
The Hook Podcast
The Hook Podcast takes listeners into the world of country music songwriting. Hosts Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner interview Nashville songwriters about the stories behind hit songs. Each episode explores the creative process and inspirations that shape the music. It offers an insider look at how country songs are made.
Episodes

Jerry Flowers | 20 Years Play Bass with Keith Urban + Writing “House Party,” “Kinfolks” & More
Jerry Flowers joins The Hook Podcast to share stories from his 20-year run as Keith Urban’s touring bass player and life on the road with The Chicks and Counting Crows.We also dive into the songwriting side — including how he helped create hits like “House Party,” “Kinfolks,” “Outskirts,” and “Raised On It” with Sam Hunt, “Do I Make You Wanna” with Billy Currington, and songs recorded by Dustin Ly

Logan Mize | 20 Years of Songs, “Who Didn’t,” “Better Off Gone” and Touring the Country in a Chevy Wagon
Country singer-songwriter Logan Mize joins The Hook Podcast to reflect on his 20-year journey in Nashville, the stories behind fan favorites like “Who Didn’t,” “Better Off Gone,” and “Grew Apart,” and what he’s learned along the way. Logan also talks about his upcoming tour in his Chevy station wagon, new music on the way, and what this next chapter of his career looks like.🎙️ Hosted by Brailey Jo

Seth Ennis | Writing “Amen” for Shaboozey & Jelly Roll + The Stories Behind Dylan Scott’s “Hooked” and more!
Songwriter and artist Seth Ennis joins The Hook Podcast to talk about his new hit “Amen” for Shaboozey and Jelly Roll. Seth shares the wild story of how he came up with the idea for Dylan Scott’s smash “Hooked,”. The story behind his latest viral hit, "See Through" with The Band Camino. Seth also talks about writing with Ashley Cooke, Dylan Marlowe, and more.🎙️ Hosted by Brailey Jones and Kevin Ki

Christian Yancey | Ole Miss Athlete Turned Nashville Songwriter for Josh Ross & Austin Snell
Nashville songwriter Christian Yancey joins The Hook Podcast to share his journey from hurdler at Ole Miss to writing songs for artists like Josh Ross and Austin Snell. Christian talks about how “Hate How You Look” found its way to Josh Ross, and how it almost didn't even get written. The stories behind some of his favorite co-writes, and his dream writing session with HARDY.🎙️ Hosted by Brailey J

Heath Warren | Writing for Bailey Zimmerman, Josh Ross, Nate Smith & Chase Rice
Songwriter, Heath Warren joined the show and talked about how special it is that his hit, “Rock and a Hard Place” continues to be a massive song. Warren also talked about what it’s like writing songs for Bailey Zimmerman and the journey that he’s been on. Warren also mentioned how exciting it is to have a song on Madden 26.

Ben Johnson: Star of Netflix’s “Hitmakers”, songwriter for Morgan Wallen, Jelly Roll, & More
Songwriter Ben Johnson joined Brailey and Kevin and talked about being part of the cast of Netflix’s new hit show “Hitmakers.” Ben also talked about what it was like writing a No. 1 song for Jelly Roll as well as “Bar None” for Jordan Davis. Ben also broke down how songs that were cut by Morgan Wallen, Dustin Lynch, and Bailey Zimmerman came together.

Ben Williams: Writing for Megan Moroney, Bailey Zimmerman & More
On the 100th episode of The Hook Podcast, Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner are joined by songwriter Ben Williams. The fellas talked with Ben about his hit songs with Megan Maroney. What’s it like having a song that features Kenny Chesney? Ben also talked about releasing a new song with Walker Hayes and Kane Brown.

Whats really going on with The Hook Podcast?
Brailey and Kevin are back to tell you all about where they have been and what's really going on with the podcast, including a big announcement.

2024 Year in Review
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner recapped the year of country music and concerts they attended this year. The guys talked about their favorite moments and songs from 2024!

