That Said With Michael Zeldin
That Said is a weekly series that takes a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Hosted by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, the show features candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers. The discussions explore their ideas to help move us forward as a community and as a country. The podcast is proudly presented by CommPRO and the Museum of Public Relations.
Episodes
Riding For America | Nancy Hays
Join Michael in his conversation with Nancy Hays about her new young reader’s book Riding for America, The Story of Isaac Murphy, Sports Icon of the 19th Century which tells the story of the most storied and yet forgotten African American jockey of all time.Nancy received her bachelor’s degree from University of Illinois in Urbana and master’s degree from Northwestern University. She founded Nancy
The Women's Orchestra of Auschwitz | Anne Sebba
Join Michael in his conversation with Anne Sebba about her new book The Women’s Orchestra of Auschwitz, A Story of Survival which tells the story of a group of almost fifty women and girls from eleven nations who were drafted into band to entertain their Nazi guards and further torture their fellow inmates.Anne Sebba is a prizewinning biographer, lecturer, and former Reuters foreign correspondent.
Lynne Olson | The Sisterhood of Ravensbrück
Join Michael in his conversation with Lynne Olson about her new book The Sisterhood of Ravensbrück, How an Intrepid Band of Frenchwomen Resisted the Nazis in Hitler’s All-Female Concentration Camp which tells the remarkable story of these women who joined forces to defy their German captures and keep one another alive.Lynne Olson is a New York Times bestselling author of ten books focusing on unsu
Nina Willner | The Boys in the Light
Join Michael in his conversation with Nina Willner about her new book, The Boys in the Light, An Extraordinary World War II Story of Survival, Faith, and Brotherhood which tells the parallel stories of the American soldiers of Company D and their march across Europe and that of her Jewish family caught in the horrors of Nazi German. Nina Willner is an American nonfiction author, a former US Army i
Graydon Carter | When the Going Was Good
Join Michael in his conversation with Graydon Carter about his memoir When the Going was Good, An Editor’s Adventures During the Last Golden Age of Magazines which documents his life and storied journalism career including his twenty-five years as the award-winning editor of Vanity Fair.Graydon Carter is the founder of Air Mail. Before this, he was a staff writer for both Time and Life. He cocreat
Elliot Williams | Five Bullets
Join Michael in his conversation with Elliot Williams about his new book Five Bullets, The Story of Bernie Goetz, New York’s Explosive ’80s, and the Subway Vigilante Trial that Divided the Nation which explores the riveting events surrounding the shooting of four Black teenagers by a white man on a NY subway car.Elliot Williams was a Deputy Assistant Attorney General for legislative affairs at the
When Caesar Was King | David Margolick
Join Michael in his conversation with David Margolick about his new book When Caesar Was King, How Sid Ceasar Reinvented American Comedy which chronicles the life and times of Sid Caesar who, essentially, invented sketch comedy for television with his shows Your Show of Shows and the Caesar Hour in the 1950s. As Mel Brooks said “without Sid Caesar there would be no Mel Brooks.” David Margolick is
Ozzy and Me | Stephen Rea and Guest Co-host Randy Blythe
Join Michael’s conversation with Stephen Rea about his new book Ozzy and Me, Life Lesson, Wild Stories and Unexpected Epiphanies from Forty Years of Friendship with the Prince of Darkness which chronicles his more than 40-year friendship with Ozzy Osbourne.Stephen Rea is a former United Kingdom newspaper journalist and the author of the memoir Finn McCool’s Football Club. Originally from Northern
The Traitor's Circle | Jonathan Freedland
Join Michael in his conversation with Jonathan Freedland about his new non-fiction book The Traitors Circle, The True Story of a Secret Resistance Network in Nazi Germany—and the Spy Who Betrayed Them which tells the story of a circle of unlikely rebels, drawn from the German elite who shared loathing of the Nazis, a refusal to bow to Hitler and the courage to perform perilous acts of resistance.
