Outside Ourselves
Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. It explores what it means for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works. Kelsi discusses questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes are released every other week. The podcast is part of the 1517 Podcast Network.
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The Lutheran View of Baptism with Brian Thomas
Kelsi interviews Pastor Brian W. Thomas about his latest book with 1517 Publishing, By Water and the Word: God's Gift of Baptism for You at the latest Northwest Arkansas HWSS conference. The book serves as a visual and written guide to the Lutheran view of baptism which Kelsi and Brian both argue lines up with the Scriptural view of baptism. Brian W. Thomas is the pastor of Grace Lutheran in S
How to be Human with Carl Trueman
Kelsi talks with church historian, professor, and author, Carl Trueman about his newest book, The Desecration of Man: How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity. Carl R. Trueman (PhD, University of Aberdeen) is professor of biblical and religious studies at Grove City College. He is an esteemed church historian and previously served as the William E. Simon Fellow in Religion and Public Life at
The Future of Family with Scott Keith
1517 Executive Director Scott Keith joins Kelsi to discuss his new book, Being Family: Passing Down the Faith Through the Generations. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi Klembara
The Culture of God's Word with Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford
Kelsi chats with co-authors, Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford of the newly released "The Culture of God's Word: Faithful Ministry in a Post-Christian Society." The duo talk about remaining faithful to the preaching of God's effective words of law and gospel no matter what ministry trends or cultural contexts surround us. They also discuss the importance of allowing the Word to sup
Blaise Pascal: Faith, the Self, and Our Modern World with Graham Tomlin
Graham Tomlin joins Kelsi to discuss the influence and faith of 17th-century polymath, Blaise Pascal, based on Tomlin's most recent book, "Blaise Pascal: The Man Who Made the Modern World." The two discuss his similarities and differences with Martin Luther, his views of 17th-century French society (and how this culture offers many lessons for our modern world), and his contributions
Evidence for the Resurrection with Adam Francisco
What does it mean for Paul to claim that if Christ has not been raised, our preaching and faith is in vain as he states in 1 Corinthians 15? Adam Francisco joins Kelsi to talk about the importance of centering Christian apologetics on the resurrection of Christ as a historically reliable event. The two also discuss helpful responses to many of the common objections to the resurrection and how the
Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World
Kelsi chats with author, Laurie Krieg, about her newest book (coauthored with her husband Matt), Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World, to answer how we keep the gospel as our foundation as we teach and guide our children through increasingly complex sexual issues today. Laurie Krieg is the director of parent programs and discipleship for The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Laurie
Understanding Revivalism with Dan van Voorhis
What does revival really mean for the modern church? This week, historian, 1517 Scholar in Residence, and Christian History Almanac host, Dan Van Voorhis, joins Kelsi to explore the nuances of revivalism throughout American Christianity and to discuss whether or not the church is currently undergoing a revival. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network
The Season of Lent (and the Entire Christian Life) with Christopher Richmann
Christopher Richmann teaches religion and is assistant director for teaching and learning with the Academy for Teaching and Learning at Baylor University. An ordained ELCA pastor, Christopher serves St. John Lutheran Church in Gatesville, TX. He joins Kelsi to discuss his new book with 1517 Publishing, Stretched: A Study Guide for Lent and the Entire Christian Life.Lent often conjures images of se
The True Myth of the Gospel with Louis Markos
Kelsi talks with English professor and Christian apologist, Louis Markos, about the importance of myth, storytelling, and imagination within Christian apologetics. Using C.S Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien as guides, Dr. Markos argues Christianity is the truest myths and therefore Christ is the fulfillment of the pagan hope for a savior as seen in the great myths throughout time. The two also discuss the
Understanding the American Religious Landscape with Ryan Burge
Kelsi is joined by data analyst, Ryan Burge, to discuss the current American Religious Landscape as well as his newest book, The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us.Dr. Ryan Burge is an associate professor of political science at Eastern Illinois University. He is the author or co-author of four books including The Nones, 20 Myths a
Grace and Absolution in Wake Up Dead Man with David Zahl
