
All Means ALL Inclusive Education
Join two inclusive education enthusiasts, Carolyn O'Hearn and Sara Pericolosi, as they explore how families, educators, community members, advocates, and individuals can work together to create inclusive learning environments for all learners. The podcast dives deeper into practical ways to support inclusion in education. Each episode discusses strategies and perspectives for building schools and communities where every learner belongs.
Episodes

Episode 91: Building a Community Where Everyone Can Play
In this episode, Sara sits down with a very special guest, 8-year-old Natalie, alongside her mom, Emily, to discuss the journey of building an inclusive, accessible playground right here in Iron Mountain, Michigan. Natalie shares her powerful perspective on why accessibility matters, her favorite parts of the new playground, and how her class projects and video advocacy are helping open doors for

Episode 90: From Auto-Pilot to Purpose: Shifting School Culture One Conversation at a Time
Are you stepping into the school year feeling overwhelmed by the endless to-do lists, navigating resistance, and slipping into quick problem-solving mode? It’s easy to let culture-building take a backseat when every task feels urgent. But what if the secret to transforming your school culture isn't a massive new initiative, but the everyday, micro-conversations you’re already having? In this e

Episode 89: We're Back!
After a brief hiatus that included resting, resetting, and enjoying our summer with our families, Carolyn & Sara are kicking off SEASON 5 (whaaaat). Listen in for a quick "hello" and what to expect this season. We've missed you and we're ready for this next chapter!

Episode 88: Seeing the Unseen: Building Empathy in Education
Every student, parent, and educator carries an invisible backpack filled with experiences, challenges, and untold stories.In this episode, we explore the concept of the “invisible backpack,” introduced by David Edward Garcia, and how these unseen burdens shape communication, behavior, and connection in educational spaces.By learning to recognize what isn’t immediately visible, we can build deeper

Episode 87: Three Years Later - What We’ve Learned and What’s Next
Join us as we reflect on three years of All Means ALL, where we started, how our vision has evolved, and what continues to ground us in inclusive education. We share what it’s looked like to revisit and refine our mission over time, and how radical collaboration has shaped our work in meaningful ways.We also get practical, highlighting simple tools like visual planning frameworks to help prioritiz

Episode 86: We Can ... and We Will.
You've heard it time and time again: you can only control the controllables. But when you're in the thick of the work and things feel heavy, it can be hard to pull yourself out and see the end goal. Sometimes showing up is half the work - but then imposter syndrome kicks in! We've got an affirmation for you and your team to use to keep going when it gets rough. Say it with us: We can a

Episode 85: ATIA 2026 - Day 1
We're together in Orlando at ATIA 2026! In this recap episode, we reflect on coming full circle, returning to the conference where All Means ALL first began four years ago. Listen in as we share what makes ATIA such a powerful space for learning and connection.We talk about the magic of hallway conversations, networking across states, and why conferences aren’t just about sessions, but about p

Busting Myths & Spreading Literacy Love with Maureen Donnelly (Part 2)
Join us as we wrap up our myth busting conversation with Maureen Donnelly, Director of Curriculum at Building Wings, Inc. If you haven't (yet) listened to Episode 83, we'd encourage you to do so before listening in. We are grateful for Marueen's willingness to share her knowledge, wisdom, and passion about comprehensive literacy for ALL with us!Thanks for listening and, if you haven

Busting Myths & Spreading Literacy Love with Maureen Donnelly (Part 1)
Grab your favorite beverage and settle in because this episode is a good one! We’re joined by Maureen Donnelly, Director of Curriculum at Building Wings, Inc., for an eye-opening (and myth-busting) conversation about teaching students with complex needs how to read, write, and communicate. Together, we tackle some of the most common misconceptions educators run into and gently (okay, sometimes not

Episode 83: A Little Bit of History; A Lotta Bit of Hope (with special guest Kelly Fonner)
During this episode, Carolyn and Sara connect with THE Kelly Fonner - notable AT maker, presenter, mentor... knower and doer of ALL the things. They chat about Kelly's introduction into the world of education, how learning about AT is best by doing, and the power of networking at conferences. Kelly speaks about QIAT (Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology) - check them out and start the c

Episode 82: Belief, Success, and Opportunity - Part 2 with Don Johnston
In this continuation of our conversation with Don Johnston, founder of Building Wings, we dive even deeper into what it means to believe in every learner’s potential. Don shares how one teacher’s high expectations changed the course of his life and how that belief continues to shape his mission today: creating tools that help every student experience success through reading, writing, and learning.