Dylan Marlowe Album Reaction Special
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones reacted and broke down Dylan Marlowe's new album, "Mid-Twenties Crisis." The guys talked about their favorite songs from the album.

Rascal Flatts Reunite
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner reacted to the news of Rascal Flatts getting back together as they get ready to tour once again. Kissner talked about how much Rascal Flatts impacted country music. The guys closed out the show having a song draft of their favorite Rascal Flatts songs.

Post Malone Album Reaction Special (Long Bed)
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones are back to react to the second set of songs that Post Malone dropped on his "Long Bed" edition of "F-1 Trillion." The guys discussed which songs they liked the best and which songs they think could impact country radio immediately.

Post Malone Album Reaction Special
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner gave their initial reactions to Post Malone's first ever country music album, "F-1 Trillion." The fellas discussed what they like about the collaborations on the album and what Post Malone means to the country music world.

Krista Lynn Meadow
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones were joined by Krista Lynn Meadow, inside the legendary Grizzly Rose. Krista who on a rise in the country music scene. Krista talked about her journey growing up in Tennessee and getting into music. She also talked about touring and new music she has on the way.

Patriotic Song Draft
With it being the day after the 4th of July, Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones had their own draft of patriotic songs. The fellas also gave their recap of attending Morgan Wallen's show in Denver.

Songs That Were Near Misses
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner are back and recapped a big concert that went down in Denver that they were apart of. The fellas then broke down songs that just missed the cut of being No. 1 songs on country radio. What songs should've been No. 1s in their hearts?

Creating the Greatest Country Album
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner sat down and each created their own "All-Time Greatest Hits" country album for someone who is just getting into country music. Does Garth Brooks and Morgan Wallen make an appearance?

Sam Hunt's Impact on Country Music
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner sit down and talked about how great country music was in 2014. The guys also broke down how impactful Sam Hunt has been in the country music world!

Episode 85 - Forgotten Bangers
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner caught up with the national holidays and held a draft of some of the biggest country songs that might’ve been forgotten in recent years. The fellas also broke down the latest news on country music on Music Row. The guys talked about some tours that they’re excited about including Dan + Shay’s!
Check out our Forgotten Bangers Playlist here!! - https://open.spotify.c

Episode 84: Toby Keith Tribute and Grammy Awards Recap
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones kicked off their new show with a discussion on Toby Keith and how much he impacted country music. The fellas held a draft by picking their favorite songs from Keith. The guys also recapped the Grammy's and Kissner goes off on what's wrong with the award show. The duo also breaks down the latest music in the country music scene.

Episode 83: Robyn Ottolini
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones were joined by artist and singer, Roby Ottolini. Robyn talked about her journey from Canada to Nashville and how social media helped her get discovered in America. The Canadian star broke down her songs, "F-150" and "Sick of Sex." Could we see a collaboration coming with Robyn and another female super star artist in the near future?

Episode 82: 2024 Artists to Watch
Discover your new favorite music acts on this week's episode of The Hook Podcast as we reveal our 2024 Artists to Watch!
Brailey and Kevin have put together an in-depth look at 10 of the most promising up-and-coming artists we think are destined for huge things in 2024.
This year's list is Dylan Marlow, Robyn Ottolini, Renee Blair, Graham Barham, Faren Rachels, Rotundo, Josh Ross, Restless

Episode 81: Cody Cozz
This week on The Hook Podcast Cody Cozz an up-and-coming singer-songwriter originally from Colorado who now calls Nashville home joined Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones! Cody shares his musical journey with us, and teaches himself to play guitar. Cozz also told a crazy story about getting advice from a country music legend who helped lead the way to where he is today. The Colorado native explained

Episode 80: Best Moments of 2023
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones broke down their favorite moments of the podcast in 2023. The fellas replayed a hilarious clip on James McNair being part of a writer's round with Sam Hunt. The guys also heard from Ben Williams on on Megan Maroney's "Tennessee Orange" came to be. Andy Albert, Blake Pendergrass, and Josh Phillips also tell stories in this episode as well.

