The Audit Podcast
The Audit Podcast features conversations with a wide range of professionals in the audit field, from interns to IT audit directors, CAEs, and audit committee members. The show covers integrating technology into audit, achieving quick wins, and the latest SOX guidance, with topics driven by guest interests and listener feedback.
Episodes
Ep 287: First 100 Days as a CAE w/ Danielle Ritter (GitLab)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Danielle Ritter, VP and Head of Internal Audit at GitLab and former CAE at Instacart, joins the show to share lessons from her leadership journey and practical advice for audit professionals at every stage of their careers. Drawing from her experience leading audit functions across multiple organizations, Danielle discusses what matters most during a CAE's first 1
Ep 286: The Human Side of Audit Transformation w/ Aadesh Gandhre & Idania Orengo (DTCC)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Aadesh Gandhre, CAE at DTCC, steps in as guest host for a conversation with his colleague, Idania Orengo, Chief of Staff, Internal Audit at DTCC, about the human side of audit transformation. Drawing from their experiences at DTCC, they discuss how culture, communication, and leadership help build high-performing audit teams. They explain that innovation is not al
Ep 285: How MIT Leaders Are Building AI That Works w/ Michelle Jackson and Edgar Berrio (MIT)
This week, Michelle Jackson and Edgar Berrios, internal audit leaders at MIT, join the show. Drawing from their work at MIT, they share a practical perspective on how AI is being integrated into the audit process. Their approach goes beyond the technology itself, emphasizing the importance of guidelines, mindset, and human oversight to create AI solutions that are effective and responsible. Th
The 2026 Audit Analytics and AI Conference Spring
It's tomorrow! The Audit Analytics and AI Conference is here! One thing I hear constantly at conferences is that there's plenty of AI talk, but not enough real examples of how teams are actually using it day to day. That's always been the goal of this conference. This year, we went back through five years of speakers and brought back some of the highest-rated sessions, the people who didn'
Ep 284: Inside Audit, AI, and What Actually Works w/ Andrew Struthers-Kennedy
This week, Andrew Struthers-Kennedy takes over hosting duties for The Audit Podcast… and interviews me! We cover audit, risk, AI, and technology, with a conversation that ties closely to themes from The Audit Analytics and AI Conference, where innovation and practical adoption are front and center. We get into where AI is showing up in the audit process, what teams can realistically start
Ep 283: Topical Requirement: Organizational Behavior w/ Sandro Boeri (Chartered Institute of Internal Auditors)
This week, Sandro Boeri, former President of the Chartered Institute of Internal Auditors and a globally recognized voice in the profession, joins the show. He brings a perspective shaped by decades in the profession—combining practical experience with a strong focus on leadership, culture, and how internal audit needs to evolve to stay relevant. Rather than focusing only on tools, he emphasi
Ep 282: Why Culture, Not Tech, Drives Audit Innovation w/ Andrew Struthers-Kennedy and Arpit Shah (Audit Innovator Award)
This week, internal audit leaders Andrew Struthers-Kennedy and Arpit Shah join the show. They bring a perspective grounded in real-world innovation—leading a team that's been recognized with the Audit Innovator Award two years in a row. They share how their approach goes beyond tools and technology, focusing instead on mindset, leadership, and creating an environment where ideas can take sh
Ep 281: Bridging the Gap Between Tax and Internal Audit w/ Michelle V. (ITT Inc.)
