Song Revolution with John Chisum
The Song Revolution Podcast empowers listeners with valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Hosted by John Chisum, the show aims to help aspiring and experienced songwriters improve their craft. Each episode features conversations with industry professionals who share their experiences and tips. The podcast is produced by Nashville Christian Songwriters, a community dedicated to supporting Christian songwriters.
Episodes
PHOEBE SCOTT & ANGELA JOWERS: Money, Mindset, and the Creative Life
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: PHOEBE SCOTT & ANGELA JOWERS: Money, Mindset, and the Creative Life HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Phoebe Scott and her mom, life coach Angela Jowers, join John Chisum for a conversation about creativity, mindset, and one topic many Christians struggle to talk about: money. Angela shares how changing your mindset can change the way you approach m
LAURA OSNES: How Do You Keep Going When the World Says No?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: LAURA OSNES: How Do You Keep Going When the World Says No? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Broadway star Laura Osnes joins John Chisum to talk about faith, resilience, creativity, and finding courage after seasons of rejection and hardship. Laura shares what she has learned from her Broadway career, her experience performing for the Memorial Day c
MEREDITH ANDREWS: Letting God Take Care of the Breadth
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: MEREDITH ANDREWS: Letting God Take Care of the Breadth HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with worship leader, songwriter, recording artist, and two-time Dove Award winner Meredith Andrews. Meredith shares the journey that led her from leading worship as a young girl to a life of ministry, mus
JORDAN SMITH: When You Can Sing Anything, What Do You Say?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JORDAN SMITH: When You Can Sing Anything, What Do You Say? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with Jordan Smith, one of the most recognizable voices to emerge from The Voice, for an honest conversation about music, faith, creativity, and the journey of discovering what comes next. Jordan share
HOPE DARST: What Happens When God Asks You to Let Go?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: HOPE DARST: What Happens When God Asks You to Let Go? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Hope Darst shares the story behind her music, from laying down her childhood dream of becoming an artist to eventually stepping into a music career later in life. She talks about how God used years of hidden preparation, healing, and surrender to reshape her iden
CLARK BECKHAM: Finding Your Voice and Following Your Calling
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: CLARK BECKHAM: Finding Your Voice and Following Your Calling HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Clark Beckham, American Idol Season 14 runner-up, shares his journey from growing up in Nashville to discovering his unique voice as a singer, songwriter, and musician. He talks about overcoming rejection, developing his vocal and musical skills, and learn
JOHN CHISUM: Are You Ready for the Independent Artist Era?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Are You Ready for the Independent Artist Era? HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich EPISODE SUMMARY John Chisum sits down with longtime friend and NCS team member Bryant Urich for a behind-the-scenes conversation about the changing music industry, the rise of the independent artist, and what it really takes to build a sustainable career and
WARREN PEAY: The Power of God's Timing
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: WARREN PEAY: The Power of God's Timing HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Warren Peay joins John Chisum for an inspiring conversation about faith, calling, perseverance, and the long road behind what can look like overnight success. A former appliance repairman and small-town musician from Bamberg, South Carolina, Warren shares how years of playing m
JORDAN ST. CYR: Faith Through The Fire
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JORDAN ST. CYR: Faith Through The Fire HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Jordan St. Cyr joins John Chisum for one of the deepest conversations of the season, sharing the remarkable story behind his family's journey through daughter Emory Grace's rare brain condition and the faith that carried them through years of uncertainty. Jordan reflects on how
TIM LOVELACE: The Power of Storytelling
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: TIM LOVELACE: The Power of Storytelling HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY What do comedy, storytelling, songwriting, and faith have in common? According to Tim Lovelace, they're all different expressions of the same creative gift from God. In this inspiring conversation, John Chisum welcomes Gospel Music Hall of Fame member, comedian, songwriter, musi
JOHN CHISUM: Why Do So Many Christian Songs Sound the Same?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: Why Do So Many Christian Songs Sound the Same? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY How do you write something fresh when the message of the Gospel never changes? In the final episode of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series, John explores one of the greatest challenges facing Christian songwriters: communicating timeless biblical truths in ways th
JOHN CHISUM: How Do You Turn a Good Song Into a Great One?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: How Do You Turn a Good Song Into a Great One? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Why do professional songwriters rewrite nearly every song they write? In this episode of Song Revolution, John tackles one of the most transformative lessons every songwriter must learn: writing is rewriting. While many beginning writers assume their first draft is exact
JOHN CHISUM: God Gave Me A Song…Now What?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: God Gave Me A Song…Now What? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY Does God really give people songs? In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, John tackles one of the most common—and sometimes misunderstood—phrases in Christian songwriting: "God gave me this song." Drawing from more than four decades of songwriting, publishing, and mentorin
JOHN CHISUM: What Is Music Publishing Really About?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: What Is Music Publishing Really About? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY What is music publishing—and does every songwriter actually need it? In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues unpacking the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide by diving into one of the most misunderstood areas of the music industry: publishing. Drawing from m
CHRIS CLAYTON: Crafting Songs with a Pastor's Heart
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: CHRIS CLAYTON: Crafting Songs with a Pastor's Heart HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich EPISODE SUMMARY What does it really take to grow as a songwriter in today's music world? In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum and Bryant Urich sit down with songwriter and producer Chris Clayton to unpack songwriting, worship, production, community, and w
JOHN CHISUM: What If the Question Isn't "Am I Good Enough?"
