
The Deconstructionists
A podcast about building new faith. It's all about construction, but sometimes that means you have to deconstruct a little. Questions, exploration, mystery...
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Ep. 243 - Jacob & Esau: The Misunderstood Brothers
What if one of the Bible's most famous stories isn't really about a hero and a villain?For centuries, many of us have been taught to read the story of Jacob and Esau through a familiar lens: Jacob, despite his flaws, is God's chosen son, while Esau becomes little more than the cautionary tale of the brother who "despised his birthright." But what happens when we slow down, revi

Ep. 242 - Shelby Forsythia "Grief, Healing, and the Stories We Carry" (Part 2)
In Part 2 of our conversation with grief coach, author, and podcaster Shelby Forsythia, we dive deeper into her brand-new book, Of Course I'm Here Right Now.Most of us want to help when someone we love is grieving. The problem is that we've never been taught how. Instead, we fall back on clichés, platitudes, and well-meaning advice that often leaves grieving people feeling even more isolat

Ep. 241 - Shelby Forsythia "Grief, Healing, and the Stories We Carry" (Part 1)
What happens when grief changes not just your life… but your identity?In part one of this conversation, John sits down with author, grief guide, and speaker Shelby Forsythia to discuss her new book and the complicated, deeply human realities of loss, healing, and personal transformation.Together, they explore the myths we inherit about grief, why so many people feel pressure to “move on” too quick

Ep. 240 - Dualism — The Battle Between Spirit and Matter
What if one of the most influential ideas in modern Christianity… didn’t actually come from Jesus?In this episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast, we explore the history and impact of dualism — the ancient belief that spirit is good while matter, bodies, and the physical world are somehow lesser, corrupt, or evil.From Plato and Greek philosophy to Gnosticism and modern evangelical culture, we tr

Ep. 239 - Dr. Bart Ehrman "Love Thy Stranger" pt. 2
In Part 2 of our conversation, Bart Ehrman returns to discuss his latest book, Love Thy Stranger, and the lasting impact Jesus’ teachings had on moral thought in the Western world.We continue exploring how ideas surrounding compassion, forgiveness, charity, and care for outsiders emerged within early Christianity — while also wrestling with the ways institutions and political movements have often

Ep. 238 - Dr. Bart Ehrman "Love Thy Stranger" pt. 1
Dr. Bart Ehrman – Love Thy Stranger: How the Teachings of Jesus Transformed the Moral Conscience of the West (Part 1)In Part 1 of our conversation with renowned New Testament scholar and historian Dr. Bart Ehrman, we dive into his latest book, "Love Thy Stranger: How the Teachings of Jesus Transformed the Moral Conscience of the West".For centuries, people have debated whether Christianity

Ep. 237 - Lillian Daniels "Failure, Accountability & the Future of the Church" pt. 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Lillian Daniel, we move deeper into the tensions at the heart of her story—and the bigger questions it raises for the modern church.If Part 1 explored what happened, this episode asks what it means.We talk about accountability, institutional systems, and whether the church is actually capable of handling failure in a way that leads to healing rather than harm.📚 A

Ep. 236 - Lillian Daniel "Defrocked: Good News from a Bad Pastor for a Better Church" pt. 1
📝 Episode SummaryDrawing from her new book, Defrocked: Good News from a Bad Pastor for a Better Church, Lillian shares her journey through ministry, the unexpected challenges she encountered, and the moments that forced her to rethink long-held assumptions about leadership, faith, and belonging.This episode is an honest look at what happens when certainty begins to crack—and why that might not be

Ep. 235 - Dr. Cristy Carr "Reclaiming the Forgotten Self" pt. 2
What happens when the version of you that survived… isn’t the version of you that’s whole?In Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Cristy Carr, we move deeper—beyond awareness and into the work of healing. Together, we explore what it looks like to reconnect with the parts of ourselves that were silenced, shaped, or suppressed by trauma, religious systems, and the need to belong.This episode isn’t a

Ep. 234 - Dr. Cristy Carr "The Forgotten Self" pt. 1
🧭 Episode SummaryWho were you… before you were told who to be?For many of us—especially those shaped by religious systems—identity isn’t something we discovered. It’s something we inherited.Beliefs. Roles. Expectations.All layered over time until the line between who we are and who we were told to be becomes hard to see.In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, we sit down with Cristy S. Carr to ex

