Things Bakers Know: The King Arthur Baking Podcast
Join King Arthur's Jessica Battilana and David Tamarkin as they explore every corner of the world of baking. Each episode dives deep into a different baked good — its history and lore, tips and tricks, trends and takes — and they'll always leave time to answer baking questions from listeners. Along the way they chat with the best bakers in America to get their expert advice.
Episodes
Apple Showdown: Pie vs. Cake, featuring Erin McDowell
It’s fall, which means it’s time to talk about baking with apples! David and Jessica kick off the show by talking about apple pie versus apple cake, then dig into the best apples for baking. Unsurprisingly, they have a lot of opinions! Then David sits down with one of the best all-around bakers in the country and the undisputed pie queen, Erin Jeanne McDowell, to get her top tips for apple baking
In Pursuit of the Ultimate Chocolate Cake, with Helen Goh
We’re back with a brand-new season, and we’re celebrating with — what else? — cake! Specifically, the best chocolate cake in the world, as made by this episode’s guest, James Beard award-winning cookbook author Helen Goh. Helen joins the show to talk about the recipe the New York Times named the “World’s Best Chocolate Cake” (spoiler alert: her family hates it) and the power of baking to help us
Coming Soon - Season Four of Things Bakers Know: The King Arthur Baking Podcast
Things Bakers Know, the official podcast from King Arthur Baking Company, is back with a ten episode fourth season — starting October 5th! Join King Arthur’s Jessica Battilana and David Tamarkin as they explore every corner of the baking world. Each episode dives deep into a different baked good — its history and lore, tips and tricks, trends and takes — and they'll always leave time to answe
Exclusive: Chad Robertson Talks About His New Brooklyn Bakery
A new Chad Robertson venture is always a big deal, and we have all the details. In May, Jessica talked to the Tartine co-founder for our episode all about his bread and the enormous influence it has had on baking around the world. During that conversation, Chad talked at length about his forthcoming bakery and cafe in Brooklyn, Altbau. But those details weren’t quite ready for prime time when the
The Bagel Boom, featuring Carlos Perez of Boil & Bake
It’s bagel week on the show, and this time, David is bringing all the opinions. Together, he and Jessica discuss bagels in New York and beyond, including the burgeoning world of California-style bagels and the different styles that abound. Then, Southern California bagel maker Carlos Perez joins the show to share his perspective on West Coast bagels. Next, Jessica and David dive into your bagel-b
This Loaf Changed American Bread, with Chad Robertson
Today, we’re dedicating a whole episode to a single loaf of bread. But not just any bread: the loaf from San Francisco’s Tartine bakery, which kicked off a sourdough revolution in the States. David and Jessica start the show by unpacking just what made Tartine and its bread so influential; together, they dig into the ways this loaf's impact continues to resonate today, plus their own persona
Diving Deep on Doughnuts, with Fany Gerson
Heat up your fry oil — today, we’re talking doughnuts! After sharing a slightly traumatic, mostly doughnut-filled childhood story with David, Jessica talks to Fany Gerson of Fan Fan Doughnuts in New York. They discuss Fany’s relationship to doughnuts, her biggest sources of inspiration, and the enduring power of this timeless treat. Then, Jessica and David jump into your listener questions, inclu
We're in Our Croissant Era, with the Baking School's Elisabeth Berthasavage
With their shattering layers and honeycomb interior, croissants are perhaps the ultimate pastry achievement. And they’ve never been hotter than right now. In this episode, David and Jessica unpack what makes croissants so special, including the intricacies of the lamination process, the irresistible appeal of a perfect pastry, and the “croissant theory” that powers many patisseries. They are then
Talking Tortillas, with Pati Jinich
What can’t tortillas do? Whether they’re made with corn or wheat, masa or masa harina, homemade tortillas are a thing of beauty. No one knows that better than today’s guest, Pati Jinich. One of the foremost experts on Mexican cuisine, Pati has traveled all over Mexico and the US to eat tortillas. She shares her vast knowledge of these special flatbreads, as well as her top tips for making them at
Fudgy vs. Cakey: A Deep Dive on Brownies with David Lebovitz
Young or old, everyone loves a brownie. But we all have our own preferences: fudgy or chewy, edge piece or center. The options are endless! Today, we’re discussing all the ways you can make your brownies, from the ingredients you choose to the method you make them with. We also invite one of our favorite bakers, David Lebovitz, to share his thoughts on brownies, including his experience as an Ame
