
Unmuted Education Podcast
Unmuted Education Podcast features three friends with different worldviews—one religious, one spiritual, and one atheist—discussing topics like parenting, education, leadership, and personal growth. They aim for open, honest conversations without filters or echo chambers. The show mixes thoughtful dialogue and laughter while encouraging listeners to reflect and learn from one another.
Episodes

Episode 49 (Healing Beyond the Body: Yesenia’s Cancer Journey Part Three)
Healing from a serious diagnosis isn't always just about what shows up on a scan or in a blood test.In Part Three of Yesenia's breast cancer journey, Coebie and Yes move into a much more personal conversation about the emotional, relational, and spiritual experiences that have surfaced along the way.The episode begins with an update from Yesenia's oncology follow-up, including recent b

Episode 48 (Beyond the Diagnosis: Yesenia’s Personal Approach to Healing)
After a cancer diagnosis, what comes next?In Part Two of Yesenia’s story, Coebie sits down with her again to talk about the changes she chose to make after surgery and the research that shaped her personal approach to health and recovery.Following her breast cancer diagnosis and lumpectomy, Yesenia began looking closely at nearly every part of her lifestyle — nutrition, exercise, stress, supplemen

Episode 47 (Stand in Your Truth: One Woman’s Cancer Journey and the Power of Self-Advocacy)
What happens when a cancer diagnosis suddenly puts you into a world of appointments, specialists, recommendations, decisions, and fear?In this episode, Coebie sits down with Yesenia to talk about her breast cancer diagnosis and the deeply personal journey that followed.Before her diagnosis, Yesenia had spent nearly 20 years working in health and wellness. At 44, she set a goal of getting into the

Episode 46 (Love Doesn’t Mean Rescue: Letting Kids Do Hard Things)
What does it really mean to “have your kid’s back”?Does it mean stepping in every time something feels unfair? Calling the coach? Fighting the teacher? Fixing the problem?Or does love sometimes mean standing beside your child while they work through something difficult themselves?In this episode, Coebie and Derek continue their parenting series with a conversation about love, grace, competition, d

Episode 45 (Tell Me the Truth: Raising Kids Who Don’t Have to Hide)
Every kid lies.The bigger question is: What do we do when they do?In this episode, Coebie and Derek continue their parenting series with a conversation about truth, trust, consequences, and why holding kids accountable to reality is an important part of helping them feel safe.Drawing from their experiences as parents and former school administrators, they talk about watching children test boundari

Episode 44 (Parenting With Humility: Letting Your Kids See You Be Wrong)
What happens when your kid is right… and you’re the one who needs to own it?In this episode, Coebie and Derek continue their conversation about parenting by tackling something that can be incredibly difficult for parents: humility.They share personal stories about losing patience, holding onto frustration, criticizing the people we love, and realizing that sometimes our kids are seeing our behavio

Episode 43 (Every Kid Needs a Model: What Our Children Learn From Watching Us)
Derek and Coebie continue their conversation on parenting by getting personal about one of the most powerful influences in a child’s life: the example set by the adults around them.In this episode, they share some of their own worst—and best—parenting moments, from losing patience and using the wrong words to being overly critical, worrying too much, and recognizing their own behaviors reflected b

Episode 42 (They Learn From What We Do: The Power of Modeling in Parenting)
Children are always watching, even when parents do not realize it.In this episode of Unmuted, Coebie and Derek explore the first universal principle of parenting: modeling. They reflect honestly on their own parenting mistakes, emotional triggers, communication habits, and the behaviors they have unintentionally passed down to their children.From handling dishonesty and frustration to interacting

Bonus Episode: Christopher Driesang on Education, Local Control and Representing House District 35
House District 35 Republican candidate Christopher Driesang joins the Unmuted crew for a wide-ranging conversation about education, local control and the future of representation in Natrona County.Drawing from his experience as an educator and Director of Student Support Services for Natrona County Schools, Christopher discusses how decisions made by the Wyoming Legislature affect teachers, studen

Bonus Episode : “The Republican That Comes With Receipts” | Julie Jarvis on Re-Election & Wyoming Politics
Representative Julie Jarvis joins Unmuted to talk about her re-election campaign, the realities of serving in Wyoming’s citizen legislature, and why transparency has become the cornerstone of her campaign.From campaign misinformation and constituent surveys to water rights, AI data centers, education, and healthcare, this conversation dives into the issues facing Wyoming and why Julie believes vot

