
Bowie Book Club Podcast
Two longtime friends have run a book club for years, originally as an excuse to drink and gossip. After David Bowie's death in January 2016, they found renewed purpose and decided to seriously read through the books he loved. This podcast documents their journey through Bowie's personal reading list, blending literary discussion with their enduring friendship. It's a heartfelt tribute to Bowie's intellectual legacy.
Episodes

Basquiat - The Notebooks
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Basquiat - The Notebooks edited by Larry Warsh - just like the ones you used in grade school, but probably worth a lot more!

Cheap Novelties by Ben Katchor
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Cheap Novelties by Ben Katchor about one man's eternal search for Herbert Water, or a Grape Bosphorus, at least. All you have is cans?

The Immoralist by Andre Gide
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Immoralist by Andre Gide, about a guy who spends a lot of time telling his friends how immoral he is. Almost as good as Maldoror!

The Last Temptation of Christ by Nikos Kazantzakis
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Last Temptation of Christ by Nikos Kazantzakis, which turns out to be more than just a vehicle for the majestic acting of Harry Dean Stanton!

Grendel by John Gardner
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read a book about a muppet (?) monster and his tour of the philosophical hot spots, Grendel by John Gardner.

The Savage Detectives by Roberto Bolano
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Savage Detectives by Roberto Bolano - a far-ranging tome about poets who never seem to write any poetry, but do a lot of other crazy stuff.

Wolf Hall by Hillary Mantel
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel, which tells the tale of arch-fixer Thomas Cromwell without a mention of turkey legs.

The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. LeGuin
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. LeGuin, a story of hot beer and cold nights (and many, many other more important themes and ideas!)

The Medium is the Massage by Marshall McLuhan
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Medium is the Massage by Marchall McLuhan, a stew of images, aphorisms and (maybe unfounded?) optimism that will loosen up those tired media muscles.

Diary of a Drug Fiend by Aleister Crowley
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Diary of a Drug Fiend by Aleister Crowley, which (much to our surprise) is not Chronicles of Narnia fan-fic despite the appearance of a Big Lion who solves everything. Also features drugs that are fiended after throughout.

The Spear of Destiny by Trevor Ravenscroft
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read (or maybe just encountered on the Astral Plane?) The Spear of Destiny, Trevor Ravenscroft's minimally factual tale of the occult and its hallucinatory hold on Adolf Hilter.

Backstage Passes by Angela Bowie
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books hasreigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Backstage Passes by Angie Bowie, a tell-all that includes flying saucers, devil-haunted pools, and John Bonham's breakfast. Oh, and David Bowie too.

Egon Schiele - The Paintings
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Egon Schiele - The Paintings, a collection of works by a very proflic narcissist who packed a lot of splayed figures and elongated fingers into his brief life!

The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis, a story of large glasses of gin, otherworldly chemistry and, why not, fake eyebrows too.

The Gift by Vladimir Nabokov
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Gift by Vladimir Nabokov, a multi-level marketing scheme to get you into an emigre's state of mind.

Nova Express by William Burroughs
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books hasreigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Nova Express (https://bookshop.org/a/105/9780802122087) by William Burroughs - maybe it's science fiction? Maybe it's a spell to thwart mind control ? Maybe it's just not meant to be read?
Dancing in the Streets by Barbara Ehrenreich
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Dancing in the Streets by Barbara Ehrenreich, a survey about how people have collectively let their hair down over the past few centuries.

Strangers on a Train by Patricia Highsmith
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Strangers on a Train by Patricia Highsmith, which is about how awful it was to travel before you could use noise-canceling headphones to eliminate any possibility of getting into a conversation with someone about murder.

The Flamethrowers by Rachel Kushner
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Flamethrowers by Rachel Kushner, which turns out to be about much more than Iggy Pop's satin pants.

The Idiot by Fydor Dostoevksy
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoevsky, which suprisingly ISN'T about Iggy Pop!

The Buddha of Suburbia by Hanif Kureishi
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Buddha of Suburbia by Hanif Kureishi, which might be the most Bowie of the Bowie books we've read so far, in some ways.

Dead Souls by Nikolai Gogol
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Dead Souls by Nikolai Gogol a picaresque novel of a grifter being grifty in Old Russia.

Hollywood Babylon by Kenneth Anger
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Hollywood Babylon a cruel and carnal compilation of old Hollywood tragedies written by Kenneth Anger, who apparantly shares our disdain for thorough research!

Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Roadside Picnic by Boris and Arkady Strugatsky, a hard-boiled story of mysterious realms, stiff drinks and super-powered artifacts. Apologies for the jingling sounds in the background - we had a very active feline collabora

Psychic Self-Defense by Dion Fortune
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read a book mostly about
conferences on the astral plane, Psychic Self-Defense by Dion Fortune.

Orlando by Virginia Woolf
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Orlando by Virginia Woolf, a book that essentially proves that David Bowie and Tilda Swinton are one person.

A Grave for a Dolphin by Alberto Denti (and the end of Season One!)
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read (sort of) A Grave for a Dolphin by Ally Teeth (or Alberto Denti, Duke of Pirajno, if you must), a story about a manic pixie dream fish and the marine biologist (at least that's what AI thinks) who loved her.

Zanoni by Edward Bulwer-Lytton
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Zanoni by Edward Bulwer-Lytton, an overheated occult pot-boiler that manages to keep the hot esoteric gobbletygook flying for over 400 pages! Spoiler alert: Greg wrote this description and it may (does) not reflect the view

Nowhere to Run by Gerri Hirshey
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Nowhere to Run by Gerri Hirshey - interviews with foundational artists of soul music asthey deal with aging, and (in the case of Screaming Jay Hawkins) serve drinks out of a skull or something.

Private Eye
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read Private Eye, a half-serious, half-silly
British political magazine that is the ultimate i IYKYK.

Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler, a tale
of human pyschology under duress that makes a fitting end to the Russian
books that Bowie had on his list.

The Hidden Persuaders by Vance Packard
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Beyond the Brillo Box by Arthur C. Danto
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Beyond the Brillo Box by Arthur C. Danto - if you like art, philosophy and the philosophy of art, you might get through this a little easier than we did.

Strange People by Frank Edwards
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Strange People by Frank
Edwards, a rundown of all the freaks, geeks and mentalists you'll ever want
to encounter.

Writers at Work by the Paris Review
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book
Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite
books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time weread Writers at Work: The
First Series, a compendium of inter

Last Exit to Brooklyn by Hubert Selby, Jr

The Beano
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Beano, a British comic that has been teaching the fundamenta

The 42nd Parallel by John Dos Passos
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read we read The 42nd Parallel by John Dos Passos, a big sweeping tale of America at the turn of the 20th century, including getting chased by a farmer with a shotgun, which happened all the time back then.

Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for strawsabout Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read Lady Chatterly's Lover by D.H. Lawrence,
which has *all* the bowels and loins anyone could ask for.

Infants of the Spring by Wallace Thurman
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Infants of the Spring by Wallace Thurman - if you're a fan of gin n' ginger ale or of extremely stylized dialog, you're going to love this one.

Fingersmith by Sarah Waters
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White Noise by Don DeLillo
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read White Noise Don DeLillo, a
very funny, very timely book about death, among other concerns.

A People's Tragedy by Orlando Figes
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read a doorstop of a history of the Russian Revolution: Orlando Figes' "A People's Tragedy".

Mr. Wilson's Cabinet of Wonders by Lawrence Weschler
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Mr. Wilson's Cabinet O'
Wonders by Lawrence Weschler, a short, sharp treatise on a weird, weird
museum.

In Bluebeard's Castle by George Steiner
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read In Bluebeard's Castle by
George Steiner - an eccentric polymath, kind of like a certain David Jones
we all know. Plus, T.S. Eliot impersonations!

Room at the Top by John Braine
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read Room at the Top by John Braine, about an
angry young man in a dirty old town.

On the Road by Jack Kerouac
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read On the Road by everyone's
high school boyfriend, Jack Kerouac. We also talk about the new Bowie
documentary Moonage Daydream, which we just saw IN A MOVIE THEATRE
*shudder*!

The Leopard by Giuseppe di Lampedusa
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read we read The Leopard by Giuseppe di Lampedusa,
a slow, stately book about a very hot island a long time ago.

The Coast of Utopia by Tom Stoppard
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Coast of Utopia by Tom Stoppard - a play where a lot happens just off stage and there's a lot of talking about thinking.

In Between the Sheets by Ian McEwan
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read In Between the Sheets, a kind-of-sort-of creepy book of short stories by Ian Mcewan.

Flaubert's Parrot by Julian Barnes
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read a book of literary criticism/history about Gustave Flaubert that (suprise!) turns out to be a novel that's not really about a bird at all (or is it?) - Flaubert's Parrot by Julian Barnes

Money by Martin Amis
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Money by Martin Amis - the literary equivalent of watching someone fall down thousands of flights of stairs and wondering why you're laughing so hard.

