Counter-Points is a Counter-Strike talk show. It is hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields and Jacob "Pimp" Winneche. The show covers the professional Counter-Strike scene, including teams, players, matches, and tournaments. Episodes feature discussion and analysis of current events in competitive Counter-Strike. It is aimed at fans following the esport.
Episodes
FURIA's Two Trophies Mean LESS Than You Think
Thorin and Pimp reappraise FURIA after back to back trophies, and ask whether two titles against BetBoom and Nemiga actually move the Brazilians into the Singapore major favorites conversation.Huel: Limited Time Offer, Make healthy eating simple. Get Huel today with our exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with our code LFN at https://huel.com/LFN. New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel for partnering
NAVI Have STOPPED The Bleeding
Thorin and Pimp open on NAVI, the team everyone wrote off a month ago, and argue the free fall has stopped even if nobody is ready to call them contenders again at the Singapore major.PrizePicks: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/COUNTER and use code COUNTER and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup!LFN Premium: Submit your own topics through the Discord, go ad-free across the network, a
FURIA Won And NOTHING Changed
Thorin and Pimp open on FURIA winning the Thunderpick World Championship and FalleN finally lifting the trophy everyone spent the season arguing about, and neither host is ready to call it a turning point.Huel: Limited Time Offer, Make healthy eating simple. Get Huel today with our exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with our code LFN at https://huel.com/LFN. New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel fo
Falcons Have NOWHERE Left To Hide
Thorin and Pimp open on why the Thunderpick World Championship is a must win for Falcons, why replacing karrigan may not fix anything, and why NiKo is quietly the biggest reason Falcons keep dying in playoffs.Huel: Limited Time Offer, Make healthy eating simple. Get Huel today with our exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with our code LFN at https://huel.com/LFN. New Customers Only. Thank you to Hue
Falcons Have NO Excuses Left
Thorin and Pimp put Falcons under real pressure at EPL Pro League, argue the Cologne major looks more like an anomaly every month, and explain why G2 have been stuck in seventh place for two years.Huel: Limited Time Offer – Make healthy eating simple. Get Huel today with my exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with our code LFN at huel.com/LFN. New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel for partneri
Vitality Are Actually BACK?!
Thorin and Pimp argue Vitality are genuinely back after Star Series, why stand-ins ruin every interesting conversation about a team, and how NaVi talked themselves out of the star player they desperately need.Huel: Limited Time Offer – Make healthy eating simple. Get Huel today with our exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with our code LFN at huel.com/LFN. New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel for p
Why Everyone Is SLEEPING On Legacy
Thorin and Pimp make the case that Legacy are the new best Brazilian team, break down arT's redemption after four wasted years at FURIA, and why FURIA look finished.Hims: Simple online access to personalized, affordable weight loss care, including the first GLP-1 pill with no needles and unlimited dosage changes as needed. Get a personalized plan at https://hims.com/counterpoints (weight loss by H
sh1ro Is The Most RELIABLE AWPer Ever
Thorin and Pimp make the case that sh1ro is the most reliable AWPer competitive Counter-Strike has ever produced, then ask what donk still needs to be called the greatest of all time.The Perfect Jean: F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code COUNTER15 at theperfectjean.nyc/COUNTER15PrizePicks: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/COUNTER and use code COUNTER and get $150
NAVI Are In TROUBLE And The Warning Signs Are Everywhere
Thorin and Pimp are getting genuinely worried about NAVI, from w0nderful's missing openings to b1t's collapse, plus the state of the Counter-Strike roster market.
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Why THIS Tournament Format Will Deliver What BLAST Bounty Couldn't
Thorin and Pimp on why EWC finally feels like Counter-Strike is back, whether anyone can stop a Vitality side that is resting its stars, and NAVI's surprise resurgence.
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How MOUZ and xertioN SILENCED Every Doubter
Thorin and Pimp on MOUZ finally winning BLAST Bounty after years as the nearly team, and why FaZe might not win a single tier one event in 2026.
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Spirit Are Going To Win BLAST Bounty And It’s NOT A Debate
Thorin and Pimp make the case that Spirit are almost certain to win BLAST Bounty and debate whether any team can stop them.
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Why The BIGGEST Upset Against Falcons Doesn't Matter
Thorin and Pimp break down whether Spirit and Donk are the clear team to beat this season, the new BLAST Bounty format, and whether Counter-Strike legends like Neo can actually coach.
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MOUZ Didn't Want jL. The Real Reason PR Got the Spot
Thorin and Pimp break down the post-Major roster mania: why Vitality are not favored to win a tournament and whether Magisk's move to in-game leader is his last chance in Counter-Strike.
