Mature Me w/ Rich Wilkerson Jr.
A podcast about life, faith, and leadership with Rich Wilkerson Jr., lead pastor of VOUS Church in Miami, FL.
Episodes
Get Your Balance Back – Rich Wilkerson Jr. @ VOUS Friends + Family Lunch
You don’t notice balance until you lose it.Right before night one of VOUSCon, I shared a message titled “Get Your Balance Back”In a world of extremes, spiritual maturity is learning how to hold the tension. Grace and truth. Conviction and compassion. Awareness without obsession.Because if you can’t balance, you can’t stand. If you can’t stand, you can’t walk. And if you can’t walk, you certainly c
God Knew You’d Fail and Still Chose You | VOUS Staff Meeting | Rich Wilkerson Jr.
There’s a difference between leading from your calling and leading from your cracks.This week I’m sharing a message from a staff meeting titled “Insecurity Is Not Your Identity” We look at Peter’s story, from boldly declaring who Jesus is, to denying Him, to being restored and reminded that his failure never canceled his calling.God already knew Peter would deny Him, and He still chose him. The sa
If Nothing Is Growing, Start Here | Luke Lezon on Mature Me Ep. 105
When something isn’t growing, don’t be so quick to blame the seed.
On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my new friend @lukelezon . I found a clip of him preaching the gospel using The Lion King and knew I had to get him on Mature Me 🔥Luke is a husband, father, and pastor of @quaychurch. We dive into all things leadership, culture, communication, trust, and forgiveness. Whether you’re buil
Don’t Skip The Process | Manny Arango | Mature Me Ep 104
Everyone wants the platform. Few embrace the preparation.On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my friend @mannyarangoManny is a husband, father, pastor of @thegardenchurchhtx, and one of the most joyful leaders I know. I've wanted to have this conversation for a long time, and it was worth the wait.We talk about his salvation story, preaching for the first time at just eleven years old
Leadership Will Cost You | Earl, Jabin & John | Mature Me | EP 103
What you can withstand? THAT’S what leadership is On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my dear friends @earlmcclellan, @jabinchavez, and @johntermini for a conversation about vision, leadership and the cost of following God’s call.
Sometimes vision is not a full picture. It is simply enough light for the next step. We talk about how vision gives pain purpose, why your burden may be connec
The Story Behind “What A God” | Chelsea Plank on Mature Me Ep 102
We don’t get filled just to stay full. We get filled so we can be poured out.Sat down with one of my friends @chelseaplankk for this week’s episode of Mature MeChelsea is a wife, artist, singer, songwriter, and Worship Director at SEU. Her music has blessed so many people, including one of our favorite worship songs, “What A God”On this episode of Mature Me, we talk about following the peace of Go
Why You Can’t Sleep — Tim Ross Mature Me Ep 101
Peace is YOURS. Jesus left it for YOU.On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my dear friend @upsetthegram . Husband, father, pastor, communicator, podcaster — someone who has spent years helping people find language for faith, healing, and freedom.This conversation goes a lot of places, but at the center of it is a deep invitation into peace. We talk about change, calling, controversy, ther
Turned a Living Room Into a Movement | Graham Furtick on Mature Me Ep 100
Imagine a bunch of Pastor’s Kids in a room recording a podcast… that’s exactly what we did for the Mature Me 100th episode I sat down with @grahamfurtick @charliehughez @dakotaduron on a special episode diving into all things being a pastor’s kid, Gen Z, and ministry. We talk about the story behind @thelivingroom.clt - a young adult Bible that became a movementWe get into next gen leadership, grow
Unlock Your Prayer Language — Mature Me Ep 99 w/ Alex Seeley
What would change if we recognized that the Holy Spirit isn't optional... he’s essential! On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with a dear friend @alexseeley. She shares the journey from a young woman praying for purpose to helping build The Belonging Co, while unpacking the message behind her new book, The Divine Counselor.We dive into the topics like why prayer language is an evidence,
What Happened to Random Acts of Kindness? — Jedidah Thurner on Ep 95 of Mature Me
Are we good neighbors?It’s a simple question, but it reaches deeper the longer you sit with it.On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with @jedidiahthurner. Through Love Has No Limits and Good Neighbor Day America, Jedidiah is helping mobilize people across the country to believe that kindness can change a day, a life, and a community.We talk about kindness, discipleship, generosity, forgiveness
How Do You Care For Your Brain? Talking to Dr. Amen on Mature Me Ep 94
Maturity is learning how to steward your mind, your body, your habits and your soul.On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with Dr. Amen, a leading voice in brain health who has spent his life helping people understand the connection between the brain, the mind, the body, and the spirit.We talk about why mental health is not just a mental issue, but a brain health issue. Dr. Amen breaks down why
How Healthy Leaders Build Healthy Culture — The Assembly Panel 2026
I love conversations that sharpen how we lead.
