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The NAVigator

The NAVigator

Active Investment Company Alliance 300 Episodes Aug 21, 2026

The NAVigator, from the Active Investment Company Alliance (AICA), covers all-weather investing and active management through closed-end funds (CEFs) and business-development companies (BDCs). The podcast aims to help investors and advisors explore tactical use of these securities for financial success. It provides regular updates on strategies for investing in CEFs and BDCs.

Episodes

How rising Treasury rates (and relief) impact closed-end investors
How rising Treasury rates (and relief) impact closed-end investors Aug 21, 2026 13:20 Treasury rates hit their highest level in nearly 20 years this week; in response, the Treasury announced it was doubling its long-end buyback capacity. John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, discusses what it all means for fixed-income markets and how it is impacting closed-end funds and their investors. The two actions at the center of the action call for a barbell approach, says Scott, who
John Cole Scott breaks down recent media recommendations on CEFs
John Cole Scott breaks down recent media recommendations on CEFs Aug 14, 2026 13:24 When closed-end funds catch mentions in the mainstream media, the recommendations often focus on yield without digging deeper. In this episode of The NAVigator, John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, looks at some recent closed-end fund recommendations from articles on Forbes and Seeking Alpha, and breaks down how those funds do through the "trifecta analysis" his firm uses to select funds, p
How the market's recent rally created 'a good widening' of closed-end discounts
How the market's recent rally created 'a good widening' of closed-end discounts Aug 7, 2026 14:17 Discount-capture investor Rob Shaker, Portfolio Manager at Shaker Financial Services, says that while closed-end fund discounts have widened through a strong season of earnings and a market returning to flirt with new highs, much of that action has been "good widenings," where a fund's net asset value goes up more than the price of the closed-end fund itself. With the market "snapping around" with
Nuveen's Caraher on why senior loans are in a sweet spot now
Nuveen's Caraher on why senior loans are in a sweet spot now Jul 31, 2026 16:14 Scott Caraher, Head of Senior Loans at Nuveen, says that the higher-for-longer interest rate environment has created "one of the most interesting and dynamic times" he has seen for senior loans in his 25-year career. Caraher, who manages Nuveen Floating Rate Income in both its closed-end and open-end forms, says that because senior loans don't face interest-rate risk, they are a powerful play in a
John Cole Scott on Q2 and the rest of '26 for closed-end funds, BDCs
John Cole Scott on Q2 and the rest of '26 for closed-end funds, BDCs Jul 24, 2026 15:54 John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, provides takeaways from the second quarter for closed-end funds and business-development companies, noting that the trend was for investors to make most of their money on net asset values rather than narrowing discounts, which creates potential for a strong second half of 2026 if there is an uptick in investor sentiment. Scott, the chairman of the Active
XA's DiBernardo on why worried investors should consider covered calls now
XA's DiBernardo on why worried investors should consider covered calls now Jul 17, 2026 14:26 Ray DiBernardo, Portfolio Manager for the XAI Madison Equity Premium Income fund, says he's concerned about the market's valuation levels — noting that it "has been expensive for quite some time" — and while he is not expecting "dark clouds and a horrible environment," there's more downside risk, which could lead to market compression that puts covered-call strategies back into the spotlight as a
Gold fund manager Merk on ASA's fight with activist investors
Gold fund manager Merk on ASA's fight with activist investors Jul 10, 2026 16:50 Axel Merk, President and Chief Investment Officer at Merk Investments, discusses Saba Capital's activist campaign that got him ousted as portfolio manager and president of ASA Gold and Precious Metals Ltd., a closed-end fund that was up nearly 200% last year but that still was branded with the label of being a "poor performer." Merk, who took over the closed end fund in 2016 and helped to nearly q
Gabelli's Dreyer on why sports and value picks are an antidote to A.I. obsession
Gabelli's Dreyer on why sports and value picks are an antidote to A.I. obsession Jul 2, 2026 13:49 Kevin Dreyer, Co-Chief Investment Officer for value at Gabelli Asset Management, says that there are plenty of values left in a market that has returned to record levels, particularly when valuing stocks based on "what an informed industrialist or buyer would pay to buy the whole business." Dreyer, part of the team running Gabelli Equity Trust and some of the firm's other closed-end funds, says th
CEF Data's Scott on the takeaways from Dechert's Private Credit Summit
CEF Data's Scott on the takeaways from Dechert's Private Credit Summit Jun 26, 2026 13:30 John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, attended the Private Credit Summit hosted this week in New York City by Dechert LLP, and came away with a sense that private-credit markets have not yet gotten to the overheated levels that could turn investor fears of a blow-up into a financial reality. Scott, also the chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, discusses "stress tests" that Fit
Landmark Supreme Court decision is a game-changer for investor activism
Landmark Supreme Court decision is a game-changer for investor activism Jun 18, 2026 16:53 Ken Burdon, Partner in the registered fund practice at Simpson Thacher & Bartlett, discusses the Supreme Court's recent ruling against activist investor Saba Capital, a decision that could have a chilling effect on shareholder activism in the future. Burdon says the decision removes a key path based on the Investment Company Act of 1940 that activists took in pursuing cases over fund fees and stru
In a tight-spread, higher-for-longer rate market, discounts matter again
In a tight-spread, higher-for-longer rate market, discounts matter again Jun 12, 2026 14:46 John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, says that index discounts are wide when compared to their three-year history, which makes it important for investors to find names where wide discounts are supported by improving fundamentals. Scott, who also is chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, says that both the national muni CEF index and the taxable bond CEF index have seen wider di
Bluerock's Baffico says HALO trades will benefit from Private Credit Redemptions
Bluerock's Baffico says HALO trades will benefit from Private Credit Redemptions Jun 5, 2026 14:38 Steve Baffico, Executive Vice President and head of listed products at Bluerock, which runs the Bluerock Private Real Estate fund, expects the real estate market to benefit as money moves from private credit , business-development companies and direct-lending strategies in pursuit of something with "hard assets and low obsolescence." That HALO trade should drive growth moving forward; Baffico disc

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