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NAVI Will PLUMMET in Season 2 Without a Roster Move
Thorin and Pimp run trajectory analysis on CS2's biggest teams for Season 2 2026: NAVI, Falcons, Vitality, and s1mple's comeback at BC Game.
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How karrigan Won the Major With the WORST Fragging Stats Ever Recorded
If you are a karrigan hater, this is not the episode for you. Counter-Points returns after the Cologne Major with a full breakdown of what just happened and what comes next.
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The IMPLOSION of NAVI & EVERYTHING That Went Wrong
Thorin and Pimp break down NAVI's self-inflicted group stage exit, karrigan's historically bad fragging at Falcons, and whether Vitality's playoff machine holds up at IEM Cologne.
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Aurora Is A DEAD Team Walking Into The Cologne Major
Pimp opens Stage 3 with a bold pick-em call of the Major on Aurora. Not a gamble, not a hot take. A verdict. The show makes the case that Aurora is functionally a dead team, playing out the string knowing a roster change is coming, and that this Major was over for them before it began.
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Why Team Liquid Are DEAD And Nobody Can Fix Them
Thorin and Pimp grade every team out of Cologne Major Stage 1, starting with Team Liquid's complete collapse and ending with the dark horse they think can crash the playoffs.
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Team Liquid's CS2 CRISIS Is Worse Than Anyone Is Admitting
Thorin and Pimp break down every Stage 1 team at the CS2 Major, starting with why Team Liquid's crisis has become impossible to solve.
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Vitality's SHOCKING Gamble Could Cost Them the Cologne Major
Thorin and Pimp preview the potential winners of the CS Major, discussing Vitality's no-practice gamble, Spirit's dark horse case, and why Falcons with karrigan changes everything.
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VITALITY ARE THE GREATEST ESPORTS TEAM IN HISTORY?
Thorin and Pimp break down Vitality's BLAST Rivals Grand Slam and debate whether this is the greatest team in the history of esports.
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Why Vitality CLEARED Astralis As The Greatest Team Ever
Thorin and Pimp make the call: Vitality are the greatest CS team of all time. Then: FalleN's retirement announcement and what it means for FURIA. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Did karrigan Just Prove Everyone WRONG?
karrigan to Falcons: Thorin and Pimp break down the biggest IGL move in CS2 history and what it means for the Cologne Major.
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The Second BEST Team In The World NEEDS To Make A Change...
Thorin and Pimp discuss three of the most talked-about storylines in Counter-Strike 2: NAVI, Vitality, and the ongoing debate around NiKo’s “choking” narrative. We cut through fan perception to examine performance, pressure, and what actually defines greatness at the highest level of CS2. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of
The FURIA Incident Is Sketchy... Is This Cheating?
Thorin and Pimp break down whether FalleN cheated during the FURIA vs. Falcons tech pause — and why BLAST's silence makes it worse.
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NAVI Finally Win A Tournament... What Does This Mean?
Dive into a deep, no-filter breakdown of two of the biggest organizations in Counter-Strike 2 as Thorin and Pimp analyze NAVI and FaZe, alongside the major talking point of ash potentially joining FaZe. This episode of Counter-Points focuses on leadership structure, coaching impact, and how small changes at the top level can completely reshape elite teams. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company.
There Are No More Excuses For FaZe
Thorin and Pimp declare FaZe Clan's current roster beyond saving... and make the case that missing the next Major is no longer unthinkable.
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Vitality Is The Best Team To EVER Play Counter Strike
Vitality, zonic, and donk headline this deep-dive look into the most dominant era Counter-Strike has seen, as the transcript breaks down why Vitality’s current form may be their strongest ever. From unmatched utility usage and elite teamplay to the rise of star performers, we explore how far this roster can push their historic streak and whether any team — even those powered by standout talents li
It's Over For G2... How Do You Fix This Team?
How do you fix G2? Dive into a deep, no-filter breakdown of three major storylines shaping the current Counter-Strike 2 landscape as Thorin and Pimp analyze G2, FUT, and FaZe with sharp realism and long-term perspective. This episode of Counter-Points focuses on roster construction, leadership identity, and whether these teams are built for sustainable success in the modern CS2 circuit. Hosted by
Why Vitality Will Win EVERYTHING
In this episode of Counter-Points Points, Pimp and Thorin break down whether Team Vitality can truly dominate the 2026 Counter‑Strike season after another elite tier victory. They discuss why this roster’s fundamentals, discipline, and long‑term planning set them apart, the challenges FURIA faces despite strong finishes, and how teams like Spirit and MOUZ fit into an increasingly competitive field
Is This The End of MOUZ?
