
Progressively Incorrect
Progressively Incorrect is an education podcast that explores the tensions between teacher-centered and student-centered learning, as well as traditional and progressive approaches to teaching. Hosted by Dr. Zach Groshell, the show discusses practical and philosophical topics in pedagogy. It is published on educationrickshaw.com, where the host shares his insights on evidence-based teaching practices.
Episodes

S5E34: Anita Archer on the principles of explicit instruction
I’m thrilled to be sharing this special episode with you, the Season 5 Finale of Progressively Incorrect. I’m joined by Dr. Anita Archer, one of the most influential voices in explicit instruction and effective teaching. For decades, Anita has helped educators translate learning science into practical classroom routines that improve student success, and her work…

S5E33: Sean Morrisey on word mapping, vocabulary routines, and durable word knowledge
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Zach Groshell. In this episode, I’m joined by Sean Morrisey, creator of the Word Mapping Project, for a conversation about how students learn words—not just as spellings to memorize or definitions to recite, but as connected units of sound, spelling, and meaning. Sean spent eight years as…

S5E32: Doug Gray on Alaskan schools, bush teaching, and better systems for students
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Zach Groshell. I’ve always been fascinated by what teaching looks like in remote and challenging contexts. That interest goes back to my own time working in places like Sudan, where the namesake of this blog, Education Rickshaw, comes from. So when I was invited to present at…

S5E31: Katharine Beals on facilitated communication and educational pseudoscience
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Zach Groshell. Education is filled with myths. Some are harmless. Others shape curriculum, teacher training, intervention programs, and the lives of students for decades before anyone seriously asks whether they work. One of the reasons this podcast exists is to challenge those myths and examine the evidence…

S5E30: Sarah Oberle and Mitch Weathers on executive functions for K-3 classrooms
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Zach Groshell. Executive functioning has become one of the most frequently discussed topics in education, yet it remains one of the most misunderstood. Teachers are increasingly expected to help students manage attention, organization, memory, planning, and self-regulation, but questions remain about what these skills actually are, how…

S5E29: Owen Engelmann on field testing direct instruction programs
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I’m bringing you an episode from the Direct Instruction Podcast—one that I think anyone interested in instructional design, curriculum development, or evidence-based teaching will find fascinating. I’m joined by Owen Engelmann of Engelmann-Becker Corporation, the curriculum development organization founded by Siegfrie

S5E28: AJ Pettway on “student-centered learning,” instructional coaching, and school leadership
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Zach Groshell, and today we are talking about teaching, coaching, and the strange language of modern education. One phrase that comes up constantly in education is “student-centered learning.” It gets used so often, and so vaguely, that it’s started to mean almost everything and almost nothing at…

S5E27: Matt Bateman and Laura Mazer set the record straight on Montessori
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Zach Groshell, and today we are talking about Montessori. I’ll admit, I came into this conversation skeptical. Most of what gets sold as “Montessori” today is a watered-down, follow-your-bliss version of what Maria Montessori actually wrote. The popular caricature— that Montessori is a free-for-all where kids driftR

S5E26: Ste Robinson on mastery-based, knowledge-rich PE
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Zach Groshell, and today we are talking about…. PE! I’ll admit, I’ve often taken a dim view of PE as a subject. At its worst, it’s often just games and activities that don’t appear to build toward much, and that, frankly, could be led by someone without…

S5E25: Jamey Peavler on access vs. exposure and constrained vs. unconstrained skills
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show about the teacher-centered and the student-centered, the traditional and the progressive, in education. My guest today is Jamey Peavler, literacy leader and instructional expert focused on building coherent, science-aligned systems of reading instruction. Jamey has worked extensively with schools and districts to design and implement structured liter

S5E24: Olivia Mullins on content, curriculum, and coherence in elementary science
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I am you host, Zach Groshell. My guest today is Dr. Olivia Mullins, Founder and Executive Director of Science Delivered and lead developer of the Learning Squared science and literacy program. Olivia trained as a scientist before turning to elementary science education. She’s become one of the sharpest voices working…