Episode 81: Building Wings with Don Johnston (Part 1)
In this first of a two-part conversation, we sit down with Don Johnston, founder of Don Johnston Inc. and now the creative force behind Building Wings. Don shares his journey from developing assistive technology to creating literacy-focused tools that honor the learning potential of every student.From his early collaborations to his ongoing work Don’s story reminds us what’s possible when we belie

Episode 80: Closing the Gap - Day 2
Join us for our recap of Day two of the Closing the Gap conference where we share our main takeaways including more about Comprehensive Literacy for All and the CITES Framework. We are wrapping up our time inspired to continue this work.- - - - - - - -Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Faceb

Episode 79: Closing the Gap - Day 1
Carolyn and Sara are back in person at the 43rd Annual Closing the Gap conference in Minneapolis, Minnesota! Tune in to hear about their first pre-conference session about coaching and the amazing sessions from Day 1. - - - - - - - -Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook

Episode 78: Embracing the Heavy
This school year has started with weight. From staff shortages to rising student complexities, many of us are navigating classrooms that feel heavier than usual. In this honest conversation, Sara and Carolyn sit down to talk about what it means to show up in those hard seasons.They share their own recent challenges as administrators, celebrate small wins, and reflect on the importance of humility,

Episode 77: Coaching for Success: Empowering Teams
If you've focused on building capacity or shifting practices chances are you've heard something like, “We tried it and it didn’t work.” But what if our coaching conversations focused more on building trust?In this episode, we’re giving you a sneak peek into our Closing The Gap pre-conference session, Coaching for AAC Success: Empowering Teams. You’ll get a feel for the hands-on activities, hear ho

Episode 76: New Season, New School Year! (Season 4!)
We're kicking off Season 4 with a bang! In this episode, Carolyn and Sara reflect on their journey to this point, working together as a team, and dreams coming true (new jobs, pre-conference workshops, all the fun!). Join us at Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN between October 21-24! Register for a pre-con and save on your registration/pre-con bundle!- - - - - - Here's the Transcript for

Episode 75: MAASE - Day 2
In this episode, Carolyn and Sara recap highlights from Day 2 of the Michigan Association of Administrators of Special Education (MAASE) Summer Institute. Connection is key, as is making sure the right voices are at the table... Also, when you golf, watch out for those geese (listen in to hear more). Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podca

Episode 74: MAASE 2025 - Day 1
Carolyn & Sara share insights from the Michigan Association of Administrators of Special Education (MAASE) Conference! Listen in as they discuss the importance of intentional leadership, building school culture, recognizing staff contributions, and fostering meaningful connections. Highlights include reflections on a keynote by Joe Sanfilippo, emphasizing that every interaction matters, and st

Episode 73: Change is Hard, Y'all.
In this episode, Carolyn gets vulnerable about when change doesn't happen as quickly or as seemlessly as you want. She reminds you to use data to drive decisions, value multiple perspectives, and be ready for the push back - and take advantage of the little yeses that may open the door for something bigger!Good luck this school year and keep doing all the great things! We are proud of YOU.Than

Episode 72: Designing Professional Learning that Lasts
In this episode, Sara and Carolyn dive into one of their favorite topics: designing professional learning that goes beyond the “sit and get.” They unpack what it takes to create intentional, engaging, and responsive learning experiences for educators - ones that not only spark mindset shifts but also support long-term changes in practice. Drawing from their years of experience and favorite confere

Episode 71: Reflect and Plan
At the end of a chaotic school year, it's easy to focus on your end-of-year to-do list and all of the things that haven't gone right in the last few weeks. We're challenging you to think bigger and recognize all of the good you and your team were able to do with your learners this year!Using these reflective questions, consider all of the work you've accomplished this year as an in

Episode 70: Let's Talk About LRE
In this episode, Carolyn and Sara unpack Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) and reflect on how placement decisions affect students' long-term opportunities. They discuss the importance of shared understanding, the risks of staff-driven decisions, and how to keep students at the center.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spot