This week, internal audit leader and tax expert Michelle V. joins the show. Michelle brings a unique perspective, coming from a tax background into internal audit leadership—an area where tax expertise isn't always front and center. She shares insights into her transition from leading tax to stepping into a broader internal audit role, and how that experience shapes the way she approaches eme
Ep 280: Why Passive Voice Is Hurting Your Audit Reports w/ Sara I. James (Radical Reporting)
This week, Sara I. James, author of Radical Reporting: Writing Better Audit, Risk, Compliance, and Information Security Reports (Second Edition), joins the show. Sara shares what's new in the second edition of her book, including a deeper focus on critical thinking and the role of large language models in report writing. She explains why strong writing about more than grammar and how languag
Ep 279: Using EOS to Build a Stronger Audit Function w/ Chris Hallberg (GoExpand
This week, our guest is Chris Hallberg, CEO and founder of Business Sergeant and president and founder of GoExpand, where he helps organizations implement EOS, the Entrepreneurial Operating System. Chris joins the show to share how EOS can help teams build more clarity, accountability, and traction. He breaks down the six key components of the framework and explains why so many organizations str
Ep 278: Trust, Insight, and Audit Leadership w/ Navin Pasricha (Getting Ready to Roar)
This week, our guest is Navin Pasricha, a longtime internal audit leader and author of Getting Ready to Roar: Chief Auditor's Guide from Audit Room to Board Room. Navin joins the show to discuss the profession's current inflection point and the opportunity internal auditors have to move from simply reporting to the board to becoming trusted voices in the boardroom. He explains why audit committ
Ep 277: Key Risks, New Research, and the Future of the Profession w/ Anthony Pugliese (President of the IIA)
This week, our guest is Anthony Pugliese, President and CEO of the Institute of Internal Auditors. Anthony joins the show as he approaches his five-year anniversary leading the IIA, reflecting on the major milestones and progress the organization has made during that time. He shares a look back at key initiatives from the past five years and discusses what the next phase could look like for the
IA on AI – Can we use AI for ICFR and SOX
Links: Norman Marks Article Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. * This p
Ep 276: The Controls Integration Problem: When IT, Finance, and Risk Don't Talk w/ Marc Walrod (Clearsulting)
This week, we'll be joined by Marc Walrod, Controls Integration Leader at Clearsulting. Marc shares why controls integration needs to start far earlier than most organizations think, often in what he calls phase zero of a major transformation. From ERP implementations to rolling out AI across the enterprise, he explains how waiting too long to involve controls can create costly rework and unn
IA on AI – Claude Cowork Walkthrough w/ Brian Kuenzi
Links: Claude Cowork Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. * This podcast is
Ep 275: Turning New Ideas Into Audit Results w/ Brian Kuenzi (Stealth AI Startup)
This week, we'll be joined by Brian Kuenzi, Founder of a Stealth AI Startup. Brian gets specific about what works when audit teams try to modernize. He breaks down why new methodologies fail without clear ownership, discipline, and follow-through and how innovation doesn't mean abandoning rigor. He shares practical examples of how to put structure around new ideas, set non-negotiable expectati
IA on AI – IA Isn't at risk - Not being able to explain it is
AI isn't the risk — not being able to explain it is Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast You
Ep 274: Managing the Hell Out of Your Audit w/ William Englehaupt (Auditology)
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is William Englehaupt, CEO and founder of Auditology and former director at KPMG. Bill shares his perspective on bringing discipline, structure, and consistency to audits by applying Lean and Six Sigma principles to the audit process. Drawing on his experience working with hundreds of audit teams across large public accounting firms, he explains why audi
Ep 273: AI, Gamification, and the Future of Internal Audit w/ Aadesh Gandhre (DTCC)
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Aadesh Gandhre, Chief Audit Executive at DTCC. Aadesh shares his perspective on reshaping the perception of internal audit, both inside organizations and across the profession. Drawing on his background in technology and innovation, he explains why internal audit must move away from being seen as a spotlight that hunts for findings and instead become a
Ep 272: Understanding the IIA's Topical Requirements w/ Roberto Zambelli (Vodafone Three)
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Roberto Zambelli, Head of Audit at Vodafone Three. Roberto breaks down the IIA's new topical requirements, with a particular focus on organizational behavior. He explains how these requirements are part of the IIA's Vision 2035 to modernize internal audit and provide clearer, more practical guidance for auditing complex and traditionally "soft" area
IA on AI – Claude's New Constitution
Links: Claude's new constitution 'Wake up to the risks of AI, they are almost here,' Anthropic boss warns Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to c
Ep 271: Leveraging Analytics and Building Audit Culture w/ David Bowman (Unum Group)