Episode 79: Top 10 Albums of 2023
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner broke down their top 10 country albums of 2023 that include albums from Dan+Shay, Ella Langley, Hardy and more!

Episode 78: Top 5 Songs of 2023
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones broke down and gave their top five songs that are not the most popular top five songs of 2023. Hardy and Jelly Roll all make appearances in this episode. Kissner also explained why a certain Dustin Lynch song is the best written song of the year.

Episode 77: Ashley Gorley Song Draft
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner held their own Ashley Gorley song draft. The fellas each picked their top 10 songs that Gorley has written from Morgan Wallen to Dylan Scott to Carrie Underwood.

Episode 74: Underrated Country Songs
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones broke down some of the most underrated country songs in recent years. Is there a Garth Brooks song that might be underrated?

Episode 72: Hardy Song Draft
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones broke down some of the best songs that Hardy has ever written. The fellas held a draft and selected their top-10 Hardy songs and why they loved them as well as telling some stories behind those songs.

Episode 69: Jamie Collazo
Kevin and Brailey sit down with Jamie Collazo (@tattoosandtone), an ESPN audio producer turned Nashville's sought-after hired gun guitarist. Jamie has rocked the stage with talents like Chase Matthew, After Midtown, and Sean Stemaly, and he's not just about the guitar; he's a gifted songwriter and producer. In this episode, we dive into the exciting life of a Nashville hired gun, shari

Episode 68: Why Country Music Needs Radio
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones reacted to Eric Church's latest comments about country radio in today's world. The fellas pulled the curtain back and explained why artists need the radio and how music is impacted by country radio.

Episode 67: Dustin Lynch Album Reaction Special
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner broke down Dustin Lynch's brand new album, "Killed The Cowboy." The fellas break down all 12 songs and nerd out on plenty of lyrics and sounds from the album. The guys also explained which song was their favorite and is there a song of the year candidate?

Episode 66: Dan + Shay Album Reaction Special
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones reacted and broke down Dan + Shay's newest album, "Bigger Houses." The fellas named their favorite songs and talked about how this album couldn't have worked for the duo a few years ago.

Episode 63: Songs That Influenced Country Music
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner broke down and had a draft on their top 10 songs, since 2000, that have influenced country music. The fellas will discuss the impact of Florida Georgia Line, Jason Aldean, Morgan Wallen, and more.

Episode 62: Shaylen
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones are joined by country music artist Shaylen as she talked about her road from the pop world back into the country music scene. Shaylen also talked about two of her biggest songs that have blown up on social media. The Tennessee native also shared some stories on how she is part of the new duet for "Lips Of An Angel."

Episode 60: The 'Grand Ole' Conversation
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones had a fun discussion about the "Grand Ole Opry" and what it means in the country music world. The fellas talked about artists that are already in and which stars have not been invited yet. The guys then predicted who will be the next artist to be invited into the "Grand Ole Opry."

Episode 59: Peytan Porter
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner were joined by Peytan Porter as she talked about her rise in the country music scene and she also explained her strategy for Tik Tok. Porter also broke down how her latest song that's coming out, "God's Hotel."

Episode 58: Ben Williams
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones are joined by songwriter Ben Williams this week. Ben talked about how he went from a college athlete in California to moving to Nashville to chase his songwriting dream. Ben also talked about how Megan Moroney's #1 hit "Tennessee Orange" was written and how he was nervous about it not reaching #1. Ben tells the guys what it was like writing with Hardy

Episode 56: Drew Green
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones were joined by Drew Green backstage at the Greeley Stampede as he was opening for Sam Hunt. Drew talked about how Alan Jackson was one of his biggest country music influences and how he made his crazy journey to Nashville. What’s it like writing with Hunter Phelps and Hardy? Drew also broke down his latest single, “Yep” along with some other of his favorite songs th

Episode 55: Alee
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner were joined by country artist/songwriter Alee. The superstar female artist talked about her journey from Canada to Nashville. Alee also gave us the latest insight into her brand new song, "Ain't For The Beer."