Kelsi chats with David Zahl about themes of faith and grace in Rian Johnson's newest film, Knives Out: Wake Up Dead Man.David Zahl is founder and director of Mockingbird Ministries, which receives more than 1 million website page views per year and 35,000 newsletter subscribers and social media followers. He is editor in chief of the Mockingbird blog and cohost of the Mockingcast podcast.Show
Jim Nestingen's Legacy with John Pless
Kelsi talks with Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry and Missions, John Pless, about compiling and editing, The Essential Nestingen: Essays on Preaching, Catechism, and the Reformation. These essays were written by Dr. Pless' good friend, James Arne Nestingen (1945-2022). Jim was a beloved pastor, seminary professor, and most of all a confessor and preacher of the Gospel of Jesus. John ta
Advent in Isaiah with Matt Popovits
Kelsi chats with Pastor Matt Popovits about this year's 1517 Advent Resources, Coming Home for Christmas: Advent in Isaiah. For the past three years, Matt has written the sermons for this series which is available for free for pastors and lay people alike to download and use. The series also includes a personal devotional. The two discuss the multiple layers to this year's theme: the impor
The Quiet Ambition with Ryan Tinetti
Kelsi chats with professor, pastor, and author Ryan Tinetti about his new book, The Quiet Ambition: Scripture's Surprising Antidote to Our Restless Lives. Based on 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12, The Quiet Ambition argues the life of the Christian often has much less to do with changing the world than it does faithfully trusting our work matters because we matter to God. Ryan P. Tinetti is a pastor w
Kids and Parenting in the Digital Age with Erica Sorensen
Kelsi talks with Erica Sorensen about her experience in youth ministry and the affects of our current digital age on parenting and kids. The two discuss the impact of therapy culture, online culture, and trauma for Gen Z and Gen Alpha. Ultimately, Erica reminds listeners that Jesus is the answer for both them and their children and that we can trust him because his promises never fail. Erica Soren
Free Will is a Fiction: An Introduction to the Bondage of the Will with John Hoyum
Kelsi is joined by Pastor and 1517 contributor, John Hoyum, to discuss Martin Luther's Bondage of the Will. In this conversation, the two go over some of Luther's main arguments against the idea that humans have the free ability to choose God in salvation and talk about how Luther approached Scripture in order to rebut the humanist, Desiderius Erasmus', argument for the free will. Show
The Significance of Singleness with Dani Treweek
This week, Kelsi chats with author and theologian, Dani Treweek about her work on singleness and the church, and in particular, her new book, "Single Ever After: A Biblical Vision for the Significance of Singleness." Dani argues that just like marriage, singleness points us to eternity and therefore has intrinsic value to the church. Timecodes: 00:00 Introduction03:41 The Church’s Respon
Evangelism in the Age of Despair with Andrew Root
In this episode, Kelsi talks with theologian and author, Andrew Root, about his work on the secular age and his newest book, Evangelism in the Age of Despair. The two talk about how despite our culture's emphasis on happiness, we remain sadder than ever and the role of consolation in evangelism. Andrew Root (Ph.D., Princeton Theological Seminary) is the Carrie Olson Baalson professor of youth
The Gift of Holy Scripture with Jonathan Linebaugh
Kelsi is joined by Jonathan Linebaugh to discuss his new book, The Well that Washes What it Shows: An Invitation to Holy Scripture. In the book and in this conversation, Jono describes Scripture as God's living and active word by which he does two works: reveals of our need for Jesus and gives us Jesus himself. Jonathan A. Linebaugh serves as Anglican Chair of Divinity and professor of New Testame
Miscarriage and the God of All Comfort with Brittany Lee Allen
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi talks with author Brittany Lee Allen about her book Lost Gifts: Miscarriage, Grief, and the God of All Comfort. Brittany opens up about her experience with recurring miscarriage and the peace she has found in Christ amid deep loss. Together, Kelsi and Brittany discuss both helpful and unhelpful ways we talk about miscarriage, and how—even though God does
Christian Identity and Vocation in Belfast
In the final Summer Break episode, Kelsi chats with Caleb and Nathan from @theologyontherise the 2021 movie, Belfast, and what it means to be given and identity rather than create one. They discuss how Belfast's main character, Buddy, wrestles with who he is as his parents simultaneously wrestle with a big family decision and where, while more descriptive than prescriptive, they see examples
Tony Stark and the Infinity Saga: Eucatastrophe and Sacrifice
In this episode of Outside Ourselves Summer Break, 1517 executive director, Scott Keith, joins Kelsi to talk about the Marvel Cinematic Universe and specifically, the character arc of Tony Stark or Iron Man over the course of the Avengers: Infinity Saga series. Scott explains how J.R.R. Tolkien's term, eucatastrophe, is at play in the series. The two conclude that the hero's journey works
Law and Gospel in Jane Eyre