Ep. 233 - Violence and the Bible
Episode: Violence and the Bible – What Do We Do With It?🧭 Episode SummaryViolence is everywhere in the Bible—and for many, it’s one of the most difficult aspects of scripture to reconcile with the idea of a loving God.In this episode, John explores one of the most pressing and personal questions facing modern readers of the Bible:What do we do with the violence in scripture—and what does it mean f

Ep. 232 - Dr. Michelle Keener "Comfort in the Ashes" pt. 2
The Deconstructionists PodcastGuest: Dr. Michelle KeenerIn Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Michelle Keener, we go deeper into the themes of her book, Comfort in the Ashes: Explorations in the Book of Job to Support Trauma Survivors, and what it means to engage scripture after certainty has cracked.If Part 1 explored how harmful interpretations take root, this episode focuses on what comes afte

Ep. 231 - Dr. Michelle Keener "Comfort in the Ashes" pt. 1
In this first part of our conversation, we’re joined by Dr. Michelle Keener, author of Comfort in the Ashes: Explorations in the Book of Job to Support Trauma Survivors.The Book of Job is often cited in conversations about suffering—but just as often, it’s been used to minimize pain, rush people toward answers, or reinforce harmful ideas about God, blame, and endurance. In Comfort in the Ashes, Dr

Ep. 230 - John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz "Jesus and Justice" pt. 2
In Part Two of our conversation with John Dominic Crossan and Michael Okinczyc-Cruz, we move from historical foundations to present-day consequences.Once Jesus is understood within the realities of Roman imperial power, the implications become unavoidable — especially in a moment when Christianity in the United States is increasingly entangled with political authority, violence, and domination.In

Ep. 229 - John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz "Jesus and Justice" pt. 1
In this episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast, we’re joined by John Dominic Crossan and Michael Okinczyc-Cruz for the first part of a wide-ranging conversation about Jesus, empire, and why historical context matters now more than ever.As religion, power, and nationalism continue to collide in the United States, this conversation feels remarkably timely — not because it’s reacting to current ev

Ep. 228 - Valentyn Syniy - "God Under Siege: How War Transformed a Ukrainian Community" pt. 2
In this deeply moving conversation, John sits down for part two with Valentyn Syniy, a Ukrainian pastor, theologian, and author whose life and ministry have been profoundly shaped by the reality of war.This interview was recorded under extraordinary circumstances. Scheduling had to account for the very real possibility of Russian airstrikes and power outages. Valentyn’s wife graciously joined the

Ep. 227 - Valentyn Syniy - "God Under Siege: How War Transformed a Ukrainian Community" pt. 1
In this deeply moving conversation, John sits down with Valentyn Syniy, a Ukrainian pastor, theologian, and author whose life and ministry have been profoundly shaped by the reality of war.For many of us—especially those who have never served or lived in a war-torn region—war can feel abstract. Something debated from a distance. Should troops be sent? Should they not? But for Valentyn and millions

Ep. 226 - Immigration "Process, Not Performance" pt. 3
This episode dismantles the most persistent myths surrounding immigration and replaces them with how the system actually works.We walk through immigration policy historically and in real time—naming the racial roots of U.S. immigration law, explaining why “just do it legally” is not a serious policy position, and breaking down the real costs, timelines, and barriers people face today.We also look

Ep. 225 - Immigration "When Power Asks for Blessing" pt. 2
This episode steps back and asks a harder question:What has the church done in moments like this before—and what does faithfulness actually require now?We begin with church history, tracing how Christians have repeatedly been asked to bless state violence in the name of order and safety. We examine how labels like “criminal,” “terrorist,” and “threat” have historically been used to short-circuit m

Ep. 224 - Immigration "When Fear Becomes Policy" pt. 1
When Fear Becomes PolicyIn this episode, we address what’s happening right now in the United States as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations escalate in visibility, intensity, and violence.This is not a political episode.It’s a human one.We examine verified facts, video evidence, and legal realities surrounding recent enforcement actions, including documented cases involving America

Ep. 223 - Dr. Alexander Shaia "A Holiday Conversation" pt. 2
Episode DescriptionIn Part Two of our conversation with Alexander Shaia, we move beyond theory and into practice—exploring what spiritual transformation actually looks like in real life.In Part One, we traced the foundations of Dr. Shaia’s work and why his approach to the Gospels resonates so deeply with people navigating faith, doubt, and deconstruction. In this episode, we go deeper—into lived e

Ep. 222 - Dr. Alexander Shaia "A Holiday Conversation" pt. 1
A Holiday Conversation with Dr. Alexander Shaia — Part 1For many people, the holiday season isn’t filled with joy and nostalgia — it’s filled with grief, loneliness, exhaustion, and complicated memories. This episode is especially for those who find this time of year difficult.In Part One of this two-part holiday conversation, we’re joined by our dear friend Alexander Shaia for a reflective, unhur

Ep. 221 - Peter Rollins - "Communion, Community, and the Transformative Power of Doubt" Part 2
Episode Summary:Part 2 of our conversation with philosopher and friend of the show Peter Rollins goes even deeper into the psychological, existential, and communal dynamics of faith and identity. If Part 1 set the stage, Part 2 pulls the curtain all the way back.This is one of those conversations that lingers. It’s dense, it’s provocative, and it’s full of the kind of insights that Pete has become

Ep. 220 - Peter Rollins - "Communion, Community, and the Transformative Power of Doubt" Part 1
Episode Summary:In this long-awaited return to the podcast, philosopher, storyteller, and longtime friend of the show Peter Rollins joins us for a rich, mind-bending conversation about faith, identity, and the transformative potential of doubt. Peter was one of our earliest guests and someone who understood the heart of this podcast from day one. After far too much time away, he’s back — and this

Brand New Patreon!
🎉 We’ve Launched a Brand New Patreon!After years of letting our old Patreon quietly collect dust, we’re excited to officially announce that The Deconstructionists Podcast now has a fully rebuilt Patreon — with brand new tiers, fresh content, and one beloved classic perk we kept just for you.This podcast has always been — and still is — 100% independent. We cover the costs out of pocket, not becaus

Ep. 219 - Original Sin or Original Blessing?
Episode SummaryIn this deep-dive episode, we explore one of the most influential — and controversial — doctrines in the history of Christianity: Original Sin.For many of us, Original Sin was presented as a foundational truth. We were told it explained everything wrong with humanity: our impulses, our desires, our bodies, our failures. But where did this idea actually come from? How did early Chris

Ep. 218 - Joe Ingle "God behind bars: Dignity, Justice & Prison Ministry" pt. 2
Episode OverviewIn this second half of John’s conversation with Pastor Joe Ingle, we continue exploring the deeply human, often heartbreaking realities of prison ministry — particularly Joe’s decades of work with individuals on death row.If Part 1 introduced the calling and contours of his work, Part 2 steps fully into the emotional, spiritual, and ethical complexities of walking with people whom

Ep. 217 - Joe Ingle "God behind bars: Dignity, Justice & Prison Ministry" pt. 1
In this long-awaited and nearly lost conversation, John sits down with Pastor Joe Ingle, a longtime prison minister, advocate, and spiritual companion to people on death row. Joe’s work challenges our assumptions about justice, punishment, compassion, and what it means to show up for people society has thrown away.This interview was recorded last year and was almost lost forever when the laptop it

Ep. 216 - Kerstin Hedlund "Faith on the Frontlines" pt. 2
In this episode, we continue our conversation with Army Chaplain Lieutenant Colonel Kerstin Hedlund. If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, we recommend starting there for context.Kerstin has spent years serving alongside soldiers in moments of grief, trauma, transition, and deep personal struggle. Her work isn’t about offering easy answers. It’s about presence, listening, and holding space for re

Ep. 215 - Kerstin Hedlund "Faith on the Frontlines" pt. 1
Episode SummaryIn this two-part conversation, John sits down with Pastor Kerstin Hedlund, a U.S. Army Chaplain whose story offers a rare window into what faith looks like when it’s lived out in the hardest and most human places.From her path into military chaplaincy to the deep questions that arise in the presence of trauma and moral injury, Kerstin’s perspective brings theology down to earth — in

Ep. 214 - Hell, The Devil, and Atonement Theories
Episode: Hell, the Devil, and Atonement TheoriesWhat exactly do Christians mean when they talk about hell? Where did the idea of the devil come from, and why does it look so different across the Bible? And why are there so many different theories of atonement—Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection—when most of us only ever hear one?In this episode, we dig deep into the history, language, and theolog

Ep. 213 - Is Deconstruction Bad? (...it's not)
Episode DescriptionIn this episode, John takes on a question that’s been floating around the public conversation for years — often asked with fear, frustration, or misunderstanding: Is deconstruction a bad thing?After years of listening to the debate unfold online and in church spaces, it felt like time to finally respond. This conversation is part of our current series tackling some of the most f

Ep. 212 - Does the Bible Really Condemn Same-Sex Relationships?
Episode SummaryYou’ve probably heard it before: “The Bible clearly condemns homosexuality.” But is that actually true?In this episode, we put that claim under a microscope. We dig into the six main passages most often cited against same-sex relationships, examine them in their original language and cultural context, and confront the translation choices and theological assumptions that have shaped

Ep. 211 - Sarah Hurwitz "As A Jew: Reclaiming Our Story" (pt. 2)
In Part Two of our interview with Sarah Hurwitz, we dive deeper into the big questions raised in Here All Along. Drawing on her experiences in both politics and faith, Sarah reflects on the role of ritual, the meaning of community, and how spiritual practices can ground us in an unsteady world.In this episode, we discuss:How Jewish rituals and practices can bring balance to modern life.The challen

Ep. 210 - Sarah Hurwitz "As A Jew: Reclaiming Our Story" (pt. 1)
In this first half of our conversation with Sarah Hurwitz—author, former White House speechwriter, and chief speechwriter for First Lady Michelle Obama—we explore her journey from the political stage to a deeply personal exploration of faith. Sarah was part of President Obama’s speechwriting team, helping craft some of his most memorable addresses, before turning her attention to spirituality and

Ep. 209 - The History of the Bible: How We Got the Scriptures We Have Today
Episode SummaryThe Bible is often treated as if it arrived perfectly bound, leather-covered, and gold-edged, straight from heaven. But the reality is far more complex—and far more interesting.In this episode, we dig into the real history of how the Bible was formed—from its earliest writings to the process of canonization, from the Apocrypha to translation controversies, and why no one alive today

Ep. 208 - Bailey Krawczyk "Lights, Camera, Control: Hillsong from the Inside" (Part 2)
🧵 Episode Summary:In Part 2 of our conversation with Bailey Krawczyk, we move from the experience of life inside Hillsong to the harrowing process of getting out. Bailey opens up about the aftermath of leaving, the emotional toll of speaking out in the Hillsong documentary, and the backlash from those still inside the movement.We also explore the broader systems that allowed abuse and control to f

Ep. 207 - Bailey Krawczyk "Lights, Camera, Control: Hillsong from the Inside" (Part 1)
🧵 Episode Summary:In this first of a two-part conversation, we sit down with Bailey Krawczyk, a former Hillsong member who bravely spoke out in the Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed documentary. Bailey shares what initially drew her to the movement—its music, its energy, its promises of purpose—and how that promise slowly unraveled.From inside the worship team to behind-the-scenes control tactics, Ba

Ep. 206 - Zionism, Gaza, and the Western Church: Untangling a Complicated History
🔍 Episode SummaryIn this episode, we step into one of the most emotionally and politically charged issues in modern history—the war in Gaza and the roots of Zionism. With so much confusion around the history, theology, and current events, we take a step back to examine how we got here and why it matters.We trace the origins of modern Zionism, the rise of the state of Israel, and how Western Christ

Teaser Episode: History on the Margins - The Corpse Synod
Episode Description:In the year 897, Pope Stephen VI ordered the rotting corpse of his predecessor, Pope Formosus, to be dug up, dressed in papal robes, propped up on a throne, and put on trial.Yes, this actually happened.This bizarre and macabre moment in church history—known as the Cadaver Synod or Synodus Horrenda—is one of the most infamous (and grotesque) episodes of the medieval papacy. In t

Ep. 205 - Dr. Paul Swindle "Religious Trauma"
📌 Episode Summary:In this deeply insightful episode, John sits down with Dr. Paula Swindle—a licensed therapist and professor who has spent a career studying religious trauma —to unpack the concept of spiritual bypass, the psychological consequences of religious trauma, and the subtle ways churches often silence dissent.Dr. Swindle brings decades of experience working at the intersection of psycho

Ep. 204 - Adey & Tom Wassink "Sanctuary: Queering a Church in the Heartland" pt. 2
📌 Episode Summary:In Part 2 of this powerful and emotional interview, Adey and Tom Wassink continue their story of navigating faith, integrity, and exclusion. After years of dedicated service in the Vineyard Movement, their decision to affirm LGBTQ people came with real consequences—not just within the church, but in their community, friendships, and calling.They speak candidly about the silence t

Ep. 203 - Adey & Tom Wassink "Sanctuary: Queering a Church in the Heartland" pt. 1
📌 Episode Summary:In Part 1 of this deeply moving conversation, John sits down with Adey and Tom Wassink—former Vineyard pastors who found themselves quietly pushed to the margins for their commitment to LGBTQ inclusion.The Wassinks share their story of faithful ministry, their transformation toward a more affirming theology, and the difficult choices they faced as a result. Through heartbreak, re

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Adam & John "Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power"
🎙️ Episode Title: John Gets Interviewed: The Story Behind Spoiled Fruit🎧 Episode Description:We’re back—and kicking things off with a role reversal. In this special episode of The Deconstructionists, Adam returns to the mic (yes, really!) to interview John about his new investigative podcast Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power, which officially drops Tuesday, May 6th.After over a year of research, in

RE-RELEASE - Richard Rohr "Rohr 101"
Welcome back to The Deconstructionists Podcast!Today, we’re excited to re-release one of our most beloved conversations with Father Richard Rohr — a deep-dive interview we originally titled “Richard Rohr 101.”This is different from the Father Rohr episode we re-released a few weeks ago — that earlier conversation gave a broad overview of his work.This one? It goes deeper — exploring contemplation,

RE-RELEASE - Father Richard Rohr "Falling Upward"
Episode Description:In this special re-release, we revisit our 2016 conversation with Father Richard Rohr, a renowned Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher celebrated for his profound insights into Christian mysticism, contemplation, and action. Father Rohr’s teachings have guided countless individuals on their spiritual journeys, encouraging a deeper understanding of faith and the interconnecte

RE-RELEASE - Walter Bruggemann "Struggling with Scripture"
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In this special re-release, we revisit our profound conversation with renowned theologian Walter Brueggemann. Known for his influential work on the prophetic imagination, Brueggemann challenges us to envision a world rooted in compassion, justice, and a deep understanding of the Hebrew prophets. Whether you’re hearing this dialogue for the first time or revisiting it, Brueggem

Introduction: From The Void Season 7!
In this thrilling season of From the Void, join us as we delve into history's most perplexing mysteries. From the eerie disappearance of the Roanoke colony to the controversial fate of Adolf Hitler, we explore the stories that continue to baffle experts.
We'll also tackle the age-old question of mythical creatures like Bigfoot and sift through new evidence that might finally reveal their e

Ep. 202 - Dr. Garrick Allen "Words Are Not Enough" pt. 2
Welcome to the Deconstructionist Podcast! Join host John Williamson as he embarks on a captivating exploration of ancient biblical manuscripts with esteemed guest Dr. Garrick V. Allen. Delve into the intriguing world of historical texts, their annotations, and the fascinating doodles etched by past readers. Discover the significance of titles and how they shape our understanding of the scriptures

Ep. 201 - Dr. Garrick Allen "Words Are Not Enough" pt. 1
In this episode of the Deconstructionist Podcast, host John Williamson sits down with Dr. Garrick Allen to delve into his groundbreaking book, Words Are Not Enough: Paratexts, Manuscripts, and the Real New Testament. Discover the fascinating journey of how early biblical texts evolved through centuries of meticulous manual transcription, revealing the rich history behind the Gospels.Join us as Dr.

BONUS: Nora Creech "The Shroud of Turin"
Guest/Bio:
This week I welcome Nora Creech to talk about the Shroud of Turin! Nora has been interested in the Shroud of Turin since the 1970s and has extensively studied the linen cloth. As an experienced lecturer on the history, science, and pastoral implications of the Shroud, she is passionate about sharing the facts related to the mysterious image and connecting it to the Gospel message.
Gu

Ep 200 - Tucker S. Ferda "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming" pt. 2
Join host John Williamson in part two of an enlightening discussion with Tucker S. Furda about his new book, "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming, Jewish Eschatology and Christian Origins." Furda, an associate professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, delves into the intricate topics of the Gospels, Eschatology, and early Christian beliefs.Explore how historical figur

Re-Release: Dr. Alexander Shaia "Radiance within the Darkness"
Guest Info/Bio:
This week we bring you a Christmas treat! This is a re-release of one of our absolute favorite guests in one of our absolute favorite interviews! This is a special Christmas episode we recorded with our dear friend Alexander Shaia back in 2017.
Dr. Alexander Shaia is an international speaker, author, and teacher. He studied cultural anthropology at Notre Dame University, and also

Ep. 199 - Tucker S. Ferda "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming" pt. 1
Join host John Williamson in this enlightening episode of the Deconstructionist Podcast as he sits down with Tucker Esferda, Associate Professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. Tucker shares insights from his new book, "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming: Jewish Eschatology and Christian Origins," offering a thought-provoking discussion on the historical Jesus, escha

Ep. 198 - Thomas Kazen ”Dirt, Shame, Status: Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week I welcome back Dr. Thomas Kazen for part 2 of our conversation on same-sex sexuality and the bible.Dr. Kazen is professor and research chair of biblical studies at Stockholm School of Theology, University College Stockholm. He has authored numerous books and articles in English and Swedish, including Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity and Impurity and Purification in Ea

Ep. 197 - Thomas Kazen ”Dirt, Shame, Status: Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week I welcome Dr. Thomas Kazen! Dr. Kazen is professor and research chair of biblical studies at Stockholm School of Theology, University College Stockholm. He has authored numerous books and articles in English and Swedish, including Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity and Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition. Guest (Selected) Works: Moral Infr

Ep. 196 - John Dominic Crossan ”Paul The Pharisee” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week I welcome back Dr. John Dominic Crossan for part 2 of our conversation on Paul. Dr. Crossan is considered one of the foremost New Testament scholars today. He's an Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of the Jesus Seminar, and emeritus professor at DePaul University. His research has focu

Ep. 195 - John Dominic Crossan ”Paul the Pharisee” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week I welcome back Dr. John Dominic Crossan! Dr. Crossan is considered one of the foremost New Testament scholars today. He's an Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of the Jesus Seminar, and emeritus professor at DePaul University. His research has focused on the historical Jesus, the theolo

Ep. 194 - Adam Elmasri ”Wounded by Faith”
Guest/Bio:This week I welcome Adam Elmasri! Adam is an Australian Egyptian free thinker, human rights activist, author, and content creator. He is widely recognized as a strong religious critic whose viewpoints are based on academic studies and as a supporter of the LGBTQ+ and women’s rights in the Middle East. As an author, Adam Elmasri has published two books and numberous articles on various to

Ep. 193 - Dr. Camden Morgante ”Recovering From Purity Culture” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women’s issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden combines her personal experience growing up in purity culture with her professional expertise in mind-body integrati

Ep. 192 - Dr. Camden Morgante ”Recovering From Purity Culture” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women’s issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden combines her personal experience growing up in purity culture with her professional expertise in mind-body integrati

Ep. 191 - Timothy Morton ”Hell: A Christian Ecology” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week we wrap up our conversation with the incredible Timothy Morton! Tim is a professor and Rita Shea Guffey Chair in English at Rice University. A member of the object-oriented philosophy movement, Morton's work explores the intersection of object-oriented thought and ecological studies. Morton's use of the term 'hyperobjects' was inspired by Björk's 1996 single

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Ep. 190 - Timothy Morton ”Hell: A Christian Ecology” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome the incredible Timothy Morton! Tim is a professor and Rita Shea Guffey Chair in English at Rice University. A member of the object-oriented philosophy movement, Morton's work explores the intersection of object-oriented thought and ecological studies. Morton's use of the term 'hyperobjects' was inspired by Björk's 1996 single 'Hyperballad'

Ep. 189 - Rabbi Shai Held: Judaism is About Love” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome back the amazing Rabbi Shai Held to talk all about his brand new book, "Judaism is About Love."Rabbi Held is a philosopher, theologian, and Bible scholar and the President and Dean at the Hadar Institute. He received the prestigious Covenant Award for Excellence in Jewish Education, and has been named multiple times by Newsweek as one of the fifty most influe

Ep. 188 - Rabbi Shai Held ”Judaism is About Love” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome the amazing Rabbi Shai Held to talk all about his brand new book, "Judaism is About Love."Rabbi Held is a philosopher, theologian, and Bible scholar and the President and Dean at the Hadar Institute. He received the prestigious Covenant Award for Excellence in Jewish Education, and has been named multiple times by Newsweek as one of the fifty most influential

Ep. 187 - Carrie Sheffield ”Motorhome Prophesies” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome back Carrie Sheffield for part 2 of our conversation on her brand new book.Carrie is a columnist & broadcaster in Washington, D.C. She is author of the bestselling book Motorhome Prophecies: A Journey of Healing and Forgiveness published by Hachette Book Group.A Senior Policy Analyst at Independent Women’s Forum, Carrie is a former White House reporter who earned

Ep. 186 - Carrie Sheffield ”Motorhome Prophesies” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome Carrie Sheffield!!! Carrie is a columnist & broadcaster in Washington, D.C. She is author of the bestselling book Motorhome Prophecies: A Journey of Healing and Forgiveness published by Hachette Book Group.A Senior Policy Analyst at Independent Women’s Forum, Carrie is a former White House reporter who earned a master’s in public policy from Harvard University, c

Ep. 185 - Tony Jones ”The God of Wild Places” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome back our friend Tony Jones for part 2 of our conversation! Tony is an outdoorsman, theologian, podcaster, and writer. He is the author of the new book The God of Wild Places and contributing writer to several outdoors periodicals. He’s written a dozen books, including Did God Kill Jesus? And The Sacred Way: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Life, developed the iPhone

Ep. 184 - Tony Jones ”The God of Wild Places” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome back our friend Tony Jones! Tony is an outdoorsman, theologian, podcaster, and writer. He is the author of the new book The God of Wild Places and contributing writer to several outdoors periodicals. He’s written a dozen books, including Did God Kill Jesus? And The Sacred Way: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Life, developed the iPhone app, hosts the Reverand Hunter

Ep. 183 - Anna Gazmarian ”Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome back Anna Gazmarian! Anna holds an MFA in creative writing from the Bennington Writing Seminars. Her essays have been published in The Rumpus, Longreads, The Sun, and The Guardian. We talk all about her brand new book, “Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” and her struggle with mental illness while growing up evangelical.Guest (Selected) Works:Devout: A Memoir of DoubtGuest Li

Ep. 182 - Anna Gazmarian ”Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome Anna Gazmarian! Anna holds an MFA in creative writing from the Bennington Writing Seminars. Her essays have been published in The Rumpus, Longreads, The Sun, and The Guardian. We talk all about her brand new book, “Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” and her struggle with mental illness while growing up evangelical.Guest (Selected) Works:Devout: A Memoir of DoubtGuest Links:h

Ep. 181 - Benjamin Laird ”The New Testament” pt. 2
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome back Dr. Benjamin Laird for the second part of our conversation! Dr. Laird serves as Associate Professor of Biblical Studies. He teaches a variety of courses in New Testament and Greek. He’s previously served in various capacities in the church including pastorates in Virginia and Scotland. His doctoral research examined the formation and circulation of the Pauline l

Ep. 180 - Benjamin Laird ”The New Testament” pt. 1
Guest/Bio:This week we welcome Dr. Benjamin Laird! Dr. Laird serves as Associate Professor of Biblical Studies. He teaches a variety of courses in New Testament and Greek. He’s previously served in various capacities in the church including pastorates in Virginia and Scotland. His doctoral research examined the formation and circulation of the Pauline letter collection in early Christianity.In par

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Ep. 179 - Doug Smith ”Growing up in a cult”
Guest Info/Bio:This week’s guest is comedian Doug Smith. Doug is a former Jehovah’s Witness who is searching for silver lining in growing up inside a doomsday cult. We talk about how his family got involved with the Jehovah’s Witnesses and what it was like to walk away. Check out Doug’s podcast: Jehovah Boy with Doug SmithGuest Website/Social Media: www.dougsmithcomedy.com Twitter, Instagram, Tik

Ep. 178 - Sarah Stankorb ”Disobedient Women” pt. 2
Guest Info/Bio:This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their liv

Ep. 177 - Sarah Stankorb ”Disobedient Women” pt. 1
Guest Info/Bio:This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their liv

Ep. 176 - Dr. Greg Garrett ”The Gospel According to James Baldwin” pt. 2
Guest Info/Bio:This week’s guest is Dr. Greg Garrett! Greg is a writer, speaker, musician, and professor. He’s the critically acclaimed author of over two dozen books of fiction and nonfiction including his latest, “The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity.” Greg studied at Oklahoma State University where he received his PhD in
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