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is David Bowman, Senior Vice President and Global Chief Auditor at Unum Group. David shares his innovative approach to using data analytics across his audit team. He talks through how his team—roughly 60 auditors across three countries and five audit groups—implements analytics in a way that delivers measurable results to stakeholders, even for smaller t
Ep 270: How to Have Real Conversations as an Audit Leader w/ Jason Mefford
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by returning guest Jason Mefford, audit leader advisor and founder of the Audit Leader Forum. Jason shares what it really means to have "real" conversations as an internal audit leader—and why authenticity, not ego, matters most. We talk through the situations where tough conversations come up most often, including with the board, the C-suite, e
Ep 269: What's on the Minds of Boards in 2026 w/ Patrick Niemann (EY)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Patrick Niemann, Partner and Leader of EY's U.S. Center for Board Matters. Pat brings a unique perspective shaped by decades of working directly with boards and audit committees. In this episode, he shares what's top of mind for board members right now—from uncertainty in the economic and geopolitical landscape to evolving expectations around risk
IA on AI - Happy Holidays
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Holiday Giveaway from The Audit Podcast 2025
To wrap up the year, Trent Russell is giving away a copy of Getting Ready to Roar: A Chief Auditor's Guide from Audit Room to Boardroom by Navin Pasricha—a book he believes every auditor should have on their shelf. How to enter: • Find the giveaway post on LinkedIn (from The Audit Podcast or Trent Russell) and leave a comment • Want an extra entry? Leave a written review of The Audit Podcast on S
IA on AI – Keep AI browsers out of your enterprise
Links: Keep AI browsers out of your enterprise, warns Gartner OpenAI warns new models pose 'high' cybersecurity risk Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newslet
Ep 268: Blooper Reel 2025
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're doing something a little different. It's an end-of-year, blooper-style episode that pulls back the curtain on the show. You'll hear the unscripted moments, side comments, and behind-the-scenes bits that usually get edited out—including just how many times Trent says, "Mary Charles cut that out." throughout the episodes (hint it's a lot). Also, be sure
Ep 267: Eric Wilson Interviews Trent Russell (Part 2)
This week on The Audit Podcast, there's a new host in town… and it's not me. Eric Wilson steps in and leads a reverse interview where I finally take a turn as the guest. Be sure to connect with Eric on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full v
Ep 266: Eric Wilson Interviews Trent Russell (Part 1)
This week on The Audit Podcast, there's a new host in town… and it's not me. Eric Wilson steps in and leads a reverse interview where I finally take a turn as the guest. Be sure to connect with Eric on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full v
Ep 265: Stepping into the CAE Role w/ Mike McDonald (BorgWarner)
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Mike McDonald, Chief Audit Executive at BorgWarner. This episode is a little different—it's a replay from one of our sessions at the Audit Analytics and AI Conference, sponsored by Supervisor. Mike has been in the CAE role at BorgWarner for about a year, and he walks us through what that first year has really looked like. We get into what he expect
Ep 264: How Internal Audit Teams Are Building AI Tool with no Tech Background Needed (Snowflake)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by three members of Snowflake's internal audit team: Amrita, Pooja, and Ajay. Amrita Kapoor, Head of Internal Audit at Snowflake, walks us through how their team is using Snowflake's native tools to build practical analytics and AI solutions. She shares several real use cases their internal audit function has deployed—many of which Snowflake customers
IA on AI – The Importance of Human Review for AI Output
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Ep 263: Building Early Career Goals on the Road to Chief Audit Executive w/ Jamie Meziere
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Jamie Meziere, Chief Audit Executive at FedEx. Jamie shares what FedEx's analytics and AI program looks like today and the one thing she wishes every auditor would start doing now. She also talks about the early career goal she set to become a CAE—and how she created a plan, executed on it, and ultimately stepped into the Chief Audit Executive role at
IA on AI – Building Apps and Workflow with Copilot
Links: Microsoft 365 Copilot now enables you to build apps and workflows Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview o
Ep 262: The Importance of Feedback Loops w/ Clarissa Lucas
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Clarissa Lucas, author of Beyond Agile Auditing. Back by popular demand, Clarissa discusses whether auditing with agility is more of a mindset or a methodology—and why focusing on the why matters more than the how. She shares practical ways teams can move from a "practice-first" approach to an agile mindset and highlights key agile practices supported
Ep 261: Why Auditors Need Smarter Tools w/ Ed Zimmer (ControlSense)
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Ed Zimmer, Founder of ControlSense and Principal at Advanced Risk and Controls Analytics, LLC. In this episode, Ed shares what inspired him to launch ControlSense after decades of experience in audit innovation. He talks about the challenges he saw auditors facing, how ControlSense helps solve inconsistencies in the audit process, and why he believes