Dive into a sharp, no-nonsense breakdown of the most debated Counter-Strike storylines in CS2, as Thorin and Pimp tackle fading contenders, risky superteam projects, and the narratives shaping the top of the scene. This episode of Counter-Points cuts through community hype to evaluate which teams are worth believing in—and which might already be past the point of no return. Hosted by Simplecast, a
Why FURIA's Hot Streak Is Over...
FURIA, PARIVISION, Falcons, FaZe, and NAVI take center stage in this deep analysis of the BLAST Bounty event, where shaky form, surprise runs, and mounting pressure shaped the early 2026 Counter-Strike season. From FURIA’s concerns about sustainability to PARIVISION’s Cinderella run and questions about long-term consistency, to Falcons’ ongoing mental-game struggles, plus the disappointing showing
The FaZe Clock Is Counting Down...
Dive into a deep, no-filter breakdown of the latest Counter-Strike roster shakeups as top organizations rethink their direction heading into the next CS2 season. In this episode of Counter-Points, Thorin and Pimp analyze how teams like FaZe, NAVI, 100 Thieves, and FUT are navigating form slumps, star pressure, and long-term planning in an increasingly brutal VRS-driven ecosystem. Hosted by Simplec
Why FURIA Will NOT Be A Top Team in 2026... (they're overperforming!)
Dive into a deep, no-filter breakdown of the current Counter-Strike tier-one landscape as FURIA, Falcons, and Team Spirit take center stage in a wide-ranging discussion on roster philosophy, identity, and long-term ambition in the CS2 era. This episode examines why FURIA continue to struggle with consistency despite constant roster tweaks, whether their aggressive Brazilian identity still works in
Will This 100 Thieves Project Succeed? Will We See A Proper Return For s1mple?
Dive into a deep, no-filter breakdown of the latest Counter‑Strike roster madness as major orgs like 100 Thieves and BC.Game reshape their lineups heading into a new competitive season. This video covers why 100 Thieves may be choosing long‑term development over instant VRS invites, the risks and benefits of skipping a core buy, and how veterans like rain and dev1ce could guide a new generation of
Has Vitality SURPASSED Prime Astralis? | Most Dominant First Year?
Dive into this post-major Counter-Strike deep-dive with Thorin and Pimp as they break down why the new CS calendar finally feels like a real sports season, how the major as a year-ending event reshapes roster moves, and what player breaks should really look like in a modern, hyper-competitive scene. The conversation then shifts into an all‑time greats debate: is Vitality’s 2025 run better than A
Is This The Most STACKED Major Playoffs In CS History?
Get ready for one of the most stacked CS2 Major playoffs of all time. In this episode of Counter-Points, Thorin and Pimp break down why this Major format with VRS seeding has actually worked, how it created a logical narrative through all three stages, and why the playoff bracket is almost the dream scenario for competitive Counter-Strike. They talk about how teams like FlyQuest naturally hit thei
What Happened To Liquid?... Worst Major Performance?!
NOTE: This episode was recorded before the Team Liquid vs Passion UA match. In this episode of Counter-Points, Thorin and Pimp break down the viral drama sparked by npl from B8 during the CS2 Major – and use it to dig into the messy relationship between pro players, analysts, fans, and unfair criticism. They discuss good vs. bad player/media interactions, including coaches and players who lie or w
The Quality of Counter Strike Has Dropped…
In this episode, Pimp and Thorin break down why the opening stage of the Budapest CS2 Major felt like one of the worst major stages ever in terms of gameplay quality – despite the stakes, the storylines, and the new Valve ranking system (VRS) doing a decent job of seeding teams. Go to https://Kalshi.com and use promo code LFN. Make your first $100 worth of trades and you’ll automatically receive a
The Favorites & Dark Horses of The Budapest Major 2025
Get ready for the ultimate CS2 Major preview! 🎯 In this episode of Counter-Points, Thorin and Pimp break down the top contenders, dark horses, and potential disappointments heading into the upcoming Major. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
How Did FURIA Dethrone Vitality?
In this episode of Counter-Points, we dive deep into the world of competitive CS2, breaking down the recent grand finals at IEM Chengdu, and the evolving meta in pro Counter-Strike. Pimp and Thorin discuss Vitality’s 3-0 loss to FURIA, explaining why the scoreline was deceptive, how key clutch moments like FallenNs 1v2 on Ancient shifted momentum, and why Vitality’s biggest opponent right now migh
What's Really Wrong With Team Liquid? Can They Be Saved?
