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Integrated Rhythm

Integrated Rhythm

Chisomo & Bobby 68 Episodes Oct 13, 2026

Integrated Rhythm is a conversational podcast in which two friends explore race and the Black experience within jazz dance and other Afro-centric social dance forms. It is hosted by Chisomo Selemani, an associate professor and Zambian heritage swing dancer, and Bobby White, a world champion swing dancer, instructor and historian. Episodes feature guests from the dance community and mix serious discussion of difficult subjects with bad puns and the occasional song. The stated aim is to make conversations about uncomfortable things feel comfortable and open.

Episodes

63: Let's Chisomo Our Way Through This
63: Let's Chisomo Our Way Through This Oct 13, 2026 00:55:30 Chisomo discusses the concept of microaggressions with Bobby, and they have kind of a fun therapy session. Thanks so much to our Patreon Patrons!Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van EnisKatja AlexandriaJuly BelberRebecca BurWeiDee MathewsBrooks PrumoJessie BrooksAryn KellyAudrey BuiIan DawsonKaren Compos McCormackAmy SorensonNika JinEmily BenzeAngel JenioNick CruickshankTaylor StenderLeila GassSelena Kru
62: A Great Place to Do a Little Gender (w HELEN GARFINKLE & MAX RAMIREZ)
62: A Great Place to Do a Little Gender (w HELEN GARFINKLE & MAX RAMIREZ) Sep 2, 2026 01:19:00 HELEN GARFINKLE & MAX RAMIREZ take us on a journey, exploring trans life in the current swing scene. Thanks so much to our Patreon Patrons!Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van EnisKatja AlexandriaJuly BelberRebecca BurWeiDee MathewsBrooks PrumoJessie BrooksAryn KellyAudrey BuiIan DawsonKaren Compos McCormackAmy SorensonNika JinEmily BenzeAngel JenioNick CruickshankTaylor StenderLeila GassSelena Kruse
61: Bouncing at the Savoy
61: Bouncing at the Savoy Jul 14, 2026 01:34:13 Celebrate 100 years of the Savoy Ballroom with this special Swing-You-Should-Know episode!Thanks so much to our Patreon Patrons!Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van EnisKatja AlexandriaJuly BelberRebecca BurWeiDee MathewsBrooks PrumoJessie BrooksAryn KellyAudrey BuiIan DawsonKaren Compos McCormackAmy SorensonNika JinEmily BenzeAngel JenioNick CruickshankTaylor StenderLeila GassSelena KruseRyan LemarCalTa
60: Two Things Can Be True At The Same Time (w/ SHANI BROWN & BRITTNEY CARAWAY)
60: Two Things Can Be True At The Same Time (w/ SHANI BROWN & BRITTNEY CARAWAY) Mar 10, 2026 01:27:55 (With longtime SoCal dancer BRITTNEY CARAWAY and International Bal and Lindy dancer SHANI BROWN.)Marge Takier -- Southern California Balboa and Lindy Hop old timer, incredible DJ, and co-founder of Bobby McGee's dance parties in the 70s-2000s, was part of a group of elderly original dancers that welcomed hundreds of new, younger dancers into the world of swing dance. A few, though, didn't
59: The Tale of a Bromance (w A.J. HOWARD and TIM CHRISTOPHER
59: The Tale of a Bromance (w A.J. HOWARD and TIM CHRISTOPHER Jan 29, 2026 00:52:51 Incredible dancers TIM CHRISTOPHER and A.J. HOWARD joined us in front of a LIVE audience at LINDY FOCUS '25. We discuss how music shaped Tim's dancing, why A.J. loves air steps, why their friendship is important as two Black men in the scene. We also get a "hot take" from both of them. PATRONSThanks so much to our Patreon Patrons!Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van EnisKatja Alexandria
58: LinD&D