This week we’re releasing a panel from The Assembly 2026. I sat down with friends and leaders I deeply respect, Manouchka Charles, Mark Pettus, Bobby Chandler, and Sheldon Andrus, and we talk on culture, leadership, and building what lasts.
Culture doesn’t happen by default, it happens by design. We talk about raising leaders, solving problems, and wh
Special Release: Now & Later — The Assembly ’26
This week I’m excited to share a message straight from The Assembly ’26 The Assembly is a space where we get pastors and leaders together in one room to equip the saints. The year I shared a message titled “Now & Later.”Jesus says, “You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand.” He lived with the cross in His sight, showing us that real love finishes what it starts.So
The Jesus Method | David Nasser talks Hospitality on Mature Me Ep 93
This week on Mature Me, I sit down with @davidnasser — an author, pastor, and friend whose story and conversation holds both weight and wonder.David grew up in Iran during political unrest, watching his father be taken at gunpoint and learning at a young age what fear, loss, and displacement feel like. Over his life the battle has shifted — from physical survival to emotional survival. Bullying, i
The Moment I Stopped Being Afraid to Fail — Ryan Leak on Mature Me Ep 92
I love conversations that challenge the way we think about leadership and who we’re becoming.On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my friend @ryanleak, a husband and father of two, New York Times best selling author and speaker.We talk about the moments that shape you- from his surprise wedding that gained national attention to his connection to Kobe and practicing with the NBA. We talk wh
He’s Raised $1,000,000,000 | Scott Harrison on Ep 91 of Mature Me
This week I sat down with one of the coolest people I’ve ever met. @scottharrsion is the founder and CEO of @charitywater, a nonprofit organization that hasfunded over $1 Billion for clean and safe drinking water projects for over 20 million peoplearound the worldFrom being a top nightclub promoter to becoming the recipient of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Humanitarian Award in 2024 Scott is one of
Pressure is a Privilege — Mark Pettus on Mature Me Ep 90
On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with a longtime friend in the faith @markpettusMark preached his first sermon just one month after getting saved and now serves as lead pastor of one of the biggest churches in America @churchofthehighlands. His life has been marked by faith, obedience, and a quiet commitment to stay planted when many people would move on.We talk about 15 years of friendshi
Worship Isn’t Supposed to be Trendy — Anna Golden on Ep 89 of Mature Me
On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my friend @annagoldenmusic, worship leader, artist, wife, and someone who has chosen obedience again and again.At a young age she stepped into the entertainment industry working with Disney alongside her family. As she stepped in to be a light she learned that influence means nothing if you don’t first know how to be still in the presence of God. We ta
Anxiety Attacks, Grief & Growing | The Truth About Transitions | Levi Lusko on Mature Me Ep 88
I love conversations with friends who have walked through fire.On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my good friend Levi LuskoFrom serving as a youth pastor and planting a church at 22 to losing his daughter and Dad - Levi’s life has been marked by bold faith and big transitions.We also talk about what happened at 38. The midlife crisis. The anxiety attacks. An 18 month season that felt me
Islam vs Christianity | It’s not education it’s revelation | Shah Ahmadi on Mature Me
This episode is unique and timely. Shah Ahmadi was born and raised in Iran in a devout Muslim family, under a system where Islam functions as state law, not just personal faith.He grew up memorizing the Quran for hours at a time. Believing his good deeds had to outweigh his bad. Never hearing the word grace.As he began questioning and searching for truth, anxiety followed him. Fear of punishment.
