Between the Walls
Join married couple Jonathan and Jessica Wallace as they share their insights, experiences, and struggles, offering a raw and authentic look at life within the walls of marriage. The podcast features real conversations about relationships and faith, drawing from their personal journey.
Episodes
Our failed IVF transfer..
We're back — and we have a lot to say. Year four of marriage brought us some of the best moments we've shared together, and honestly, the hardest. In this episode, we're finally opening up about something we've kept close: after three years of trying to conceive, we traveled to Greece to do IVF — and it didn't work.
We're not sharing this from the other side of healing. We're sharing it from the m
When the Friend Zone Gets Complicated
A listener wrote in with one of the most relatable situations we've heard — she caught feelings for her guy friend, told him, and he said he wasn't ready... but maybe in the future. Now she's stuck between protecting her heart and not wanting to lose one of the most important people in her life.
This week, we're getting into all of it — the power shift that happens the moment feelings are out in t
The Church Hurt Me...Never Going Back
We're talking about church hurt — and we're not gonna pretend it isn't real. From abuse covered up by boards to leaders who weaponize Jesus, we see you. But we're also asking the harder question: is walking away from church altogether actually protecting you, or is it costing you something? We get into what the body of Christ was always meant to be, how to vet a church before you commit, and why t
Love Wins
A listener sent in one of the hardest questions we've gotten: her two close friends — both Christians — just started dating each other, and they're both women. She loves them deeply, disagrees with their relationship theologically, and has no idea what to do. We sat with this one for a minute because honestly? It's not simple.
In this episode we talk about what it actually looks like to love someo
That Wasn’t God… That Was You
We're back — and we're getting into something that's behind so much confusion in dating, relationships, and honestly life in general: being ruled by your feelings instead of your convictions.
From situationship decisions made at 2AM, to driving 90 minutes just to drop off a note (yes, that happened), to a very recent disagreement about a cat and an open door — Jonathan and Jess get personal about
LET THAT MAN GO!
He bought a house. You thought a ring was next. That was two years ago. This week we're in the listener questions and we're not being gentle about it — if he can't make a decision at 33, that tells you everything. We're also tackling whether you can build a life with someone who's a good person but not a believer. Spoiler: it's mango season.
We Haven't Made Money in 4 Months...
We're not gonna sugarcoat it — we've been in a drought. Four months. Zero brand deals. Zero new income. And a whole lot of conversations between us about whether we're doing enough, saving enough, trusting enough. This week, we're getting raw about what it actually looks like to trust God when provision feels absent — not as a sermon, but as a confession. We're talking financial pressure, the prid
This is Why You're Still Single
Everyone's got a theory on why they're single — bad luck, no good options, wrong city. But what if the answer is a little closer to home? In this episode, Jess and Jonathan get into the real reasons people stay stuck in singleness — and none of them are what you think. From wanting it so bad you're pushing people away, to being too picky for the wrong reasons, to just not doing the inner work — th
Should You Change for Love? | Is Marriage Worth Losing Yourself?
A listener wrote in with a dilemma a lot of couples quietly face — her boyfriend told her she'd need to give up drinking if they were going to get married. She doesn't think drinking is wrong. He's a church leader whose congregation doesn't condone it. And she loves him more than she loves alcohol. So what's the problem?
The problem is the reason behind the ask.
Jonathan and Jess unpack the differ
The Honeymoon Phase was OVER | The Story of Julie & Miguel
What happens when love isn't enough to hold a marriage together? In this episode, we sit down with our close friends Julie and Miguel Cepeda — married eight years, parents, and two of the most honest people we know — as they take us through the full arc of their relationship. From a Tinder match in 2016 and a year of no contact, to a long distance relationship built on a lie, to a marriage that ne
The Content Conversation Nobody Wants to Have
We went to the Kendrick Lamar concert. And honestly? We probably shouldn't have been there.
In this episode, Jonathan and Jess get into one of those conversations that's equal parts conviction and self-check — what content are we actually letting in, and what is it doing to us? From the Sinners debate to secular music to binge-watching to those romance novels with dragons in them, we're talking th
Do I Need to Submit to My Husband?
We're revisiting one of our very first conversations — submission — but this time with almost four years of marriage under our belts. Back when we first talked about this, we were barely a year and a half in. A lot has changed. A lot has also stayed the same.
In this episode, we get into what submission actually looks like in a real marriage, where it comes from in Scripture (hint: Ephesians 5 sta
The #1 Thing that Ends Marriages | Featuring.. My Parents
What actually causes marriages to fall apart?
Is it money? Communication? Intimacy? Or something deeper that most people miss?
In this episode, we sit down with Jonathan’s parents—married 33 years and experienced marriage counselors—to talk about what they’ve seen in both thriving and struggling relationships. From real-life stories to hard-earned wisdom, this conversation gets honest about wh
I Messed Up...God Gave Me Another Chance.
In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Jess and Jonathan talk about a topic that doesn’t get discussed enough — backsliding.