James Clyburn | The First Eight: A Personal History of the Pioneering Black Congressmen Who Shaped a Nation
On today's show we'll be speaking with Congressman Jim Clyburn about his new book, The First Eight, a personal history of the pioneering black congressmen who shaped a nation, which tells the story of those black congressmen from South Carolina who were elected in the aftermath of the Civil War while revealing why it took nearly a century before the ninth.The First Eight: A Personal Histor
Andrew Porwancher | American Maccabee: Theodore Roosevelt & The Jews
On today's show, we are speaking with Andrew Porwancher about his new book, “American Maccabee, Theodore Roosevelt and the Jews.” This episode was taped before a live stream audience in conjunction with Adas Israel Synagogue and Temple Beth El.Most Americans underestimate how deeply Theodore Roosevelt's relationship with Jewish communities shaped both his policies and his legacy. Discover
Chris Matthews | Lessons from Bobby, Ten Reasons Robert F. Kennedy Still Matters
On this week’s show we will be speaking with Chris Matthews about his new book Lessons from Bobby, Ten Reasons Robert F. Kennedy Still Matters which offers important lessons for public and private sector leaders alike.Chris Matthews hosted Hardball with Chris Matthews for a generation on MSNBC and now can be found exclusively on Substack. Chris is the acclaimed New York Times bestselling author of
Jeffrey Rosen | The Pursuit of Liberty
Join Michael in his conversation with Jeffrey Rosen about his new book, The Pursuit of Liberty. How Jefferson versus Hamilton ignited the lasting battle over power in America. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Dr. Sanjay Gupta | It Doesn't Have to Hurt
Join Michael in his conversation Dr. Sanjay Gupta about his book It Doesn’t Have to Hurt, Your Smart Guide to a Pain-Free Life which explores the neuroscience of chronic pain and offers a seven-step process for addressing it. Dr. Gupta is an Associate Professor of neurosurgery at Emory University School of Medicine, a member of the National Academy of Medicine, and CNN’s Emmy Award-winning chief m
Melting Point
Join Michael in his previously recorded special presentation in conjunction with Adas Israel Congregation of Washington, DC and Congregation Beth El in Montgomery County, Maryland with Rachel Cockerell about her new book Melting Point: Family, Memory, and the Search for a Promised Land. Rachel Cockerell is a writer and historian, born and raised in London. The book is an “experimental” history abo
Jane Leavy | Make Me Commissioner | Part 2
Join Michael in his conversation with Jane Leavy about her new book, Make Me Commissioner, I Know What’s Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It which is a behind the scenes road trip through the far corners of the baseball world as she sets out to uncover how the game broke, and to find the people and the ideas that just might bring it back.Jane Leavy is an award-winning former sportswriter and fea
Jane Leavy | Make Me Commissioner | Part 1
Join Michael in his conversation with Jane Leavy about her new book, Make Me Commissioner, I Know What’s Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It which is a behind the scenes road trip through the far corners of the baseball world as she sets out to uncover how the game broke, and to find the people and the ideas that just might bring it back.Jane Leavy is an award-winning former sportswriter and fea
DeMaurice Smith | Turf Wars | Part 2
Join Michael in his conversation with DeMaurice Smith about his new book, Turf Wars, The Fight for the Soul of America’s Game which chronicles his 14-year tenure as the head of the National Football League Players Association.DeMaurice Smith is the former executive director of the National Football League Players Association. Prior to the NFLPA, De was an assistant United States attorney, counsel
DeMaurice Smith | Turf Wars | Part 1
Join Michael in his conversation with DeMaurice Smith about his new book, Turf Wars, The Fight for the Soul of America’s Game which chronicles his 14-year tenure as the head of the National Football League Players Association.DeMaurice Smith is the former executive director of the National Football League Players Association. Prior to the NFLPA, De was an assistant United States attorney, counsel
Alex Vernon | Peace is a Shy Thing; The Life and Art of Tim O'Brien
Join Michael in his conversation with Alex Vernon about his new book Peace is a Shy Thing, The Life and Art of Tim O’Brien which chronicles the life and writings of Tim O’Brien best known for his beloved book The Things They Carried.Alex is the M.E. and Ima Graves Peace Distinguished Professor of English at Hendrix College. Alex Vernon graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point (the on
