Dumb Smart Mums
Dumb Smart Mums is a podcast hosted by Abbey Suyker-Harrison and Charlotte Kells Robertson, who discuss topics relevant to contemporary mothers. The show blends humor with evidence-based insights, covering everything from momfluencers to feminist theory. Each episode aims to explore the complexities of motherhood in an accessible and fun way.
Episodes
Don't Fight Each Other, FIGHT THE MAN! (the 'Feminism & Motherhood' Episode)
Hej hej! Welcome back, honey bees! We talk for quite a bit about bts of social media at the beginning of this episode, so scrub through to around 20 minutes if you aren't interested. Dr Kells Robertson puts on her Dr hat (it's a really silly one) to teach us about feminism and the main feminist theories that we need to know. She teaches us how feminism has been weaponised by women against
Woo Fuckin' Woo (the Life Updates, Pop Culture, Q&A Episode)
Oh hi folks, once again it was Abbey's turn to research but then she didn't and we ended up giving you a different kind of episode. BUT, she gives you some insight as to why she didn't research with her life updates. Y'all are the first to hear it, she's a bit nervous to tell the world, so be nice. Don't forget to check your voting registration if you're in Aotearoa. Yo
It's Okay, We Know Your Husband Is Great! (the Dads & Advocacy Episode)
A HUGE thank you to Little Beat First Aid for sponsoring this episode of Dumb Smart Mums. If you're looking for accessible, evidence-based, not terrifying first aid, look no further than Little Beat. Shrenika and her team are so wonderful, and we have both used Shrenika's awesome education on multiple occasions to know what to do when our kiddies have been sick. You can find their website
A Doctor and a Moment for Being HUMAN
YAY DR KELLS ROBERTSON! A HERO WALKS AMONG US. We're all human, and sometimes the world can get on top of us a bit. If you need immediate help for your mental health please call: 1737 (Need to talk?): Free call or text 1737 anytime to talk with a trained counsellor.Lifeline: Call 0800 543 354 or free text 4357 (HELP).Suicide Crisis Helpline: Call 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO) for dedicated suici
The So-Called "Economy" Has Ruined it for Everyone (the Motherhood Penalty/Having it All Myth Episode)
Join hosts Abbey & Charlotte this week as we sit down together and have a vulnerable chat about our frustrations with being working mothers, and the roadblocks we've encountered trying to "have it all" (the way we are repeatedly told we can). Apologies for the coughs and splutters, but there are only so many things we can edit around, and honestly the edit just sounds robotic if
How Do We Know the Monkeys Aren't Feeling Pain? (the Natural Birth vs Medicalisation of Birth Episode)
This episode of Dumb Smart Mums was kindly sponsored by Viva La Vulva. We could not be more grateful to VLV for sponsoring today's ep, but also for the amazing mahi and products they have! Both of our vulvas have benefitted from their beautiful products, so we stand by their range! If you or someone you know is about to have a pēpi, use code DSM at checkout for a cheeky discount! Thank you, VL
Is Breastfeeding Biology or Witchcraft? (the 'Breast is Best' Episode)
This episode was sponsored by the absolute babes at CF Creations! If you're in the market for a mirror that is kiwi-manufactured without the mark ups, they're the place. Check out their full range at their website here. Use code DSM for 10% off at check out and THANK US LATER!! xoxoWell, well, well, look who dared to show their faces on the internet again for another episode. We were very
Kylie Jenner Makes Us Feel Weird Feelings (the Celebrity Mums Episode)
This episode is proudly sponsored by The Mom Store! Go buy all the things! Thanks for your support, Mom Store team. <3 Well.. Hi there. I (Abbey) have done a terrible job at keeping the communication up with the big changes happening on this feed. So, if you don't follow me on social media and you're like "where is WDYPLT? what the heck is this?" surprise!!!! WDYPLT is dead. RIP. She was loved
SOLO-SODE! Abbey's SKINNY!
I'm down an organ and ready to paaaaarrrddddyyyyy! Today's solo-sode was born out of the boredom of being home post-surgery. Nothing like your body feeling meh, but your brain moving at one million miles an hour! New things coming soon, watch this space.. Mentioned in this ep: Kiss All the Time Disco Occasionally, Harry Styles Bookety Book Books Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash W
Kahurangi Carter (@kahucarter) on Young Motherhood, Two Under Two, Parenting as a Political Act, How Parenting Shaped Her Journey to Government, and Kids Being Their Own Person?