What does it really look like to drift from God? Is it a sudden fall, or a slow fade? And how do you find your way back?
They share personal experiences and unpack:
The difference between struggling with sin and becoming comfortable in it
What it looks like to l
We’re Back — and We Needed God More Than We Thought
Season 3 starts now.
After a long break (and a full kitchen reno), Jess & Jonathan are back—catching you up on what’s changed, what God’s been teaching them, and why they’re moving differently this year.
In this episode, they talk about:
What it’s like rebuilding rhythm after a long pause
The hard truth about fasting (and how it exposes what we really rely on)
Why “perfect” social media
This is the End...
We’re back with a life update and answering some of the questions you all sent in! From navigating our fertility journey to talking about choosing your partner over Instagram, online dating, and everything in between—this episode is honest, unfiltered, and full of laughs. Whether you’re here for the wisdom or the wild takes, there’s something in this one for you.
Real Talk: Love and Choices (You Asked For It!) + a Black Movie Draft
In this episode, we tackle some thought-provoking questions sent in by our listeners! From navigating past attractions and identity, to balancing relationships and social media, we cover it all. Plus, don’t miss our Black Movie Draft at the beginning, where we pick our favorite films! Join us for a fun and real conversation about relationships, love, and everything in between.
Let's Talk About Dating! | Do Looks Matter? Red Flags, Non Negotiables...
Dating can be confusing, but setting standards doesn’t have to be! In this episode, we dive into the big questions—Do looks really matter? What are the biggest red flags? How do you define your non-negotiables? Whether you’re single, dating, or just figuring it all out, we’re having an honest, faith-filled conversation on what truly matters in relationships.
The Truth About Singleness (And Why It's A Gift)
Before you jump into dating, let’s talk about what it really means to be ready for a relationship. In this episode, we break down the importance of intentional singleness, knowing your worth, and preparing yourself emotionally and spiritually before stepping into dating. We also tackle the pressure from society (and the church) to rush into marriage, the pitfalls of dating without purpose, and why
How to Hear God's Voice
How do you know if it’s really God speaking to you? In this episode, we dive into what it means to recognize God’s voice in everyday life. From building a deeper relationship with Him to understanding the difference between His guidance and our own thoughts, we’re breaking down practical ways to tune in and listen. If you’ve ever wondered, Am I really hearing from God?—this episode is for you.
No Means No...But You Have to Say It First
Why is saying “no” so hard? In this episode, we dive deep into the struggles of setting boundaries, overcoming people-pleasing, and learning to protect your time and energy. Whether it’s relationships, work, or commitments that drain you, we’re unpacking how to confidently say “no” without guilt. Because at the end of the day, prioritizing your peace isn’t selfish—it’s necessary. Tune in as we dis
The Ultimatum: When It's Time To Walk Away..
Explore the transformative power of ultimatums in relationships. From tough decisions to life-changing commitments, join us as we navigate the complexities of love, timing, and the pursuit of happiness.
Porn, Shame, and God's Grace | From Struggling to Healing
In this candid episode of Between the Walls, Jonathan and Jessica dive deep into the struggles of overcoming pornography, shame, and the importance of self-control. They share their personal journeys of battling temptation, the impact on their relationship, and the healing process through faith. This conversation is about confronting hidden struggles, finding redemption, and learning to walk in Go
Why is Giving So Hard?! The Struggle to Live Selflessly
In this candid episode, we unpack the age-old question: Why is giving so hard? Whether it’s money, time, or emotional support, we explore the internal battles that make selfless giving a challenge. From societal pressures to personal insecurities, we delve into the complexities that hinder our ability to give freely. Join us as we share personal stories, practical insights, and biblical wisdom on
Episode 16 | Fighting Fair: How to Argue Without Breaking Heart (+ Our Most Awkward Public Fight)
Arguments are inevitable in any relationship, but how you handle them can make all the difference. In this episode, we open up about a particularly awkward fight we had in front of other people and what it taught us about arguing well. We’ll share practical tips for handling conflict with love, navigating hard conversations without causing unnecessary hurt, and learning to fight fair. Whether you’
Episode 15 | Can Christians Drink? Convictions and Stewarding Influence
In this episode, we dive into what it means to live well from a position of influence. We explore the balance between personal convictions, cultural perceptions, and Biblical principles. Plus, we discuss the unique challenges of being a Christian influencer, navigating judgment, and stewarding your platform in a way that honors God. Whether you’ve struggled with this question or are curious about
Episode 14 | Red Flags or Rough Patches? Knowing When to Stay or Walk Away
In this episode, we tackle one of the toughest relationship questions: How do you know if a challenge is something you can work through or a sign it’s time to walk away? We break down common red flags to watch for, share tips for recognizing healthy conflict versus toxic patterns, and discuss how to discern whether your relationship is helping you grow or holding you back. Whether you’re dating, e
Episode 13 | Waiting Well: Fertility and Trusting God's Timing
In this episode, we share an update on our fertility journey—the highs, the lows, and everything in between. We open up about the lessons we’ve learned during this season of waiting and how we’re leaning into God’s promises even when the answers aren’t clear. Join us as we discuss what it means to wait on God well, find hope in the midst of uncertainty, and trust His perfect timing for our lives.
