
The Relational Turn: Stories of Connection and Change
The Relational Turn is a six-episode podcast that explores the power of human connection and how relationships can drive social change. Hosted by Monica Sesma and Rocio Chaveste, program directors of the International Certificate in Collaborative and Dialogic Practices (ICCP), the series features generative dialogues that blur the lines between theory and practice, academia and community. Sponsored by the Taos Institute, it invites listeners to reflect on how conversation becomes transformation.
Episodes

The Relational Turn — Episode 5
Relational PublishingGuests: Sally St. George, Dan Wulff, and Ron Chenail In this episode, the editors reflect on how social constructionist and dialogic ideas shape their work as scholars, therapists, teachers, and journal editors. They discuss mentoring authors through valuing rather than evaluating, using respectful language, supporting global scholars, and how relational publishing influences

The Relational Turn — Episode 4
From Zero to Hero: Relational Practice in EducationIn this episode, we explore the collaboration between educator Ingebjorg Maeland and social constructionist scholar Ken Gergen, and the development of a school grounded in appreciative inquiry and relational practices. They reflect on the school’s initial challenges, their first meeting, and Ken’s impressions during his visit. The conversation hig

The Relational Turn — Episode 3
Embodying Social Construction with Sheila McNamee and FriendsIn this episode with Sheila McNamee and Friends, we explored social constructionism as a living, relational practice rather than only a theory or research approach. The discussion highlighted the importance of community, relational spaces, and communities of care, drawing on examples from Brazil, where social constructionist ideas are em

The Relational Turn — Episode 2
The Relational Turn — Episode 2Reimagining Child Protection: Constructing Different Realities Through International Dialogue with Harlene AndersonIn this episode, Monica Sesma and Rocio Chaveste are joined by Harlene Anderson, Helma Van Der Hoeven, Otto Sestak, and Khadija Al-Sarhi for a rich international conversation on rethinking child protection through collaborative and relational practices.

The Relational Turn — Episode 1
Beyond Substances: Conversations that Connect, Heal, andTransformIn this inaugural episode, Monica Sesma and Rocio Chavestesit down with Pavel Nepustil and Adela Pankova to explore a radical reimagining of how we understand drug use, addiction, and healing. What happens when we shift from individual counseling to family and network-based therapy? How does change unfold when two therapists, includi
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