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: What If the Question Isn't "Am I Good Enough?" HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum continues the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series with a conversation centered on calling—what it means, how to recognize it, and what it actually requires. Drawing from 44 years in Christian music and minis
JOHN CHISUM: What Happens After You Write the Song?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: What Happens After You Write the Song? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum continues the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series with Theme #7: building a platform in the independent music world. John explores what it means to be an artist in today's creator economy and explains why writing gr
JOHN CHISUM: Why Aren't People Remembering Your Songs?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Why Aren't People Remembering Your Songs? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum continues the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series with a deep dive into one of the most important elements of songwriting: writing hooks that stick. Drawing from over four decades in Christian music and songwriti
JOHN CHISUM: Why Aren't Your Songs Resonating?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Why Aren't Your Songs Resonating? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum continues the walkthrough of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide by diving into Theme #5: finding your lane as a songwriter. John unpacks the importance of writing with clarity, direction, and genre awareness so your s
POINT OF GRACE: A Lifetime in Christian Music - and Still Going
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: POINT OF GRACE: A Lifetime in Christian Music - and Still Going HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this special guest episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes the iconic Christian music trio Point of Grace—Denise Jones, Leigh Cappillino, and Shelley Breen—to discuss their new album Lady Wisdom and the spiritual themes that shaped its creation. Wi
JOHN CHISUM: Do You Suffer From Lonely Songwriter Syndrome?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Do You Suffer From Lonely Songwriter Syndrome? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues working through his NCS Complete Songwriting Guide, focusing on Theme #4: Overcoming Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS). He emphasizes that one of the biggest obstacles holding songwriters back is not a lack
JOHN CHISUM: Why Are You A Songwriter?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Why Are You A Songwriter? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues the journey through the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide with Theme #3: Discovering Your Mission as a Christian Songwriter. He explores the importance of clarifying your personal "why" so that your songs have clear direction, dee
JOHN CHISUM: Is Your Song Ready?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Is Your Song Ready? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues exploring the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide with Theme #2: Taking Your Work from Demo to the World. He walks songwriters through the essential stages of music production—from simple voice memos to professional master recordings—and
JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John introduces Theme #1 from the brand-new NCS Complete Songwriting Guide—the call to become an intentional Christian songwriter. Rather than writing sporadically or waiting for inspiration to strike, John challenges songwriters to d
PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with multi-talented artist, songwriter, top-liner, and coach Phoebe Scott to explore the craft, mindset, and spiritual foundation of songwriting. Phoebe shares her journey from small-town beginnings in West T
JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John shares a powerful and honest message about the importance of mentoring and coaching in the journey of becoming a great Christian songwriter and artist. Drawing from over four decades in the music industry, John reflects on his own apprenti
CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with returning guest, artist, and songwriter Clark Beckham for a powerful conversation on artistry, worship, and the pursuit of excellence in songwriting. From his journey as a finalist on American Idol to becoming an NCS Rec
JOHN CHISUM: Don't Be A Lazy Songwriter
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Don't Be A Lazy Songwriter EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum dives into one of the most essential—and often overlooked—skills in songwriting: finding truly great ideas. Against the backdrop of today's rapidly evolving AI landscape, John challenges songwriters to resist shortcuts and instead pursue authenticity
GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with award-winning artist, songwriter, theologian, and worship leader Ginny Owens. From her early discovery by Michael W. Smith and her years in the CCM spotlight to seasons of burnout, spiritual wrestling, and renewed calling, G
DANIEL DOSS: Revival and Songwriting
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: DANIEL DOSS: Revival and Songwriting HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with songwriter and artist Daniel Doss for an honest conversation about calling, perseverance, and the refining process of songwriting. Daniel shares his journey into music, the challenges of building a career while staying gro
SHAYLEE SIMEONE: Honest Jesus Music