Episode 54: Thoughts on Double Albums
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones gave their thoughts on most artists putting out double albums these days. Are songs going to get lost in the shuffle because of how large the albums are? The fellas also discussed if there's a better way to release music because of the way streaming is set up in today.

Episode 53: Evolution of Country Music
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner talked about the evolution of country music and how it has changed for the better era by era. The guys talked about how Big Loud and Morgan Wallen have changed the country music landscape. The fellas also had some strong opinions on some other industry topics.

Episode 51: Heath Warren
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner were joined by Heath Warren to talk about his drumming career before becoming a star songwriter in Nashville. Warren told the story on how "Rock and a Hard Place" was created and how it ended up in Bailey Zimmerman's hands while breaking records. Warren also discussed his relationship with Michael and Adam from After Midtown and how they helped his son

Episode 50: Blake Pendergrass
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones are joined by songwriter Blake Pendergrass to talk about his latest hits. Blake talked about his many cuts off of Morgan Wallen's new record. What's the real story of "865" and "Tennessee Numbers"? Blake talked about which song on the radio is one that he wishes he wrote. The North Carolina native also talked about his song on Nate Smith&

Episode 49: Top 10 Songs of Summer Draft
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner quickly recapped their recent trip to Nashville for Kissner's birthday along with a fun. The fellas then created their own draft of their top-10 summer songs that include Kenny Chesney, Keith Urban, Alan Jackson, and more!

Episode 47 - Andy Albert
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner chatted with songwriter Andy Albert as he talked about his hit song "Thinking 'Bout You." Andy also talked about his country influences that got him into country music. The fellas discussed what's it like writing with Dan + Shay and Hardy?

Episode 46 - Perfect Day at CMA Fest
With CMA Fest coming up, Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones came up with their perfect lineups that they would love to see in June. The fellas drafted one artist or group from each stage to make their dream lineup.

Episode 45 - Josh Phillips
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner talked with Josh Phillips about his journey from North Carolina to become a hit songwriter. Phillips talked about his friendship with Luke Combs and Brantley Gilbert. Phillips also explained the crazy journey of his first single.

Episode 44 - Morgan Wallen Album Special
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones went through and broke down all 36 songs off of Morgan Wallen's newest album that is making headlines and breaking records everywhere.

Episode 43 - Shantaia
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner sat down with Shantaia and talked about her journey from Canada to Nashville. Is there going to be a wave of female artists taking over country music? Shantaia also talked about her new album "Exes and Friends" and what went into writing her favorite songs.

Episode 40 - Hardy Album Special
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones broke down and reacted to Hardy's new album that has everyone talking. The fellas finally break silence on which song they had heard before the album came out. The guys also point out multiple secret messages that are in this record.

Episode 39 - 2023 Artists to Watch
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner break down the top artists that you need to follow in 2023. What's the going to be the new trend in country music moving forward? The fellas also discussed how there is going to be a new wave of female artists coming in to take over country music!

Episode 38 - James McNair
Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones are joined by songwriter James McNair. James talked about how he got into music and how he made it to Nashville. James told two hilarious stories about Sam Hunt and Hardy that you don't want to miss. After talking about his cuts from Morgan Wallen, Keith Urban, and Dylan Scott, James talked about what it was like writing with Luke Combs early on in their careers.

Episode 37 - Hunter Phelps
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner kicked off 2023 with one of the top songwriters in country music with Hunter Phelps. Hunter talked about where he got the idea for "Thinking 'Bout You" that was then cut by Dustin Lynch. Hunter also broke down the rest of his No. 1s he had in 2022 and tells us what Russell Dickerson and Hardy songs he's most excited about this year.

The Hook Podcast's Best of 2022 Countdown
Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner close out 2022 with a countdown of their favorite clips of the year. The fellas also reflected back on their trips to Nashville for the CMAs along with the Wild West Songwriters Festival up in Deadwood, SD with stories you don't want to miss. Brailey and Kevin also preview what's in store for 2023!