OH, we are so back! An honour to be back in this space for 2026, an even bigger honour for my first guest to be the gorgeous Kahurangi (Kahu) Carter (Ngāti Maniapoto, Tainui). Kahu is the Greens Party MP for Christchurch Central. Not only that, she is a mum of two. She had her first, Freddy (great name), and then 14 months later had Waiata! They are now 18 and 17. We cover so much in thi
Parenting is Political with Sophie Moskowitz feat. DR HEATHER JOHNSTON (@cradlednz)
Parenting is political - and navigating baby sleep advice is a big part of it! Dr Heather Johnston of Cradled is one of the most qualified people in Aotearoa to help us deconstruct some of the messages that have dominated the world of baby sleep for the last century - and more! Heather brings to this kōrero her years of training and experience as a medical doctor, an Internationally Board Certifie
How Elf on the Shelf and the Kardashians Stole Christmas | A HOLIDAY BONUS EPISODE WITH CHARLOTTE KELLS ROBERTSON (@phdmamanz)
Ho, ho, ho MEEEEERRY CHRISTMAS! What better way to celebrate than to reflect on motherhood, the mental load, and ways that modern motherhood has been made more difficult by a few cultural events. We'd like to thank Maintenance Phase for their beautiful format of podcast episode. We are big, big fans! If you would like to keep up with Charlotte and the cool things she's doing her instag
SOLO-SODE! Abbey's Reflections on a Year Postpartum, Birth Trauma, Recovery, Growth, One to Two, Refluxy Babies, Starting the Pod, Finding Yourself, and Juggling Balls Jokes
WELL, I'M ALREADY FEELING A PRE-EMPTIVE VULNERABILITY HANGOVER. Be kind with me. Hold me gently. I'm giving you my feelings here, look after them. I hope that this episode is one you are interested in, let me know if it is and you'd like more! If you are in the early days of parenthood, I see you, you're great, and I'm rooting for you! Take some time to be proud of yourself. We h
Lydia Tuaiti (@ifoundlydia) on Being 'Lydia', Stepping into Stepparenthood, Running for Mental Health, HG, PND, Prioritising Culture, and Actually Breathing Properly
DECEMBER! DECK THE HALLS! LISTEN TO THIS GEM OF A HUMAN BEING! Lydia Tuaiti (@ifoundlydia) is the coolest. She's fun, she's a girls girl, she is reflective, and self-aware, and all-round just the coolest. I am so honoured that she was happy to sit down with me and talk about her experience of parenthood (including stepparenthood). This is a perspective I have wanted to share on the podcast for a l
Parenting is Political with Sophie Moskowitz feat. GEORGE PARKER!!
In this Parenting is Political episode, Sophie sits down to kōrero with Dr George Parker (they/them) for a conversation about why representation and inclusion matter in healthcare and social services - for all whānau but especially for members of the LGBTQIA+ community. George talks us through their journey from midwifery, to advocacy mahi with Women's Health Action, and then into
Di McHardy (@_mamas_meals) on Resilience, Not Being Type A or B, 2 Under 2, a Postpartum Career Crisis, and the Love of Cooking
And so the tradition of having wonderful conversations with wonderful people continues! Di McHardy (who you probably already follow @_mamas_meals) is just the kindest, coolest, most easy-going lady. I will never get sick of speaking to parents who have seen the need for a new resource and created it themselves. Di has done that this year by self-publishing her cookbook 'Family Cooking'. You can se
Marama Davidson (@maramadavidson) on Being a Mum of Six, Navigating Work and Parenthood, Having Activist Parents, and Unconditional Love "Warts and All"
Nope, I cannot believe it. This simply cannot be real life. The Marama Davidson sat down on this lil old pod to speak with me about her parenting journey. As much as I want to shower Marama with praise and adoration, Marama is the first person to point out that she is as human as the rest of us. So I will suppress my natural instinct to rattle off compliments and instead opt to thank he
Sinead Corcoran (@sineadcorcoran_) on Brazilian Waxes, Red Bull Comfort Toys, and Being the St John's Tent for New Parents
PLEASE VOTE FOR US FOR LISTENER'S CHOICE AWARD AT THE NZ PODCAST AWARDS 2025!!! Click here! No intro from me today because there was no housekeeping! I'm still alive and well, don't panic! The podcast gods have blessed us because Sinead Corcoran is back for part 2 of her episode! This time she is answering episodes 2-5. If you haven't listened to part 1, head back and listen to it. Her
Parenting is Political with Sophie Moskowitz feat. EMILY WRITES!