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The Unexpected Shift Of The TOP CS2 Teams
In this episode of Counter-Points, we break down the current state of competitive Counter-Strike after ESL Pro League, exploring why the race to the next Major feels more open than ever. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
The Unexpected Stars That Revived Brazilian CounterStrike
In this episode, we dive deep into FURIA’s surprising resurgence and the roster changes that shocked the Counter-Strike scene. Thorin and Pimp break down the additions of YEKINDAR and rookie AWPer molodoy, the transformation of FalleN from an AWPing in-game leader to a rifling support IGL, and how these moves revitalized the team despite initial skepticism. We explore molodoy’s breakout year, the
G2 Proved EVERYONE Wrong. How Did They Do It?
In this episode of Counter-Points, Thorin and Pimp break down one of the most surprising results in recent CS2 esports history — G2’s stunning victory over Vitality at the BLAST Premier Fall Final. We dive deep into how G2, led by coach sAw and IGL huNter-, built a winning formula without a traditional superstar, relying instead on a perfectly balanced roster featuring HeavyGod, matys, and malbsMD
How Do You Fix Astralis? / Is Spirit's Roster Move Counter-Intuitive?...
On a new Counter-Points, Thorin and Pimp discuss Spirit adding tn1r, the state of Astralis, whether gla1ve is done with professional CS, logical landing spots for zont1x, and more! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Is donk Better Than ZywOo? / MOUZ Have Already Peaked
Welcome to a new series of Counter-Points! Thorin and Pimp discuss the donk vs ZywOo debate, MOUZ's performance at IEM Cologne, Team Spirit's reliance on donk, kyousuke's debut for Falcons, and more! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Why Vitality Will Win IEM Cologne 2024 / The Most Exciting Playoff Bracket
Thorin and Maniac discuss results from IEM Cologne, why SAW are being overrated, the electrifying FaZe win over Team Liquid, what Vitality need to do to win the event, what another title would mean for NAVI, and more.
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Why Team Spirit are the #1 team / NAVI on the cusp of greatness
Thorin and Maniac discuss narratives around IEM Cologne and BLAST Fall Groups, why Team Spirit may be the best team in the world right now, a change that NAVI needs to consider, issues at FaZe, and more.
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ROSTERMANIA: What is happening?... / Twistzz IGLing, jks to Liquid
Thorin and Maniac discuss massive roster moves at Team Liquid and G2, past clues that Twistzz intended to IGL eventually, why NiKo made the correct decision to not IGL for G2, the rumored Cloud9 roster, the competitive mentality for ZywOo and other French players, and more.
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The State of Counter-Strike / The Future of m0NESY (ft SPUNJ)
Thorin and Maniac are joined by caster Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill to discuss the state of Counter-strike esports, roster moves at G2, why Team Spirit could be the best team in the world, the potential for superstar players to play with each other on the same team, ZywOo continuing to choke, whether NAVI made a mistake in keeping their lineup together, and more.
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cadiaN kicked and uncertain future / sh1ro overshadowed by donk
Thorin and Maniac discuss cadiaN's departure from Team Liquid, sh1ro's strong performances being overshadowed by donk, the dynamics of Team Spirit, a point on Vitality from the latest episode of Snake and Banter with Richard Lewis, and more!
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Is HooXi the problem? / ZywOo vs donk vs m0NESY: Who's on top?
Thorin and Maniac discuss recent showings from Vitality, Team Spirit, and G2, ZywOo falling in yet another big final, donk getting cooked at IEM Dallas, Stewie2k's performance as a stand-in, potential paths forward for G2, and more.
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Why ZywOo will never be better than s1mple / Astralis' revival
Thorin and Maniac discuss ESL Pro League Grand Finals between MOUZ and Vitality, the skill that s1mple has always used that ZywOo needs to pick up on, Vitality's chances at winning the Shanghai Major, hype around the current Astralis lineup, blameF joining Fnatic, pro and community takes on dev1ce , and more.
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Why being "Toxic" and "Nice" doesn't matter / HEROIC's unexpected roster move
Thorin and Maniac discuss results from ESL Pro League, a roster rumor that degster will replace nicodoz on HEROIC, narratives surrounding "toxic" and "nice players, hallzerk and Complexity's recent performances, expectations for MOUZ at this event, and more!
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What Falcons Need to Succeed / Eternal Fire Fizzle Out!
Thorin and Maniac discuss results from ESL Pro League, Astralis returning to exciting form, Team Falcons' slump & why fans need to give the roster more time, potential problems at Virtus.pro with electroNic, continued strong performances by The MongolZ, and more.
