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The Art of Sales with Art Sobczak

The Art of Sales with Art Sobczak

Art Sobczak, cold calling and sales trainer 334 Episodes Jun 8, 2026

Everyone sells, regardless of job title. This podcast offers authentic, conversational sales and prospecting tips without sleaze. Host Art Sobczak shares proven techniques for cold calling without the cold, helping people buy instead of pushing them. With over 30 years of experience, Art provides insights from his books, newsletters, courses, and seminars.

Episodes

331 GUEST: What 20,000 Phone Hours Taught Him About Prospecting and Sales, with Justin Michael Jun 8, 2026 48:56 Most cold call advice you see celebrated on LinkedIn has one thing in common — it starts with an apology. "You're going to hate me, but this is a cold call." "Did I catch you at a bad time?" "I'll be honest with you — this is a sales call." Justin Michael has spent 20,000 hours on the phone and written 10 books disagreeing with all of it. And in this episode, he makes the case — backed by brain
330 GUEST- Debunking the Myths of Sales with What is Actually True, According to Science and Research, with Dr. Lorenzo Bizzi May 13, 2026 52:03 What if everything you believed about sales was wrong? Art Sobczak sits down with Dr. Lorenzo Bizzi, professor at Cal State Fullerton and author of Myths Versus Science of Selling, to challenge the conventional wisdom that has dominated sales training for decades. From "always be closing" to "people buy on emotion" to "extroverts make the best salespeople" — Dr. Bizzi has spent years collecting
329 GUEST Joe Dalton- You Don't Have a Closing Problem, You Likely Have This Instead Apr 14, 2026 38:26 What if your biggest sales problem isn't closing… but everything that happens before it? In this episode, Art Sobczak sits down with sales trainer, speaker, and author Joe Dalton to break down what truly separates professionals from amateurs in sales. Joe shares how he went from "just talking to people" to mastering a proven sales process, and why he now views selling as a craft, not a transaction
328 Why Prospects Quickly Decide to Get Rid of You, and What to Say Instead to Fix That Mar 18, 2026 15:48 You know that kid in the produce aisle who has no idea where the dill is? The one who starts apologizing and wandering around while your brain checks out? That's what most prospecting calls sound like in the first 20 seconds. In this episode, Art breaks down exactly what's happening in your prospect's brain the moment they pick up the phone, why most common openers actually trigger the resistan
327 What to THINK to Avoid Saying the 26 Banned Sales Words and Phrases Jan 26, 2026 14:21 Last episode I banned 26 sales words and phrases. But the truth is… banning the words isn't the solution. Because the words aren't the problem. They're the emotional "cover" salespeople use when they don't feel confident—apologies, permission-begging, softeners, and filler phrases that are designed to make the seller feel safer. Unfortunately, they do the opposite for the buyer. In this episode, I
326 The 26 Sales Words and Phrases I'm Banning in 2026 Jan 5, 2026 31:59 Salespeople don't struggle because they lack tactics. They struggle because of the language they use—often without realizing what it reveals about how they're thinking. In this episode, Art Sobczak shares 26 sales words and phrases he's banning in 2026. Not because they sound bad—but because they quietly lower status, create resistance, and sabotage confidence before the conversation ever begins.
325 GUEST: Lee Salz: Why Discovery Calls Must Die (And What to Do Instead) Dec 1, 2025 38:03 Too many salespeople celebrate getting the meeting… and then blow it with a stiff, self-serving "discovery call" that prospects secretly dread. In this episode, Art sits down with sales differentiation strategist and bestselling author Lee Salz to rethink that critical first conversation—and turn it into a client-centric consultation that buyers actually value. Lee shares how to deliver meaningful
324 Why Most Salespeople Hear But Don't Listen—and the 2-Second Fix Nov 24, 2025 11:48   Think you're a good listener? Try this: Can you remember the exact words your last prospect used to describe their biggest problem? If not, you weren't listening—you were waiting to talk. In this episode, Art reveals the Two P's framework (Purpose and Pause) that will transform how you show up on sales calls. Learn the 2-second technique that gets prospects to reveal what they really mean, not
323 The Real Reason Sales Training Doesn't Work (And What Does) Nov 18, 2025 11:39 You know what to do. So why aren't you doing it? In this episode Art reveals why sales success isn't about knowing more—it's about BECOMING more. And why most sales training fails to create actual transformation. You'll discover: Why you revert to "permission begging" even when you know better The difference between conditioning and intention (and why conditioning always wins) Why webinars, books
322 No One Is Born a "Natural Salesperson" — Here's How You Can Become One Nov 11, 2025 09:29 Most people think great salespeople are just born with it — with confidence, charisma, the ability to say the right thing at the right time. But that's a myth. "Natural" salespeople aren't born. They're built through identity, practice, tone, repetition, and learning how to think in the moment. In this episode, Art breaks down: Why hesitation happens even when you know what to say How identit
321 The Psychology Behind "We Don't Need It" (And How to Flip It Instantly) Oct 21, 2025 08:58 Ever had someone tell you, "We don't need that"? You'll love this one. Art shares a hilarious old Century 21 commercial that nails one of the biggest sales mistakes out there — showing people what you want them to buy instead of what they actually want. Then he breaks down how to turn that around using simple, conversational questions that uncover real needs and make buyers lean in instead of tune
320 "Don't Lose Her!" (And Other Terrible Sales Advice We Tell Ourselves) Oct 6, 2025 09:56 Ever catch yourself thinking, "Don't blow this call" or "They probably won't be interested anyway"? Those little thoughts can sabotage your success before you even say "hello." In this episode, Art shares a powerful (and funny) story from the softball field that perfectly illustrates how negative suggestions, assumptions, and self-talk quietly kill sales results. You'll discover: Why your brain

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