S5E23: Richard Wheadon on teaching learning habits and returning to the classroom
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hachette Learning and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. My guest today is Richard Wheadon, author of the forthcoming book Teaching Learning Habits – How to Develop Independent and Successful Learners, to be published with Routledge. He blogs at Everything Pedagogy and writes…

S5E21: Inwood Academy Pioneers the Science of Learning
My name is Dr. Zach Groshell and welcome to my podcast! This season, I continue to explore the science of learning—especially what the work actually looks like when schools try to build their instructional models around it. We talk a lot about evidence-based practice in education, but far fewer conversations focus on how schools implement…

S5E20: Christopher Such on action steps for reading and the latest literacy debates
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hachette Learning and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. My guest today is Christopher Such, literacy expert, former primary teacher, and author of Primary Reading Simplified. Chris makes his epic return to the show to tackle several debates currently shaping reading instruction in…

S5E19: Leslie Laud on writing instruction and self-regulated strategy development
  Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. This season, I’ve been diving deeply into writing instruction — what the research actually says, where classroom practice often drifts, and what it truly takes to help students become confident, capable writers. Writing is one of the most cognitively demanding things we ask…

S5E18: Glenn Whitman and Ian Kelleher on bridging learning science and classroom reality
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. In this episode, I sit down with Ian Kelleher and Glenn Whitman of the Center for Transformative Teaching & Learning (CTTL). We began with the origin story of CTTL — how they set out to bridge mind, brain, and education science with real classroom…

S5E17: Femi Adeniran on explicit math instruction and coaching for better math teaching
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. In this episode, I’m joined by the always fabulous, Femi Adeniran, to continue a conversation that started when I appeared on the Beyond Good podcast about math, coaching, and instruction. We discuss: How to begin a maths lesson How not to begin a maths…

S5E16: Scott Jackson on summer camp
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. I’m your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. In this episode, I’m joined by Scotty Jackson to talk about how summer camp can create the experiences—and build the kinds of values—that help kids be better people: honesty, respect, responsibility, caring, and belonging. I’m not coming at this as a distant observer. I…

S5E15: Barbara Oakley on constructivism vs. learning science
In this episode, I sit down with Barbara Oakley—engineer, bestselling author, and one of the most influential voices in the science of learning—to talk about why so much instruction still misses the mark, what “good teaching” looks like when you take cognition seriously, and what’s at stake if we keep defaulting to methods that feel…

S5E14: Thinking out loud… what comes first in coaching, techniques or lesson design?
The “Thinking Out Loud” episodes on Better Teaching: Only Stuff That Works are a running set of conversations to make sense of instruction, coaching, and implementation as they actually function in schools—not as we wish they did. The premise is straightforward: Gene Tavernetti and I take a concrete problem of practice, name what tends to go wrong,…

S5E13: Mike Schmoker on how schools can get results now
Mike Schmoker is one of the most influential voices in school improvement, urging schools to recommit to the fundamentals: coherent curriculum, strong lesson design, and authentic literacy—reading, discussion, and writing—throughout the school day. Across books like Focus and Results Now 2.0, and decades of essays and commentary, his through-line is the same: schools don’t usually…

S5E12: Brian Poncy on better ways to teach math facts
In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Brian Poncy to explore a claim you’ve probably heard in schools: “Teaching math facts interferes with understanding.” From there, we dig into better ways to think about math facts, what schools can do differently, and the practical decisions that show up when schools decide to take facts…

S5E11: Alex Gingell on setting the culture and conditions for effective instructional coaching
In this episode, I sit down with Alex Gingell to unpack what it actually takes to make instructional coaching work in a school. Alex explains why his first priority wasn’t improving teaching, but stabilizing behavior, curriculum, and trust—and why coaching can only succeed once those foundations are secure. We talk through how he used Steplab…

S5E10: Laura Doherty on the Baltimore Curriculum Project
In this episode of the Direct Instruction podcast, I’m joined by Laura Doherty, President and CEO of the Baltimore Curriculum Project (BCP)—Maryland’s largest operator of neighborhood, PK–8 public charter schools, and one of the longest-running Direct Instruction networks in the United States. For nearly three decades, BCP has been quietly doing something that many systems…