58: LinD&D Dec 24, 2025 02:32:40 A special holiday treat for these dark times! (Also parents: Bad language in these here hills!)Join some international instructors for a special game of DnD full of battles, mule-ports, gatekeepers, lin-fected hordes, and the IRLHC Championships! Come with us to the land of Yavos!CASTANTHONY CHEN --- St. Savoy, a DwarfAJ HOWARD --- Big B, a half-orcLAUREL RYAN --- Alayon Trainer / "A-Train,&q
57: We-Andering (w/ CHRISTI JAY WELLS)
57: We-Andering (w/ CHRISTI JAY WELLS) Nov 30, 2025 01:37:15 Professor and author of "Between Beats: The Jazz Tradition and Black Vernacular Dance" joined us at our little house at Herrang '25 to discuss Marshall Stearns, jazz academia, teaching history, helping camps do better, ally-ship, and other things. It was so good we had to keep it all.And of course, huge thanks to our patrons! (You can find us on patreon!)Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van
56: Looks Like Magic to Me (w/ DOMINIC HANNA & MATT RICHEY)
56: Looks Like Magic to Me (w/ DOMINIC HANNA & MATT RICHEY) Oct 2, 2025 00:41:06 In this episode we talk to two professional Balboa instructors, DOMINIC HANNA and MATT RICHEY. Wediscuss what makes them love Balboa, what their current missions are as instructors in the scene, and what a welcoming dance scene looks like to Dominic (a Black American man) and Matt (a Queer man).   And of course, huge thanks to our patrons! (You can find us on patreon!)Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van
55: Capital-T Tired (w/DEE DANIELS LOCKE & TYEDRIC HILL)
55: Capital-T Tired (w/DEE DANIELS LOCKE & TYEDRIC HILL) Jul 30, 2025 01:04:57 LIVE FROM HERRANG '25! We talk with Black American Lindy Hop instructors DEE DANIELS LOCKE and TYEDRIC HILL about the modern life of a Black Lindy Hop professional. And of course, huge thanks to our patrons! (You can find us on patreon!)Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van EnisKatja AlexandriaJuly BelberRebecca BurWeiDee MathewsBrooks PrumoJessie BrooksAryn KellyAudrey BuiIan DawsonKaren ComposMcCorm
54: The Conundrum of Mabel & Lee
54: The Conundrum of Mabel & Lee Jun 4, 2025 00:43:36 Chi-Chi and Bobby discuss a conundrum that many dancers may face. Layers and layers! (Title has no relation to the actual incredible Black American dancer, singer, and all-around entertainer Mabel Lee. It was something that popped into our heads and we went with it in the episode.)And of course, huge thanks to our patrons! (You can find us on patreon!)Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie van EnisKatja Alexan
39 [Special Rerelease]: I LOVE Fabric (w/DONNA M'SHANGA and LAURA WINDLEY)
39 [Special Rerelease]: I LOVE Fabric (w/DONNA M'SHANGA and LAURA WINDLEY) Apr 29, 2025 01:34:04 [This is a rerelease of Episode 39! Which we took off neeeding to tackle some editing problems. But it should be good now!]Singer, fashionista, and co-leader of the Mint Julep Jazz Band LAURA WINDLEY loves to make her own clothing. One day she got some African fabric from a friend. As a White American woman, what should she do with it? We call in an expert, DONNA M'SHANGA, co-founder of Zambia
53: The Woodside 5 (w/ LAUREL RYAN, JAVIER JOHNSON, & CARLA HEINEY)
53: The Woodside 5 (w/ LAUREL RYAN, JAVIER JOHNSON, & CARLA HEINEY) Mar 25, 2025 01:01:18 Chi-Chi and Bobby join fellow instructors LAUREL RYAN, JAVIER JOHNSON, and CARLA HEINEY to discuss a myriad of topics at this LIVE BEANTOWN episode! (...from 2023.) To those who don't know, LAUREL is a Black American woman instructor known for her Lindy Hop, solo jazz, and MCing, JAVIER (pronounced with a "J" as is his preference) is a Black American man instructor best known as a Ba

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