Awopbopaloobopalopbamboom by Nik Cohn
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Awopbopaloobop (or something like that) a intensely jaded look at the first couple decades of rock music from legendary writer Nik Cohn.

The Iliad by Homer
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Tales of Beatnik Glory by Ed Sanders
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read a series of connected stories circling the
post-beat, pre-hippie world of Lower Mahattan in Tales Of Beatnik Glory by
Ed Saunders. Join us for a hour or two at the Total Assault Cantina!

Our 2022 Books
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1984 by George Orwell
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read George Orwell's classic work of numerology, 1984.

The Quest for Christa T
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read The Quest For Christa T by Christa Wolf, a
melancholy elegy that really got on the wrong side of the East German
censors, for some reason.

The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read The Master And Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov,
one of our favorites on the list - a fairy tale that careens through the
Moscow of the 1920's, and is otherwise impossible to describe accurately.

On Having No Head by D.E Harding
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read On Having No Head by Douglas Harding, a slender guidebook to quick and painless enlightenment.

The Stranger by Albert Camus
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we sat in a cafe, drinking free refill after free refill, perfected our looks of total ennui and read The Stranger by Albert Camus

Vile Bodies by Evelyn Waugh
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read
Vile Bodies by Evelyn Waugh, a careening comic novel of doomed romance, never ending parties and rotating gossip columnists.

English Journey by JB Priestly
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read English Journey by J.B. Priestley, a gripping tale of a grump making his way around England in the dour `30s.

Tadanori Yokoo
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read a book (though probably not
the right book) about the incredibly prolific Japanese artist and graphic
designer Tadanori Yokoo.

Hall's Dictionary of Subjects and Symbols in Art
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Mini Episode! How To Read a Dictionary
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we attempted to cobble together a plan to read Hall's Dictionary of Subjects and Symbols in Art by James A. Hall.

Interviews with Francis Bacon by David Sylvester
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Interviews with Francis
Bacon, a beautifully constructed cut and paste job from the noted art
critic David Sylvester.

The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild
speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has
reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Great Gatsby by F. Scott
Fitzgerald, a jazzy tale of the very American art of self-invention.

Mystery Train by Greil Marcus
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Mystery Train, Griel Marcus' expansive summation of rock music as American culture.
Apologies for the weird clicking noise that sounds like its coming from Greg's mandibles (he forgot to wax them) - we'll have the audio hic

Our Books for 2021!
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club* where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we chose our books for 2021, in the great outdoors
(and in our typical shambolic fashion)

Journey Into the Whirlwind by Eugenia Semyonovna Ginzburg
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Journey Into the Whirlwind by Eugenia Ginzburg, a memoir of one incredibly strong woman's survival in Stalin's Reign of Terror.

The Street by Ann Petry
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Street by Ann Petry, a harsh but gripping tale, which **almost** led to the worst song choice in the history of this podcast.
A People's History of the United States
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club* where wild speculation
and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme
since 2016. This time we read A People's History of the United States by
Howard Zinn, who's not really down with the SYSTEM, MAAAAAAN.

Teenage by Jon Savage
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club* where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Teenage by Jon Savage and you JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE FEELING ABOUT IT OK? /slams bedroom door/

The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club* where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark, which is really not like Dead Poets Society at all.

Black Boy by Richard Wright
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read Black Boy, Richard Wright's searing story of growing up in the Jim Crow south and his further self-education as a young man in Chicago and his further self-education as a young man in Chicago.

The Life and Times of Little Richard by Charles White
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read The Life and Times of Little Richard - the Authorized Biography by Charles "Dr. Rock" White, which contains lots of scatalogical pranks, sermons and stories of debauchery from one of the wildest voices ever. Rock and ro

Sexual Personae by Camille Paglia
Welcome to another episode of the Bowie Book Club, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read
Sexual Personae by Camillia Paglia, which left us feeling a bit...cthonic.

The Waste Land by T.S. Eliot
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McTeague by Frank Norris
Welcome to another episode of the **Bowie Book Club**, where wild speculation and grasping for straws about Bowie’s favorite books has reigned supreme since 2016. This time we read McTeague by Frank Norris, which is surprisingly not about a rogue cop who's always getting kicked off the force and reinstated because he's just too damn good out on those streets. Apologies for the sound quality - we'r
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