We will never use the D-Word | Mature Me Ep 86
Love, marriage, sex, dating… you all had QUESTIONS😅 I brought my favorite person, my best friend, my wife of almost 20 years @dawnchere on for a special Valentines episode of Mature Me ❤️We answered your questions honestly, laughed a lot, and I even pulled out the list I wrote on our 15th anniversary: 15 Things to Do to Keep Your Marriage on Fire🔥This one’s for the married, the dating, the hopeful
A Message to Worship Leaders, Latinos, and Men | Nate Diaz opens up on Mature Me Ep 85
This week on Mature Me, I sit down with one of the funniest and anointed people I know - @natediaz We talk about nearness, faith as intimacy and not performance, and staying rooted. We get into worship, songwriting, and why theology matters when you’re leading people. We also talk about touring, pruning seasons, and what it looks like to stay close to the cross through it all.This is a conversatio
Emo’s Not Dead and Neither is Comedy | Matt Cutshall & Jason Kennedy | Ep 84 Mature Me
Imagine having your best friend and one of his best friend’s on your podcast… that’s exactly what I did with @thejasonkennedy @mattcutshallFrom E! News & Vine to being married in your 40s- both Jason and Matt have never stopped evolving. We talk about friendships, the early days of content creation, burnout, pressure, and pivoting as media keeps changing. We also talk strategy, longevity, and
Philip Anthony Mitchell & Tim Timberlake are back on Mature Me w/ Rich Wilkerson Jr. | Ep 83
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What Do You Do When You’re Misunderstood? | Andy Mineo Gets Honest on Mature Me Ep. 82 with Rich Wilkerson Jr.
Talk about a rollercoaster of a podcast 😂 This week I sat down with my friend @AndyMineoWe laugh, we cry, we get real, and if you stay tuned in long enough you’ll witness something that has never happened before on this podcast. @snl you have to hire this guy An artist shaped by conviction, honesty, and intention. From his early days in NYC to navigating hip hop, faith, creativity, and the weight
Ashton Hall | Failed NFL Dreams to 40 Million Followers | Ep 81 w/ Rich Wilkerson Jr.
Starting the year strong with my friend Ashton Hall on Mature Me 💪Ashton’s story is marked by consistency. Putting God first, staying patient, and choosing alignment over momentum. From football, to failure, to rebuilding with intention, he’s learned that clarity comes through obedience, not rushing, and that rejection is often God’s redirection.We talk about habits, discipline, waiting well, and
5 Things That Will Make This Year No Different Than Last Year
This week on Mature Me, Rich shares a short and timely message to start the year with clarity.Titled 5 Things That Will Make This Year No Different Than Last Year, this episode is a reminder that real change isn’t built on feelings, but on daily decisions.If you’re believing for a different year, this message will help you move with intention.Tune into the full episode now.
God Changed Everything — Rich Wilkerson Jr. at Motion Conference 2025
This week on Mature Me I’m releasing my favorite Sermon of 2025. This message is straight from Motion Conference where I’ve been preaching for over a decade. Every time I step into that space, God gives me something new. I’m grateful for @chrishodges and the way he’s made room for a new generation.Rooted in Ephesians 2, this message centers on two words that change everything: But God.We are saved
Do You Really Want God’s Will? | Rich Wilkerson Jr. at VOUS Staff Meeting
Your spirit may be willing… but your flesh will still get tired. How are you going to respond? This week we are dropping a staff meeting talk - unpacking a message that’s been stirring my heart.From the garden of Gethsemane to our everyday decisions, God isn’t looking for perfection—He’s looking for willingness. As we wrap up 2025 I think it’s important that we go into the new year with a willing
Busy Spirits Miss Holy Ground | Rich Wilkerson Jr. at VOUS Staff Meeting
Last week I sat down with the VOUS team as we wrap up 2025 and God put this topic on my heart - Legacy Leaders A Legacy Leader is a leader whose life, faith, character, and decisions produce fruit beyond their own lifetimeTired eyes miss burning bushes. Busy spirits miss Holy ground. Miracles can be messy. Legacy leaders don’t focus on the mud while miracles are happeningStaff Meetings are some of
Ep. 80 — Grace Is a License to Drive, Not to Crash | Mature Me w/ Adam Mesa & Rich Wilkerson Jr.
My friend @amesa is on the pod this week 🎧Husband, father, and pastor of Patria Church, Adam carries a story shaped by transition and trust. We talk about the moments that stretch you, the wrestle with God, and how clarity begins to rise when you keep bringing your questions back to Him.We dig into his upbringing, the early days of Patria, how he and his wife met, and the grace that’s guided their
Ep. 79 — "Preaching is easy. Living is hard.” | Mature Me Ep. 79 w/ Peter Toggs & Rich Wilkerson Jr.