In this episode of Outside Ourselves: Summer Break, author, 1517 contributor, and internet theology whiz kid, Amy Mantravadi discuss theological themes in Charlotte Bronte's novel, Jane Eyre. Amy makes the argument that Jane's character development traces a law-gospel dynamic with Jane moving from a place of shame and condemnation to ultimately, resurrection.Show Notes:Support 151715
Severance and a Theology of Suffering
Kelsi talks with pastor, author, and 1517 contributor, Bradley Gray, about themes of suffering in Apple TV's series, Severance. The two explore how the show reveals humanity's inability to escape suffering before turning to the Christian answer for pain, grief, and ultimately death.Show Notes:Support 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YoutubeMore fro
Wicked and the Gift of Limitations with Ken Sundet Jones
In this first episode of Outside Ourselves Summer Break series, Kelsi chats with Reformation Theology professor (and Broadway Musical Buff), Ken Sundet Jones, about the connections between Wicked and a theology of glory/theology of the cross. The two focus in on Elphaba's desire to live without limitation and where this desire leads - ironically not to freedom and goodness, but to wickedness a
Sin and the Christian Life with Luke Kjolhaug
Kelsi is joined by author and pastor, Luke Kjolhaug, to talk about his new book, Sinner Saint: A Surprising Primer to the Christian Life. Luke lays out a biblical defense of simul iustus et peccator, or the idea that in this life, the Christian remains wholly sinful while also being wholly justified. The two talk about the importance of imputation when it comes to understanding the simul, what san
The Dangers of Gospel Drift with Jared C. Wilson
Jared C. Wilson joins Kelsi to chat about his latest book, Lest We Drift: Five Departure Dangers from the One True Gospel. In the book, Jared has identified the potential and problems with evangelical departures from gospel-centrality. In this conversation, Jared defines "gospel-centeredness" and then goes through the five key dangers he's identified in the book.Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant
The Urgency of Grace with David Zahl
David Zahl joins Kelsi to talk about his new book, The Big Relief: The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World.David Zahl is the director of Mockingbird Ministries and editor-in-chief of the Mockingbird website. David and his wife Cate reside in Charlottesville, VA with their three boys, where David also serves on the staff of Christ Episcopal Church. He is the author of Seculosity: How Career, Pare
Assurance of Salvation with Mark Mattes
In this episode, Kelsi chats with theologian Mark Mattes about his new release with 1517 Publishing, Ditching the Checklist: Assurance of Salvation for Evangelicals (and Other Sinners). The two discuss the history and inner-workings of “Decision Theology” and why this theology ultimately leads people to the question, “Am I really saved?” without a helpful or true answer. In response, Mark suggests
Forty Facets of the Ascension with Sarah Hinlicky Wilson
Sarah Hinlicky Wilson is back to talk about her latest book, Forty Facets of the Ascension. She breaks down the two Biblical accounts of the Ascension in Luke and Acts and talks about what the ascension tells us (and what it doesn't tell us) about Jesus as well as what it means for Christians. Find her kickstarter for the book linked below! Sarah Hinlicky Wilson is a prolific author of theology, f
Legalism and the Book of Galatians with R.L. Solberg
In today’s episode, Kelsi chats with theologian and author R.L. Solberg about his apologetic ministry, which focuses on providing a defense of historical and scriptural Christianity in response to Torahism or the Hebrew Roots movement. Robert lays out some of the issues with Torahism before talking about his newest book, The Law, the Christ, and the Promise: A Verse-by-Verse Apologetics Bible Stud
A Very Friendly Debate: The Third Use of the Law
In a new segment of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi hosts theologians Robert Kolb and Steven Paulson for a debate on the third use of the law. Dr. Kolb argues the third use of the law is an essential way in which the law functions within the life of the Christian to guide them to serve and love their neighbor, or as he likes to say, to "give shape to their good works." In contrast, Dr. Paulson argues tha
A Theology of Addiction with Donavon Riley
Kelsi chats with pastor and author, Donavon Riley, about his forthcoming book, The Impossible Prize: A Theology of Addiction. The book and conversation explore how Martin Luther's theology, specifically the reformation doctrine of Simul Iustus et Peccator can inform our understanding of addiction as well as recovery. Show Notes:Support 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Pod
The Craft of Preaching with Bob Hiller
Pastor Bob Hiller joins Kelsi to discuss all things preaching: what is the content and aim of preaching? How does the Lutheran definition differ from other traditions? Pastor Hiller answers all this and more.Show Notes:Support 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YoutubeMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi'
Walking through Deconstruction with Ian Harber
Kelsi chats with Christian author Ian Harber about his new book, Walking through Deconstruction: How to be a Companion in a Crisis of Faith, which details his own experience with with Christian deconstruction and return to faith.