Episode 41 (Your Children Are Watching: The Importance of Modeling)
In this episode of Unmuted, Coebie and Derek begin a new conversation about the principles that shape healthy parenting. Drawing from nearly 50 years of combined experience in education, along with their own experiences as fathers, they explore how children learn far more from what adults model than from what adults say.They discuss parental humility, emotional regulation, apologizing after mistak

Bonus: Unmuted Returns (Season Two, the Casper Youth Hub, and What Comes Next)
Unmuted is officially back.In this special season two preview, Kobe, Derek, and Seth reconnect to share what they have been working on and what listeners can expect from the new season. Seth gives an emotional update on the grand opening of the Casper Youth Hub, a free creative space where young people ages 12 to 20 can explore art, gaming, media, technology, 3D printing, and other hands-on intere

Episode 40 (Practice Equals Growth: Rebuilding Education Through Trust, Coaching, and Community)
In this episode, Coebie, Seth, and Derek sit down with longtime educator and author Grover Swick to talk about what it really means to inspire students, build learning communities, and help kids believe in their own growth. Grover shares stories from more than three decades in education, including the teachers, family members, and students who shaped his philosophy.The conversation explores how at

Episode 39 (The Whole-Body Tune-Up: Acupuncture, Chinese Medicine, and Learning to Listen to Your Body)
In this episode, Coebie and Derek sit down with Alicia Bynum, owner of Sweetgrass Acupuncture in Casper, Wyoming, for a wide-ranging conversation about acupuncture, Chinese medicine, herbs, intuition, and whole-person wellness. Alicia shares her journey from graphic design and marketing into acupuncture, the personal experiences that led her toward holistic care, and how traditional Chinese medici

Episode 38 (Cathy and Brandy Go to Cheyenne: How HB 8 and HB 9 Became Law)
Cathy Holman and Brandy Sorensen return to share the powerful story behind Wyoming’s HB 8 and HB 9, two new laws aimed at protecting children from stalking and grooming. They walk through the emotional, exhausting, and unexpected journey from committee hearings to unanimous votes, the governor’s signature, and the real impact these laws are already having for Wyoming families. This episode is a lo

Episode 37 (How Natrona Lost the Table)
In this episode, we sit down with longtime Natrona County educator Doreen McGlade to trace the origins of the district’s compact and the trust-based, consensus-driven process it was meant to protect. From its roots in the turmoil of 1999 to today’s concerns over school closures, broken communication, and missing stakeholder voices, this conversation asks a hard question: what happens when a system

Episode 36 (The Sandlot Comes to Wyoming: Grant Gelt on Baseball, Nostalgia, and Community)
In this special episode, we sit down with Grant Gelt, best known as Bertram from The Sandlot, for a fun and heartfelt conversation about the lasting legacy of the film, lifelong friendships with the cast, and how that childhood classic has grown into something bigger than baseball. Grant shares the story behind Play Forever, a nonprofit founded by members of The Sandlot cast that helps remove barr

Episode 35 (Natural Healing, Herbal Wisdom, and Alpenglow Natural Living with Terri)
In this episode, we welcome Terri, owner of Alpenglow Natural Living in Casper, Wyoming, to talk about her journey from education into natural healing and herbal wellness. Terri shares how personal experiences with her children’s health, family healing stories, and her own recovery from a serious injury led her deeper into natural medicine and eventually to taking over one of Casper’s long-standin

Episode 34 (From School Counseling to Cold-Pressed Wellness: Anna Studer of The Lovely Lemon)
In this episode, we take a refreshing break from our usual education-focused conversations to talk health, wellness, and community impact with Anna Studer, owner of The Lovely Lemon in Casper, Wyoming. Anna shares how her personal journey with juicing, motherhood, and health led her from school counseling into entrepreneurship, and how Casper helped turn her passion into a thriving local business.