Vanilla: Boring or the Best? with Claire Saffitz
We think vanilla has gotten a bad reputation, so we’re here to correct the record: Vanilla is anything but boring. To prove our point, we invited one of the country’s biggest vanilla fans (and all-around star baker) Claire Saffitz to come on the pod and argue why we should all be giving vanilla its due. Then we answer your baking questions in Ask the Bakers, covering everything from how to substi
New York Pizza: the Iconic Slice, with Wylie Dufresne
While we love all styles of pizza, there’s a special place in our hearts for New York pizza — and not just because David lives in its home city! New York pizza is one of the most iconic dishes in America, and this episode shines a spotlight on the unique history and culture behind each slice. And as a special treat, we have one of the most notable people making New York pizza today on the show: t
Everyone Loves Focaccia, featuring Samin Nosrat
With its fluffy crumb, dimply dough, and endless spins, focaccia has stolen the heart of countless bakers — including us. So we decided to dedicate a whole episode to it. Jessica and David dissect the current focaccia moment and how this simple bread has evolved from its Italian origins to something truly showstopping. Then Samin Nosrat stops by the show to share the story behind the viral salt-b
Cracking the Cheesecake Code, featuring Carla Hall
We’re back, and we’re talking cheesecake! Jessica and David dive into a bit of the history behind this iconic dessert before Jessica sits down with TV host and cookbook author Carla Hall to chat all things cheesecake, including Carla’s best tips and tricks. Then, they answer your biggest cheesecake questions, covering everything from water baths to springform pans. Jessica delivers her Jess-opinio
Coming Soon - Season Three of Things Bakers Know: The King Arthur Baking Podcast
Things Bakers Know, the official podcast from King Arthur Baking Company, is back with a ten episode second season — starting March 23rd! Join King Arthur’s Jessica Battilana and David Tamarkin as they explore every corner of the baking world. Each episode dives deep into a different baked good — its history and lore, tips and tricks, trends and takes — and they'll always leave time to answer
Reinventing Pizza for 2026
We’ve officially unveiled our 2026 Recipe of the Year, and we couldn’t be more excited to share it with you. Announcing: Flaky Puff Crust Pizza! In this episode, David and Jessica are joined by two of our Test Kitchen stars and the creators of this exceptional recipe, Sarah Jampel and Molly Marzalek-Kelly. They discuss how and why they landed on pizza as this year’s Recipe of the Year, the biggest
Celebrating Holiday Cookies with Dan Pelosi
Celebrating Holiday Cookies with Dan Pelosi ‘Tis the season to bake as many cookies as you can! We kick off the show by unveiling King Arthur’s 2025 holiday cookie lineup before being joined by Dan Pelosi, a baker known for his annual holiday cookie party. He chats with Jessica about the keys to successfully throwing a cookie party, including his holiday cookie philosophy, then David and Jessica
Our Holiday Baking Q&A Spectacular!
We have a very special episode today. Ahead of the busiest baking season of the year, we’ve got an entire show dedicated to answering your biggest holiday baking questions! And we’ve invited some friends to help us. We’ve assembled an all-star collection of our King Arthur colleagues, including Molly Marzalek-Kelly and Sarah Jampel from our Test Kitchen, Amber Eisler from our Baking School, Martin
It's Thanksgiving Pie Time, featuring Stacey Mei Yan Fong
It’s high time for pie, and we couldn’t be more excited! David and Jessica kick off the show by sharing some of their best pie tips and tricks, before bringing in a real pie expert — Stacey Mei Yan Fong, author of the award-winning cookbook 50 Pies, 50 States — to offer her advice. We’ve got some great Thanksgiving pie questions to answer, from the best way to prebake your crust to advice for pre
Chocolate, Explained, featuring Amy Guittard
Today, we’re talking about one of the world’s perfect foods: chocolate. And who better to join us than Amy Guittard of Guittard Chocolate? For her, chocolate literally runs in the family. She explains everything from how chocolate is made to what the percentages on the bag really mean. Then David and Jessica answer this week’s listener questions, sharing their tips for better brownies and choosin
Great Gluten-Free Bread is Possible! featuring Aran Goyoaga
We’re going gluten-free this week and talking about how to make the best gluten-free bread — because we believe everyone deserves great bread. Aran Goyoaga, author of the stunning new book The Art of Gluten-Free Bread, joins us to talk about her approach to gluten-free bread baking, including some of her favorite flours and tips and tricks. We break down the dizzying world of gluten-free flours,
Baking with Kids: Fun or Chaos? featuring Samantha Seneviratne