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: SHAYLEE SIMEONE: Honest Jesus Music HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes singer, songwriter, and storyteller Shaylee Simeone for an honest and heartfelt conversation about identity, calling, and the long road of obedience in a creative life. Shaylee shares her journey from early musical influences and f
AMANDA JANSON: Sinner To Saint
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: AMANDA JANSON: Sinner To Saint HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this powerful episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with worship artist and songwriter Amanda Janson for an honest and deeply vulnerable conversation about faith, calling, trauma, and songwriting as testimony. Amanda shares her journey from a Broadway-bound upbringing and a com
JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum tackles one of the most pressing issues facing today's music creators: artificial intelligence in songwriting. Fresh off multiple interviews at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) convention, where AI was t
JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with singer-songwriter Jackson Dreyer for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about creativity, discipline, and finding your voice as a songwriter. From growing up outside Chicago to planting roots in East Nashville, J
LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes Broadway star, film actress, and singer-songwriter Laura Osnes for a deeply personal conversation about calling, identity, and creativity. Laura shares her journey from early musical theater roots to starring on Broadway, n
MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with artist and songwriter Micah Christopher to explore the journey from local church leadership to signing with Integrity Music. Micah shares his story of faith, obedience, and gradual growth, emphasizing how songwriti
JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich EPISODE SUMMARY In this opening episode of Season Four of Song Revolution, John and co-host Bryant Urich reflect on the highlights of the past year while casting vision for 2026. They discuss the growth of the NCS community, the return of in-person songwriting retreats, the la
DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Dan Dean Episode Title: DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Son
ANDREW GREER: Songwriting and Storytelling
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: ANDREW GREER (part 1): Songwriting and Storytelling Host: John Chisum Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this rich and heartfelt conversation, John welcomes singer-songwriter,
SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert Host: John Chisum Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this deeply moving episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes recording a
CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Runner-Up, Soul/R&B Artist, Educator, Host of Idol Breakdown Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite
NIKI LOU SAVICH: Songs Born From Poetry
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum EPISODE TITLE: NIKI LOU SAVICH: Songs Born From Poetry EPISODE SUMMARY: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with longtime friend, songwriter, and Americana/folk artist Niki Lou Savich to reflect on her remarkable creative and spiritual journey. Once an international model, poet, caregiver, and therapist, Niki shares how
MICHAEL LEE BROWN: From Broadway to Songwriting
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Michael Lee Brown Episode Title: MICHAEL LEE BROWN: From Broadway to Songwriting Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes singer, songwriter, and Broadway actor Michael Lee Brown, best known for his four-year run in Dear Evan Hansen on Broadway. Michael shares his unexpected journey into the NCS studio, h
STOWTOWN WORSHIP: Unity, Legacy, and Worship
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: STOWTOWN WORSHIP: Unity, Legacy, and Worship Episode Summary: In this episode, John welcomes an extraordinary lineup of worship leaders and vocal powerhouses—Alvin Slaughter, Steven McWhirter, and TaRanda Greene—along with the vision behind StowTown Worship's new project, Live from the Iron Manor. What began as a desire to bless w
JOHN CHISUM: The Craft of Christmas Songwriting
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: The Craft of Christmas Songwriting Episode Summary: In this festive episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum and co-host Bryant Urich dive into the art and craft of writing Christmas songs. From exploring why holiday music resonates so deeply to analyzing the lyrical and musical trends behind t
JAMIE JAMGOCHIAN: Learning to Wait Well with God
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: JAMIE JAMGOCHIAN: Learning to Wait Well with God Episode Summary: In this inspiring episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, host John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter, worship leader, and author Jamie Jamgochian for a rich conversation about creativity, calling, spiritual formation, and her new book Sacred Surrender: The Pra
MARY LOU KAYSER: The Power of Poetry
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Mary Lou Kayser Episode Title: The Power of Poetry Episode Summary In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes poet, author, and creative entrepreneur Mary Lou Kayser for a deeply moving and thought-provoking conversation on art, creativity, and what it means to live—and write—fully in a digital age. Mary Lou shares
ED RODE: We Are All Storytellers
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: ED RODE: We Are All Storytellers Guest: Ed Rode, Iconic Nashville Photographer and Author of "Songwriter: Musician Behind the Curtain with Nashville's Iconic Storytellers and Players" Host: John Chisum Episode Summary In this visually rich and inspiring episode, host John Chisum sits down with celebrated photographer Ed Rode, whose lens has c