Episode 33 (Charter Schools in Wyoming: What They Are, How They Work, and What’s Next)
With school closures stirring anxiety for parents across Natrona County, the conversation turns to one big question: what other options are there? In this episode, the hosts sit down with Joe Feiler—a 35-year education veteran, former CTE teacher, and current member of the Wyoming Charter School Authorization Board—to break down what charter schools actually are in Wyoming (and what they’re not).J

Episode 32 (From Jetsons to Westworld: When AI Gets Useful—and When It Gets Scary)
Cody Sullivan returns and the conversation goes from light jokes to big questions fast. The crew debates whether AI is “smarter” than humans, why our brains run on about 12 watts while AI gulps city-sized power, and what happens when automation doesn’t just replace jobs—but replaces purpose. From robot caregivers (Jetsons) and sci-fi warnings (Westworld, Ex Machina, Subservience) to real-world con

Episode 31 (The Wellness Way: Why We Test, Not Guess with Dr. Isaac Castellanos)
The hosts shift into the wellness space with special guest Dr. Isaac Castellanos, a chiropractor and former Fleet Marine Force Corpsman whose path into healthcare began in high school volunteering in the ER and running emergency calls with a California fire department. Isaac shares how years in emergency medicine, deployments, and repeated exposure to seriously ill and injured children shaped his

Episode 30 (Taking Ownership of Education: A Conversation on Homeschooling and Connection)
In this episode, the hosts sit down with Cross True—homeschooled K–12 and now planning to homeschool his own children—to unpack why more families are considering homeschooling and what it actually looks like day to day. The conversation avoids “anti-public school” framing and instead focuses on the real questions parents are asking: safety and peer environments, moral formation, family connection,

Episode 29 (CTE: The Workforce We Can’t Afford to Lose)
In this episode of Unmuted, we’re joined by Rob Hill and Andy Elston for a candid conversation about Career & Technical Education (CTE) and the urgent workforce gap facing Wyoming.Rob shares his path from the trades into teaching and workforce policy, and Andy explains how early hands-on experience turned into a career in engineering and building systems across the state. Together, we break do

Bonus Episode (What Recalibration Could Mean for Teachers: Class Sizes, Cuts, and Categorical Funding)
Julie Jarvis returns with a boots-on-the-ground legislative update as Wyoming heads into session—and the stakes for public education are high. In this episode, the crew breaks down the Wyoming school funding “recalibration” bill and why Julie believes the current proposal could reshape classrooms across the state.Julie explains recalibration in plain terms, then highlights key concerns educators s

Transparency Test: The Records Request Runaround
In this stripped-down, two-host check-in, Seth and Coebie pull listeners behind the scenes of their ongoing public records fight with Natrona County School District. They break down two key requests: who authored the Barnon and Woods school closure recommendation documents (and the broader facilities recommendation), and policies tied to class waitlists and student absences—and why the lack of cle

Episode 28 Problem Based Learning with Don Anderson
On this episode the team talks with don anderson about his implementation of problem based learning and his transition from college to k-12 teaching.

HB9: Closing the Grooming Loophole — Brandy Sorensen’s Fight to Protect Wyoming Kids
In this episode of Unmuted, we sit down with Brandy Sorensen—Wyoming mom, realtor, and advocate—to unpack House Bill 9 (HB9), a proposal aimed at making the grooming of minors a felony. Brandy shares how her family’s experience exposed legal gaps, what “grooming” looks like before it crosses current criminal thresholds, and why protections for kids can’t rely on “it’s concerning, but not illegal.”

Bonus Episode (The Petition, What Happens Next: Woods & Bar Nunn School Closures)
After the district’s decision to close Woods Learning Center and Bar Nunn Elementary, Seth and Coebie explain why they launched a petition—and why transparency matters, especially when families feel blindsided. Joined by Eric Nelsen, they unpack the petition process, what the school board can (and might) do next, and what the community is asking for moving forward: clearer analysis, better communi

Episode 27 (Same Goal, Different Path: Rethinking Discipline w/ Ted Hanson
In this episode, I chat with Ted Hanson about the complexities of behavior and discipline in education, building on our previous discussion. We explore the importance of understanding each child's unique background and context when addressing behavioral issues. Ted emphasizes a nuanced approach to disciplinary methods, debating corporal punishment versus positive reinforcement while highlighting s

Episode 26 (Grit, Grace, and a Broken System w/ Prairie Wife in Heels)
In this episode of Unmuted, we sit down with Cathy Holman, known to many as Prairie Wife and Heels, to talk about a story no family should ever have to live through: an adult stalking and harassing a minor through fake numbers, impersonation, and calculated attacks meant to isolate and destabilize kids.Cathy shares how it started, how long it lasted, and what it did to her daughter, her family, an

