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People Who Read People: A Behavior and Psychology Podcast

People Who Read People: A Behavior and Psychology Podcast

Zachary Elwood 210 Episodes Aug 28, 2026

This show helps you understand human behavior and psychology to better navigate personal and professional life and connect with people. Host Zachary Elwood, author of the Reading Poker Tells trilogy, interviews a wide range of guests including law enforcement, researchers, sports analysts, and mental health experts. The podcast emphasizes patience, nuance, and questioning simplistic assumptions. With over 200 episodes, it offers deep insights into real-world human behavior.

Episodes

Army Psy-Op veteran talks influence, blowback, psy-op myths, and more
Army Psy-Op veteran talks influence, blowback, psy-op myths, and more Aug 28, 2026 01:28:42 A talk with an Army Psychological Operations soldier about what military psy-op work really involves—and how different the reality is from many people's ideas about the nature of that work. We discuss his psy-op work in Afghanistan, why credibility and truth are usually much more persuasive and effective than deception, and fascinating historical operations involving surrender appeals, staged inte
Can computers spot lies better than humans?, with Bennett Kleinberg
Can computers spot lies better than humans?, with Bennett Kleinberg Aug 12, 2026 01:00:02 Can machines spot a lie better than we can? I talk with psychology researcher Bennett Kleinberg, whose work brings together psychology, machine learning, natural-language processing, and deception detection. We explore why humans are bad at identifying lies, which verbal clues may reveal deception—and why nervousness is often misleading. Bennett explains how liars use detail and how level of detai
Inside a Scientology e-meter auditing session, with Chris Shelton
Inside a Scientology e-meter auditing session, with Chris Shelton Aug 2, 2026 01:23:35 Former Scientologist Chris Shelton spent thousands of hours using the e-meter to "audit" fellow members of the Church—but what does the device actually measure, and why do Scientologists trust it as an infallible guide to the truth? Chris takes us inside a typical auditing session, explaining the personal questions auditors ask, the needle movements they watch for, and what they believe
How Pete Blair scored 100% in a deception detection study
How Pete Blair scored 100% in a deception detection study Jul 24, 2026 01:03:56 In a 2014 deception detection study, Pete Blair made 33 judgments—and got all 33 right. That paper was titled “Expertise in deception detection involves actively prompting diagnostic information rather than passive behavioral observation.” I ask Pete about what the factors were in him getting 100% accuracy in that study, and we talk about the interplay between verbal and nonverbal behavior. Pete t
Behaviorally, poker and interrogations are very different
Behaviorally, poker and interrogations are very different Jul 10, 2026 00:49:32 Zach Elwood, author of influential books on poker tells and host of the People Who Read People podcast, joins The Deductionist podcast for a wide-ranging conversation about what we can and can't learn from human behavior. Drawing on his years studying poker tells and consulting for high-stakes players, Zach explains why reading behavior in structured games like poker is fundamentally different fro
Understanding defenses of the polygraph, with David Goldberg
Understanding defenses of the polygraph, with David Goldberg Jul 1, 2026 01:19:50 Polygraphs are a controversial tool in criminal investigations: critics argue they're too unreliable to trust, while proponents say that, even if they’re not perfect, they nonetheless can play a valuable role in helping uncover the truth. I talk with veteran polygraph examiner David Goldberg (executiveprotectiongrp.com), who has conducted more than 20,000 examinations over a 30-year career and who
The push for science-based interrogation approaches, with Maria Hartwig and Christian Cory
The push for science-based interrogation approaches, with Maria Hartwig and Christian Cory Jun 20, 2026 00:53:18 In real or fictional criminal interrogation scenes, you've probably seen the approach where police barge in and confront the suspect with the evidence, trying to get them to crack and give a confession. In this talk, Maria Hartwig and Christian Cory explain why that doesn’t work well, and why a strategic use of evidence (SUE) approach, involving planning out the reveal of evidence, gets much bette
Reading behavior in The Traitors and other social deduction games, with Zack Davies (UK season 2)
Reading behavior in The Traitors and other social deduction games, with Zack Davies (UK season 2) Jun 13, 2026 01:00:14 Zack Davies was a standout contestant on the popular reality TV show The Traitors (UK, season 2). The Traitors is what is called a social deduction game, similar to the games Werewolf and Mafia. In this talk we examine psychological factors and behavioral clues that can shape players' perceptions and decisions in this game. We discuss how friendships and rivalries can negatively affect people’s ju
How digital investigators expose lies and find truth, with OSINT pro Craig Silverman
How digital investigators expose lies and find truth, with OSINT pro Craig Silverman Jun 5, 2026 00:58:09 How do digital/open-source investigators uncover hidden truths and expose lies? World-renowned digital sleuth Craig Silverman shares important lessons he's learned from years spent exposing scammers, fake-news operators, fraud networks, and online deception. We discuss: the techniques investigators use to track anonymous people through seemingly insignificant clues; why stepping away from a case c
Secret Service agent on building rapport, reading people, and polygraphs | Brad Beeler
Secret Service agent on building rapport, reading people, and polygraphs | Brad Beeler May 30, 2026 01:06:06 How much can we really learn from people's words and behavior—and where do we risk fooling ourselves? In this talk, former Secret Service agent and polygraph examiner Brad Beeler explores the practical realities of interrogations, deception detection, statement analysis, and reading people in high-stakes situations. We discuss why confirmation bias is such a threat to good investigations, why many
How recruiters spot fake, deceptive job applicants, with Dani Tepedjiyska
How recruiters spot fake, deceptive job applicants, with Dani Tepedjiyska May 15, 2026 00:53:01 What if some job applicants aren’t actually trying to get jobs — but are instead trying to infiltrate companies? Dani Tepedjiyska, who works with the recruitment firm Michael Page, describes a strange and growing world of fake resumes, organized applicant networks, AI-assisted interviews, and suspicious staffing firms that may be helping fraudulent actors gain access to banks and other financial i
Interrogation trainer shares what really works (and why "reading people" doesn't)
Interrogation trainer shares what really works (and why "reading people" doesn't) May 5, 2026 01:03:00 Many people think police interrogations often involve reading body language and catching “tells” of deception. Interrogation trainer Mark Anderson explains how much of what’s taught about using nonverbal behavior in high-stakes interviews is based on myth, not science—and how a faulty focus on “reading people” can actually damage interviews. We dig into why stress behaviors don’t signal guilt, how

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