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It Was Never a Job

It Was Never a Job

Chris Saenger 9 Episodes Aug 18, 2026

A podcast about life overseas with USAID. Former USAID Foreign Service Officers recall moments of danger, traveling to monitor remote projects, hosting VIP visitors, how moving to a new country every few years impacted their families, and more. Their stories are harrowing and hilarious, heartbreaking and joyful. Because USAID service was never a job. It was our life.

Episodes

Reactions to Loss
Reactions to Loss Aug 18, 2026 3136 This whole show is a reaction to the loss of USAID. Not so much the loss of the Agency’s lifesaving programs or its contribution to our national security. Not even the loss of a part of our country’s own sense of itself. This show focused on the loss of the community of under 2,000 Foreign Service Officers who, along with our loved ones, spent our lives and careers overseas in the world’s toughest
LGBTQI+ Diplomats
LGBTQI+ Diplomats Aug 11, 2026 2853 USAID’s LGBTQI+ diplomats had different experiences, navigating the policies and norms of both the U.S. and the places where they served. Many countries around the world don’t recognize same-sex marriages, and therefore don’t grant diplomatic status to most spouses of LGBTQI+ Foreign Service Officers. Without the protection of that diplomatic accreditation for their families, USAID staff either pu
Pets.
Pets. Aug 4, 2026 1344 USAID’s overseas staff took their whole lives with them from country to country, including their pets. Living and working all over the world offered plenty of opportunities for USAID staff to adopt dogs and cats in need of love and care.  Those canine and feline companions became dear members of many a Foreign Service family. But the process of moving from country to country with animals posed end
Other Stories
Other Stories Jul 28, 2026 2218 I’ve had a lot of conversations as a part of making this show. In most cases, I was able to find thematic groupings to create episodes. But there were also a bunch of harrowing, hilarious, improbable stories that just didn’t fit under any single category. And so here’s an episode of other great stories. Locusts. Girl Scout cookies. Highly unexpected compliments from strangers. It’s all here. If yo
Friendship
Friendship Jul 21, 2026 2508 Life overseas with USAID meant spending years at a time far from extended families and home communities. During those times, the Agency’s staff found new connections with the colleagues and families serving alongside them. Those attachments often formed quickly – sometimes ending when it was time to move to the next assignment in the next country – but other times growing into lifelong bonds. Clos
Health & Healthcare
Health & Healthcare Jul 14, 2026 2421 The experience of navigating health and health-care captures both the adventure and the mundane realities of everyday existence overseas with USAID. Mystery ailments and emergency room visits feel very different in unfamiliar languages and cultures. But regular checkups and annual visits need to happen all the same. Nearly every U.S. Embassy overseas has an in-house clinic called a Health Unit, wh
COVID
COVID Jul 7, 2026 2609 The COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 was difficult for just about every person on the planet. We all have losses from that time, some large and tragic, others small but often long-lasting. For those posted abroad with USAID, the experience varied tremendously depending on your location. Every country made its own rules about masking, isolation, businesses, testing, and vaccines. Countries with weaker loc
Connecting with the Military
Connecting with the Military Jun 30, 2026 2407 USAID people have a lot in common with military people: a wicked sense of humor, a sort of weird enthusiasm for hard problems, and a commitment to getting the job done no matter what. When USAID folks and military folks encountered each other in our overseas deployments, we bonded quickly, having both chosen a path of service, often in harm's way, and often far from our loved ones. USAID and DoD p
"Wow" Moments
"Wow" Moments Feb 20, 2026 1468 Life and work with USAID offered amazing experiences. Visits to the wildest, most beautiful, most remote places in the world. Meetings in the Presidential palace or the White House. Real human connection across wide gulfs of language and culture. Seeing firsthand how our work helped families and communities live better lives. Service to the United States through service to the world. Next time you
Duty Officer
Duty Officer Feb 13, 2026 1229 A US Embassy has no higher purpose than serving Americans overseas. When a fellow citizen loses their passport, ends up in jail, gets seriously ill, or dies in another country, specialized State Department officers are there to help them. Those State Department officers who focus on services for American citizens do plenty of work on nights and weekends, but they need a break sometimes. So when an
Diplomats of Color
Diplomats of Color Feb 6, 2026 1431 This episode doesn’t need much of an intro or summary. It doesn’t have obscure government acronyms or a lot of Embassy inside baseball that needs explaining. USAID’s diplomats of color had different experiences, and this episode shares a few of them. Learn more and get in touch at www.itwasneverajob.com.
VIPs and Visitors
VIPs and Visitors Jan 30, 2026 1377 Embassy life can be pretty fancy. Diplomats meet with heads of state, CEOs, and Ambassadors. The President, Cabinet secretaries, and other Washington bosses visit. The only thing that’s a bigger deal than a VIP is a *V*-VIP. That’s of course a VERY very important person – usually code for the President, the Vice President, or the Secretary of State. Congressional delegations – abbreviated “Co-Dels

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