Episode 25 (Artificial Intelligence, Real Consequences: A Foundational Conversation w/ Cody Sulivan)
This episode features Cody Sullivan discussing his journey into artificial intelligence as a product change manager at Mesa Power Solutions. The conversation covers the evolution of AI, the distinction between traditional and modern applications, and the concept of AI "hallucinations." The hosts explore human versus artificial intelligence and the implications of AI in education, stressi

Episode 24 (Permission to Create — Ditching the one-path myth with Whitney Asay and Ari Burback)
In this interview, Whitney Asay discusses her journey from a family photography business to becoming a community advocate and entrepreneur. She reflects on her experiences in education, emphasizing the challenges faced by marginalized students and the need for understanding socioeconomic factors in learning. Whitney shares the creation of Funky Junk, a platform supporting local artisans, and how i

Episode 23 (No Voice, No Vote, No $$$: Send Your Funding Where You’re Heard - Wyoming Virtual Academy - a better option)
When districts stop listening, families have another option — take their kids, and the dollars that follow them, to schools that do. We sit down with Lisa Williams, principal of the Wyoming Virtual Academy and State Board of Education member, to talk about transparency, accountability, and why families across Wyoming are choosing schools that actually listen.

Addendum 3: "Bottlenecks to Breakthroughs — The real job of an administrator"
In this episode, we explore the crucial role of school administrators in removing barriers that hinder effective learning. Inspired by Shane's insights, we discuss how educational leaders can navigate systemic challenges by embodying qualities like humility and clear communication. The conversation emphasizes collaborative problem-solving, encouraging educators to suggest solutions and fosteri

Addendum 2: "Life Ready - The School That Put Students in Charge" - Shane Ogden Interview
In this episode, Shane Ogden, Superintendent of Meeteetse, Wyoming, discusses his transformative vision for education focused on problem-based learning and student-led initiatives. He shares insights on the implementation of programs like Genius Hour, fostering a culture of professional development among teachers, and engaging students in their learning experiences. Shane critiques standardized te

Episode 22 (Beyond the Headline: What We Really Said About School Closures)
In this episode, we critically analyze a Casper Star Tribune article about our community's school closures, emphasizing the need for accurate media representation. Joined by Seth and Derek, we discuss our petition advocating for educational continuity and community engagement. We highlight the importance of schools as community hubs and the necessity for collaborative decision-making that incl

Addendum 1: “Behind the Desk — The Hidden Responsibilities of a Superintendent
The interview features Deb, the superintendent of Fremont County School District 21 in Fort Washakie, Wyoming. Deb begins by outlining her typical day, emphasizing the diverse responsibilities a superintendent holds that often go unrecognized by the public. She notes that her work starts with daily meetings, including those with staff members across various departments, including transportation, f

Episode 21 (The Meeteetse Model: Family-First, Student-Led, Community-Built)
This episode features a compelling discussion with my co-hosts, Seth and Derek, about our transformative field trip to Meeteetse, focused on the role of leadership in education. We explore insights gained from interviewing 48 superintendents and visiting Shane Ogden's school, where collaboration and community feedback are prioritized. The emphasis on project-based learning and life skills over sta

Finding Your Inner Calm: Integrative Healing with Nurse Practitioner Lynn Misch
Lynn Misch, a family nurse practitioner with nearly 40 years of experience, discusses her health journey and her upcoming wellness summit focused on cultivating inner calm. She shares insights from her cancer diagnosis that led her to explore integrative health practices and the importance of addressing burnout in healthcare. The summit, occurring from December 1 to December 12, will feature exper

Not Muted: Community Voice, School Closures, and Media Spin
In this episode, we analyze a contentious article from the Casper Star Tribune regarding school closures in Natrona County. Joined by Derek and Seth, we reflect on how media language shapes public perception and misrepresents our intentions. We clarify our commitment to meaningful discourse about educational choices rather than sensationalism. Highlighting the community-driven petition, we emphasi

Episode 20 (Ted Hanson — Relationships Before Rules): Trauma-Informed Special Ed
In this episode, I speak with Ted Hanson, Deputy Executive Director at BOCES 5, about his journey in special education. Ted emphasizes the importance of building relationships with students, especially those from trauma backgrounds, and discusses the unique challenges faced by BOCES 5 in providing comprehensive services. We explore the impacts of trauma on behavior and the necessity of adopting tr

Episode 19 (After the Announcement w/ Beth and Abby)
When a school closes, the loss is real for students, families, educators, and the neighborhoods around them. In this conversation, Beth, Abby, Seth, and Kobe talk about what happens inside us after news like this and how to move through it with care and intention.We name what grief can look like, why uncertainty fuels anxiety, and how timely information helps. We also explore how leaders and recei