My friend from across the pond @petertoggs is back on the pod for round 2️⃣ Husband to Laura, pastor of Parable Church, and a man who has been faithfully building for decades.From leading Young & Free in his early ministry years to planting Parable Church, Peter shares how every position of leadership brings a new threshold of pain, and why staying planted, embracing the process, and trusting
Ep. 78 — Lecrae & Rich Wilkerson Jr. talk Culture | Mature Me
My friend @lecrae told me he would be in town so you know we had to get him on the pod 🎧Husband, father, Grammy and Dove award winner, New York Times best seller…the list goes on. Who remembers Lecrae preaching at VOUS back in 2019 🤯In this week’s pod we talk about his story, chasing validation, suppression, success feeding insecurity, and how easily we can make God too small.We also talk about th
Ep. 77 — What Happens After We Die? Talking about End Times Not Needing to be Scary | Dr. Allen Tennison & Rich Wilkerson Jr. on Mature Me
Let’s talk end times. There are few people you can sit down and talk about eschatology with, and Dr. Allen Tennison is one of them.Professor, teacher, doctor, and counselor of theology, Dr. Tennison has discipled our community through so many teachings in VOUS spaces. I wanted to sit down with him to talk about the gray areas we all get scared to bring up: the end times, what the Bible calls escha
Ep. 76 — A Conversation About Manhood | Dr. Joel Tudman & Rich Wilkerson Jr. | Mature Me
Round ✌️on Mature Me and today is the day my friend @joeltudman releases his brand new book “Fight to Find Yourself."He’s on the pod tonight talking the art of preaching, the weight of manhood and fatherhood, and learning to embrace who you are without performing for it. This pod was a rollercoaster 😂 We laughed. We got deep. We even played Pick It Up & PreachJoel shared what it means to trust
Ep. 75 — How do you normalize suffering? | Touré Roberts & Rich Wilkerson Jr. on Mature Me
This week I sat down with someone I’ve admired for a long time - my friend Touré Roberts. Pastor of The Potter’s House & founder of One Church , Touré and his wife Sarah Jakes Roberts have been influential and impactful voices in this generation. Along with being a leader of faith he is a brilliant author and entrepreneur. We talk suffering, seasons of life, and what’s worth your fight. “You d
Ep. 74 — Is Social Media The New Cigarette? | Mike Signorelli and Rich Wilkerson Jr. on Mature Me
What if social media is the new cigarette? What if the greatest thing you got from your Pastor was a no?This week on Mature Me, I sat down with @MikeSignorelli_ on his way to Breakers Conference happening this Saturday. Husband, father, Founder and lead pastor of V1 Church, Mike has made dynamic impacts in every space he steps into. It was about time we moved our conversations over DMs on Instag
Ep 73 — A Calling from God Will Cost You Everything: A Conversation with Bobby Chandler & Rich Wilkerson Jr. | Mature Me
A calling from God will cost you everything but it’s worth everything.This week I sit down with Bobby Chandler—husband, father, and founder of Authentic Church, now a full-time evangelist—to talk about calling, surrender, and the seasons that shape you.From waiting tables to planting a church, Bobby shares how God gives direction without details and how every waiting season is an invitation to ser
Ep 72 — “The Church Got Grace WRONG.” — Keenan Clark on Mature Me w/ Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week I’m joined by one of my favorite evangelists, @keenanclark_, alongside @dakotaduron—two voices calling a generation back to truth.Keenan’s a husband, father, and author who preaches with fire and conviction. His words carry weight, reminding us that preaching isn’t about performance; it’s about obedience. That fasting is training for the fight. That boldness is born in prayer and knowing
Ep 71 — Finding Purpose in Singleness: A Conversation with Manouchka Charles & Rich Wilkerson Jr | Mature Me
“Singleness is a piece of cake, it’s layered.” 🍰This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Manouchka Charles—preacher, location director, and a leader in many capacities at VOUS Church.Together they unpack what it means to be single & secure—content in the present while secure enough to believe for what’s ahead. Manouchka shares about the layers of singleness, the pressures and temptations of
Ep 70 — Earl McClellan & Rich Wilkerson Jr. : Leading in the midst of division
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with his good friend Earl McClellan—a husband, father, pastor, and author—for a powerful conversation about faith, influence, and the battles we all face.Earl shares about his upbringing, a miraculous healing, and the early days of planting a church. He opens up about the daily fight for our identity in Christ, what it means to pick up your cross again and ag