S5E09: Marty Siegel on direct instruction engineering and the future of EdTech
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Marty Siegel, Professor Emeritus of Informatics and Instructional Systems Technology, and a pioneer whose career bridges early Direct Instruction, large-scale computer-based learning, human–computer interaction, and the emerging world of AI-driven instruction. Marty began his career at the University of Illinois in the 1960s, right at the&#

S5E08: Doug Lemov on “what to do” and active observation techniques
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m re-joined by Doug Lemov—author of Teach Like a Champion and The Coach’s Guide to Teaching, and one of the most influential figures in the history of education. Doug has spent decades studying what the best teachers do differently—turning the art and science of teaching into something that can…

S5E07: Denarius Frazier on belonging, rigor, and scaling effective teaching
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Denarius Frazier—Regional Superintendent of Instruction at Uncommon Schools, co-author of Reconnect: Building School Culture for Meaning, Purpose, and Belonging, and perhaps the best teacher ever captured on film. Denarius is one of the most thoughtful and influential voices in the Teach Like a Champion community, known…

S5E06: Jessica Colleu Terradas and Jon Owen on direct instruction without borders
In this podcast episode, I’m joined by Jessica Colleu Terradas and Jon Owen, two international leaders bringing Engelmann’s Direct Instruction to life in Australia and the UK. This marks a milestone in the Direct Instruction Podcast—our first global double feature exploring what high-fidelity DI looks like beyond the United States. Jessica, based in Australia, supports…

S5E05: Anna Stokke on where math education went wrong—and how to fix It
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Anna Stokke—mathematician, professor, and host of the Chalk & Talk podcast. Anna has become one of the most influential voices calling for a return to clarity, structure, and evidence in math instruction. We explore how her conversations on chalk & talk have shaped—and sometimes challenged—her own…

S5E04: Marcie Samayoa on NGSS and explicit science instruction
In this episode, I’m joined by Marcie Samayoa—science teacher, cognitive science enthusiast, and blogger of Scientists in the Making. Marcie shares the origin story behind her innovative classroom blog and explains how it grew out of a desire to make science learning more equitable, evidence-based, and joyful. We dive into some of the most persistent…

S5E03: John Mighton on building math confidence, one problem at a time
In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. John Mighton — mathematician, playwright, best-selling author, and founder of JUMP Math. John shares his insights into one of the most misunderstood concepts in education today—the belief that only some students are “math people”—and explains why dismantling this idea is essential for equity and achievement. As we explore…

S5E02: Linda Diamond and Paige Pullen on connecting learning, literacy, and instruction
In this powerful episode, I’m joined by two of the most influential voices in literacy education today—Linda Diamond and Paige Pullen. With decades of experience in education, Linda and Paige bring clarity to the evidence-based education movement and the science of reading in particular. Together, we dive into their framework of three interrelated sciences—Learning Science,…

S5E01: Greg Ashman on explicit teaching and inquiry learning
Welcome to Season 5 of Progressively Incorrect! In this special premiere episode, I’m joined by Greg Ashman, a leading advocate for explicit instruction and one of the most important voices in education today. We begin by analyzing a new video from Jo Boaler, where she casts “step-by-step instruction” as the villain in favor of an…

S4E39: Shawn Datchuk on teaching sentence construction with precision
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Dr. Shawn Datchuk, a leading researcher who’s helped shape how we think about sentence construction for struggling learners. Drawing from the literature on Precision Teaching and Direct Instruction, Shawn shares how timed practice and explicit strategies can accelerate mastery in writing, especially for students with learning…

S4E38: Nathan Lang-Raad on learning science and artificial intelligence
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Nathan Lang-Raad for a wide-ranging conversation that threads together two hot-button topics: artificial intelligence and the science of learning. There’s excitement everywhere—some even say AI will revolutionize teaching and learning. But are we getting ahead of ourselves? Nathan and I explore the real benefits AI can…

S4E37: John Tanner on tests, college, and cheating scandals
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I sat down with a personal friend whose work I deeply respect: John Tanner. His leadership in education has weathered storms—most notably, false accusations of cheating after huge gains in achievement were obtained at his school. But what shines through is his steadfast belief in the life-changing power of…