Homestand, Small Town Baseball and the Fight for the Soul of America | Will Bardenwerper
Join Michael in his conversation with Will Bardenwerper about his new book Homestand, Small Town Baseball and the Fight for the Soul of America which tells the story of Will’s efforts to find the heart of Americana through the lens of minor league baseball. Will has contributed to The New York Times, The Washington Post, Harper’s and other outlets and is the author of The Prisoner in His Palace: S
Revisiting A Conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Famer
Join Michael Zeldin for this extraordinary 90-minute conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame drummer from Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band, as they discuss Max’s musical career, his thoughts on music and drumming, his recollections of other great drummers, especially the late Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, and much more. Guest Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame dru
Revisiting: Stevie Van Zandt | Unrequited Infatuations’
Stevie Van Zandt while, perhaps, best known as a founding member of Bruce Springsteen’s E Street band and leader of Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul, he is also a writer, producer, actor (having starred in the Sopranos and Lilyhammer), radio host on Sirius/XM’s Little Steven’s Underground garage, political activist, founder of TeachRock.org, and much more. He is also a member of the Rock an
Revisiting | Cody Keenan | Grace: President Obama and Ten Days in the Battle for America
Join Michael in his discussion with Cody Keenan as they discuss his book, Grace: President Obama and Ten Days in the Battle for America. The book recounts the most remarkable eulogy delivered by President Obama in Charleston, South Carolina after the hate crime murders of Reverend Pickney and eight parishioners in the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.Guest Cody KeenanCody Keenan rose fr
Mother Emanuel, Two Centuries of Race, Resistance, and Forgiveness in One Charleston Church | Kevin Sack
Join Michael in his conversation with Kevin Sack about his new book Mother Emanuel, Two Centuries of Race, Resistance, and Forgiveness in One Charleston Church which is an epic account of perseverance not just the Mother Emanuel congregation in Charleston, SC but of a people who withstood enslavement, Jim Crow, and all matter of violence with an unbending faith.Kevin Sack is a veteran journalist
Becoming Janet, Finding Myself In The Holocaust | Janet Singer Applefield
Join Michael in his conversation with Janet Singer Applefield about her new book Becoming Janet, Finding Myself In The Holocaust which tells the story of her survival as a child in Poland during the Holocaust.Janet is one of the 11% of Jewish children who survived the Holocaust thanks to the kindness of righteous Christians. Since coming to America, Janet earned her undergraduate degree from Rutge
The Preventive State | Alan Dershowitz
Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Alan Dershowitz about his new book The Preventive State, The Challenge of Preventing Serious Harms While Preserving Essential Liberties which articulates a jurisprudence of prevention which endeavors to balance the needs of governments to prevent future harm while balancing the need to protect fundamental civil liberties.Alan Dershowitz has been liti
Gareth Gore | Opus, The Cult of Dark Money, Human Trafficking, and Right-Wing Conspiracy in the Catholic Church
Join Michael in his conversation with Gareth Gore about his new book, Opus, The Cult of Dark Money, Human Trafficking, and Right-Wing Conspiracy in the Catholic Church, which documents the rise and secret history of the Opus Dei movement. Gareth is a financial journalist and editor with two decades of experience covering some of the biggest financial stories in over 25 countries.His writing has be
Becky Aikman | Spitfires: The American Women Who Flew in the Face of Danger During World War II
Join Michael in his conversation with Becky Aikman about her new book, Spitfires, The American Women Who Flew in the Face of Danger During World War II which tells the story of the American Women who flew the world’s most dangerous aircraft through the treacherous skies over Great Britain during World War II.Becky Aikman is the author of two books of narrative nonfiction: her memoir, Saturday Nigh
Joan Nathan | My Life in Recipes, Food, Family, and Memories
