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What It Was Like

What It Was Like

Superreal 78 Episodes Jul 4, 2026

Conversations with people who have lived through extreme events. Some stories are dark and twisted, others are light and funny. In all cases, we get an intimate portrait of 'what it was like' to be there. Hosted by Julian Morgans, this is a Superreal production.

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How I Lost Everything to Leonardo DiCaprio Jul 4, 2026 55:58 In 1995, Dale Wheatley had just written and produced Don's Plum starring his friends Leonardo DiCaprio and Tobey Maguire. The film was quickly snapped up for a 3-picture deal. But then Leo decided he didn't want it released. Overnight, he and Tobey buried the film and dismantled Dale's friendships. As he explains, it’s a moment he’s never recovered from.You can watch Don's Plum on Dale’s YouTube h
I Escaped an Abusive Polygamist Cult… and Became a Millionaire Jun 27, 2026 59:52 Pamela Jones was born into a fringe splinter group of Mormonism. By her early 30s she had nine children, while her husband had five other wives. But one day something inside her broke. In this ep, Pamela describes how she escaped — penniless and illiterate — and built a multimillion-dollar business and a whole new life.Hire Pamela to speak at your next event hereRead her incredible memoir, The Dir
A Fatal Search for a Lost City of Gold in the Amazon Jun 21, 2026 1:04:38 In 1981, an Israeli backpacker named Yossi Ghinsberg met a man in Bolivia who told him about a lost city of riches buried in the jungle. Four of them went into the Amazon to search for the city. Two came out. Yossi tells us how he survived and what he learned about the darkness within.Hire Yossi to speak at your next event hereRead his incredible memoir, Jungle, hereFind us on TikTok: @whatitwasli
My Terrifying (and Oddly Funny) 25 Hours Kidnapped in New York Jun 13, 2026 58:13 On the eve of his 38th birthday in 1998, a lawyer named Stanley Alpert was plucked off the street by three armed men. For the next 25 hours he sat blindfolded in a corner of their Brooklyn apartment, listening to their strange lives play out around him, and carefully absorbing their stories so he could have them jailed, should he ever escape.For more, check out Stan’s book The Birthday Party: A Me
I Discovered Snowtown's Bodies in Barrels (Classic) Jun 7, 2026 48:05 In May 1999, police found eight bodies decaying in barrels in a disused bank vault in Snowtown. Four men were eventually jailed for 12 murders. Former senior constable Gordon Drage was the first to discover the vault and tells us what he saw.. We're re-running this 2023 interview because the youngest of the four, James Vlassakis, has just been approved for parole. It’s a decision that’s being foug
I Was an Undercover Cop With a Death Wish May 29, 2026 49:40 Todd Maguire was happy-go-lucky Australian policeman until his girlfriend died by suicide and everything changed. From there, Todd became a heavy drinking undercover cop chasing life-and-death situations to bury his trauma. This is Todd’s story of going to hell but somehow finding his way back.Check out Todd’s memoir: Donny: An undercover cop with a deathwish.Find us on TikTok: @whatitwaslikepodca
How Do You Survive a Cyber-Stalking Cult? May 23, 2026 54:15 In 2018, sci-fi writer Patrick Tomlinson posted a Tweet that attracted the attention of a group of far-right internet trolls. As their harassment escalated, Patrick called the police, who did nothing. Now, nearly eight years later, Patrick’s life has been upended via a campaign of doxing, swatting and relentless terrorising. On this ep, he explains how this nightmare can happen to anyone.Find us o
How I Became a Cult Recruiter May 15, 2026 1:00:18 In 2019, Matthew Thomas thought he was joining a Bible study group. Instead, he was sucked into Shincheonji Church of Jesus, a secretive Korean cult known for coercive control and bankrupting its members. Over the next four years, Matt lost himself and eventually became a recruiter tasked with drawing others in.Find us on TikTok: @whatitwaslikepodcastFind us on Youtube: @whatitwaslikepodcastFollow
I Committed a School Shooting May 10, 2026 1:02:59 In 2004, Jon Romano brought a shotgun to school intending to take his own life. One person was injured before he was tackled to the ground. Today, Jon reflects on the path that led him there—and what he wishes he’d told the people around him sooner.Find us on TikTok: @whatitwaslikepodcastFind us on Youtube: @whatitwaslikepodcastFollow us on Instagram: whatitwaslikepodcastThis is a Superreal produc
I Got Caught Fabricating Stories for the New York Times May 2, 2026 40:48 In 2003, Jayson Blair was a rising star in journalism, until he got caught plagiarising stories and inventing details. What followed was one of the most high-profile downfalls in modern media. In this ep, Jayson reflects on why he lied, how he got away with it for so long, and how it felt when everything collapsed.Find us on TikTok: @whatitwaslikepodcastFind us on Youtube: @whatitwaslikepodcastFol
I Woke From a Coma to a Man Claiming to Be My Boyfriend Apr 25, 2026 52:01 After Brooke Knisley fell from a tree, she couldn’t walk, talk, or remember anything—or anyone. So when a man appeared claiming to be her boyfriend, she believed him. What followed was months of manipulation, as she slowly uncovered who he really was.This is a recent episode from our other show, The Sex That Changed My Life. Find it wherever you get your podcasts.You can follow Brooke on Instagram
Pink Jumpsuits, a Limo, and the Wildest Race in America Apr 18, 2026 27:00 The Cannonball Run is an illegal car race from New York to Los Angeles. In 1972, Judy Stropus entered with an all-women team sponsored by a bra company. They didn’t finish, but somehow became the most legendary team in Cannonball history. In this ep, Judy recounts the race and explains why she considers it the dumbest thing she ever did.Find us on TikTok: @whatitwaslikepodcastFind us on Youtube: @

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