Episode 69: Igniting Change
Earlier this week, Carolyn attended the 24th Annual START Conference here in Michigan. This episode recaps the energizing day of learning by reflecting on Caroline Gaddy's and Ashley Larisey's keynotes, then describes one of Carolyn's breakout sessions where participants designed stickers! Listen in to hear why the session went so well (and no, it's not because Carolyn hit all her

Episode 68: Not Just Surviving - Reclaiming Joy in the Busy
Feeling stuck in the chaos of the day-to-day? You’re not alone - this episode is your reminder to pause, reset, and breathe. Carolyn and Sara dig into the unspoken weight of "just getting through" and challenge the idea that business equals success. They reflect on modeling balance for our teams, our families, and ourselves. From reframing breaks as resets to scheduling self-care like any other me

Episode 67: Bravery and Fear
"When we default to comfort out of fear of the unknown, we often ignore the paths that may change our life." - Todd Henry.We've said time and time again that this work is HARD - and it often involves bravery to take the leap. Scared? Do it anyway. The weird thing about bravery is that if you're doing it right, it feels like fear! Thanks for listening and, if you haven't alrea

Episode 66: Navigating the Messy Middle - Finding Growth in the Struggles
In this episode Carolyn and Sara dive into the challenges of the "messy middle"—that awkward, uncertain phase where self-doubt creeps in and progress feels slow. They discuss the importance of showing up, celebrating small wins, and surrounding yourself with supportive people to push through tough moments in both personal and professional growth.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, pl

Episode 65: Giving What You Have When You Have It
While we all wish to be superheroes with a track record of 100% good days, we' re human. During this episode, Carolyn and Sara discuss the importance of showing up, giving what you have, and simply trying. By extending this grace to ourselves and others, we accept what it means to be human: perfect imperfections. Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ revi

Episode 64: Small Steps to Big Joy with Kim Strobel (Part 2)
In part two of our conversation with Kim Strobel, happiness coach and author of Teach Happy: Small Steps to Big Joy, we dive into practical strategies to find flow and boost well-being. Kim shares simple, science-backed tips to help you reframe your mindset, build gratitude, and cultivate lasting happiness in everyday life.
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Episode 63: Small Steps to Big Joy with Kim Strobel (Part 1)
In this episode, we’re joined by Kim Strobel, a former educator turned happiness coach and author of Teach Happy: Small Steps to Big Joy. Kim shares practical insights from the latest happiness research and explains simple, actionable steps we can all take to find authentic happiness. Tune in for a refreshing, no-nonsense conversation on how to live with more happiness.
Thanks for listening and,

Episode 62: ATIA 2025 - Day 3
As we wrap up ATIA 2025, we’re filled with gratitude for our amazing community. In this episode, we’re joined by the one and only Mike Marotta, who shares his key takeaways from the conference. Wherever you are, remember you’re a valued part of this community. Feel free to reach out anytime to connect!
Resources Shared in this Episode:
bit.ly/appsmack25
Mike's contact info: BlueSky (@mmatp.b

Episode 61: ATIA 2025 - Day 2
Whew! What a fun and (good) exhausting 2 days of learning! Listen in to hear about Day 2 of ATIA 2025 - lots of great ideas and resources that we're bringing straight to you!
Resources Shared in this Episode:
National Center on Accessible Digital Educational Materials & Instruction (NCADEMI)
IEP Team's Guide to Accessible Educational Materials in Oregon
Estendio - Tailo
UDL 3.0 Gu

Episode 60: ATIA 2025 - Day 1
We're back together in person! Woo! This episode recaps Day 1 of the 2025 Assistive Technology Industry Association (ATIA). Hear about our session(!), accessibility features in Amazon's Kindle and Prime Video, and writing tools - that leads to us remembering that what might be convenient for one could be necessary (i.e., assistive technology) for another!
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Episode 59: Rethinking Education Through Connection and Creativity
Get ready for a creative, insightful dive into rethinking education! In this episode, Carolyn is joined by Carolyn Parker (yes, two Carolyns!) as explore how simple objects, like tote bags, buttons, and moon phases can symbolize the power of connection, potential, and change in education. Tune in for fun reflections, creative sparks, and a fresh look at how we can collaborate to transform how we s

Episode 58: Making Mistakes to Enhance Learning
We won't learn if we don't try and none of us are where we are without having made a mistake or two (...or twenty). In this episode, Carolyn and Sara discuss the importance of jumping in and expecting to make mistakes, as that's where the learning happens. Listen for ideas of how to reflect and apply that new learning so our learners, our community, and ourselves can benefit from not waiting for t