Ep 69 — Old Friends, New Lessons, Same Gospel — Michael Koulianos — Jesus Image — Rich Wilkerson Jr
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Michael Koulianos — an old friend with a fiery love for Jesus and the founder of Jesus Image.In this conversation we walk down memory lane—preaching together in my first year at Rendezvous, the early days of ministry, and the lessons Michael learned traveling the world. Michael also shares the story of meeting his wife Jessica, planting Jesus Image Churc
Ep 68 — Christine Caine’s Story — From Abuse To Redemption — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Christine Caine. Rich first met Christine 25 years ago, and her ministry has been shaping lives around the world ever since. She leads in many spaces as a communicator and an advocate – particularly A21 and Propel Women Christine shares her story of adoption, abuse, and the healing power of Jesus. She reminds us our history doesn’t define our destiny, an
A Message Every Man Needs To Hear — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich unpacks the story of Gideon from Judges 6 and reminds us that fear will try to bury your calling — but God sees more in you than you feel in yourself. He calls you mighty before you even fight the battle. He sends you out with the strength you already have. Whether you've been hiding your gifts, questioning your worth, or waiting until you feel ready, this message
The Heart And The Cost Of Shepherding God’s People — VOUS Pastors Assembly Panel — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich and DawnCheré host a panel from Pastors Assembly—VOUS Church’s two-day gathering created to equip pastors with practical tools, spiritual refreshment, and renewed vision for the long road of ministry.They’re joined by Joel Tudman, Dave Niblock, and Mariah McManus Goss for a conversation on the heart and cost of shepherding God’s people. Together, they explore the relat
VOUS Staff Meeting: The Circle Every Leader Should Live In — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On the road to VOUSCon earlier this year, Rich led a staff meeting to celebrate wins, cast vision, and talk about where they’re headed.In this session, Rich unpacks a leadership principle inspired by Stephen Covey’s The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People: the Circle of Concern, the Circle of Influence, and the Circle of Control. He explains how great leaders focus on what they can actually lead,
Ep 67 — What Dr. Dharius Daniels Has Learnt In His Years Of Leadership — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Dr. Dharius Daniels—pastor, author, and leadership voice—for a powerful breakout conversation recorded live at VOUSCon.In a room full of leaders, they unpack what it means to lead with longevity—spiritually, emotionally, and biblically. From soul wounds to stewardship, this conversation dives deep into the heart behind lasting leadership.They explore the
Ep 66 — Can Structure Kill the Spirit? Rich & Abbie Gamboa Go There — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Abbie Gamboa—worship leader, songwriter, and member of UPPERROOM.Abbie’s life is marked by surrender, spontaneity, and the presence of the Holy Spirit. She opens up about learning to lead before she felt ready, navigating the tension between excellence and expression, and how motherhood reshaped her view of worship and leadership.This conversation is a p
Ep 65 — Joe L Barnes' Experience As A Grammy Winning Worship Leader — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Joe L Barnes—husband, grammy award winning and platinum-selling songwriter, worship leader, and founder of For Every Dreamer.Joe shares the quiet, faithful road behind the songs that have shaped a generation. From hidden seasons of prayer and fasting to the heartbreak that deepened his worship, this conversation explores the weight of calling, the gift o
Ep 64 — You Don’t Have To Pretend — Sadie Robertson Huff Gets Real — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
In this episode, Rich sits down with Sadie to talk about fear, calling, and the pressure to perform. From growing up on Duck Dynasty to competing on Dancing with the Stars, Sadie’s journey has been full of public moments—but the real transformation happened in private.She opens up about the fear that followed her into every season, the temptation to live a double life, and the freedom she found wh
Ep 63 — Charles Metcalf: What No One Tells You About Being Chosen by God – Rich Wilkerson Jr.