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Good News for Church Burnouts
This week we are playing Kelsi's talk from October's 1517 HWSS conference.
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Faith and Evangelism in a Secular World with Magnus Persson
In the final Outside Ourselves episode of 2024, Kelsi interviews Pastor Magnus Persson about his personal journey from successful charismatic pastor to a minister in the Swedish Evangelical Lutheran Church. Magnus talks about what it's like pastoring in the most secular country in the world as a part of the state church and what he thinks evangelism looks like for the church moving forward.
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A Novel of the Reformation with Amy Mantravadi
In this episode, Kelsi talks with author, Amy Mantravadi, about her new historical novel Broken Bonds: A Novel of the Reformation, released by 1517 Publishing last month. Amy talks about her journey to Reformation theology and history, and why she decided to write a novel detailing the feud between Erasmus and Martin Luther which began in 1524.
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Christian Experience with Simeon Zahl
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi talks with Theologian Simeon Zahl about his book, The Holy Spirit and Christian Experience. Simeon argues there is a long history of Christian experience, particularly as it's defined by human emotion, not only throughout Christian history but also within the works of the Martin Luther and Philip Melanchthon. He has worked to reconcile liturgical traditi
The Doctrine of Election with Flame: Live from HWSS
This is a recording of the live Outside Ourselves interview with Flame at this year's HWSS conference. In this conversation, Kelsi asks Flame about how his understanding of the doctrine of election has changed.
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How Would Luther Vote? with Bruce Hillman and Adam Francisco
This week, Kelsi finishes her two-part conversation with Bruce Hillman and Adam Francisco with a look at Martin Luther's Two Kingdoms Doctrine, and especially the lefthanded or earthly realm. What did Luther think about the role of government in his day and age? Like many things with Luther, it's complicated. The show wraps up with some comparison between Augustine and Luther.
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How Would Augustine Vote? with Adam Francisco and Bruce Hillman
In today's episode, Kelsi is joined by 1517's Adam Francisco and Bruce Hillman to discuss the way in which politics and government is written about in the New Testament as well as St. Augustine's political theory. This is part 1 of a two-part conversation. The next episode will take a closer look at Martin Luther's Two Kingdom's doctrine.
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The Joy of the Trinity with Tara-Leigh Cobble
Kelsi chats with author, Tara-Leigh Cobble, about her love of Scripture as well as her book, the Joy of the Trinity.
Tara-Leigh Cobble's zeal for Biblical literacy is at the heart of everything she creates. Her goal is to help people read, understand, and love Scripture. Her daily podcast, "The Bible Recap,” guides listeners through a chronological 1-Year Bible reading plan. The podcast has over
Junk Drawer Jesus with Matt Popovits
Kelsi talks with Pastor Matt Popovits about his forthcoming book, Junk Drawer Jesus: Discarding Your Spiritual Clutter and Rediscovering the Supremacy of Grace. Matt details some of the most common misconceptions people tend to have about who God is (and what that means about them), including the ways we measure our spirituality, how we try and find our identity in our work, and that we falsely as
Psychedelics and Jesus with Ashley Lande
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi chats with author and writer, Ashley Lande about her forthcoming book, The Thing that Would Make Everything Okay Forever. In the book and in this conversation, Ashley talks about how she found Jesus Christ after years of using psychedelics.