Episode 57: Inclusive Conversations Through STEM
In this episode, nine-year-old Kate shares how her STEM class inspired thoughtful conversations about inclusivity. Inspired by her teacher's challenge, Kate and her classmates used Legos to design a universal playground that's accessible to all. From ramps to wider doorways, Kate explains how STEM can spark important discussions about accessibility and community.
Thanks for listening and, if you

Episode 56: GROWTH Coaching
In this episode, we're diving into one of our biggest passions—coaching! Whether you're a parent, educator, or community member, we all find ourselves supporting other adults from time to time. Inspired by the book The Leader’s Guide to Coaching in Schools, we discuss the power of GROWTH coaching and how it can help you support others through meaningful conversations.
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Episode 55: Set your Sites on CITES (Part 2 of 2)
In this episode, Carolyn and Sara are joined once again by Christine Fox and Mia Laudato of the Center on Inclusion Technology and Education Systems (CITES). This episode is all about action. How can you get started if you’re an individual who is ready to jump in? What about if you are part of a team ready to make lasting change for your learners? Listen in to learn about Christine and Mia’s favor

Episode 54: Set Your Sites on CITES! (Part 1 of 2)
Creating changes at the individual or smaller team levels can be challenging; imagine scaling that change to the state and district levels! In this episode, Carolyn and Sara are joined by Christine Fox and Mia Laudato of the Center on Inclusion Technology and Education Systems (CITES). Christine is the VP Operations and Co-Project Director of CITES, while Mia is also a Co-Project Director and Seni

Episode 53: Teaming When It's Tough
Getting along with everyone on a team is a desired state, but let’s face it - we don’t always agree, we bring different ideas to the table, and we can feel pretty strongly about our thoughts. In this episode, Sara and Carolyn ask the tough question: how do we co-exist with others when we don’t share the same ideas? They talk about the importance of being unattached to the outcome (wise words from

Episode 52: The Marigold Effect
In this episode, inspired by Jennifer Gonzalez's article "Find Your Marigold: The One Essential Rule for New Teachers," Sara and Carolyn dive into the transformative power of the marigold effect. Discover how positive influences—much like nurturing marigold flowers—can cultivate growth and resilience. Learn how you can become a marigold in your community, inspiring others to thrive!
Thanks for li

Episode 51: The Rule of Thirds
Welcome back to the start of another school year and our third season!! We recently learned about the "rule of thirds" and couldn't wait to share it with others. If you've been chasing a dream or a goal for a while or are just starting out, listen in!
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Episode 50: When You Don’t Know What To Do, Be Creative!
In our 50th(!!!!) episode, Carolyn and Sara talk about how creativity stems from when you're stuck and don't know what to do next.
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Episode 49: Thought Partners
Our world can sometimes feel isolating, but it doesn't have to be. Thought partners can be an excellent way to grow as an educator, a family member, or even simply as a person. By finding the person that challenges your thinking while getting you to think deeper, you can become re-energized when life gets you down and validated when things are confusing. This episode was inspired by Edutopia&#

Episode 48 - Self Advocacy and New Learning
Mitchell and Matt are back for another episode as they share their experience with developing self advocacy skills through planning Self Directed IEPs. Listen in to learn more about how these skills have helped them as they transitioned into post secondary life.
You can learn more about Mitchell and Matt on their website. To connect with Mitchell and Matt, you can follow them on Facebook or em

Episode 47 - Mitchell and Matt - Reflecting On the Journey
In this episode we are joined by twin brothers, Mitchell and Matt from Speaking About Autism as they share the impact that their family, educators, friends, and employers have had on their lives. As they would say, "It's all about the people."
To connect with Mitchell and Matt, you can follow them on Facebook or email them at speakingaboutautism@gmail.com
Thanks for listening and,