IA on AI – Auditing AI in police reporting
Links: Concerns about AI-written police reports spur states to regulate the emerging practice That Omani Auditor Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter
Ep 260: How EY Is Helping Clients Implement AI w/ Paul Goodhew (EY)
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Paul Goodhew, Partner and EY Global Assurance Innovation & Emerging Technology. In this episode, Paul discusses how EY is helping clients implement artificial intelligence and the importance of understanding both the potential and risks of this rapidly advancing technology. He explains why AI is different from all other tool auditors have seen, outline
Ep 259: What It Really Takes to Modernize Internal Audit w/ Ronnie Welch
This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Ronnie Welch, Chief Audit Executive at Guardian Life. Ronnie has spent his career in insurance audit, with experience at MetLife, Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, and several Big Four firms. In this episode, Ronnie talks about how he's modernizing internal audit and shares the practical steps his team has taken at Guardian Life. He explains his t
IA on AI – Dealing with Unmanageable Expectations of AI within your Company
Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. * This podcast is brought to you by Gree
Ep 258: Bringing Audit Data to Life with Visualizations w/ Valerie Ann Zappia (Victoria's Secret)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Valerie Zappia, Internal Audit Data Analytics Manager at Victoria's Secret. In this episode, she takes the opportunity to address those unanswered questions and share her perspective on the challenges many audit teams are facing today. She discusses the realities of managing data availability and quality issues, how to navigate the ever-present deb
Ep 257: Why Public Sector Projects Fail w/ Matthew Oleniuk
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Matthew Oleniuk, founder of The Risk Insider and former Chief Audit Executive in the public sector. Matthew shares lessons from 15 years as a CAE, what he's most passionate about right now, and his perspective on how to predict whether public sector projects will succeed—or fail. Be sure to connect with Matthew on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to
IA on AI – Injected AI Bots and The Rise of Orphan Agents
Links: 2025 Audit Analytics and AI Conference United Airlines AI bot injected because it kept refusing to connect with a human The rise of orphan agents: autonomy without control Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodc
Ep 256: Soft Skills = Power Skills w/ Geoff Kovesdy & Jimena Escamilla
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Geoff Kovesdy, who leads Digital Controls AI and Automation, and Jimena Escamilla, Senior Manager in Deloitte's Advisory group. They share their favorite ChatGPT and Copilot prompts, talk about the one thing auditors should focus on right now, and discuss how audit teams can get AI and innovation wrong—and how to avoid those mistakes. The conversatio
IA on AI – How Finance Leaders Are Using AI and What Audit Can Learn
Links: Anthropic reports outages, Claude and Console impacted Charting the Future: How CFOs Are Navigating Change with Technology and Foresight Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up
Ep 255: Follow the Risk w/ Richard Chambers (AuditBoard)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Richard Chambers, Senior Advisor of Risk and Audit for AuditBoard. Richard is celebrating his 50th anniversary as an auditor this month, making this the perfect time to reflect on lessons learned over his career. In this conversation, he shares advice for auditors at every stage, the mindset behind his mantra "follow the risk," his predictions for t
IA on AI – Building Stronger AI Governance Frameworks
Register for the 2025 Audit Analytics and AI Conference: https://theauditanalyticsconference.com/ Links: Warner Bros Sues Midjourney Over AI-Generated Characters Banks Pivot from GenAI Hype to Responsible AI AI Ethics Incidents Double Amid Soaring Adoption Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: htt
Ep 254: Emerging Leader Mentoring Program w/ Alex Rusate
In this episode of The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Alex Rusate, Senior Vice President and Director of Internal Audit at Arrow Financial, and former chair of the IIA's Emerging Leaders Mentoring Program. Alex shares how the program began in 2019, grew so quickly that the IIA brought in full-time support, and has continued to thrive ever since. As both one of the first mentees and later a leader
Ep 253: AI, Learning, and Leadership in Internal Audit w/ Jessica Rodgers (EY)
In this episode of The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Jessica Rogers, Global Internal Audit Leader at Ernst & Young. Jessica shares her journey to becoming a leader at one of the world's largest professional services firms and what it really takes to reach that level. From her passion for continuous learning to her forward-thinking approach to AI, Jess gives insight into how internal audit profes
IA on AI – The AI Oversight Gap
Links: The AI Oversight Gap: IBM's 2025 Data Breach Report Reveals Hidden Costs of Ungoverned AI EisnerAmper Survey Finds as Employees Embrace AI, Employer Oversight Lags AI startup reaped millions using bogus claims, FTC suit says Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theaudi
Ep 252: A Path to AGI w/ John Thompson (The Hackett Group Inc.)