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Deborah and the Book of Judges with Sandra Richter
Kelsi is joined by Sandra Richter to discuss the portrayal of women throughout the Old Testament before honing in on the story of Deborah in Judges 4-5, specifically. Kelsi asks Dr. Richter questions about viewing Deborah’s leadership as normative, and the role and office of prophet and prophetess throughout Scripture. Together, the two discuss the good news within the darkness of Judges and the C
American and Charismatic Christianity with Andy Squyres
In this conversation with musician and writer, Andy Squyres, Kelsi asks about Andy's theological background and why he remains a Charismatic Christian. The two talk about some of the pros and cons of the Charismatic movement, the affects of deconstruction, and their hope for the future of Christianity in America.
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Navigating Theology and Marriage with Doug Klembara
Kelsi and her husband, Doug Klembara, share how they navigated their theological differences in the early days of marriage. Together, they recount some of the major disagreements they had and how looking at Scripture and seeking out wise counsel eventually lead them to a place of agreement that has had an impact not only on their marriage, but their vocations and parenting.
Doug is an entrepreneu
The Authority of Scripture with Jacob Smith
Kelsi chats with the Reverend Jacob Smith about the authority of Scripture - how we define it and what it means for us - both Christian and non-Christian. Jacob works to define Scripture as authoritative not because it's a handbook for better living, but because it reveals Christ crucified for your sins. The two chat about Jacob's background, how he came into ministry, and the role evident
Bonus Episode: Hitchhiking with Prophets with Chad Bird
In this bonus episode, Chad Bird joins Kelsi in person to discuss his newest book, Hitchhiking with Prophets: A Ride through the Salvation Story of the Old Testament, which is out next week!
Hitchhiking with Prophets follows the characters of the Old Testament as they guide us to Christ. Kelsi and Chad talk about why Chad wrote this book, who the book is for, and what he hopes to leave readers w
Finding God in the Darkness with Bradley Gray
1517 Contributor and pastor, Bradley Gray, joins Kelsi to talk about his incredible book, Finding God in the Darkness: Hopeful Reflections from the Pit of Depression, Despair, and Disappointment, and specifically, how he sees God responding to suffering throughout Scripture. Bradley asserts Martin Luther's theology of the cross as a helpful backdrop by which to view all human suffering, and sp
A Theology of Relationships with Robert Kolb
In this episode, Kelsi interviews Dr. Robert Kolb about his newest book, Face to Face: Luther's View of Reality. In Face to Face, Dr. Kolb argues that Martin Luther's theology is underpinned by his understanding of relationships, both how Christians came "face to face" with God (Coram Deo) and "face to face" with the world (Coram Mundo). It's these relationships tha
Boys, Men, and the Freedom of the Gospel with Anthony Bradley
Dr. Anthony Bradley serves as a distinguished research fellow at The Acton Institute and Research Professor of Interdisciplinary and Theological Studies at Kuyper College. He joins Kelsi to discuss his research, interest, and writing on the boy and man crisis and how he believes the Christus Victor articulation of the gospel – or Christ's victory over sin, death and the devil on the cross – ha
Hope in Special-Needs Parenting with Celeste Shally
During a live recording at the HWSS NWA conference, Kelsi was joined by author Celeste Shally to discuss her book, While We Wait: Clinging to Christ in the Trenches of Special-Needs Parenting. Celeste details how her experience as a mom of Cooper, who has both autism and intellectual disability, has changed her view of suffering and vocation. She also talks about how special-needs parenting has hi
Encouragement for Motherhood with Katie Koplin
1517 Contributor, Katie Koplin, joins Kelsi to talk about her new devotional, Encouragement for Motherhood which is a compilation of devotionals for moms, written by moms. Kelsi and Katie talk about their experiences in motherhood, how mom's are often primed to hear the gospel and absolution, and how freedom in Christ allows moms to work in their vocation and love their children without lookin
Preaching the Gospel Constantly with Haroldo Camacho
1517 Contributor, Haroldo Camacho, joins Kelsi to talk about how he found himself - without any previous background in Luther's works or Lutheranism - unexpectedly translating Luther's Commentary on Galatians in both Spanish and English. Kelsi and Haroldo touch on the need to constantly hear the gospel preached and the current opportunity to proclaim the gospel in Latin America and Central
The Gospel According to Revelation with Erick Sorensen