Episode 46: Stick With It - and Welcome Those Along the Way
Not everyone is ready to start a project or shift their thinking at the same time you are. It's important to find a delicate balance between supporting those who jump in right away while also encouraging and sharing information to those who are hesitant or don't have the bandwidth to commit from the start. Listen in to hear a fun success story about sticking with it for the long haul.
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Episode 45: Celebrating Differences: The Evolution of Autism Acceptance
In celebration of Autism Acceptance Month, Carolyn and Sara discuss the shift from Autism Awareness to Autism Acceptance. They highlight the importance of understanding, accepting, and celebrating the strengths of individuals with autism. They emphasize the need for inclusivity, embracing neurodiversity, and creating environments where everyone feels valued and included.
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Episode 44: Are Assumptions Limiting Their Potential?
In the wake of the viral World Down Syndrome day ad, "Assume I Can," Carolyn and Sara discuss how assumptions can be limiting and imposed upon individuals with disabilities more often than those without disabilities. What biases or assumptions are holding back your learners or family members? What conversations could be held around expanding opportunities and building self-advocacy?
If

Episode 43: The Importance of Team
Teams are crucial in building inclusive schools and communities. They're often the catalyst for progress, growth, and change. In this episode, Sara and Carolyn talk about the importance of teams and how we may not always consider the extent of that team.
Here is the transcript for Episode 43: The Importance of Team.
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Episode 42: Choose Your Hard
Building inclusive spaces can be filled with challenges and barriers, yet we need to continue to dream, act, and move the work forward. This work is difficult, yet so incredibly important.
Listen to Sara and Carolyn share their thoughts and ideas for how, despite the challenges, we can (and need to) make an impact.
Here is the transcript for Episode 42: Choose Your Hard
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Episode 41: ATIA Day 3 Recap
Sara and Carolyn share a quick recap of a-ha moments from Day 3 (the final day) of ATIA. The sessions they attended today largely centered around collaboration, parent perspectives, and being intentional about our choices today so that life can be accessed more efficiently tomorrow.
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Episode 40: ATIA Day 2
Sara and Carolyn share a quick recap of a-ha moments from Day 2 at ATIA. So many great nuggets of information around comprehensive literacy, self-advocacy, partnering with families, and shifting mindsets (and practices) around assistive technology.
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Episode 39: ATIA Day 1
Sara and Carolyn are at ATIA in Orlando, Florida! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments of our sessions including employability skills and assistive technology, the importance of communication in education, and how to support emergent writing for those with complex bodies.
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Episode 38: How Families Impact Education
Families are often an untapped resource for schools and community members, yet they are a constant team member for their child from birth to graduation and beyond. Teachers change, ancillary staff members change, but family members show up at the table time and time again to identify learning goals for their child.
Listen in to hear how families can impact their student's educational journey

Episode 37: What Next?
What happens when we meet the student, the family, the colleague we didn't expect? In this episode, Sara and Carolyn share their thoughts and ideas on how powerful reflection, positive intent, and building authentic relationships can be.
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Episode 36: Learning Forward Day 3
Final day of Learning Forward in Washington, D.C.! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments from day three and our experience with Learning Forward.
We mention the Learning Forward Standards for Professional Learning in this episode. We invite you to explore these standards to see how you and your team can be more intentional about the training and conversations you embark in along the way.
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Episode 35: Learning Forward Day 2
Sara and Carolyn are at Learning Forward in Washington, D.C.! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments from day two of our learning, collaborating, and pondering.
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Episode 34: Learning Forward Day 1
Sara and Carolyn are at Learning Forward in Washington, D.C.! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments from Chris Emdin (keynote speaker), Jennifer Abrams (concurrent session presenter), and Delia Racines (round table facilitator).
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Episode 33: Partnering With Outside Agencies
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -- Hellen Keller.
In this episode, we are joined by Carolyn Parker of Stepping Stones Speech Therapy. Carolyn talks about her experience as both a school Speech-Language Pathologist and a private practice Speech-Language Therapist. She shares little nuggets of wisdom for how we can truly come together and partner to support our st

Episode 32: Real Conversations for Real Inclusion
It's one thing to stand on the outside and talk about how kids should be including other kids - but why not have a conversation with them directly? In this special episode, Jameson O'Hearn & Kate Pericolosi answer questions about how school is or could be more inclusive to others around them. Listeners will also receive ideas of how to have their own conversations with their younger ch