Chef Sophie is in the kitchen and she is COOKING! Welcome to the brand new podcast segment called 'Parenting is Political'! My fantastic pal Sophie Moskowitz (of Imperfect Parents fame) has been thinking about starting a podcast for a while, but has been wrestling with how much of a time commitment it is. So we decided why not give those conversations a home on the WDYPLT feed?! Sophie has s
Sinead Corcoran (sineadcorcoran_) on IVF, HG, Elective C Sections, Love is Blind With Your Baby, Being Relentlessly Vulnerable, PND, and Being so Young and Gorgeous Everyone Thinks You're the Nanny
Did I or did I not tell you that season 2 was going to be bigger and better than ever?! I have followed and loved this lady for a good, long while, and you'll soon see that I really took the opportunity to yap. Sinead has recently released a book called It Nearly Killed Me but I Love You which I insist you read. It is so fantastic, and there were so many moments that I felt so comp
BONUS: Answering Burning Questions with Kate Zame (@katezameslt)
This season I wanted to introduce some new segments and styles of content, because this pod is a space for so much more than the main episodes (but they aren't going anywhere, don't worry, they are my lifelong love). So here is a new segment. Answering Burning Questions is a safe space where we can all come together with good faith and compassion, and ask and answer questions that w
Kate Zame (@katezameslt) on Finding Herself, Five (27) Chickens, Being an AFAB Non-Birthing Parent, the Many Ways to Create a Family, HG, Parental Preferences, and the Magic of Christmas
This episode feels like a really special one. It's one that I have been fostering for a long time, mainly because I wanted to make sure that Kate and her wife Kelly felt confident in my motivations and ensuring that they knew I was only approaching this with the most care and reverence. Kate Zame is a badass SLT, and that's how you might have come across her work (and, valid, cos her work is
BONUS: Why Do You Expert Like That? w/ Dr Morgan Edwards!
AS IF WE DIDN'T LOVE HER ENOUGH ALREADY! Everyone's fave doctor, Morgan Edwards is back to answer some listener submitted questions! As with everything Morgan does, she answered them with grace, kindness, generosity, and wisdom. Content forecast: there is mention of sexual assault in the final question, so please look after yourself. Healthy Homes Initiative information is here!
Dr Morgan Edwards on HG, Being a Health Professional Parent, Breaking Cycles, Co-Sleeping, and Ignoring Terrible Parenting Advice
Ohhhhh it feels good to be back. I'm so thrilled to be back with you all, and with Dr Morgan Edwards as my first guest, no less! I feel so honoured to have had Morgan on the pod with me. She is just an incredible wahine. I so admire her ability to stand on her ten toes about the things she believes in, even when she's copping flack for it. I really loved being able to hear more on her p
Hayden Donnell (my brother-in-law) on Bringing Instability to the Family, Hearing the Voice of Zeus, Blown Up Letterboxes, and Tantrums that Resemble Demonic Possession
Hey, heeeeey! It's the season one finale!! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR THIS LONG I LOVE YA SO DAMN MUCH! This episode is with my brother-in-law Hayden Donnell. He is the father of my sweet, sweet nephew and niece (whose voices you have all become very familiar with in my pod jingle) and our spouses are siblings. You will very quickly learn that Hayden and I have a bit of an unhi
Rebecca J Keil (@rebeccajkeil) on Age Gaps, Te Reo Reclamation, Treating Your Kids Like Humans, and Breastfeeding Being REALLY HARD
Kia ora ano! Welcome back to another episode of WDYPLT, our penultimate episode of Season 1! (But don't worry, we've already got heaps of good stuff cooking for season 2!!) This week on the pod I was joined by the one-of-a-kind, OG influencer, good vibes, keeping it real, not afraid to speak up Rebecca J Keil!! Rebecca (@rebeccajkeil) is such a cooool lady. She keeps it so real, and is
BONUS: Why Do You Expert Like That w/ Caylin Dickson from Pēpi & Parent!