JOHN CHISUM: Developing The Skill of Rewriting
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: The Skill of Rewriting Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with NCS Vice President of A&R and Production, Bryant Urich, to dive deep into the art and discipline of rewriting songs. As part of the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge, they explore why rewriting is essential to crafting po
Steele Crosswhite & Caleb Yetton: From Rock to Redemption
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: Steele Crosswhite & Caleb Yetton: From Rock to Redemption Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with Steele Crosswhite and Caleb Yetton from The Rock Church in Salt Lake City, Utah. Once a rock musician sharing stages with artists like the Foo Fighters, Sheryl Crow, and Maroon 5, Steele e
DAWN & STEVE: Faith, Radio, and Soul Care
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: DAWN & STEVE: Faith, Radio, and Soul Care Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum turns the tables and welcomes longtime radio hosts Dawn Ray May and Steve Hiller, formerly of Moody Radio and now co-hosts of the Dawn and Steve Plus podcast. With decades of experience in Christian radio, Dawn and Stev
CLARK BECKHAM: American Idol Finalist on Songwriting & Surrender
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: American Idol Finalist on Songwriting & Surrender Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter, musician, and American Idol finalist Clark Beckham. Known for his soulful voice and authentic artistry, Clark shares his journey from small-town beginnings to national
MIA FIELDES: Writing From Revelation
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: MIA FIELDES: Writing From Revelation Episode Summary In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with acclaimed songwriter and worship leader Mia Fieldes, whose songs have been recorded by artists like Lauren Daigle, Zach Williams, Phil Wickham, Kim Walker-Smith, and many more. From growing up in poverty and se
JOHN CHISUM: Does God Really Give You Songs?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Does God Really Give You Songs? Episode Summary: In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich tackle one of the most frequently asked—and often misunderstood—questions among songwriters: Does God really give you songs? As Nashville Christian Songwriters celebrates
STAFF EDITION: NCS Staff Takeover
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: Claire Bacon, Bryant Urich, Chris Crenshaw, Kyle Kicker, and Jack Landis Episode Title: STAFF EDITION: NCS Staff Takeover Episode Summary: In this special episode of Song Revolution, the microphones are turned toward the Nashville Christian Songwriters staffas the team celebrates NCS's upcoming 10-year anniversary. With John Chisum away on vacation,
ANDREW GREER: Mysticism, Minimalism, and Music
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: ANDREW GREER: Mysticism, Minimalism, and Music Episode Summary In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes back singer-songwriter, producer, and filmmaker Andrew Greer for another deep and thought-provoking conversation. From literature and scripture to mysticism, minimalism, and music, John and Andrew expl
JOHN CHISUM: Inside Music Publishing
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum, Claire Bacon, & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Inside Music Publishing Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum is joined by Claire Bacon and Bryant Urich from the NCS team for a lively and practical discussion on music publishing. Together, they break down the difference between creative and administrative publishin
ANDREW GREER: Songwriting and Storytelling
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: ANDREW GREER (part 1): Songwriting and Storytelling Host: John Chisum Episode Summary: In this rich and heartfelt conversation, John welcomes singer-songwriter, producer, author, and documentarian Andrew Greer to Song Revolution. From his early days growing up in Texas with music all around him, to his time at Belmont University, and now as a
JOHN CHISUM: Music Publishing in 2025
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum, Claire Bacon, & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Music Publishing in 2025 Episode Summary: Season 3 of Song Revolution continues with a practical and eye-opening conversation on one of the most misunderstood topics in the music industry: publishing. Hosts John Chisum, Claire Bacon, and Bryant Urich break down what publishing really means in 2
MADALYN ROSE: Forgiveness, Faith, and Finding Your Voice
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum Episode Title: MADALYN ROSE: Forgiveness, Faith, and Finding Your Voice Episode Summary: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down in Moab, Utah, with emerging singer-songwriter Madalyn Rose to talk about her journey through personal loss, rebuilding her life, and finding healing through songwriting. From he
JOHN CHISUM: Time, Tithe, and Talent
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Time, Tithe, and Talent Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum and Bryant Urich shift the focus inward to explore what it really means to be a songwriter in today's world. Beyond writing lyrics and melodies, this conversation is about discovering the deeper motivations that drive you
DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Dan Dean Episode Title: DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean Episode Summary: In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Dan Dean—one-third of the legendary trio Phillips, Craig & Dean—to explore a decades-long career marked by timeless songs, deep-rooted mi
JOHN CHISUM: Want to Be a Christian Artist?
