The VBAC Facts® Podcast with Jen Kamel
Join VBAC Facts® Founder and CEO Jen Kamel as she brings you evidence-based discussions about vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) including the shocking medical evidence, breathtaking birth stories, inspiring advocacy victories, and sobering legal cases. Jen and her guests both celebrate triumphs and highlight opportunities for improvement in health care. The podcast aims to create a world where everyone has access to respectful, evidence-based health care.
Episodes
E21 A Personal Update & Announcement
In this episode, Jen shares a personal update and announces that the podcast will be on hiatus.Have a comment or question for the podcast? Want to suggest a guest we should interview or a topic we should discuss? Go to https://vbacfacts.com/podcast to give us your feedback!Downloadable Handout: 3 Surprising Things US National Guidelines Say About VBAC | VBAC Facts®Downloadable Checklist: The 5 Sim
E20 Hospital VBA2C with a Curved Tailbone After Two FTP Cesareans at 10 Centimeters with Licia Popernack
Licia Popernack was told that she had a curved tailbone and would never give birth vaginally. And after two cesareans, both after reaching 10 centimeters and pushing for hours, could that be true? Plus, she was only five feet and one inch tall...Licia shares with us the challenges she faced on her journey to a victorious hospital VBA2C from friends and family who wondered why this was so important
E19 Surviving Placenta Percreta After Three Cesareans with Dawn Baranski
93% of women pregnant after one or more cesareans are not informed about the risk of placenta accreta spectrum that rises with each subsequent cesarean. Instead, they are assured that a repeat cesarean is safe and a planned VBAC is risky and, as a result, they schedule another cesarean. Dawn Baranski was one of those women. After enduring the bait and switch after her first cesarean, she had one m
E18 "I Never Thought a 20-Week Abortion Ban Would Impact Me" with Megan Kling
Never thought you would have an abortion? That's exactly what Wisconsin mom and maternal health advocate Megan Kling believed until she became pregnant with her third much wanted and planned child.Megan courageously shares her deeply personal story of terminating two pregnancies for medical reasons. She discusses the profound impact of abortion restrictions, the challenges of navigating medical in
E17 An Attorney's Fight to Challenge Rights Violations & Illegal Maternal Care Practices with Hermine Hayes-Klein
Confusion and fear over lawsuits drives health care in the US and even more so within obstetrics and midwifery. In the midst of defensive medicine as default, many clinicians miss the one decision that provides ultimate litigation protection. Hermine Hayes-Klein is single handedly changing the landscape relative to litigation within maternal health care. An informed consent expert and internationa
E16 "Hospitals Cannot Legally Enforce VBAC Bans" and Other Juicy Advocacy Tidbits with Barbara Stratton plus Next VBAC Facts® Training, Reader Stories, & TikTok Traps
Want to change hospital policy, VBAC ban, placenta policy, or otherwise? Barbara Stratton is your gal. In this interview, Barbara reflects back on over 20 years of activism and shares her biggest tips to changing hospital policy as well as what first time parents wish they knew. She shares insights on speaking to the media, planning a rally, searching for the perfect VBAC plaintiff as well as the
E15 A Psychologist's Journey Navigating a Hospital VBAC Ban with Dr. Denise Jaimes-Villanueva PsyD
What do you do when you are pregnant after a cesarean and the only hospital in your community has a VBAC ban? Come hear the story of Dr. Denise Jaimes-Villanueva PsyD of Santa Barbara, California as she shares everything she endured to avoid compulsory surgery. From the challenges around finding a provider in a community where the influence of the hostile VBAC climate permeated to the financial an
E14 An OB Scientist's Caution on the VBAC Calculator and Informed Consent with Dr. Nicholas Rubashkin MD PhD
Ever use the VBAC calculator? Then you will want to listen to physician scientist and VBAC calculator researcher Dr. Nicholas Rubashkin, MD, PhD, an Associate Professor at UC San Francisco, as he reviews the historical and cultural implications of the VBAC calculator, a tool used to predict vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) odds. The conversation uncovers how the calculator has propagated racist
E13 Why This OB/GYN Passionately Supports VBAC Access (And You Should Too) with Dr. Chris Stroud
Heard no one supports VBAC? Simply not true. Join Dr. Chris Stroud OB/GYN of Fort Wayne, Indiana has he considers his 30 year career and shares why offering VBAC is so important to him, including his reasoning for supporting community midwives who attend home and birth center VBAC. We discuss the concept of "acceptable complications," which may provide some insight as to why many OBs in the United
E12 Jen Kamel's interview on All Things Women's Health with Dr. Chris Stroud
Why does VBAC access matter and how does the concept of "acceptable risk" influence how some physicians view cesarean versus VBAC complications? Learn that and more when VBAC Facts® Founder Jen Kamel is interviewed on "All Things Women's Health" with Dr. Chris Stroud. She will share the impact of her births on her life, what it was like to experience a contraction for the first time, why it is so