Give kids a baked good, and you’ve fed them for a day. Teach kids to bake, and well ... you know. We’ve been thinking a lot about baking with kids, because we’ve been hard at work writing a brand-new kids baking cookbook! And despite the mess and the chaos, we think it’s all worth it. So does cookbook author Samantha Seneviratne, who joins the show to chat with Jessica about baking with her adora
What Even is a Fall Bake? featuring Rick Martínez
It’s the best baking season of the year! So we’re celebrating all things fall baking on today’s episode. First up, producer Rossi Anastopoulo and King Arthur editor Tatiana Bautista join David and Jessica to discuss our new list of the 49 Best Fall Recipes, Ranked. To no one’s surprise, there are a lot of opinions all around! Then cookbook author Rick Martínez stops by to dive deep into Pan de Mu
The Best of Chinatown Bakeries with Kristina Cho
We’re talking about one of our favorite genres of baking today: the bakes of Chinatown. From bolo bao to dan tat, we can’t get enough of the gorgeous goods lining the bakery cases of Chinatowns across the US. So of course, we had to have cookbook author Kristina Cho on the show to share more about the history of these bakeries, their place in Chinese American communities, and her tips for making
Talking All Things Butter, featuring Dorie Greenspan
We’re back, and we’re talking all about butter! Legendary baker Dorie Greenspan joins the show to share her thoughts on all things butter, plus some stories that will make you want to move to France immediately. David and Jessica dive deep into baker Nicole Rucker’s Cold Butter Method (CBM) and their tips for baking better with butter, before answering your questions, including their thoughts on
Coming Soon - Season Two of Things Bakers Know: The King Arthur Baking Podcast
Things Bakers Know, the official podcast from King Arthur Baking Company, is back with a ten episode second season — starting September 29th! Join King Arthur’s Jessica Battilana and David Tamarkin as they explore every corner of the baking world. Each episode dives deep into a different baked good — its history and lore, tips and tricks, trends and takes — and they'll always leave time to an
History in the Baking: Talking Biscuits with Deb Freeman
We’re closing out our first season with a complex, fascinating, and all-around delicious baked good: biscuits! Historian and food anthropologist Deb Freeman is here to teach us about biscuits’ riveting history, discussing their early role in American baking and the way Black bakers’ skill and knowledge have contributed to where biscuits are today. Then, Jessica and David answer your biscuit bakin
It's Time to Talk Sourdough, featuring Amber Eisler
It’s finally time. Today, we’re discussing a topic that produces a lot of confusion, passion, and toast: sourdough. King Arthur’s very own Director of Baking Education Amber Eisler is here to share her considerable expertise. Amber baked in our bakery for five years and has taught at the Baking School for over 15 years, so needless to say, she knows her stuff. First, she and David chat about some
All About Birthday Cake, featuring Cheryl Day and Bronwen Wyatt
Today it’s everybody’s birthday, because we’re talking about birthday cakes with two Southern baking superstars. We’re thrilled to have both Cheryl Day, award-winning cookbook author and former owner of Savannah’s famed Back in the Day Bakery, and Bronwen Wyatt, of Bayou Saint Cakes in New Orleans, join to share their top cake secrets and best tips for beginner birthday cake bakers. In Ask the Ba
A Deep Dive Into Pizza, featuring Dan Richer
Today is all about one of our favorite foods: pizza! Best-selling cookbook author and one of America’s foremost pizza experts Dan Richer stops by the show to share his tips on baking your best pizza at home. Learn about his ideal home oven set up and his tips for nailing your bake. Then listen to David and Jessica answer your biggest pizza questions, from the best way to get a crispy crust to Jes
Perfecting Chocolate Chip Cookies, featuring Zoë François
We’re kicking off our first season by talking about one of the most quintessential American bakes: chocolate chip cookies! Hosts Jessica and David are joined by best-selling cookbook author Zoë François, who talks about the extensive chocolate chip cookie testing she did for her latest book, Zoë Bakes Cookies, as well as the surprising role cookies played in her family history. Then, Jessica and
Coming Soon - Things Bakers Know: The King Arthur Baking Podcast
Introducing the official new podcast from King Arthur Baking Company, dropping April 28th! Join King Arthur’s Jessica Battilana and David Tamarkin as they explore every corner of the baking world. Each episode dives deep into a different baked good — its history and lore, tips and tricks, trends and takes — and they'll always leave time to answer baking questions from listeners. Along the way
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