Ohhhh, you guys, she's a gem, she's a gem! Caylin Dickson from Pēpi & Parent is here to answer and debunk alllll things baby sleep. She carefully and considerately answers 5 listener submitted questions, and as she is doing so I develop a massive crush on her because she is just so wonderful! Thank you SO much Caylin, for lending your expertise to the WDYPLT listener whānau, we are
Cassidy Skelton (@cassidyskelton) on "Moving Fast", Low Cortisol Parenting, Navigating Career and Motherhood, and "Here is Good"
Who's that giiiiiiiirl, it's Cass! Cassidy Skelton (@cassidyskelton), the lady, the myth, the legend joins me this week for an extra fun, extra chaos chat. I mush so much about Cass in the intro and my pre-pod ramble so there isn't too much more I need to say here, but I was really thrilled to get the opportunity to sit down with my old pal and have a meaningful conversation about our parent
Britt & MJ Meafou (@dadbehaviour) on Being High School Sweethearts, A Fertility Journey, Raising Kind Humans, and Creating Dads' Village Postpartum
Blow me down, we've got a couple! It has been on my wishlist for a wee while now to have a couple speaking on their parenting experience together, and we got that this week with Britt and MJ Meafou! You may know MJ as @dadbehaviour on instagram. He shares his life as a Dad on there, but also has created a stroller club for dads in Christchurch! An opportunity for Dads to get together with th
Abby Bridgeman (@theearlydaysnewzealand) on Solo Parenting, PND, ADHD & Parenthood, Working in Healthcare, and Janky Placentas
Abby Bridgeman (@theearlydaysnewzealand), y'all. She has quickly become one of my favourite people, and I am really grateful to this podcast for introducing me to her. She wears so many hats: nurse, mum, neurodivergent, parenting educator, total badass, and we get into most of them on the pod! I could yap on for a long time about how much I appreciate and value her education and her fr
Ben Boyce (@ben_boyce_) on Fostering Your Kids' Interests, Parenting Teenagers, Being in the Public Eye, Navigating Social Media, and Plane Vomits
Haaaaaayyyyyooooo! Welcome back for another week! I'm so glad you're here! You have found this podcast while I am in the depths of norovirus and coming to you live from my bed. Everything hurts, chills, shakes, fever, headache. It's a whole thing. Which is WHY you will hear a weird automated intro from me this week. It's my words, but I truly did not have the strength to get out of bed
BONUS: Why Do You Expert Like That? w/Shrenika from Little Beat First Aid!
It's episode 2 of our bonus EXPERT episodes! If you don't know what these are, listeners from the WDYPLT community have the opportunity to submit questions to parenting-adjacent experts for them to be answered. This week Shrenika has 5 questions that she answers from listeners in the WDYPLT community, and she answers them beautifully! If you want to find Shrenika this is her website and this
Hannah Porter (@bearandmoonz) on Starting a Business at Her Dining Table, the Full Buffet of Pregnancy and Birth Experiences, Being in Business with Your Partner, and Attempting Balance in the Busy
This week I had the joy of sitting down and speaking with Hannah Porter AKA the owner of Bear and Moo NZ! Bear and Moo obviously have a special place in my heart after they became the first ever sponsor of WDYPLT. It was absolutely lovely hearing about Hannah's journey to becoming a parent and her experience of parenthood, as well as running a business and how those two things intertwine.&nbs
Sharyn Casey (@sharyncasey) on Raising Boys, 7 Weeks in NICU, Inclusivity, Swearing At The Top of Mount Eden and Narking on Your Own Kids
Holy friggin' moly can you believe that Aotearoa radio kuīni Sharyn Casey chatted with me for an hour about her parenting ~*jOuRnEy*~?! I certainly can't! Sharyn sat down with me and shared so much about her experiences raising her two boys Tyson and Reuben with her husband (also radio royalty) Bryce Casey. We talk fertility struggles, the 11 week early baby and NICU experience, raisin
Rāniera Procter (Ngāi Tāmanuhiri, Ngāti Porou) (@raniera_procter) on Raising Children in Te Ao Māori, Te Reo Māori as a First Language, Being a Whānau with a Collectivist Mindset, and Breaking the Taboo Around Stillbirth
I know I bang on about it a lot, but I will just never get over how lucky I am that people as cool and interesting as Rāniera want to talk to me. Rāniera Procter (Ngāi Tāmanuhiri, Ngāti Porou) joined me for an incredibly insightful conversation about his whānau and the values they live. In particular his mission to raise his children with te reo Māori as their first language, a taonga he was also
Charlotte Kells Robertson (@phdmamanz) on Parenting While Studying, The Societal Roadblocks to the Progression of Mothers, The Self-Identity Crisis of Going From One to Two, Releasing Expectations, Parenting Girls, and Knowing When You're 'Done'
Your political ranting, mother-advocate, chaos aunties are back for another week! Here for your listening pleasure is the second half of my conversation with Charlotte Kells Robertson (aka @phdmamanz). In this episode, Charlotte answers the third, fourth, and fifth questions and as you can probably tell from the title, we manage to cover quite a lot of ground! (Us? Chatting? It can't be!) Charlott
Charlotte Kells Robertson (@phdmamanz) on A Surprise Baby While Studying, Pregnancy and Newborns Through COVID, The Moral Value We Place on Birth, and Motherhood as a Sociological Concept
The best thing about this podcast is that I get to approach people I admire and get them to have a conversation with me, and that is exactly what happened in this situation. I have followed Charlotte Kells Robertson (aka @phdmamanz) for a good, long while now. Her knowledge and insight on motherhood has always left me looking like the mind-blown emoji, and this time she got to see that reaction in
Jo Robertson (@jorobertson.therapy) on Letting Her Kids Take Risks, 3 Boys Under 4, The Family Value of Adventure, and Raising Kids in the Internet Age.