Episode 12 | Friendship is Hard...Navigating Friendships as Adults
In this episode of “Between the Walls, Jonathan and Jessica Wallace dive into the challenges and joys of building and maintaining friendships in adulthood. They explore the complexities of forming new connections, sustaining old ones, and the evolving nature of friendships as life changes.
Drawing from personal experiences, they discuss setting healthy boundaries, balancing priorities, and reco
Episode 10 | From Handcuffs to the Hands of Marriage (with Matthew and Dana Harvey)
In this episode of “Between the Walls,”Jonathan and Jessica welcome special guests Matthew and Dana Harvey to share their remarkable journey of redemption, resilience, and love. Matthew and Dana open up about overcoming personal struggles, the role of faith in their transformation, and how they found healing and purpose in their marriage.
This inspiring conversation covers the challenges they f
Episode 11 | Comparison Steals Your Joy...And Other Things We Learned While On Break
In this episode of “Between the Walls,” Jonathan and Jessica tackle the subtle traps that can hinder a healthy, joyful relationship. They explore how placing your spouse on a pedestal, seeking validation from others, and comparing yourself to others can erode self-worth and contentment.
With honesty and vulnerability, Jonathan and Jessica share personal insights and faith-based guidance on maint
Episode 9 | Dealing with Anxiety!
In this episode of "Between the Walls," Jonathan and Jessica take a unique look at "Inside Out 2" and how its themes relate to their personal experiences with anxiety. Reflecting on the animated journey through the mind's emotions, they draw parallels to their own struggles and triumphs in managing anxiety within their marriage.
Jonathan and Jessica discuss how the characters in "Inside Out 2" can
Episode 8| After the Honeymoon: Sex and Marriage
In this candid episode of "Between the Walls," Jonathan and Jessica Wallace delve into the evolving dynamics of sexual intimacy in marriage beyond the honeymoon phase. They share personal experiences, practical advice, and faith-based insights on maintaining a healthy and fulfilling sex life as the years go by.
Jonathan and Jessica address common challenges couples face, including
Episode 7 | Sex! You Know We Had To Talk About It.
In this episode of "Between the Walls," Jonathan and Jessica explore the profound impact of establishing a strong emotional and spiritual bond before becoming physically intimate. They delve into the importance of fostering trust, understanding, and mutual respect as foundational elements for a lasting relationship.
Drawing from personal experiences and biblical principles, Jonathan and Jessica di
Episode 6 | Can Men and Women be "Best Friends"?
In this episode of "Between the Walls, Jonathan and Jessica dive into the complexities of opposite-gender friendships in the context of marriage. They explore the potential challenges and benefits of these relationships, offering personal insights and biblical guidance on how to navigate them with integrity.
Jonathan and Jessica discuss the concept of "work wives" and "work husbands," emphasizing
Episode 5 | Are They "THE ONE"?! | How God Told Us & 2 Years Married RECAP
In this insightful episode of "Between the Walls, Jonathan and Jessica share their journey of discovering that they were "meant to be together". They recount the signs and divine guidance that led them to each other, offering listeners a glimpse into how they discerned God’s plan for their relationship.
As they celebrate their second wedding anniversary, Jonathan and Jessica also reflect on the le
Episode 4 | Try Jesus.. Don't Try ME | Conflict Resolution, Setting Boundaries, People Pleasing
In this episode of "Between the Walls," Jonathan and Jessica Wallace tackle the challenging yet essential topics of conflict resolution, setting boundaries, and overcoming people-pleasing tendencies. Drawing on their personal experiences and faith, they provide practical advice and biblical insights on how to handle conflicts with grace, establish healthy boundaries, and prioritize
Episode 3 | How to Love When You Don't Feel Like It..
In this episode of Between the Walls," Jonathan and Jessica Wallace dive into the complexities of loving your partner even when it's challenging. They explore how understanding and applying the concept of love languages can transform your relationship.
Join Jonathan and Jessica as they discuss practical strategies for expressing love in ways that resonate with your partner, even during difficult t
Episode 2 | So You Wanna Get Married? Things You Should Know...
In this episode of "Between the Walls," Jonathan and Jessica give their advice with what they think you should know before marriage. Join them as they share candidly about the highs and lows, offering practical advice and insights for couples preparing for marriage or in the early stages of their own journey.
Episode 1 | This is Harder Than We Thought...Our Fertility Journey
In this first episode of "Between the Walls," married couple Jonathan and Jessica Wallace open up about their journey through fertility issues as Jesus followers.
Join them as they share their deeply personal experiences, discussing the emotional challenges, faith struggles, and the strength they've found in their relationship and spirituality. This episode offers a raw and heartfelt perspective
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