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Time for m0NESY to MOVE ON? / Maniac: G2 are Top 3 at T-side Calling
Thorin and Maniac discuss some what if scenarios for the recent PGL Major, roster rumors surrounding m0NESY and Cloud9, the current status of G2, ZywOo and Vitality's performances this year, the strength of the CIS region, and more.
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Are Team Spirit UNSTOPPABLE? / Can Aleksib lead NAVI to the Major Final?
Thorin and Maniac discuss the PGL Copenhagen Major Playoffs, why Team Spirit are the favorites + angles where FaZe can defeat them, the hype potential semifinal between Vitality and Spirit, Ax1Le showing up for Cloud9, MOUZ and Eternal Fire's statuses as dark horses, and more!
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Spirit and Vitality HEAD-TO-HEAD / Can frozen and FaZe win the PGL Major?
Thorin and Maniac present narratives surrounding the CS2 PGL Copenhagen Major, discussing tournament favorites Spirit, Vitality, and FaZe, dark horses like Heroic, MOUZ, and Eternal Fire, and superstar players like donk and ZywOo.
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Astralis, Falcons, and Team Liquid in DEEP TROUBLE / s1mple's future in CS2
Thorin and Maniac discuss Astralis, Falcons, and Team Liquid missing the PGL Copenhagen Major, the unease ofdev1ce stepping in as IGL of Astralis, how s1mple being loaned to Falcons from NAVI could have a lasting impact, and more.
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Team Spirit's BRILLIANT teamwork / SUPERSTAR PLAYERS leading through ambition
Thorin and Maniac discuss the impact that superstar players (like NiKo and s1mple) can have on roster construction and team chemistry, s1mple's potential return to NAVI, the delicate balance between personal and task chemistry, the multitude of strengths of Team Spirit, and more!
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The HooXi question / What are the expectations for Team Falcons? (ft. YNk)
Thorin and Maniac are joined by Janko "YNk" Paunović to discuss the HooXi vs kassad beef, thoughts on Heroic and Astralis, the status of the zonic and Snappi-led Falcons lineup, and more!
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Who were the TOP PLAYERS in 2023? / The road ahead for Falcons and G2
Thorin and Maniac discuss their picks for the top CS players in 2023, analyze the upcoming year for both G2 and Falcons, reflect on the past year, and more.
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Why we're EXCITED about frozen in FaZe! / What's COOKING at G2?
Thorin and Maniac discuss frozen's entrance into FaZe, ZywOo coming into form in CS2, the latest in the NiKo/G2/Falcons saga, gla1ve's ENCE roster, and more.
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Are ropz and FaZe UNBEATABLE?!? / WINNING MENTALITY in CS2
Thorin and Maniac discuss FaZe's dominance in CS2, the ways that rival teams can potentially defeat FaZe, the psychology of a winning squad, the Astralis and Heroic roster situation, and more.
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A PERFECT STORM for FaZe / Prime EliGE is back / Big moves at Team Liquid
Thorin and Maniac discuss FaZe's victory at IEM Sydney, EliGE's strong performance with Complexity at the event, thoughts on the rumored Team Liquid roster with cadiaN and Twistzz, and more!
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Are MOUZ true contenders? / What's next for Heroic and cadiaN?
Thorin and Maniac discuss MOUZ's victory at EPL and what it means for the team's future, potential issues at the upcoming CS2 event: IEM Sydney, big changes at Heroic, Vitality, and Cloud9, tales from HenryG's colossus" lineup, and more.
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Memories of CS:GO - Looking Back on the World's Greatest Esport
Thorin and Maniac reflect on the biggest stories, players, and teams of CS:GO. Topics discussed include Fnatic, the impact that Brazil has had on the competitive scene, the reasons why CS esports needs good analysts, cheating scandals, and more.
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Hopes and fears for CS2 / The whirlwind history of CS:GO's release
Thorin and Maniac prepare for the arrival of CS2 by reflecting on the history of CS:GO, discussing VALORANT's impact on the NA talent pipeline, sharing hopes and fears about what the game could be, and more.
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Maniac vs ZywOo HATERS / Unfair pressure on m0NESY? / Heroic's locus of control
Thorin and Maniac reflect on the Gamers8 CS:GO event and discuss their thoughts on ZywOo + Vitality, ENCE, G2, Virtus.pro, and Heroic.
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The HooXi angle / Can electroNic cook for Cloud9 at Gamers8?
Thorin and Maniac reflect on IEM Cologne and prepare for Gamers8 by discussing the statuses of the top teams, such as G2, ENCE, Vitality, and Cloud9.
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