Join Michael in his conversation with Joan Nathan about her fabulous book, My Life in Recipes, Food, Family, and Memories which uses recipes to look back on her life, her family history, and her personal journey discovering Jewish cuisine from around the world.Joan is the author of twelve cookbooks. Her books have won awards from both the International Association of Culinary Professionals and the
Robert Edsel | Remember Us, American Sacrifice, Dutch Freedom, and a Forever Promise Forged in World War II
Join Michael in his conversation speaking with Robert Edsel about his new book Remember Us, American Sacrifice, Dutch Freedom, and a Forever Promise Forged in World War II which follows twelve main characters over a six-year span from 1940-1946 in war-torn Maastricht, Netherlands.Robert M. Edsel is the New York Times bestselling author of four non-fiction books including The Monuments Men which se
National Cancer Survivors Day | Ali Rogin, author of Beat Breast Cancer Like A Boss, and Dr. Felice Gersh
In this special edition honoring National Cancer Survivors Day, join me in this reissue of my interview journalist Ali Rogin, author of Beat Breast Cancer Like A Boss, and Dr. Felice Gersh, integrative medicine physician, women's health advocate and author.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Mary Annette Pember | Medicine River, A Story of Survival and the Legacy of Indian Boarding Schools
Join Michael in his conversation with Mary Annette Pember about her new book Medicine River, A Story of Survival and the Legacy of Indian Boarding Schools which is a deeply personal account of Native American boarding schools in the United States, and the legacy of abuse wrought by them on her own family and Native culture and life.Mary is a citizen of the Red Cliff Band of the Wisconsin Ojibwe. S
Daniel James Brown | Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II
Join Michael Zeldin for this timely conversation of anti-Asian racism with Daniel James Brown as they discuss his book, Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II: a compelling saga of patriotism, highlighting the contributions and sacrifices that Japanese Americans and their families made for the sake of the country and the world. Guest Daniel James Brown I grew
Miracles and Wonder, The Historical Mystery of Jesus by Elaine Pagels
Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Elaine Pagels about her new book Miracles and Wonder, The Historical Mystery of Jesus which explores the life and the enduring legacy of Jesus to attract and inspire.Professor Pagels is the Harrington Spear Paine Foundation of Religion at Princeton University. She is the author of the Gnostic Gospels which won both the National Book Award and the Nat
Rossana D'Antonio | 26 Seconds: Grief and Blame in the Aftermath of Losing My Brother in a Plane Crash
Join Michael in his discussion with Rossana D’Antonio about her new book, 26 Seconds, Grief, Blame in the Aftermath of Losing My Brother in a Plane Crash, which tells the harrowing story of the crash of TACA airlines flight 390 in Honduras, which was piloted by her brother.Rosanna is a licensed engineer with expertise in infrastructure design and emergency management. She is a Fellow with the Amer
Reflecting on Democracy with Heather Cox Richardson,
Join Michael in his discussion with Heather Cox Richardson about where we have come since the publication of her book Democracy Awakening in 2023.Heather Cox Richardson is a professor of history at Boston College and an expert on American and political history. She is the author of a widely read Substack newsletter, Letters from an American which synthesizes history and modern political issues. Th
First Lady of Laughs | Grace Kessler Overbeke
Join Michael in his conversation with Grace Kessler Overbeke about her new book, First Lady of Laughs, The Forgotten Story of Jean Carroll, America’s First Jewish Woman Stand-up Comedian which tell the story of Jean Carroll, the first Jewish woman to become a star in the field we now call stand-up comedy.Grace Kessler Overbeke is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Theatre at Columbia Coll
Murder the Truth | David Enrich
Join Michael in his discussion with David Enrich about his new book Murder the Truth, Fear, The First Amendment, and a Secret Campaign to Protect the Powerful, which details an ongoing assault from the right on New York Times v. Sullivan.David is the business investigations editor for The New York Times and the bestselling author of Dark Towers among other books. He is the winner of numerous journ
Life in Three Dimensions: How Curiosity, Exploration, and Experience Make a Fuller, Better Life | Shigehiro Oishi, PhD