Many of us stay away from spending too much time in the book of Revelation out of fear or intimidation. This is exactly why today’s guest, Erick Sorensen, decided to dive into the book and differing interpretations. In today’s show, Erick not only answers Kelsi’s questions on the various approaches to Revelation and Christian eschatology, but offers a guide on how to rightly read Revelation with C
Poetry, Lent, and the Hope of Easter with Rachel Welcher
Author and Poet, Rachel Welcher, joins Kelsi to talk about her collection of poems entitled, "Two Funerals, then Easter" in which Rachel shares personal stories of both grief and joy. Kelsi and Rachel talk about some of the characteristics of poetry, including honesty, double meanings and unresolved endings and how these characteristics often mirror both Scripture and the Christian life
Honesty, Humor, and the Human Condition with Andy Gullahorn
Kelsi chats with singer/songwriter, Andy Gullahorn, about his writing process and the impact of ending stories with the good news of grace and the gospel. She asks Andy about the role of honesty and humor in his music, and Andy talks about the important role community plays in his life as a source of both law and gospel.
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Perfectionism and Its Problems with Elyse Fitzpatrick
Author and speaker, Elyse Fitzpatrick, talks with Kelsi about the condemnation and accusation of the law, and as a result, how no one is able to truly achieve perfectionism. The two discuss what remedies the gospel offers us to this condemnation through Christ's perfect righteousness which is not only given through his active obedience but through his death and resurrection.
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Dying a Good Death with Ken Jones
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, pastor and professor, Ken Jones, helps tackle the question, "What Does it Mean to Die a Good Death?" His answer, of course, has much to do with life and - in particular - the new life given to us through the death and resurrection of Jesus. Using his background in 16th century funeral preaching, Kelsi and Ken also discuss how Martin Luther defined a
Understanding Biblical Prophecy with Chris Rosebrough
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi chats with Chris Rosebrough from @Fighting4theFaith about how to correctly understand biblical prophecy. Chris shares about his personal history with false prophets and his work to point people to Christ crucified for the forgiveness of sins through the Scriptures as a pastor and podcaster.
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Reading the Bible in a Year with Chad Bird
In the first episode of 2024, Kelsi chats with 1517 Scholar in Residence, Chad Bird, about the benefits to reading the Bible in a Year, some helpful and guiltless ways to approach this goal and reading Scripture in general. For the second year in a row, Chad is leading people through reading the Bible in a Year according to the Blue Letter Bible Plan.
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The Already, Now, and Not Yet of Advent with Freely Given
On today's episode, Kelsi chats with friends, Gretchen Ronnevik and Katie Koplin from the Freely Given Podcast, about the Advent season and how a fuller expansion into the three different arrivals or comings of Jesus changes how we understand and celebrate Advent.
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Illustrating the Bible with Natasha Kennedy
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi chats with illustrator Natasha Kennedy about her illustrations in the FatCat Children Series books (Lexham Press). Natasha talks about her process and the ongoing theological and artistic decisions that are necessary to bring the Bible to life.
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Marriage and Forgiveness with Harrison Scott Key
Kelsi interviews author Harrison Scott Key about his latest book, "How to Stay Married: The Most Insane Love Story Ever Told." The two discuss what daily forgiveness looks like in marriage - and other close relationships - and how honesty about our own flaws and failures is essential if we want others to be honest with us as well. Consider this an episode on all things concerning how to
Gospel Clarity with Theocast
On this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi is joined by Jon and Justin of @THEOCAST to talk about all things having to do with gospel clarity. If you haven't listened to the Theocast, consider this your introduction.
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C.S. Lewis and the Chronicles of Narnia with Michael Ward
Dr. Michael Ward is an English literary critic and theologian. He works at the University of Oxford where he is a member of the Faculty of Theology and Religion. He is the author of the award-winning Planet Narnia: The Seven Heavens in the Imagination of C.S. Lewis.