Tech Tips - Wait, That’s a Real Punctuation Mark‽
In this episode, we explore the unique punctuation mark known as the interrobang, which marries a question mark with an exclamation point. I share my personal journey in educational technology, reflecting on my experiences as a classroom teacher and principal, while my colleague Seth introduces me to the interrobang, prompting an engaging discussion about its history and significance. We delve int

Episode 18 - Classroom Discipline
In this episode, I explore the complexities of discipline in the classroom, drawing from my experiences as a former educator. We question the educator's role in discipline and emphasize the importance of building respectful relationships with students. I share personal anecdotes illustrating the challenges of gaining respect, while co-host Derek offers strategies for fostering rapport.We discu

Episode 17 - Failing Up
In this episode titled "Failing Up," we address the alarming trend of educational institutions prioritizing promotion over actual learning. Starting with a listener's account of high schools as diploma mills, we discuss the ethics of passing unprepared students and the impact of ineffective leadership in education. We highlight the need for a fundamental shift in educational philosop

Recess Talk and Exciting New updates
In this episode, we delve into the recent transformations taking place not just in our podcast space but also in our broader approach to content creation. The discussion kicks off with an entertaining dialogue about the mall's revitalization, providing a light-hearted backdrop that mirrors our own changes. As we explore the influx of new stores and shifting ownership dynamics, it serves as a m

Episode 16 - From Saddle to Statehouse: JD Williams on “Keeping Wyoming, Wyoming”
In this episode, J.D. Williams, a key player in Wyoming politics and a seasoned rancher, discusses his upbringing in a conservative ranching family and the values of hard work and self-reliance that shaped him. He reflects on his transition from cowboying to community service, emphasizing that true leadership is about serving others.J.D. addresses challenges facing Wyoming, including the influence

Live Recess Talk (School Closures)
In this episode, we explore the complexities of school management and community engagement amid recent school closures. We discuss concerns from parents and educators about transparency in decision-making and the tension between standardized testing and nurturing creativity in schools. Highlighting the need for smaller educational settings, we address how bureaucracy can hinder innovation and comm

Episode 15 (Julie Jarvis - Understanding Literacy)
In this episode, I talk with Julie Jarvis, an educator and curriculum director, about her journey through the educational system. We discuss her challenges and triumphs in literacy, emphasizing the need for explicit reading instruction and effective assessment strategies. Julie shares insights from her doctoral research and her work advocating for literacy reforms in Wyoming. Our conversation also

Emergency Bonus Episode (Dirk and School Closures)
On this episode we answer listener feedback about school closures in Natrona County

Episode 14 (Dirk and the Compact)
On this episode we answer some questions by you about the Compact in Natrona County School District

Where is the love Bonus Episode
In this episode, we discuss the societal implications following the passing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, exploring reactions of celebration and the quest for sympathy amidst controversial views. We critique social media's role in amplifying division and echo chambers, and reflect on the historical context of public reactions. Highlighting the need for education on empathy and ethi

Teachers are asking "What About Our Raises" w/ Julie Jarvis
Julie Jarvis discusses misconceptions about teacher raises in Wyoming, specifically an 8.5% increase proposed for certified and non-certified staff. She explains the state's school funding structure, which allocates funds based on Average Daily Membership (ADM) and Full-Time Equivalents (FTEs). The conversation highlights disparities in how the raise is distributed across districts, with small

Episode 12 (Shawna and the Jae Foundation)
In this episode, I chat with Shauna Trujillo about mental health and community support. Transitioning from teaching to grant management at Casper College, Shauna discusses her work with the Jay Foundation, which raises awareness about mental health and suicide prevention following the loss of Jay Bing.We explore initiatives like providing cowboy boots to graduating seniors as symbols of connection

Episode 11 (Twins Redefining Education)
In this powerful episode of Unmutted, identical twin educators Abby and Beth share their groundbreaking approach to teaching, revealing the transformative power of partnership, emotional intelligence, and human-centered learning. They candidly discuss their journey from co-teaching in elementary classrooms to pursuing advanced degrees in neuroscience and mental health, challenging traditional educ