You guys.. I'm honestly lost for words. Jo Robertson is on the pod, and I'm cheesing so hard about it. If you can't tell by the grin plastered on my face throughout the whole episode, Jo is a bit of a personal inspiration for me professionally. She has done some seriously, seriously impressive work in the child advocacy and parenting education space, but she makes it so easy to digest! Her communi
BONUS: Why Do You Expert Like That? w/ Jo Robertson!
Welcome to the very first episode of Why Do You EXPERT Like That? A bonus episode that you'll see every 6-ish weeks. I'm gonna be asking experts in parenting-adjacent spaces questions that have been submitted by listeners (you guys!) and get their big, big, beautiful brains to get some answers!This week we had five listener submitted questions and Jo answered with love, empathy, kindness, and was
Steph Monks (@stephmonksey) from The Edge on Empowered C Sections, Bursting the Newborn Bubble, Apologising to Anyone Who Had Kids Before Her, and Hyping Up the Mums in Her Life
If you've ever wanted to see me try and act cool and normal around someone I have a crush on, this is your opportunity! The absolute charisma-bomb that is Steph Monks joins me on the pod this week, and she's exceeded all expectations of funny, relatable, and insightful. You'll know Steph from her illustrious career in NZ radio, but she is currently keeping us entertained on our drives home with th
ANNOUNCEMENT!!! Why Do You Expert Like That?
Don't ever say I don't treat you right, my babies!!! It's a whole new segment coming to your feeds! Why Do You Expert Like That is going to be a bonus episode that features alongside the main episode every 6 weeks or so. I'll be asking a parenting-adjacent expert 3-5 listener submitted questions and give them space to answer in a long-form way. IT'S SO COOL, Y'ALL! Our firs
Nic Haldezos (@nic_haldezos) on Loving Your Partner Unconditionally, Two Under Two, Male Postpartum Depression, and Laughing Through the Chaos
Shut the front door, we've got a Dad!!! As I say in the introduction, something I've wanted from the beginning of this podcast is for this to be a space for parents of all genders. There are a lot of resources out there for mums and femme-identifying parents, and I think dads and masc-presenting parents can get a bit lost in the chaos. So I am so grateful that the wonderful Nic Haldezos (@
Renata Wiles (@renataroaming) on Being a Mum in Business, Finding the Balance, Equitable Relationships, and Going for It
Renata (@renataroaming) is just so, so cool. She's the founder of the Roam with Kids app and is on your social media feeds sharing all kinds of baby/kid friendly events and spaces. Renata chatted with me this week about so many great topics, but I was particularly impressed with how politically clued in she is. Renata is passionate about changing the landscape so that birthing parents have jus
Sophie Moskowitz (@imperfectparents.nz) on Releasing Expectations of Perfection, Finding Genuine Connections, and Raising Socially Conscious Children.
Buckle in, cos this is a goodie! Sophie Moskowitz joins Abbey for a brilliant conversation about her parenting journey and the isolation of parenting during COVID being the experience that sparked the idea of her business Imperfect Parents NZ. Sophie has been a nanny, an ECE teacher, a parent, and is now an antenatal facilitator and parenting group facilitator, so parenting is her thing. Her wealt
Sonya Prior (@thebbnamer) on Surprise Pregnancies, Learning to Trust Yourself, Instinctive Parenting, and Allllll Things Baby Names
This week the Aotearoa baby naming queen taking TikTok by storm Sonya Prior (@thebbnamer) is here! I forced Sonya to be my friend after finding her content because I knew we were birds of a feather, and I was totally right. Sonya generously shared so much of her parenting story with me this week, including surprise pregnancies, her non-perfect births, not letting your childhood affect the childhoo
Jessie Peters on One & Done, Working Motherhood, Filling Your Cup, and Finding Your Village.
Testing, testing.. is this thing on...?! Wow, here we are! A brand new parenting pod! A huge thank you to my gal pal Jessie Peters for bringing her insight and experience to the inaugural episode of WDYPLT. We got to chat about so many different aspects of parenting, including myth busting a bunch of lies we get told as new parents! Resources mentioned in this pod: - Good Inside by Dr. Becky Kenne
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