E11 A Community’s 10 Year Fight Against a Hospital VBAC Ban with Anastasia Stone
What do you do when your local hospital bans vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) and leads people to believe that their only option there is a repeat cesarean? What about when they start to withhold pain relief to anyone who "insists" on laboring after a cesarean? When this happened in Santa Barbara, California, local activists and mothers took action. Come learn what is possible when you know the
E10 A Midwife Attended Hospital VBA2C with Gestational Diabetes and Suspected Big Baby with Laura Stimson
Less than 3% of people labor after two cesareans in the US. Laura Stimson was one of those people. After having her first cesarean for twins and an elective repeat cesarean during COVID, she really wanted to experience a vaginal birth after two cesareans (VBA2C). A chance conversation with a midwife at a dinner party opened her eyes to what was possible. She learned that hospital midwives in her a
E9 Navigating Medical Mistrust with Amber Vayo PhD + Alberta, Canada Hospital VBA2C After CPD
What causes someone to distrust the medical system? What impact does that have on public health? Join Dr. Amber Vayo PhD, a maternal health and politics researcher, as she answers those questions and so much more. Dr. Vayo shares insights on the role of trust, the impact of institutional betrayal, and the significance of listening to women's experiences. The discussion highlights various facets of
E8 Vaginal Birth After Two Cesareans (VBA2C): Stories, Evidence, and Insights
If you think VBA2C is dangerous or no one "allows" them, you would be wrong. Join VBAC Facts® Founder Jen Kamel in this discussion of the feasibility and evidence surrounding VBA2C. Drawing from real-life birth stories, Jen emphasizes the importance of informed decision-making and patient autonomy, psychological implications, and the risks associated with multiple repeat cesareans. The episode als
E7 40+ VBAC Myths Busted! Plus Hospital VBA2C After Uterine Defect
There are too many myths about VBAC to count. Good thing we give the top 40 a quick smashing in this episode. VBAC Facts® Founder Jen Kamel highlights critical information about VBAC safety, risks, and the support provided by national health organizations. She addresses common misconceptions about uterine rupture, perinatal and maternal mortality, midwives, and the risks associated with repeat ces
E6 Decoding the VBAC Calculator: Science, Bias, and Decision Making
Think the VBAC calculator is rooted in solid medical evidence? This episode with VBAC Facts® Founder Jen Kamel dives into the accuracy and impact of VBAC calculators. Jen discusses a variety of factors influencing predicted VBAC odds as well as actual VBAC rates, including race, BMI, reason for prior cesarean, bias, provider preference, and VBAC bans. Key research, such as Harris 2019, Nguyen 2020
E5 Autonomy, Authority, Coercion & Consent: Who Decides in Maternity Care?
People are shocked when they learn that the American College of OB/GYN (ACOG) says that women and pregnant people have the final say in medical decision making. Jen Kamel, founder of VBAC Facts®, discusses the principles of informed decision making in the context of vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) versus repeat cesarean. Emphasizing the ethical obligations in healthcare, Jen explores ACOG's Co
E4 The Rules About VBAC (Part 2): A Deep Dive into US VBAC Guidelines with Jen Kamel
You might be surprised to read what the US national guidelines actually say about VBAC. Join Jen Kamel, founder & CEO of VBAC Facts®, as she delves deep into the American College of OB/GYN's VBAC guidelines. The episode covers a range of topics including external cephalic version, epidurals, VBAC in rural hospitals, and who makes the ultimate decision regarding mode of birth. Jen provides a de
E3 The Rules About VBAC (Part 1): A Deep Dive into US VBAC Guidelines with Jen Kamel
Heard national guidelines don't support VBAC? Well you heard wrong. Join us for a deep dive into the American College of OBGYN's VBAC guidelines. Join VBAC Facts® Founder Jen Kamel as she explains the significance of these guidelines for anyone birthing in the U.S. or working in healthcare. Jen clears up common misconceptions, highlights the difference between uterine rupture and dehiscence, and s
E2 Coerced Cesareans Struck Down Part 2: The Woman Behind Israel’s Landmark Ruling Speaks Out: "Esther" & Tamir Turgal
We continue "Esther's" harrowing story of avoiding a court ordered cesarean. "Esther" navigates an unassisted birth after four prior cesareans amidst intense scrutiny from social and emergency services. Follow her journey through legal battles, hiding from authorities, and ultimately obtaining a landmark ruling from the Israeli Supreme Court that upholds the right to decline a cesarean. Discover t
E1 Coerced Cesareans Struck Down Part 1: The Woman and Attorney Behind Israel’s Landmark Ruling Speaks Out with "Esther" & Tamir Turgal
What would it feel like to be hunted by the police and social services over your birth choices? "Esther" found out. Join our gripping discussion with Esther and her experience with the Israeli Supreme Court ruling favoring her choice against a compelled repeat cesarean. The conversation with Esther and her attorney Tamir explores deep-seated issues of medical coercion, informed consent, and the et
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