Episode 31: CtG - Day 3
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 3 of Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN.
We chat about our session from today at Closing the Gap, Taming the Advice Monster: Strategies to Support Collaborative Efforts.
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Episode 30: CtG - Day 2
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 2 of Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN.
We chat about sessions from Erin Sheldon, CAST, and AAC Improv!
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Episode 29: CtG - Day 1
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 1 of Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN.
We chat about Amanda Soper's session today. You can find her on Instagram at: @AACreATively.
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Episode 28: The (Negative) Power of Labels
Labeling an experience or a moment can help learners understand a situation or feeling, but what happens when we label learners as a whole. Terms like “low functioning” or “unmotivated” describe the learner as a whole and may inadvertently shift our expectations, which affects the opportunities afforded to them and impact their potential success. What terms do you use or hear others use that may b

Episode 27: Creating Supportive Learning Environments
In this episode, Sara and Carolyn chat about the Ten Conditions for Learning that are present in supportive learning environments. These conditions for learning are based upon the research of Doctors David Koppenhaver and Karen Erickson. Listen in to learn what they are, why they're important, and of course - be ready for a little self-reflection and action!
To learn more about these conditio

Episode 26: Setting Good Goals
Season 2! Join Sarolyn consider components of "good" goals and why we need to stop writing goals for goals-sake. What goals are you writing this year? Help us reach our goals by sharing topics or perspectives you'd like to hear on All Means ALL!
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Here is th

Episode 25: Connecting with Others about LRE
Considering the Least Restrictive Environment, better known as LRE, is mandated when deciding where learners receive their education. Carolyn and Sara chat about LRE and how understanding someone's will drivers (Robyn Jackson) can help improve educational programming and (hopefully) start the shift to a culture of inclusion.
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Episode 24: How Can We Motivate Others?
In this episode, Sara and Carolyn sit down with Tracy Wood to discuss how she has used Robyn Jackson's "Will Drivers" to design more meaningful, engaging, and impactful professional development. Tracy also shares how this information has positively impacted her day-to-day conversations and relationships. Tracy is a veteran Speech-Language Pathologist with Mount Pleasant Public School

Episode 23: What Motivates You?
When we consider how to bring others along on this journey toward inclusive education, it's important to recognize what motivates us as well as what motivates them. Based on Robyn Jackson's "Will Drivers," Sara and Carolyn jump into four different drivers that describe what motivates us as learners. Consider how mastery, autonomy, purpose, and belonging all contribute to our moti

Episode 22: Fill Your Bucket With Professional Learning
In order to fill the buckets of others, ours needs to be filled too! In this episode, you'll find out what Sara and Carolyn are reading and/or listening to in an effort to fill their buckets this summer. We want to learn with and from you so find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter and let us know what you're doing to fill your bucket.
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Episode 21: Celebrating Wins
Let's end the 2022-2023 school year on a high note. When is the last time you reflected on the growth you've made this year? Not the growth on your mandated professional goals, but the little wins that have supported big changes overall. It's time to celebrate you and it's time to celebrate others who are on this journey with you. What are you celebrating? Please share your wins or

Episode 20: 20 All Means ALL-isms
We're celebrating our 20th podcast by sharing some of our favorite All Means ALL-isms. We would love for you to share your favorites or ideas for future podcast topics, guests, etc. Follow us and reach out to us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.
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Episode 19: Transitions Today for Transitions Tomorrow
As we approach the end of the traditional school year, many of you are having conversations about transitioning your child, your classroom, your caseload to the next program or to the next providers. Transitions are normal - we transition from one task to another, from one location to another - so how can we normalize and improve transitions from one classroom or program to the next for our learne

Episode 18: Don't Give Up
In this episode, Sara interviews Karanveer Singh, a film editor, public speaker, and an AAC user. Karanveer shares about his experience with finding his voice later in life, inclusion, and things he wished his peers, educators, and community members had known. If you want to talk with Karanveer directly, you can reach him via email.
Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please giv

Episode 17: Know Better, Do Better
Once we know better, it's imperative that we DO better - for students, for educators, for families, and for communities. In this episode, Sara and Carolyn give simple steps to get started today for four groups: educators, families, administrators, and communities. By working together, we ensure accountability, sustainability, and better outcomes over time.
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Episode 16: SXSW EDU - Day 4
Sara and Carolyn share their final takeaways from Day 4 and the SXSW EDU conference in Austin, TX.
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Episode 15: SXSW EDU - Day 3
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 3 of SXSW EDU in Austin, TX.
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Episode 14: SXSW EDU - Day 2
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 2 of SXSW EDU in Austin, TX.
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Episode 13: SXSW - Day 1
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 1 of SXSW EDU in Austin, TX.
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