In this episode of Mature Me, Rich sits down with Charles Metcalf—preacher, communicator, and author of the powerful new book God Chose Me—for an honest conversation about identity, insecurity, and the radical grace of being chosen by God.Charles opens up about:His battle with insecurity and impostor syndromeWhy being "chosen" doesn’t mean being "ready"The tension between publi
Ep 62 — Bryce Crawford’s Heart Behind His Viral Street Evangelism Ministry — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Bryce Crawford—viral content creator and full-time evangelist—for a powerful conversation recorded during VOUSCON week.Bryce shares how he went from battling anxiety, depression, and bitterness toward God to boldly preaching the Gospel across Los Angeles and online. At 17, a supernatural encounter with Jesus changed everything. Since then, he’s been on a
Ep 61 — John Wilds: What One Encounter with God Can Do — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On the road to VOUSCon, Rich sat down with worship leader and recording artist John Wilds for a powerful conversation about presence, purity, and purpose.John has led worship around the world—but his story starts far from the stage. Raised by a single mother, he experienced homelessness, church hurt, and deep rejection. At 17, he cried out to God—and one encounter changed everything.They talk abou
Ep 60 — The Hidden Work Behind Every Great Sermon With JJ Vasquez — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On this episode of Mature Me: On the Move, Rich sits down with JJ—husband, preacher, and pastor of Journey Church in Orlando—for a conversation about calling, character, and learning to lead through both clarity and cost.JJ doesn’t just talk about faith—he’s lived it.He shares the story of losing his son, planting a church through grief, and how that journey reshaped his understanding of trust, pu
Ep 59 — Jon Gordon On The 3 Leadership Principles You Can't Live Without — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
Less than two weeks from VOUSCon, Mature Me: On The Move continues with bestselling author and leadership coach Jon Gordon.In this episode, Rich sits down with Jon—a voice who has deeply shaped his leadership journey.Long before the bestselling books and leadership conferences, Jon was a husband on the verge of losing his marriage. That breaking point led him to Jesus… to daily gratitude walks… an
Ep 58 — Bodie: God Told Me I'd Be on The Voice…Then I Got Cut — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On this episode of Mature Me: On the Move, Rich sits down with Bodie—singer, songwriter, husband, and father of three—for a powerful conversation about identity, gifting, and the tension between platform and presence.Rich dives into Bodie’s journey: from getting expelled in high school to leading in the Church, from saying no to The Voice until God gave the green light, to learning how to stay gro
Ep 57 — Tim Timberlake On Why Popularity Will Cost You Power — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
Mature Me is on the move.We’re on The Road to VOUSCon—running 400 miles in 40 days from Jacksonville to Miami—serving people, building community, and having conversations along the way.In our first stop in Duval, Rich sits down in the RV with one of his favorite preachers—and longtime friend—Tim Timberlake, senior pastor of Celebration Church.Tim has been pastoring for 21 years. He’s walked throug
Ep 56 — Top CrossFit Athlete Chandler Smith Opens Up About What Matters Most In Life — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Chandler Smith—former U.S. Army officer, West Point graduate, and one of the top CrossFit athletes in the world.From wrestling at a national level to leading in the military to ranking 7th in the world at the CrossFit Games, Chandler’s life has been marked by competition. But beyond the accolades is a story of resilience.In this episode, Chandler shares
Ep 55 – How AI & Social Media Are Changing You — Rich Wilkerson Jr. & Sean Cannell
In this episode of Mature Me, Rich sits down with Sean Cannell—CEO of Think Media and a leading voice in digital strategy.Sean’s been creating videos for over 20 years—before viral content or creator careers were even a thing. What started in a small church has grown into a global media company serving top creators and brands.They talk about: — Building with character — Using AI as a leadership to
Ep 54 — Philip Anthony Mitchell: When Ministry Feels Like War — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
In this episode of the Mature Me Podcast, Rich sits down with Philip Anthony Mitchell: husband, father, pastor and a faithful man of God. Philip Anthony is probably no stranger to you all. He leads 2819 Church in Atlanta, Georgia and is a man of God’s word. They unpacked ministry from all angles and the reality of being held to such a high public standard. They unraveled the idea of what success r
Ep 53 — What Do You Do When Waiting Leaves You Hurting? — Rich & DawnCheré Wilkerson
In today’s episode, Rich is joined by his wife, DawnCheré Wilkerson — as she releases her very first book, Slow Burn.Written over a decade, what began as journal entries and reflections has become a powerful testament to the quiet strength and beauty found in waiting. Slow Burn is about the work and wonder hidden in the waiting. As DawnCheré says, “the wait is not just a season — the wait is life.