He joins Kelsi to discuss the theory behind Planet Narnia which asserts that C.S. Lewis intentionally tied each of his seven Chroni
Law, Gospel, and the Parables with Daniel Emery Price
Kelsi and Daniel Emery Price talk about the function and telos of the law and the gospel before jumping into Dan’s book, Scandalous Stories: A Sort of Commentary on the Parables, and their discussion on what can go wrong when reading the parables and the reason Jesus uses them in the first place. Daniel Emery Price is the 1517 Operations Executive. He is also an author, church and conference speak
Vocation and Evangelism with Loso
Loso is a hip-hop recording artist and one of the world's top battle rappers. He chats with Kelsi about what it looks like to be a Christian within the world of battle rap, the importance of authentic relationships when it comes to evangelism, and how vocation doesn't always include having a five year plan for your life.
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The Doctrine of Creation with Lydia Jaeger
Dr. Lydia Jaeger discusses her book, Ordinary Splendor, with Kelsi and the implications of the doctrine of creation for the Christian's life. She answers Kelsi's questions about why a Biblical doctrine of creation is helpful and necessary for understanding who God is and what good gifts he gives us.
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Mental Illness and the Gospel with John Bryant
This week’s episode is a conversation between author John Bryant and Kelsi about John’s new book (out in September), A Quiet Mind to Suffer With: Mental Illness, Trauma, and the Death of Christ. John writes about what Christ’s suffering on the cross means for his own suffering with obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). He talks to Kelsi about why he decided to write the book and how healing and rec
Christian Parenting and the Future of the Church with Melina Smith
As Gen Z and Gen Alpha grow into adolescence and early adulthood, what hope should we have for the future of the church? Founder and Executive Director of Storymakers, Melina Smith, joins Kelsi to talk about the Storymakers approach to teaching kids about the historical Christian faith through connection, empathy, and trust that the Holy Spirit works wherever God’s word is preached.
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Aliens and Christianity with Adam Francisco
In view of recent news events, Kelsi has Adam Francisco on to the theological implications of the existence of aliens and UAPs. Adam Francisco is Director of Academics and scholar in residence at 1517. He earned his DPhil from the University of Oxford and has two decades of experience teaching history, philosophy, and theology. He is cohost of The Thinking Fellows podcast, author of a number of bo
The Relationship Between Faith and Reason with David Andersen
Author David Andersen joins Kelsi to discuss his book, "What Can We Really Know? The Strengths and Limits of Human Understanding" and how the study of knowledge leads us to some inevitable truths about ourselves and the limits of knowledge, in general. The discussion then turns to the relationship between reason and faith and the assertion that, as Christian's, it important we recogn
The Limits and Expanse of Christian Belief with Sarah Hinlicky Wilson
Sarah Hinlicky Wilson joins Kelsi to talk about her new novel, A Tumblin' Down, the good and bad of church community, and how the Christian belief isn't always best defined by our own self-reflection. Sarah is Associate Pastor at Tokyo Lutheran Church and the Founder of Thornbush Press.
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Living as Sinners and Saints with Steven Paulson
Kelsi speaks with 1517 Senior Scholar in Residence, Dr. Steven Paulson, about the somewhat understated and yet essential Reformation idea that the Christian is simul iustus et peccator (simul), or simultaneously sinner and saint in this life.
Dr. Paulson clarifies that the simul is not a matter of progress but instead the action of Christ separating two distinct wholes in us further and further
The Art of Gospel Communication with Tanner Olson
Author and poet, Tanner Olson, joins Kelsi to talk about creativity and communicating hope. Together, Tanner and Kelsi discuss the difference between delivering the gospel directly and indirectly and the importance of both.
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Identity and Holistic Spirituality with John Kleinig
Theologian and Biblical Scholar, John Kleinig, joins Kelsi to discuss his book, Wonderfully Made, and the vision the Bible gives us for God's redemptive plan as a wholly physical, spiritual, mental, and emotional endeavor. He talks about the dangers in splintering portions of our humanness and discusses how he approaches healing from a pastoral perspective.
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