S4E36: Bonnie Grossen and Kurt Engelmann on full immersion direct instruction
In this episode of The Direct Instruction Podcast – cross-posted on Progressively Incorrect – I’m joined by Bonnie Grossen and Kurt Engelmann, two long-time advocates and practitioners whose work has shaped the real-world application of schoolwide Direct Instruction. After engaging conversations with both of them—on everything from implementation across diverse contexts to the role of…

S4E35: Stephanie Stollar, Diane Kinder, and Marcy Stein on MTSS and direct instruction
In this episode of The Direct Instruction Podcast – cross-posted on Progressively Incorrect – I’m joined by Stephanie Stollar, Diane Kinder, and Marcy Stein—three educators and researchers whose work intersects at the heart of effective instruction and systems-level change. After engaging conversations with each of them around Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS) and the role…

S4E34: Jonah Davids on the debates over restorative justice and SEL
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Jonah Davids. Jonah and I met while participating in a panel discussion around declining behavior in schools (listen here), which led me to invite him to discuss the evidence base behind Restorative Justice and Social-Emotional approaches in education. Are we on track or has there been…

S4E33: Peps Mccrea on great teaching and human flourishing
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am delighted to host Peps Mccrea, the Director of Education at Steplab and the mind behind the must-read online newsletter, Evidence Snacks. Peps has dedicated his career to improving education through evidence-based practices. His latest project includes Great Teaching, Unpacked, a Netflix-style documentary that is pushing the boundaries…

S4E32: Rachel Ball on scaffolded instruction and adaptive teaching
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am delighted to host Rachel Ball, Coaching Development Lead at Steplab and a passionate advocate for effective teaching based on the science of learning. Rachel will explore her new book, The Scaffolding Effect, and the Explicit Instruction Conference we are both keynoting in New Mexico (sign up here!).…

S4E31: Laura Stam on integrating explicit teaching practices into elementary classrooms
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m delighted to host Laura Stam, a dedicated advocate for the Science of Reading and Direct Instruction. Laura will share her expertise on designing and curating resources to integrate content and vocabulary into literacy, discuss new shifts in her thinking and teaching, and offer insights into how structured teaching…

S4E30: Ronak Bhatt on accelerated learning and homogeneous grouping
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m honored to host Ronak Bhatt, the accomplished founder and school leader of TELRA Institute. Ronak will discuss how acceleration can open doors for learners, share his thoughts on the benefits and challenges of homogeneous grouping, and provide insights into experimental educational models that offer bold alternatives to traditional…

S4E29: Rachel Sewell on the ingredients of effective professional development
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am delighted to host Rachel Sewell, Coaching Development Lead at Steplab and a passionate advocate for effective professional development. Rachel will explore the 14 mechanisms of effective professional development, including how they build knowledge, motivate educators, develop teaching techniques, and embed sustainable practices. Listen and subscribe

S4E28: Jonathan Regino on curriculum evaluation and math coaching
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am thrilled to host Jonathan Regino, an innovative educator and instructional leader known for his expertise in curriculum adoption and math coaching. Jonathan is passionate about enhancing teaching practices and fostering impactful math learning experiences. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on… SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress Jon

S4E27: Richard Mayer on the cognitive theory of multimedia learning
Today, I am thrilled to host Richard Mayer on Progressively Incorrect, a distinguished educational psychologist and researcher known worldwide for his groundbreaking contributions to understanding how we learn. Rich brings a wealth of knowledge and a sharp focus on multimedia learning, generative learning, and evidence-based critiques of discovery learning. Listen and subscribe to Progressively In

S4E26: Lynn Gaffney on bridging leadership and the science of learning
Today, I am thrilled to host Lynn Gaffney on Progressively Incorrect, a passionate educator and leader known for her deep commitment to bridging research and practice in schools. Lynn brings a wealth of experience and a sharp focus on the science of learning, using evidence-informed strategies to drive meaningful outcomes for students and teachers alike.…

S4E25: Daisy Christodoulou on assessment practices and challenges
Today, I am thrilled to host Daisy Christodoulou, an esteemed author and education expert renowned for her groundbreaking work on curriculum and assessment. Daisy’s thought-provoking insights have reshaped the way educators approach teaching, and her books, including “Seven Myths About Education,” have become essential reads in the field. In this episode, Daisy will delve into