Join Michael in his conversation with Shigehiro Oishi about his new book Life in Three Dimensions, How Curiosity, Exploration, and Experience Make for a Fuller, Better, Life which offers insight into the question of what makes for a good life.Shige is the Marshall Field IV Professor of Psychology at the University of Chicago. He is one of the foremost authorities on happiness, meaning, and culture
Randy Blythe | Just Beyond The Light, Making Peace with the Wars Inside our Head
Join Michael in his conversation with Randy Blythe the frontman for the Lamb of God heavy metal band about his new memoir Just Beyond The Light, Making Peace with the Wars Inside our Head.Randy is a writer, photographer, actor, and frontman for the heavy metal band Lamb of God. This is his second book. He lives in Richmond, VA when he is not on the road touring.Advertising Inquiries: https://redci
Making the Best of What's Left | Judith Viorst
Legendary author Judith Viorst joins Michael to talk about her latest book, Making the Best of What's Left, When We're Too Old to Get the Chairs Reupholstered, in which she writes about the late life meaning of wisdom, happiness, second chances, and being home. Judith is the author of the beloved Alexander and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day, the Lulu books, including Lulu and t
Locker Room Talk | Melissa Ludtke
Join Michael in his conversation with Melissa Ludtke about her new book Locker Room Talk, A Woman’s Struggle To Get Inside which chronicles her years long effort to get major league baseball to provide her and other women sports reporters with equal access to the NY Yankees locker room so she could do her job as a baseball reporter for Sports Illustrated.Melissa was a reporter for Sports Illustrat
Jeffrey Toobin | The Pardon: Nixon, Ford and the Politics of Presidential Mercy
Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Jeffrey Toobin about his new book, The Pardon: The Politics of Presidential Mercy, which explores the most controversial pardon in American history—Gerald Ford’s pardon of Richard Nixon—and its profound implications for our current political situation. Jeffrey is a longtime CNN Legal Analyst, author of ten books including, Homegrown: Timothy McVeigh and
Don Lemon | I Once Was Lost, My Search for God in America
Join Michael in his conversation with Don Lemon about his new book I Once Was Lost, My Search for God in America which tells his personal journey as a person of deep religious faith but also serves as a warning about the hijacking of religion by the religious right and its implications for American Democracy.Don Lemon is an award winning journalist who has spent three decades on local and nation
New Prize for These Eyes, The Rise of America’s Second Civil Rights Movement | Juan Williams
Join Michael in his conversation with Juan Williams about his new book New Prize for These Eyes, The Rise of America’s Second Civil Rights Movement which traces the rise of the second civil rights movement beginning with then Illinois State Senator Barack Obama’s 2004 keynoteaddress to the Democratic National Convention. It is a perfect primer for understanding the Trump 2.0 attacks on the movemen
Supercommunicators, How To Unlock the Secret Language of Connection by Charles Duhigg
Join Michael in his conversation with Charles Duhigg about his book Supercommunicators, How To Unlock the Secret Language of Connection which is a fascinating exploration of what makes conversations work, and how we can all learn to be supercommunicators at work and in life. It is especially interesting for those who are dating.Charles is an American journalist and non-fiction author. He was a rep
Revisiting | Hello Darkness, My Old Friend Sandy Greenberg
Join Michael as we revisit his conversation with Sandy Greenberg as they discuss his memoir, Hello Darkness, My Old Friend, How Daring Dreams and Unyielding Friendship Turned One Man’s Blindness Into An Extraordinary Vision For Life which recounts how he was blinded at age 19 and, against all odds, and with the help of Art Garfunkel, Sandy graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Columbia University, was a M
Savings and Trust the Rise and Betrayal of the Freedmen's Bank | Professor Justene Hill Edwards
Join Michael in his discussion with Professor Justene Hill Edwards about her powerful new book, Savings and Trust the Rise and Betrayal of the Freedmen's Bank. Created after the Civil War, The Freedmen’s Bank was where tens of thousands of formerly enslaved people placed their savings only to have them stolen by corrupt white bankers. Savings and Trust | Justene Hill Edwards | W. W. Norton &am
Talkin’ Greenwich Village: The Heady Rise and Slow Fall of America’s Bohemian Music Capital | David Browne