Episode 35 - After Midtown
Adam Ernst and Michael Rotundo of After Midtown joined the show to talk about where country music stands today. How powerful is Tik Tok in the music world. The fellas also talk about what it's like being around Bailey Zimmerman and seeing his success. The guys also talk about what's upcoming for them in 2023.

Episode 34 - Matt Roy
On this episode, Matt Roy joined the show to talk about his journey into the country music scene. Matt talked about how his #1 song, "Done" was written with Chris Janson. Matt also talked about what it's like working with up and coming star Ashley Cooke.

Episode 33 - Jordan Rager
Jordan Rager joined the show to talk about his journey into country music. Jordan talked about how he has a cut with Jason Aldean and how he even ended up on a song with the country star. Jordan also told a legendary story of his Grand Ole Opry debut.

Episode 31 - Brent James
Brent James joined Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones LIVE from the Wild West Songwriter Festival in Deadwood, South Dakota. Brent talked about how he got into music and some of the artists he's performed with over the years. Brent also tells a story you won't hear anywhere else. Brent also talked about his band, "The Vintage Youth."

Episode 30 - Payton Smith
On this episode of "The Hook Podcast,"up and coming star Payton Smith joined Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones LIVE from the Wild West Songwriter Festival in Deadwood, South Dakota. Payton talked about how he made his way to Nashville to pursue his music career. Payton also explained how Keith Urban has been a huge musical inspiration to him in his musical career.

Episode 29 - Kevin Kadish
Kevin Kadish joined Kevin Kissner and Brailey Jones LIVE from the Wild West Songwriter Festival in Deadwood, South Dakota. Kadish talked about how his #1 hit song "Whiskey Glasses" made it all the way to the top of the charts. Kadish also told the story about how "All About that Bass" was written and became one of the biggest songs of the last decade.

Episode 28 - Tiffany Johnson
South Dakota's own Tiffany Johnson joined The Hook Podcast LIVE from the Wild West Songwriter Festival in Deadwood, South Dakota. Tiffany talked about her favorite memories from attending the festival for most of her life. Tiffany mentioned who here musical influences are and who she would love to write songs with.

Episode 27 - Stephen Wilson Jr.
Stephen Wilson Jr. joined Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner LIVE from the Wild West Songwriter Festival in Deadwood, South Dakota. Stephen talked about his passion for music and his boxing backround. Stephen also talked about his song that was cut from Tim McGraw and more.

Episode 26 - Dean Alexander
Dean Alexander joined Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner LIVE from the Wild West Songwriter Festival in Deadwood, South Dakota. Dean talked about how he got into music at such a young age along with his musical influences. Dean also talked about his latest album "Devil Man's Blues."

Episode 25 - Randy Brown
Randy Brown, owner of "His and Hers," joined Brailey Jones and Kevin Kissner LIVE from the Wild West Songwriter Festival in Deadwood, South Dakota. Randy talked about his favorite memories from the festival and what the festival means for the city of Deadwood.

Episode 22 - "Stay In School" Release Special
During this release special, Pennington joined Kevin and Brailey once again to talk about the release of his new song “Stay in School.” Pennington talked about what the meaning of the song is and what it was like writing this song with Walker Hayes!

Episode 21 - Pennington
On this episode, Kevin and Brailey are joined by Pennington. The songwriter and producer talked about his journey getting into the music world. Pennington also told the story on how he grew up with Tyler Hubbard from “Florida Georgia Line” and what it was like writing with them as well. Pennington has also written with Walker Hayes.

Episode 20 - Get to know The Hook Pt 2
On our 20th episode of The Hook Podcast, Brailey and Kevin reflected back on some of their favorite stories that were told about their favorite songs. Kevin also gives a little background on himself and what got him into loving country music. The fellas also talked about their favorite songs of the year and what big events they have coming up!