S4E24: Randi Saulter and Ann Baum on DI in special education settings
Today I am excited to be bringing you an episode of the DI podcast with Randi Saulter and Ann Baum. Randi and Ann are two passionate special education teachers who will take us through what Zig Engelmann called the “picky, picky” details of implementing DI in special education classrooms. This episode is chock full of…

S4E23: Faith Borkowsky and Judy Boksner on “what’s hot” in literacy
Hi everyone, Zach Groshell here. Avid readers of my website will know that I was recently on a show called The Literacy View, which is also one of the podcasts in my listening rotation. It was with great excitement that I was able to snag hosts Judy and Faith for a very Literacy View episode…

S4E22: J.R. Wilson and Barry Garelick on engagement and conceptual teaching in math
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. Fans of my blogs might remember the interview series that J.R. Wilson and Barry Garelick provided around their book, Traditional Math. I’m excited to bring you the voices behind this common sense approach to math instruction. In our chat, we talk about a wide range of topics, including… 1. Breaking…

S4E21: Judith Hochman, Christine Teahan, andToni-Ann Vroom on the writing revolution
As we get closer to Spring, I am excited to be working with The Writing Revolution as part of my consultancy. The Writing Revolution, or TWR, is an explicit instruction approach to writing that was created by Dr. Judith Hochman. This method has been celebrated by proponents of cognitive science as a solution that adheres…

S4E20: Doug Carnine on advocacy for evidence
A few years ago, I came upon a paper titled, “Why Educators Resist Effective Practices” with the provocative subheading, And What It Would Take to Make EducationMore Like Medicine. It was written by Douglas Carnine, who I would come to learn was not only one of the most important voices in advocacy for evidence-based education,…

S4E19: Thinking out loud … is rehearsal necessary for effective coaching and PD?
I am excited to bring you an episode of the Thinking Out Loud series with my friend, Gene Tavernetti, who is cross posting these episodes on his podcast, Better Teaching Only Stuff that Works. During the episode, we talk about “rehearsal tasks”, which are simply practice opportunities that a coach or presenter can plan for teachers.…

S4E18: Blake Harvard on attention and memory constraints
In this episode, I chat with Blake Harvard, aka The Effortful Educator, about applying cognitive psychology to the classroom. Blake and I presented together as part of the cognitive science strand at EdFest USA this year, and we share similar perspectives on the importance of bridging the gap between research and practice. In this interview,…

S4E17: Kris Boulton on atomization, DI principles, and unstoppable learning
In this episode, I chat with Kris Boulton, a legend in the space of translating principles of Direct Instruction (DI) into actionable steps for all teachers. It is such a great episode, with some very powerful messaging around the crucial role of the teacher in conveying and breaking down information so that all students can…

S4E16: Natalie Wexler on knowledge, cognitive science, and beyond phonics
In this episode, I catch up with Natalie Wexler to discuss her new book, Beyond the Science of Reading. Our wide-ranging conversation covers often underrepresented areas of the science of reading, including the importance of background knowledge for comprehension, cognitive load theory, and explicit writing instruction. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple Podcast

S4E15: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on effective leadership
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress This is the…

S4E14: Kim Lockhart on supporting L2 learners with the science of reading
Today I am excited to bring you an interview with Kim Lockhart. Kim’s work focuses on the science of reading and its application in second language programs. She has been a vocal advocate on social media for moving away from balanced literacy and adopting evidence-based approaches to teaching reading. When I first encountered Kim, it…

S4E13: Catherine Thevenot on counting on your fingers
Should students be taught to count on their fingers? Today I am excited to bring you an interview with Catherine Thevenot. Catherine is a researcher at the Institute of Psychology at the University of Lausanne in Switzerland. Her work focuses on cognitive development, particularly in the area of numerical cognition and arithmetic skills in children.…

S4E12: Jan Hasbrouck on reading fluency and direct instruction
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. My name is Dr. Zach Groshell, and today I am excited to bring you an interview with Jan Hasbrouck, the keynote speaker at NIFDI’s 2025 National Direct Instruction Conference and Institutes. Dr. Hasbrouck is a renowned researcher and author with a distinguished career dedicated to improving literacy and educational outcomes. Dr.…