Join Michael in his conversation with senior Rolling Stone music writer David Browne about his new book Talkin’ Greenwich Village: The Heady Rise and Slow Fall of America’s Bohemian Music Capital which traces the history of the folk, rock, and blues music scene in the West Village from 1957 through the end of the 1980s.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://r
Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr. Discusses America at a Crossroads
Join Michael in his discussion with Eddie Glaude Jr. to discuss the crossroads at which America finds itself and his prescription for action.Professor Glaude is the James S. McDonnell Distinguished University Professor of African American Studies at Princeton University and a MSNBC political commentator. He is the author of numerous award-winning books; including: Begin Again: James Baldwin's
Skies of Thunder | Caroline Alexander
Join Michael in his conversation with Caroline Alexander about her new book Skies of Thunder: The Deadly World War II Mission Over the Roof of the World which is a breathtaking account of combat and survival in one of the most brutally challenging and rarely examined campaigns of World War II in the China, Burma, India theater of war.Caroline is the author of numerous bestselling books of non-fict
An Ideal For Living- A Celebration of the EP (Extended Play) BOOK – by Corey du Browa & friends
Join Michael in his conversation with Corey du Browa about his fun book An Ideal For Living, A Celebration of the EP—Extended Play which chronicles the history of the extended play record and offers Corey’s selection of the top EP by decade and of all time.Corey duBrowa - https://x.com/coreyduBurson - https://x.com/bursonglobalAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: h
Saving Grace with Kirsten Powers
Saving Grace: Speak Your Truth, Stay Centered, Learn to Coexist with People Who Drive You Nuts. Saving Grace offers a compelling prescription for navigating the times in which we find ourselves. Grace, Kirsten compellingly, argues is what makes human coexistence possible.Guest Kirsten PowersKirsten Powers is a New York Times bestselling author, USA Today columnist and CNN senior political analyst
Lydia Abarca Mitchell, One of The Swans of Harlem
Join Michael in his discussion with Lydia Abarca Mitchell in part two of our discussion of The Swans of Harlem which tells the story of the creation of the Dance Theater of Harlem and their five original dancers.Lydia was the first principal ballerina for the Dance Theater of Harlem.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
The Swans of Harlem | Karen Valby
Join Michael in his conversation with Karen Valby about her new book The Swans of Harlem:Five Black Ballerinas, Fifty Years of Sisterhood, and their Reclamation of a Groundbreaking History which tells the story of the five original ballerinas in the Dance Theater of Harlem.This is Karen’s second book. She is a frequent contributor to Vanity Fair, and her writing has appeared in, among other places
Historian, Douglas Brinkley on Trump, Biden, America, and more
Douglas Brinkley, Rice University Professor of Humanities and History and CNN Presidential historian, joins host Michael Zeldin to discuss how history will assess the Trump presidency, Trumpism, and this period of American historyDouglas Brinkley’s previous conversation with Michaelhttps://redcircle.com/shows/9628320e-8ac7-43bc-b394-79d0ca7fc4d7/episodes/e2c0f018-e24b-4ea0-82ad-d465eab19917Adverti
Ronald K. L. Collins | Tragedy on Trial, The Story of the Infamous Emmett Till Murder Trial
Tragedy on Trial, The Story of the Infamous Emmett Till Murder Trial, which reveals as never before the entire and shocking story of the 1955 trial of Emmett Till’s murderers.Based on extensive research, and accompanied by photos of the trial Collins brings the story alive, revealing all its manipulations of justice.https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Trial-Infamous-Emmett-Murder/dp/1531027490Advertisi
Wright Thompson | The Barn
Michael is speaking with Wright Thompson about his new book, The Barn The Secret History of a Murder in Mississippi which is a revelatory account of the murder of Emmett Till.https://www.instagram.com/wrightthompsonbooks/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Eden Undone by Abbott Kahler
Abbott Kaler’s new book Eden Undone, a true story of sex, murder, and utopia at the dawn of World War II, explores the universal and timeless desire to seek utopia by three sets of exiles to the Galapagos Islands. Abbott is the author of four New York Times bestselling works of narrative nonfiction. She is a native of Philadelphia, where she has spent six years as a journalist covering crime, advo
The Boys of Riverside: A Deaf Football Team and a Quest for Glory by Thomas Fuller