Episode 10 (Why Derek Left Education)
The interview explores Derek's extensive journey in education, from his academic background and initial inspiration to teach, to his various roles, including instructional facilitator and assistant principal. He discusses challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, which prompted a move to Wyoming, and shares insights into the complexities of school leadership, emphasizing the importance of

Episode 9 (One Year Only W/ Dirk Andrews)
In this episode, Dirk Andrews, Vice President of the Wyoming Education Association, discusses the challenges facing Wyoming's education system, particularly the detrimental effects of the one-year-only contract system for teachers in Natrona County. He emphasizes the negative impact of high turnover rates on student outcomes and community ties, and critiques the financial motivations driving these

Episode 8 (Ari Burback, a 22-year-old fashion entrepreneur)
Ari Burback, a 22-year-old fashion entrepreneur from Casper, Wyoming, shares her journey as a clothing designer focused on upcycling in this episode of "Unmuted." She discusses her experiences at major fashion events and reflects on her educational path, highlighting the constraints of traditional learning and the influence of inspiring teachers. Ari advocates for practical education tha

Episode 7 (I Won't Wait to Live: Breaking Free from Educational Burnout)
Join hosts Coebie and Seth as they sit down with Kristie Benabisi, a former school support staff member who shares her transformative journey from feeling stuck in a traditional education role to embracing a life of passion, purpose, and personal freedom. Kristie opens up about her experiences in schools, the challenges of burnout, and how she courageously chose to rewrite her life's narrative, of

Back to School with Abby and Beth
In this episode, we explore the crucial topic of preparing for the back-to-school season with insights from experienced educators Abby Bishop and Beth Corley. We discuss the emotional challenges parents face, especially those sending children to kindergarten for the first time, and the shift in educational standards that have made early schooling more rigorous. The conversation highlights the impo

Episode 6 (Religious Public Charters)
Derek and Coebie discuss the potential impact of the Supreme Court's decision to allow the first public religious charter school, which is Catholic. They debate the historical separation of church and state in education, questioning whether it's necessary or beneficial. Derek argues that education should incorporate philosophy and theology, while Coebie emphasizes the need for a moral foundation i

Episode 5 (Pre-K)
Unmuted podcast focusing on early childhood education and parenting. The episode features two preschool educators, Alice and Dolly, who discuss significant changes in child development, social-emotional skills, and parenting approaches. They explore challenges like increased technology use, decreased social interaction, and the importance of teaching children basic skills like manners, self-help a

Episode 4 (Bureaucracy in Education)
In this eye-opening episode of Unmuted, educators Coebie, Derek, and Seth dive deep into the bureaucratic maze of modern education. They explore how excessive policies, documentation, and fear-driven procedures are suffocating the human element of teaching. From hiring practices that push out talented educators, to leadership approaches that prioritize paperwork over student needs, the conversatio

Bonus Episode (Recess Talk)
This podcast, titled "Recess," is an informal, unstructured conversation between colleagues discussing various topics, primarily focusing on AI, technology, and business opportunities. In this episode, they discuss Derek's new job, a road trip for a Bitcoin mining project, and potential AI-driven business ideas, including an automated phone assistant for a bakery and an AI-powered educational less

Bonus Episode (Nathan Unmuted)
🎉 BONUS EPISODE 🎉 Normally exclusive to our Patreon supporters, we're releasing this powerful conversation for all listeners!In this eye-opening episode, former teacher and law enforcement officer Nathan reveals the harsh realities of today's education system. Hear a candid, insider's perspective on the systemic challenges facing teachers, including moral dilemmas, administrative press

Episode 3 (Interview w/ Nathan on Leaving Education)
After a 10 plus years in education, many educators are starting to leave the field. In this episode Nathan shares while he is leaving education and not turning back.

Episode 2 (Teacher Burnout)
This episode takes listeners behind the scenes with Principal Coebie and Assistant Principal Derek as they candidly discuss the challenges facing educators today. Joined by outside perspective Seth, they unpack the complex world of teacher burnout - exploring everything from classroom pressures to administrative challenges. With 31 years of experience and raw, unfiltered conversations, this podcas

Episode 1 (Interview w/ Coebie on Resigning Part 1)
Coebie, a principal with 31 years of experience, recently retired on June 30, 2025. She discussed her emotional journey, including the challenges of balancing intuitive leadership with data-driven policies, the impact of school closures and COVID-19, and the frustration with one-year-only contracts for new teachers. Coebie emphasized the importance of valuing and supporting children and teachers,

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