S4E11: Sally Bergquist on explicit writing lessons for K-2
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. This episode is a conversation between me and Sally Bergquist. Sally is an extremely talented and experienced teacher, and she recently challenged me to teach my child to write with her Engelmann-inspired writing program. It was an enormous pleasure to be able to…

S4E10: Nathaniel Swain, Steven Capp, and Katie Roberts-Hull on harnessing the science of learning
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. It is now Amazon’s newest BEST-SELLING book in education! Listen and…

S4E9: Thinking out loud … what is it like to be coached?
I am excited to bring you an episode of the Thinking Out Loud series with my friend, Gene Tavernetti, from his podcast, Better Teaching Only Stuff that Works. I am hosting a free instructional coaching webinar on November 25, 2024. Sign up here and join me and special guests to learn about Steplab’s platform and approach…

S4E8: Christopher Such on practical approaches to science of reading implementation
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress This episode is…

S4E7: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on coaching, culture and change
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress This is the…

S4E6: Robin Codding on fluency and strategies to support intervention implementation
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress Today I am…

S4E5: Steplab + Teach Like a Champion with Doug Lemov, Josh Goodrich, and Peps Mccrea
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress Today I am…

S4E4: Tamara Bressi on effective coaching for direct instruction
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress Today I am…

S4E3: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on the nuances of teaching effectively
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress In this episode…

S4E2: Rodrigo Lopez on putting principles into practice in Chile
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. In this episode, I catch up with Rodrigo Lopez to talk…

S4E1: Just Tell Them — The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress In this episode, me and my friend Gene Tavernetti catch up after a busy summer to talk about strategies for effective modeling from the new book,…

S3E21: Paul Kirschner on “Let’s Talk Evidence” and the latest debates over inquiry learning
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect and to the season 3 Finale of this podcast. In this final episode before I take a break for the summer, we are going out with a bang by bringing back one of the most respected and influential cognitive psychologists in the world, Paul Kirschner. Before we go over to…

S3E20: Casey Sovo on improving reading outcomes for indigenous students
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. This episode is the second of two DI podcast episodes that I am releasing this weekend ahead of the Progressively Incorrect Season 3 finale with Paul Kirschner. Progressively Incorrect is brought to you by John Catt Educational, which publishes some of the best books…

S3E19: Marcy Stein and Bernadette Kelly on direct instruction mathematics
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am excited to be bringing you the first of two DI podcast episodes that I will be releasing this weekend ahead of the Progressively Incorrect Season 3 finale with Paul Kirschner. My guests are DI mathematics experts Marcy Stein and Bernadette…

S3E18: Meg Lee and Jim Heal on evidence-informed practice at scale
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am thrilled to be speaking with Meg Lee and Jim Heal, two educators at the cutting-edge of evidence-based education. They’re going to be talking to us about the work they’re doing to scale the science of learning up and across this…

S3E17: Scott Hill on evidence-informed school leadership
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am very excited to be speaking with Scott Hill, the Superintendent of Evergreen School Division in Manitoba, Canada. We will be talking about evidence-informed school leadership, including the shift that Evergreen has made towards a science of reading based curriculum, and…

S3E16: Haili Hughes on tools and structures for effective coaching
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am very excited to be speaking with Haili Hughes as part of my ongoing inquiry into instructional coaching approaches. If you’re a leader or instructional coach yourself, be sure to check out previous instructional coaching episodes of Progressively Incorrect, such as the…

S3E15: Corey Peltier on scientifically informed math interventions
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am very excited to be speaking with Corey Peltier as part of my ongoing obsession into how we teach math. If you haven’t already, I recommend checking out the hugely popular Science of Math episode I recorded a few months ago…

S3E14: Stephanie Stollar on structured literacy that is truly responsive
My guest today is literacy expert, Stephanie Stollar. Stephanie is one of my go-to sources for science of reading insights because of her ability to break down technical and complex topics and turn them into actionable steps for practitioners. I will be talking with Stephanie about the misconceptions that surround MTSS, or the multi-tiered system…
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