Michael’s guest is Thomas Fuller. He’s here to talk about his inspirational new book, The Boys of Riverside, A Deaf Football Team and the Quest for Glory, which tells the story of the California school for the Deaf, Riverside and its pursuit of a football championship in California.The Boys of Riverside: A Deaf Football Team and a Quest for Glory: 978038554
The Wealth of Shadows, Money is a Dangerous Weapon by Graham Moore
Join Michael in his conversation with Graham Moore about his new book of historical fiction entitled The Wealth of Shadows, Money is a Dangerous Weapon in which he tells the story of a group of US Treasury Department officials and their efforts to bring down Nazi Germany through economic warfare. Graham is a New York Times-bestselling novelist and Academy Award-winning filmmaker.His novels — The W
Dana Bash | America’s Deadliest Election the Cautionary Tale of the Most Violent Election in American History
Join Michael in his conversation with Dana Bash about her important new book America’s Deadliest Election the Cautionary Tale of the Most Violent Election in American History which tells the story of the 1872 Louisiana Governor’s race and the lessons it holds for the present.From CNN’s Chief Political Correspondent Dana Bash, the fast-paced story of the extraordinary election that led to hundreds
Fight: How Gen Z Is Channeling Their Fear and Passion to Save America by John Della Volpe
Join Michael in his conversation with John Della Volpe the Director of Polling in the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School about his book Fight, How Gen Z is Channeling their Fear and Passion to Save America as well as the results of his September 2024 Harvard YouthPoll.Fight, has been called “the definitive account of America’s next great generation,” and provides an in depth explo
It. Goes. So. Fast.: The Year of No Do-Overs with Mary Louise Kelly
Mary Louise Kelly joins Michael to talk about her book,It. Goes. So. Fast.: The Year of No Do-Overs.In it she writes about the dual pressures that of the work life balance in an honest, funny, revelatory, and immensely relatable way. Mary Louise has been reporting for National Public Radio for nearly two decades and is now the co host of All Things Consid
A New Age of Reason by Larry Weber
Join Michael in his conversation with Larry Weber about his new book The New Age of Reason, Harnessing the Power of Tech for Good which posits that we are in the midst of a new wave of technology—one that’s ushering our world to an entirely new era for the good.Larry Weber is a successful entrepreneur, thought leader, author, and founder of several global marketing companies. Larry is a globally-r
Reinventing the Wheel: Hard Roads Can Lead to Beautiful Places by Patricia Broderick
Join Michael in his conversation with Judge Patricia Broderick about her new book Reinventing the Wheel, Hard Roads Can Lead To Beautiful Places which chronicles her life’s story from a life-altering car crash at age seventeen to her judgeship on the Superior Court of the District ofColumbia.Reinventing the Wheel: Hard Roads Can Lead to Beautiful Places: Broderick, Patricia AAdvertising Inquiries:
Small Acts of Courage by Ali Velshi
Join Michael in his conversation with Ali Velshi about his new book Small Acts of Courage, A Legacy of Endurance and the Fight for Democracy which tells the 125 years of his family’s history as advocates for social justice as a living, breathing experience—a way of life more than an ideology.Small acts of courage matter. Sometimes, they change the world. Our history books are filled with the stori
The Highest Calling, Conversations on the American Presidency by David Rubenstein
Join Michael in his conversation with David Rubenstein about his new book The Highest Calling, Conversations on the American Presidency which chronicles the journeys of the presidents who have envisioned America as it now exists, what they envision for its future, and their legacy on the world stage.For years, bestselling author David M. Rubenstein has distilled the contours of American democracy
Autocracy, Inc. by Anne Applebaum
Join Michael in his conversation with Anne Applebaum about her new book Autocracy, Inc which tells an alarming account of how autocracies work together to undermine the democratic world, and how we should organize to defeat them.We think we know what an autocratic state looks like: There is an all-powerful leader at the top. He controls the police. The police threaten the people with violence. The
The Art Thief: Revisited - A Labor Day Encore with Michael Finkel
