ for our April 22 webinar “The Rise and Fall of the MQL” with guest Jon Miller (cofounder of Marketo)In this live community episode, Carolyn and Amber break down two of the most common RevOps setups that make it nearly impossible for marketing to understand its own performance, and why most teams don’t realize how bad the problem is until leadership starts asking questions nobody can
What a SaaS CMO and VP of RevOps Found Hiding in Their Own Data Apr 9, 2026 00:52:05 🗓️ REGISTER for our April 22 webinar “The Rise and Fall of the MQL” with guest Jon Miller (cofounder of Marketo)In this episode, Carolyn and Amber break down a real-world case study of a SaaS company that came to Passetto with a mature business, an aligned GTM team, and a brand new VP of RevOps, but a data foundation that couldn't tell them what was actually driving their GTM motion or where i
Why Most Marketing Leaders Can't Prove Their Revenue Impact [Workshop Recording] Mar 23, 2026 00:55:08 Many marketing leaders struggle with being measured against revenue. That’s because the status quo measurement model doesn't capture everything they do, which means their true impact is almost always under-reported. This workshop is about how to fix that, and how to properly and comprehensively measure marketing's impact on pipeline and revenue, with data that let you walk into a boardroom
Why It's Time to Bury the MQL – With Jon Miller, the Marketo Co-Founder Who Helped Popularize It Mar 4, 2026 00:44:26 Jon Miller co-founded Marketo, the company that helped turn MQLs, lead scoring, and the demand waterfall into the operating system of B2B marketing. Now he's the one telling you to throw most of it out.When Jon did the same playbook at Demandbase that worked brilliantly at Marketo, it flopped. That failure changed how he thinks about almost everything.In this conversation, Carolyn sits down wi

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