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Want to Be a Christian Artist? Episode Summary: Season 3 of Song Revolution kicks off with a powerful conversation between hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich about what it truly means to pursue a calling as a Christian artist. Reflecting on their recent experience at the Heaven on Earth Festival in Moab, Utah
JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials Into Testimony
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: Bryant Urich Guest: Justin Gambino Episode Title: JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials into Testimony Episode Summary: In one of the most powerful episodes of Song Revolution to date, host Bryant Urich sits down with recording artist and worship leader Justin Gambino, who shares his raw and redemptive life story—from addiction and criminal charges at age 18, to l
JOHN CHISUM: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue their deep dive into what it means to build a career in the current music landscape. They break down how the music business has radically changed in recent years, why anyone
CHRIS WEINBERG: Build a Business For Your Music
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Special Guest: Chris Weinberg Episode Title: CHRIS WEINBERG: Build a Business For Your Music Episode Summary: This week on Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Chris Weinberg, a top business and performance coach who has worked with Fortune 500 executives, artists, entertainment companies, and entrepreneurs. As someone who has help
JOHN CHISUM: How Music Works Now
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: How Music Works Now Episode Summary: In this kickoff episode for July, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich reflect on the first half of 2025 and introduce the month's focus: understanding how the music industry works today. They explore the challenges and changes facing songwriters and artists, especially thos
MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Mandy Morris (Executive Coach, Therapist, EMDR Specialist) Episode Title: MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR Episode Summary: In this compelling episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Mandy Morris, a licensed therapist, executive psychological coach, and EMDR specialist. Together, they explore how trau
SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert Host: John Chisum Episode Summary: In this deeply moving episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes recording artist and worship leader Sarah Kroger for an honest conversation about faith, identity, songwriting, and spiritual wilderness. With a contemplative heart and a background shaped by Ca
JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and the Unforgettable Titles (Part 2)
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and the Power of Journaling (Part 2) Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Summary: In this follow-up to their previous conversation on song concepts, John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive deeper into the craft of generating unforgettable song ideas and titles. Building on the foundation laid in Part 1, they explore ho
EMILY HOSTETLER: Heaven On Earth
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Emily Hostetler (Founder of Heaven on Earth Festival) Episode Title: EMILY HOSTETLER: Heaven On Earth Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum is joined by special guest Emily Hostetler, founder of the Heaven on Earth music festival—a unique and immersive Christian music and wellness event held in stun
JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and Unforgettable Titles
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and Unforgettable Titles Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Summary: This week on Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich kick off June with an essential topic for every songwriter: how to develop killer ideas and unforgettable titles. Great songs start with strong hooks, but how do you find them?
CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State Hosts: John Chisum Guest: Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Runner-Up, Soul/R&B Artist, Educator, Host of Idol Breakdown Episode Summary: In this powerful episode, John sits down with acclaimed vocalist and musician Clark Beckham to unpack his journey from street performer to American Idol fa
JOHN CHISUM: Writing in Your Best Genre
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Writing in Your Best Genre Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue their deep dive into genre, style, and artistic identity—with practical insights on how to discover and develop your best musical lane. From personal stories to real-world examples like
CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Claire Bacon (Project Manager, NCS) Episode Title: CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum introduces a new member of the NCS team: Claire Bacon, NCS Project Manager and music industry pro. With experience at Bethel Music, Pure Mosaic, and a degree from Middle Te
JOHN CHISUM: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive deep into one of the most important (and often confusing) parts of being a songwriter or artist: understanding your genre and style. This discussion is packed with practical insigh
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Adrian Thompson (Head of A&R, Bethel Music) Episode Title: Adrian Thompson: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music Episode Summary: In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Adrian Thompson, the Head of A&R at Bethel Music and former VP of A&R at Integrity Music. They discuss the impact of Bethel M
JOHN CHISUM: Building Your Creative Team
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Building Your Creative Team Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich explore one of the most important factors in a songwriter's success—building a strong creative team. While many songwriters start out alone, no artist truly succeeds in isolation. It takes produ
JARED ANDERSON & Kelly Wilkerson: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guests: Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson (11:21 Worship) Episode Title: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Jared Anderson (writer of Great I Am, Rescue, Lord, I'm Amazed) and Kelly Wilkerson of 11:21 Worship to talk about the power of worship, l
JOHN CHISUM: Creating In Community
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: Creating In Community Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into one of the most essential aspects of songwriting success—creating in community. Many songwriters struggle with Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS), feeling isolated in their creative process.
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