Episode 19 - Michael Whitworth
The boys are back! After a few weeks off Kevin and Brailey are back with a special guest and new friend of the podcast, Michael Whitworth. Michael has written songs for everyone! including Kyle Clark, Mitchell Tenpenny, FGL, and more! He tells incredible stories of what its like working with Jelly Roll, and how he blends his rock background with his current county style! The Hook Podcast is presen

Episode 18 - Brad Rempel of High Valley
This week Brailey and Kevin are joined by Brad Rempel of High Valley. The guys talk to Brad about his upbringing in Northern Canada, their time as a family band, what brought them to Nashville, and the challenges and success along the way. They also dive deep into a few of the High Valley's biggest songs along with stories about songs on their brand new album "Way Back". The Hook Podcast is Brough

Episode 17 - Kyle Clark "Hope It's Hot Out" Release Special
Brailey and Kevin welcome Kyle Clark back to the podcast to dive into his new single "Hope It's Hot Out". Kyle talks about everything that went into reconstructing a 3-year-old song after a 17-second clip took off on TikTok. They also chatted about his recent engagement and why it was essential to make sure everyone on the song got credit for the original idea. Presented by Moonshine Golf

Episode 16 - Ben Johnson
This week Brailey and Kevin sit down with Singer, Songwriter, and Producer Ben Johnson. Ben currently has 5 singles on the charts and has written songs for Lee Brice, Hardy, Morgan Evans, Dierks Bentley, and Weezer just to name a few. The guys talk about everything from Ben growing up in Mississippi, his cello scholarship, moving to Nashville with his sisters, and dive deep into his connection to

Episode 15: Bobby McLamb
This week Brailey and Kevin sit down with Songwriter and owner of Mixtape Music Publishing Bobby McLamb. Bobby takes us behind the scenes on what a publisher does for songwriters, what it's like to pitch songs to major label artists, and navigating social media and TikTok as a songwriter and publisher.

Episode 14: Hayden Coffman
This week Brailey and new Co-Host Kevin sit down with independent singer-songwriter Hayden Coffman. Hayden tells us about his upbringing in Tennesee, playing college baseball, and how a Luke Combs concert turned into him diving into music full time.

Episode 13 - Kyle Clark
The Hook is back! Brailey sits down this week with Singer-Songwriter Kyle Clark. Kyle tells some great stories about his time as an independent artist in Georgia, his connection to multi-platinum Songwriter and Producer Jordan Schmidt. They also dive deep into some of Kyle's biggest releases, what it's like to have a song go viral on TikTok and pull back the curtain on the writing process of some

Season 2 Episode 1 - Justin Wilson
We are finally back for Season 2 of The Hook Podcast! This week we quickly dive into where we have been, and sit down with the crazy talented multi-platinum songwriter Justin Wilson. He tells some amazing stories about coming up as a child star, his choice to be a songwriter over an artist as well, and a deep dive into some of his biggest cuts with Michael Ray and Mitchell Tenpenny. This is an epi

Episode 11: After Midtown EP Special
It's the After Midtown "Dont Give Away The Ending" EP Special. Join The Hook as KJ and Brailey catch up with Michael and Adam from After Midtown. They tell great stories about what's new, some of their recent writes, and as we deep dive into each song on their first EP!

Episode 10: Alysa Vanderheym
This week on The Hook Podcast, we sit down with Alysa Vanderheym. She tells us some great stories about her time at Belmont, how she got into writing and producing records for some of the biggest names in Nashville. And we deep dive into Denver International Airport conspiracy theories. All this week on The Hook Podcast brought to you by Hillrose Company Clothing.

Episode 9: Austin Burke
The week on The Hook Podcast we hang out with Austin Burke! He tells some great stories about hitting 60k streams on Spotify without a record label, signing his publishing deal with Thomas Rhett's Home Team Publishing, and his relationship with TR. We also dive deep into how TikTok has changed the way he puts out music.

Episode 8: Johnny McGuire
This week on The Hook Podcast we sit down with a friend of the podcast, Singer-Songwriter Johnny McGuire! We chat with Johnny about playing shows at a young age, making the move to Nashville, his time in duo Walker McGuire and his current solo career!
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