In this episode of The Audit Podcast, John Thompson returns to discuss his new book, The Path to AGI. With over 40 years in the field of artificial intelligence, John provides a grounded perspective on what AGI really means—and why it won't arrive as quickly as many headlines suggest. John's book: A Path to AGI Be sure to connect with John on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our soci
IA on AI – ChatGPT-5 Launch: What Internal Auditors Need to Know
Open AI Finally Laucned ChatGPT 5 - heres everything you need to know Hackers Hijacked Google's Gemini AI With a Poisoned Calendar Invite to Take Over a Smart Home Tesla ordered by Florida jury to pay $243 million in fatal Autopilot crash Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/
Ep 251: Practical Tips from a Chief Auditor on Driving Change w/ Rafael Kon (Mitsubishi Power)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Rafael Kon, Chief Auditor at Mitsubishi Power, talks about how internal audit can stay connected to a company's strategy while keeping controls strong. He shares how he uses automation and data to improve processes, why shorter and more practical audit reports can be more effective, and how his thinking on audit co-sourcing has changed over time. Rafael also gives h
Ep 250: Process Improvement Starts with Curiosity w/ Genna Smith (RYAM)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Genna Smith, Director of Internal Audit at RYAM. She believes process improvement starts with mindset, and that even the smallest changes can lead to real impact. In this episode, she shares how she's using tools like ChatGPT to build SOPs from the ground up, standardize processes, and support her team through AI adoption. We also hear how she a
IA on AI – Why AGI Doesn't Actually "Think"… At Least Not Yet (feat. John Thompson)
Links: John Thompson Book - The Path to AGI: Artificial General Intelligence: Past, Present, and Future * Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to ch
IA on AI – Fake Data, Deleted Code, and the Risk We're Not Ready For
Links: From Gizmodo.com - Replit's AI Agent Wipes Company's Codebase During Vibecoding Session From Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWpg1RmzAbc From Financial Times - Can finance put a stop to AI data mining? * Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagra
Ep 249: Training Your Audit Team for the New AI Era w/ Anthony Reyes (Remitly)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Anthony Reyes, Vice President of Internal Audit at Remitly. Anthony believes AI in audit isn't a "someday" thing—it's already happening. In this episode, he talks about the real ways AI is being used right now, including how it's helping with testing controls and building smarter audit tools. We also hear how he's training his team to work with AI a
IA on AI - Special Alert on ChatGPT Agents
This week on The AI in IA Podcast, we're taking a closer look at one of the newest AI developments: ChatGPT's autonomous agents. What can they actually do and more importantly, what are the risks? We break down OpenAI's own policy to highlight security concerns that internal auditors (and really, any user) need to know. From real-world examples like booking a dinner or a haircut to the dangers o
IA on AI – McDonald's Bot Breach, Google's AI Cyber Win, and Nvidia Hits $4 Trillion
This week on IA on AI, we break down the McDonald's hiring bot fiasco — yes, the one where an AI chatbot exposed data from over 60 million job applicants due to a shockingly simple security lapse. We explore why these matters to internal auditors and what basic control failures like this can teach us about staying vigilant as AI becomes more embedded in business processes. Plus: An update on t
Ep 248: What Really Matters When Building an Audit Team w/ Mike Padilla (Starbucks)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Mike Padilla, Senior Manager of Internal Audit and SOX Leader at Starbucks. Mike brings a refreshing perspective on the internal audit profession—starting with the idea that we might need to stop taking ourselves so seriously. His insights are especially relevant for those thinking about the future of the profession and how we recruit the next gene
IA on AI – AI Voice Clones a Senator, State-Led Regulation, and What the FRC Just Made Clear
In today's episode of IA on AI, we cover an AI voice scam impersonating a high-ranking official, the sweeping new "Big Beautiful Bill" on AI regulations, and landmark AI guidance just released by the FRC. They break down: • A Marco Rubio impostor is using AI voice to call high-level officials - washingtonpost.com • 'Big Beautiful Bill' Leaves AI Regulation to States and Localities … For N
Ep 247: Why Internal Audit Should Lead the AI Charge w/ Shannon Urban (Hasbro)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Shannon Urban, Chief Audit Executive at Hasbro. In this episode, Shannon shares how she's leading her team through a major shift—reallocating about half of her full-time audit staff—and why that move is positioning her team for long-term impact. She also discusses how she's upskilling her team on AI and analytics and what conversations she's having
IA on AI – Ep 1: Is AI Taking Over Audit Jobs?
In the first episode of IA on AI, John Thompson joins Trent to talk about one of the biggest questions in the audit world right now: Is AI Taking Over Audit Jobs? They break down: What AI can and can't do (yet) in audit How the role of the auditor might shift Why this isn't just about losing jobs — it's about changing how we work They also touch on what to expect from the show going forwar
Ep 246: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 4 w/ Kevin Ryan
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Kevin Ryan, former Chief Risk Review Officer and General Auditor at KeyBank, where he spent 38 years—15 of those in audit leadership. In this episode, Kevin reflects on the importance of relationships and shares how he was able to gain the ear of the CEO, something many auditors strive for. He also offers a pe
Ep 245: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 3 w/ Mike Jenkins
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Mike Jenkins, former VP of Internal Audit at Facebook, