Metrology Today Podcast
Metrology Today Podcast is the official podcast of Sine Calibration School. It keeps listeners up to date with news and developments inside the school. The show features special guests from the metrology community, offering insights into calibration and measurement science. Episodes cover a range of topics relevant to professionals in the field.
Episodes
Metrology Today Podcast Season 5 Launch - Stephen Puryear
Season 5, Episode 1: AI, Metrology, and the Limits of Automation
Metrology Today returns for Season 5 with guest Stephen Puryear joining Ryan and Henry for a practical discussion about artificial intelligence and its growing role in metrology, calibration, technical education, and laboratory operations.
The conversation examines both the value and the risks of AI. The group discusses inaccurate AI
MTP S4E10: Season 4 Finale
In this season finale of Metrology Today, Ryan and Henry wrap up Season 4 with a look back at the conversations, guests, and themes that defined the year — and a preview of what’s coming next.
This season featured consultants, assessors, industry leaders, and practitioners from across metrology, testing, manufacturing, and quality, covering topics including:
Accreditation and assessment realitie
Metrology Today Podcast S4E9: Paul Depmore
In this episode, Ryan and Henry welcome Paul Depmore for an in-depth discussion tracing his path from the U.S. Marine Corps into commercial and national-level calibration work. Paul shares how his experience evolved through Southwest Research Institute, Transcat, Morehouse, and Applied Technical Services, leading to later support of U.S. Navy calibration programs.
Key discussion points include:
Metrology Today Podcast S4E7: Jane Weitzel
Jane Weitzel has been working in analytical chemistry for over 40 years for pharmaceutical and mining companies. She was elected to the United States Pharmacopeia Council of Experts as chair of the 2020-2025 General Chapters–Measurement and Data Quality Expert Committee and is a member of the 2025-2030 EC Pharmaceutical Analysis Lifecycle and Data Science. She was a member of the USP 2015-2020 St
Metrology Today Podcast S4E6: Ryan Kelly
In this episode of Metrology Today Podcast, we sit down with Ryan “The Assessor” Kelly - a Marine Corps trained metrologist, seasoned assessor, and detail-driven industry professional. Ryan shares his journey from military calibration labs to private industry and assessment work, and explains why his no-nonsense approach to auditing is both feared and respected.
We discuss: The transition from mil
Metrology Today Podcast S4E5: Sandeep Nair, Metquay
On this episode of Metrology Today, we go global with Sandeep Nair, founder and CEO of Metquay, whose software is helping commercial calibration labs around the world break out of the Excel rut.
Sandeep’s story is unlike any other: He started as a computer scientist in India, found his way into calibration by chance, and wound up building a platform that empowers labs to create their own uncertain
Metrology Today Podcast S4E4: Greg Cenker, IndySoft
On this episode of Metrology Today, we’re joined by Greg Cenker—industry veteran, educator, and now a driving force at IndySoft—for a deep dive into the business and technical realities of running a calibration lab. Greg shares his path from the Marine Corps to aerospace, power, Fluke, SpaceX, and beyond, illustrating just how small (and interconnected) the metrology world really is. We discuss:
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Metrology Today Podcast S4E3: Rob Knake, NIST
Rob Knake is a professional specializing in quality systems, metrology, and standards development. He is actively employed with the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and involved with NCSL International, where he contributes to training, technical exchanges, and the advancement of measurement science. With expertise in ISO/IEC 17025, measurement traceability, and laboratory acc
Metrology Today Podcast S4E2: Galen Liao, MSC President 2025
Galen Liao is department manager of Engineering Asset Management for Northrop Grumman Corporation, a leader in global security.
Experience: Galen leads the company’s Engineering Asset Management (EAM) organization which supports program execution through the reuse of company resources via the test equipment pool and by providing top of the line calibrations. EAM is recognized as an industry le
Metrology Today Podcast S4E1: Patrick Jester
Patrick Jester is the visionary behind Blackthorn Consulting Group, Inc. in Baton Rouge, LA, where he delivers transformative quality management system and training solutions that convert knowledge into measurable success. As a Lead Assessor for ISO/IEC 17025 Calibration Laboratories and an ASQ Certified Quality Auditor, Patrick plays a pivotal role helping companies reach their strategic objectiv
Metrology Today Podcast S3E11: Season Finale - A reflection on the season
Join Henry and Ryan as they reminisce back on the fantastic guests of Season 3.
Metrology Today Podcast S3E10: Georgia Harris - NIST Ret.
Join us in this episode as we sit down with Georgia Harris, a seasoned expert with over 30 years of experience in U.S. Weights and Measures. Georgia’s career includes 5 years with the State of Minnesota and an impressive 28 years at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), where she made significant contributions before her recent retirement.
In our conversation, Georgia shares i
Metrology Today Podcast S3E9: Tony Hamilton
On today's episode we have Tony Hamilton, here is a little more information on Tony: Tony Hamilton has more than 20 years of experience in the metrology field. He received his technical training in the U.S. Navy as a nuclear qualified electronics technician. During his six-year stint, he served four years on the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69), qualifying as a reactor operator, shutdown reactor
Metrology Today Podcast S3E8: Under Pressure with Cees Veth
In this episode we have the pleasure of interviewing Cees Veth, a high pressure expert from the Netherlands! Now when we say Cees works with high pressure we mean it... he owns a deadweight standard that produces ~1625 MPa, or 235686.3 PSI!
In the episode we mention the Measure Magazine article featuring Cees. Unfortunately that article is no longer public, but we will update the description if
NCSL International Annual Preview with Mike Schwartz
The 2024 NCSL International Conference is coming up July 6th through 11th. Mike Schwartz from Cal Lab Magazine and Cal Lab Solutions joins us to chat about some of the activities, tutorials, and more!
Main page for the conference: https://ncsli.org/mpage/ws_2024
General Metrology Special - Decision Rules Panel
This is a special episode for our General Metrology course coming soon, but also for the release of a fantastic new guidance document on Decision Rules written by Henry Zumbrun, Greg Cenker, and Dilip Shah!
Download the document here: https://mhforce.com/decision-rule-guidance-book-download/
We are not doing a bio at the beginning of this episode because we have done another episode with each of
S3E5: Heather Wade
Heather A. Wade, ASQ-CCT, ASQ-CQA is a recognized metrology subject matter expert & internationally sought presenter. She excels at presenting useful and easy-to-implement practices. She is Editor of ASQ's Metrology Handbook, 3rd Edition. She is ASQ Measurement Quality Division's Immediate Past Chair. A graduate of University of Michigan with a B.S. in Biology, Heather has worked as a microbio
S3E4: Walter Nowocin - IndySoft, Co-Author of The ASQ Metrology Handbook
Walter Nowocin is the Life Sciences Product Manager for IndySoft Corporation. Walter works with development, marketing, and sales to ensure that IndySoft is optimized to support calibration quality systems in regulated industries while being compliant with FDA, GMP, and ISO requirements.
Walter has over 40 years of calibration experience with Medtronic, the world’s largest medical device manufactu
S3E3: Dawn Cross, NIST (Ret) and Tim Mason MSC 2024
The 2024 Measurement Science Conference is coming up this month March 25th - 28th at the Disneyland Hotel, Anaheim CA.
You can find more information at: https://annualconf.msc-conf.com/
Full Schedule: https://annualconf.msc-conf.com/full-event-schedule/
Register: https://web.cvent.com/event/9115288a-69d0-4245-91f4-327953be745c/regProcessStep1
Hotel Information: https://annualconf.msc-conf.com/h
S3E2: Charles Ellis and Howard Zion - NAPT
In this episode of the Metrology Today Podcast we have Charles Ellis and Howard Zion on the show to discuss the National Association for Proficiency Testing (NAPT) and proficiency testing in calibration.
Charles Ellis:
Mr. Ellis has over forty years of technical experience in the administration & maintenance of test equipment. Mr. Ellis is a former U.S. Army officer serving first as a calibrat
S3 E1: Paul Reese (Part 2)
Paul graduated from the University of Central Florida in 1993 with a Bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering.
He spent 18 years as a Metrologist working in the Primary Standards Laboratory at NASA's Kennedy Space Center.
In 2012, he left the aerospace world and joined the pharmaceutical industry where he currently manages the Standards & Calibration Laboratory at Abbvie in North Chicago.
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S3 E1: Paul Reese (Part 1)
Paul graduated from the University of Central Florida in 1993 with a Bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering.
He spent 18 years as a Metrologist working in the Primary Standards Laboratory at NASA's Kennedy Space Center.
In 2012, he left the aerospace world and joined the pharmaceutical industry where he currently manages the Standards & Calibration Laboratory at Abbvie in North Chicago.
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S2 E10: Mike Walsh and Troy Thomas - Essco Lab
This episode was recorded while I was on the road to Chelmsford, Ma in November 2022 when I got the opportunity to visit Essco Lab. In this interview I sit down with Mike and Troy to talk about many different calibration topics to include the current struggles that labs face when trying to find technicians to hire.
S2 E9: Danae Powell
Danae started her career in metrology in 1986 as a Test Measurement & Diagnostic Equipment (TMDE) Technician in the USMC. Her background includes the alphabet soup of regulated industries to including DOD, FCC, FDA, cGMP, DOE, FAA, SAE, IATF, and NRC.
Working in multiple industries and disciplines has
given her an opportunity to experience the field of metrology from many perspectives. She is pass
S2 E8: On the Road In Denver: Mike Schwartz
This episode was recorded on 10/5/2022 while Ryan was on the road in Denver, Colorado. Ryan sits down with Mike Schwartz of Cal Lab Solutions and Cal Lab Magazine to talk about many different calibration subjects.
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Metrology On Tap Live Show from the 2022 NCSLI Trip
Live show after hours from the backroom of the Hop and Sting Brewery in Grapevine, Tx. We have 8 or 9 special guests over this 2 and a half hour episode. Timestamps of guests will come over time.
S2 E6: Cubyt Team, Mike Brown and Michael Johnston
Today on the show we have the management team behind Cubyt: Mike Brown and Michael Johnston
Michael Johnston is the Software Portfolio Product Manager at Fluke. His extensive experience in calibration, metrology, measurement uncertainty and mathematical analysis was honed at Fluke, Northrop Grumman, SIMCO Electronics and the US Army over the past 15 years. He holds a BS in Applied Mathematics fr
S2 E5: Dilip Shah
Link Discussed in Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xu31rwbWu4
Dilip A. Shah has over 45 years of industry experience in metrology, electronics, instrumentation, measurement and computer applications of statistics in the Quality Assurance areas. He has been employed in various positions with Philips Electronics (UK), Kodak Ltd. (UK), Instruments Division of Monsanto Corporation, Flexsys
S2 E4: Stephen Puryear
On this episode we are excited to have Stephen Puryear on the show. Stephen has a long history in pharma metrology and is a very active member of the measurement community on LinkedIn. Stephen brings a creative and informative writing style that the metrology community desperately needs. Today we discuss topics of measurement uncertainty and measurement assurance with a focus on the differences th
S2 E3: Craig Glunt - Sapphire Proficiency Testing, A2LA Lead Assessor
Craig is the President/Owner of Sapphire Proficiency Testing where he is working to provide calibration and testing laboratories with solutions to meet the requirements of ISO/IEC-17025.
Craig has maintained a career in the Metrology field since 1997. His experience has been gained through working at top manufacturing companies like Mettler Toledo, Dell Computers and ENtek IRD/Rockwell Autom
S2 E2: Ginger Montes - Naval Surface Warfare Corona
In this episode we host Ginger Montes from Naval Surface Warfare Center Corona. Ginger is a certified CPI black belt and has led many kaizen events in labs. Today we talk about making positive changes in laboratory processes through lean (six sigma) principles in small steps. Ginger was a United States Marine calibrator, graduating in 2000 from the Marine and Navy school house in Biloxi, MS.
Epis
Season 2 kick-off LIVE show
This is a live broadcast introducing season 2 of our podcast! We will be sharing some of the statistics from the first season, reflecting on 2021 in general, and the future of our show.
Dan Sundberg - Sr. Metrology Engineer at Abbott
On this episode we talk with Dan Sundberg about the unique challenges of being a field service Metrologist and the need for experience when sending someone to a customer's location.
Dan began his career in the Navy where he learned metrology at Lowry AFB. He spent 20 years in the Naval metrology programs with career highlights as a Metrology Instructor for the Navy where he was recognized as the
Shawn Byrd - Technical Manager Tinius Olsen
On today's show we talk to Shawn Byrd the technical manager for Tinius Olsen Testing Machine Company.
As Technical Manager at Tinius Olsen, Shawn’s primary focus is on materials testing and the application of
various standards using different testing platforms to assist in the evaluation of materials and products. Shawn
has the responsibly at Tinius Olsen to ensure the personnel and internal proce
Industry Risk Concerns - Panel Discussion Part 3
This episode is part 3 of a panel discussion series talking about some of the most prevalent and concerning issues facing our industry today.
In this episode we are joined by Travis Gossman, Henry Zumbrun, and Greg Cenker enters the conversation.
Any comments, suggestions, or if you would like to be a guest on our show please contact us at information@sinecalibration.com
Industry Risk Concerns - Panel Discussion Part 2
This episode is part 2 of a panel discussion series talking about some of the most prevalent and concerning issues facing our industry today.
In this episode we are joined by Travis Gossman and Henry Zumbrun, then in follow on episodes Greg Cenker will join the conversation.
Any comments, suggestions, or if you would like to be a guest on our show please contact us at information@sinecalibrati
Industry Risk Concerns - Panel Discussion Part 1
This episode is part 1 of a panel discussion series talking about some of the most prevalent and concerning issues facing our industry today.
In this episode we are joined by Travis Gossman and Henry Zumbrun, then in follow on episodes Greg Cenker will join the conversation.
Any comments, suggestions, or if you would like to be a guest on our show please contact us at information@sinecalibrati
Temperature Calibrations with Thomas Harper
Thomas Harper joins us on the podcast today to discuss temperature measurements to kick off our 2021 Temperature Training Event. Thomas has been in metrology for over 20 years and has experience at Hart Scientific, Fluke in American Fork, Fluke in the Uk, and Fluke in the Netherlands as a leader in temperature measurements. Thomas has a B.S. in chemical engineering from the University of Utah and
Force Topics with Henry Zumbrun of Morehouse Force
Henry returns to talk about force measurement considerations, adapters, and risk. This episode kicks off our year of focusing on uncertainty and risk topics. If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, or topics please contact us at information@sinecalibration.com
Jeff Gust - Fluke Chief Corporate Metrologist
Jeff Gust is the Chief Corporate Metrologist for Fluke.
He has been an active member of the metrology community, writing and presenting numerous technical papers. He has developed quality and training documents for NIST and for the United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO). He has served as a consultant to several accreditation bodies and was an ISO/IEC 17025 assessor for 9 year
The Digital Transformation in Metrology
In today's podcast Mike Schwartz with Cal Lab Solutions joins us to talk about some of the large scale projects going on in the industry today. In this episode we discuss automation, digital certificates, measurement taxonomy and conferences.
The website we mention with the measurement taxonomy list is: https://www.metrology.net/home/metrology-taxonomy/
If you have more questions reach out to C
Don't wing it!
Today Henry Zumbrun, President of Morehouse Force joins us on our podcast talking about the history of Morehouse Force, force measurement considerations and the future of calibration.
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