Strange Loop Podcast
A podcast featuring in-depth conversations with thinkers and researchers at the frontier of artificial intelligence and human understanding. Hosted by Joel Hellermark, each episode explores how AI is reshaping knowledge, science, and society. The show aims to bridge cutting-edge machine learning with broader questions about intelligence and meaning.
Episodes
Tyler Cowen | AI will change everything, just not all at once
AI is advancing at extraordinary speed. Yet Tyler Cowen thinks the transformation of the economy will be slower, messier, and more human than most forecasts suggest. Intelligence may be cheaper than ever, but will organizations, workers, regulators, and institutions learn how to use it? In this episode of Strange Loop, Tyler joins Sana founder Joel Hellermark to discuss why AI productivity is stil
Ethan Mollick | The long way is the shortcut: experiments over AI playbooks
AI can now pass Olympiad exams and run hours‑long tasks, yet still fumbles basic questions and blows up office workflows. Ethan Mollick calls this the “jagged frontier” and argues that understanding it is the new job of every leader.In this Strange Loop episode, Ethan and Lauren Crichton dig into agents at work, the quiet death of entry‑level jobs, and why embracing AI’s weirdness, rather than for
Anton Osika | On building Lovable: AI for the 99%
Lovable founder and former Sana engineer Anton Osika joins Joel Hellermark to share how the most successful AI tools of today are turning non‑developers into product builders and million‑dollar founders. They dig into the origins of Lovable, the coming “SaaSpocalypse” for SaaS, and why the real differentiator now is taste, problem selection, and designing software that feels good to use. If you th
David Deutsch | AGI, the origins of quantum computing, and the future of humanity
David Deutsch is the founding father of quantum computing. In this episode of Strange Loop, David joins Sana’s founder and CEO Joel Hellermark and Spotify’s Co-President Gustav Söderström to unpack his lifelong quest to explore the furthest reachings of human understanding. Together, they explore how knowledge creation makes humans unique in the cosmos, why current AI systems fundamentally differ
Episode Preview | David Deutsch
The founding father of quantum computing David Deutsch sits down with Spotify's Co-President Gustav Söderström and Sana's founder and CEO Joel Hellermark at David's home in Oxfordshire to discuss the nature of knowledge, creativity, AGI, and what truly makes humans unique in the universe.Subscribe to get the full episode as soon as it launches.
Garry Kasparov | Lessons from chess in an AI world
Garry Kasparov knows what it means to play at the edge of human potential. In this episode of Strange Loop, the legendary chess champion and human rights advocate joins Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark to explore how chess became the proving ground for AI, why intuition and creativity still matter, and what happens as machines begin to outpace their creators.Together, they dive into the psycho
Andrew Ng | Why AI coding is the new literacy
This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting.Most people think of AI as a tool for experts and big tech. Andrew Ng argues that the real revolution begins when “AI coding is the new literacy”—and building AI moves from the hands of a few "high priests" to everyone.In this archival episode of Strange Loop, AI pion
Jensen Huang | Building the teams behind the world’s fastest AI
This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting.NVIDIA founder and CEO Jensen Huang reveals the leadership philosophies and management practices that have made NVIDIA a powerhouse of AI and accelerated computing.Jensen discusses why first-principles thinking is at the core of his decision-making, how he shapes comp
Max Tegmark | What we can’t ignore in the AI revolution
This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting.MIT physicist and AI researcher Max Tegmark shares his bold perspective on the promises, risks, and mysteries at the heart of today’s AI revolution.Max discusses how his journey from studying the universe to exploring the human mind shapes his unique approach to artif
Daphne Koller | How machine learning could save millions of lives
This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting.Daphne Koller—AI pioneer, founder of Coursera, and CEO of Insitro—sits down with Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark to explore the groundbreaking intersection of digital technology, scientific discovery, and human health.In this episode of Strange Loop, Daphne share
Geoffrey Hinton | Rethinking AI’s power and limits
This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting.Hear the Godfather of AI Geoffrey Hinton reflect on the journey from the early days of neural networks to today’s breakthroughs in artificial intelligence, sharing unique insights from decades of pioneering research.Discover why Hinton believes that scaling up AI mode
Ethan Mollick | How to build an AI-first organization
Most companies are using AI to cut costs. Ethan Mollick argues that the biggest mistake companies make is thinking too small.In the first episode of Strange Loop, Wharton professor and leading AI researcher Ethan Mollick joins Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark for a candid and wide-ranging conversation about the rapidly changing world of AI at work.They explore how AI is not just an efficiency
Episode Preview: Ethan Mollick
Most companies are using AI to cut costs. Ethan Mollick argues they’re missing the bigger opportunity.In this episode preview from Strange Loop Podcast, Ethan explains the strategic crossroads AI creates for every business: Use AI to do more with fewer people or use it to scale ambition and build something transformative.This clip is a glimpse into a bigger conversation with Sana's founder and CEO
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