Ep 52 — The Theology Of The Cross with Dr Allen Tennison & Dr William Valmyr — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On this episode of the Mature Me Podcast, Rich sits with theologians Dr. Tennison and Dr. Valmyr as well as Dakota Duron and the students of VOUS College of Ministry to talk about the cross and the call to maturity.On the heels of Easter, they discuss the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. They explore dense, theological concepts like the dual nature of Christ, the power of suffering, what
The Weight Of Leadership: I Can't Carry This Alone — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
In this staff meeting edition of Mature Me, Rich shares a message titled “I Can’t Carry This Alone,” drawn from Numbers 11:14 where Moses says,“I cannot carry all these people by myself; the burden is too heavy for me.”Rich unpacks the weight of leadership—and how God’s solution to exhaustion isn’t elimination, but delegation. He speaks honestly about team building, stewardship, and the power of g
The Rules of Culture: How To Lead With Vision – Rich Wilkerson Jr.
In this message from Grow Leader Conference 2025, Rich unpacks the idea that leadership isn’t just about what you say, but what you do. He talks about designing a healthy culture within teams and organizations, and why it's crucial for both building and sustaining momentum along the journey.Culture isn’t created by accident—it’s shaped by what we allow, what we correct, and what we celebrate.
Ep 51 — Todd Mullins: When God’s Plan Doesn’t Look Like Yours — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
In this episode of Mature Me, Rich sits down with Todd Mullins—pastor of Christ Fellowship Church in West Palm Beach, husband of 38 years, father, and first-time author of Don’t Let Doubt Take You Out.Todd has been leading longer than most, and his wisdom reflects a life built on consistent faith. He shares about raising his son Jefferson, navigating doubt, and how brokenness has made him more com
Ep 50 — You Can’t Fake It Forever: Jimmy Rollins on Breaking Point & Restoration — Rich Wilkerson Jr
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Jimmy Rollins—speaker, author, and former pastor who, alongside his wife Irene, spent 25 years in full-time ministry, including 10 years as Senior Pastor of i5 City.They discuss the tension between external success and internal struggle, how easy it is to get comfortable in discomfort, and what it took for Jimmy to step away and rebuild from the inside o
Ep 49 – Dan & JoJo Watson: Leaving Hillsong London & Stepping Into The Unknown – Rich Wilkerson Jr.
This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Dan and Jojo Watson, Location Pastors at Passion City Church and former leaders at Hillsong London, where they helped build and lead a thriving young adult ministry.They discuss building teams, raising leaders, and staying anchored in calling—even when everything shifts. Leadership isn’t about control—it’s about recruiting, raising up, and releasing othe
Ep 48 — Travis Hearn Shares On Almost Losing His Life, The Power of Faith & more — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On Ep 48, Rich sits down with Travis Hearn–leader, pastor, and author, who shares his extraordinary journey of recovery after surviving a massive stroke. His story is a living testament to God’s work through signs and wonders, reminding us that miracles are real and still happening today.They also dive into leadership, ministry, and Travis’ new book, The Fire Is For You, out now. If you’ve been ho
Ep 47 — Erwin McManus: How to Elevate Your Thinking & Unlock Your Purpose — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On ep 47, Rich sits down with Erwin McManus—husband, father, author, Pastor of Mosaic Church, visionary, communicator, and so much more. They dive into the art of communication—not just as a skill, but as a soul connection, leadership, and worship. Erwin breaks down the seven frequencies of communication from his latest book, Seven, and why understanding ourselves and others shapes the quality of
Ep 46 — Confessions of Church Planters — Jabin Chavez, Russell Johnson & Rich Wilkerson Jr.