This Labor Day weekend, That Said revisits an intriguing conversation with Michael Finkel about his book The Art Thief. The book chronicles the extraordinary life of Stephen Breitweiser, the most prolific art thief in history, and has recently climbed the bestseller lists of both the New York Times and Washington Post with its paperback release.This interview is being re-released for two compellin
Revisiting: "Hearts Touched with Fire, How Great Leaders are Made" with David Gergen
Join Michael in his discussion with David Gergen about his book, Hearts Touched with Fire, How Great Leaders are Made as they explore the fundamental attributes necessary to become a leader and the key leadership lessons David has stockpiled from his half-century of public service.David Gergenhttps://twitter.com/David_Gergenhttps://www.david-gergen.com/https://www.commpro.biz/news/a-conversation-w
Revisiting Political Convention Coverage with Heather Hendershot, Author, When the News Broke: Chicago 1968 and the Polarizing of America
Join Michael in his updated discussion with historian Heather Hendershot in a discussion of her book When the News Broke: Chicago 1968 and the Polarizing of America, which revisits the TV coverage of the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago; a pivotal moment in American history when the notion of a liberal biased media became mainstreamed and nationalized.This discussion will also focus
Update on the Case for Universal Voting with E.J. Dionne, Jr. and Miles Rapoport
Join Michael in his updated discussion with E.J. Dionne, Jr. and Miles Rapoport about their new book 100% Democracy, The Case for Universal Voting, which argues that mandatory participation in our electoral system should be the cornerstone of our Democracy. Simply put, the authors make a compelling argument that it is time for the United States to recognize voting as both a fundamental civil right
Revisiting John Dean’s Take on Trump’s Authoritarian Grip
This week we will re-release our February 2021 conversation with John Dean about his book Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers.Authoritarian Nightmare was the first book to take a deep dive into the psychology of Trump’s voter base in an effort to answer such questions as: Why does his rhetoric continue to appeal to them, while his actions are often contrary to their economic, health a
"The Bishop and the Butterfly" by Michael Wolraich
Join Michael in his conversation with Michael Wolraich about his new book The Bishop and the Butterfly, Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age which tells the gripping story of the rise and fall of the New York Tammany Hall political machine intertwined with a murder-mystery that set everything in motion.Her body lay in the undergrowth beside a road that snaked through Bronx’s Van Cortlandt
"The Situation Room" by George Stephanopoulos with Lisa Dickey
Join Michael in his conversation with George Stephanopoulos about his new book The Situation Room, The Inside Story of Presidents in Crisis which recounts the crises and the decisions that shaped the course of history from its creation in 1961 through to today. No room better defines American power and its role in the world than the White House Situation Room. And yet, none is more shrouded in sec
A Conversation with Barbara McQuade, author, Attack from Within How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America
Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Barbara McQuade about her new book Attack from Within, How Disinformation is Sabotaging America which addresses the issue of how disinformation is polarizing American society and threatening the foundations of our democracy.We are strategically being pushed apart by disinformation—the deliberate spreading of lies disguised as truth—and it comes at us
A Conversation with Eddie Glaude, Jr., author, We Are The Leaders We Have Been Looking
Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Eddie Glaude Jr. about his new book, We Are The Leaders We Have Been Looking For which makes the case that the hard work of becoming a better person should be a critical feature of American democracy. Through virtuoso interpretations of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and Ella Baker, Glaude shows how we have the power to be the heroes that our de
A Conversation with conversation with Robin Bernstein, author, Freeman’s Challenge, The Murder That Shook America’s Original Prison for Profit
Join Michael in his conversation with Robin Bernstein about her new book, Freeman’s Challenge, The Murder That Shook America’s Original Prison for Profit, which tells a gripping story of murder, greed, race, and the true origins of prisons for profit in Auburn, NY decades before the Civil War.Robin Bernstein is a cultural historian who specializes in U.S. racial formation from the nineteenth centu