What does it really take to plant a church? How do you stay obedient when the weight feels overwhelming?On Ep 46, Rich sits down with Russell Johnson and Jabin Chavez, lead pastors of The Pursuit NW in Seattle and City Light Church in Las Vegas. They get real and share the weight of obedience, untold church stories, the pressure of the calling, and how God’s grace meets us in the struggle.Sign up
Ep 45 — Dino Rizzo Talks On How To Build The Church & Stay Planted In Purpose — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On Ep 45, Rich has an insightful conversation with Dino Rizzo—a leader who has spent his life building the Church, pouring into pastors, and helping people step into their purpose.As the Executive Director of ARC, he’s helped plant over 370 churches, but more than that, he has a heart for seeing people stay planted and grow where God has called them to be. We talk about leadership, purpose, and be
Ep 44 — Wes Welker Opens Up: Leaving the NFL, Coaching & Overcoming Setbacks — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On Ep 44, Rich and Dakota Duron sit down with NFL legend Wes Welker, one of the greatest wide receivers to ever play the game. From going undrafted and getting cut to becoming a key part of New England’s winning culture, Wes shares how discipline, consistency, and faith shaped his journey—even when he didn’t understand it at the time. We talk about the highs, the setbacks, his sudden departure fro
Ep 43 — Jason Kennedy: Untold Stories From 25 Years of Friendship — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On Ep 43, Rich sits down with Jason Kennedy—celebrated news anchor, husband, father of two and, believe it or not, Rich's best friend of 25 years! From the highs and lows of his 16-year career at E! News to navigating life’s valleys and mountaintops, Jason shares how he found his identity beyond his job and embraced growth in every season. You won't want to miss this episode full of untold
Ep 42 — Sage Steele Speaks Up: Being Canceled, Navigating Divorce, Finding Purpose — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
What does it mean to stand firm in your convictions, even when the world is against you? To kick off the new year, Rich sits down with Sage Steele—an icon in sports journalism whose story is one of courage, resilience, and purpose. From being canceled by mainstream media to walking through divorce and heartbreak, Sage shares how she found strength in her faith, family, and calling. Now, as the cre
Ep 41 — John Cameron Opens Up: Facing Criticism, Learning To Rest & more — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On ep 41, Rich sits with John Cameron–pastor, author, coach and more. After founding and leading the largest church in New Zealand, John & his wife Gillian are now based on the Gold Coast of Australia and travel the world preaching at Christian events and coaching pastors and leaders. They talk about facing crisis and opposition, learning the rhythms of each season, how to grow and scale what
Ep 40 — Rich & DC Answer All Your Questions on Parenting, Raising Kids, Navigating New Seasons & more
On the verge of welcoming their 4th child, Rich & DawnCheré take some time to answer some of your questions on all things parenthood. From how they raise their kids, to confronting their fears and how they navigate new seasons, they share it all.
Whether you’re a parent, about to be, or just love a good, honest convo, this one’s for you.
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Ep 39 — The Church Tomorrow: Shaping The Next Gen, AI, Legacy & more — Rich Wilkerson Jr. & Rob Hoskins
What does leadership look like in a fast-changing world? On ep 39 Rich sits down with Rob Hoskins, President of OneHope and one of the most respected voices in global development. His work has impacted over 1.9 billion children worldwide. Rob has spent his life serving fellow NGO leaders, pouring into the next generation, and developing sustainable transformation initiatives, locally and globally.
Ep 38 — What Does The Bible REALLY Say About Women In Leadership? — Dr. Allen Tennison, Manouchka Charles & Rich Wilkerson Jr.
Can women lead in church? Can women preach? What does the Bible really say about it? On ep 38, we’re sitting down with Dr. Allen Tennison, Pastor and theologian who helps shape the big theological conversations for the Assemblies of God; and Manouchka Charles, VOUS Church’s location director, pastor and so much more. We’ll unpack scripture, break down leadership roles, and share real stories about
Ep 37 — Chris Mendez: The Trials of Transition, Leading Hillsong South America & more — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On ep 37, Rich welcomes Chris Mendez for a conversation on leadership, adjusting to big life transitions, following your calling and more. Searching for a way out of addiction, Chris turned to Jesus and experienced a radical transformation overnight. By age 20, he joined Hillsong College in Sydney as an intern and, today, he leads their locations in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, and Mexico. In this
Ep 36 — Chris Hodges Shares The Mentor Mindset: Building Leaders, Habits & Discipline — Rich Wilkerson Jr.
On ep 36 of Mature Me, Rich welcomes his own Pastor, Chris Hodges, who leads Church of The Highlands in Birmingham, Alabama. Chris, who also launched GrowLeader and co-founded ARC, shares his knowledge and insights on leadership, being a mentor, parenting tips, the journey of growth and more.
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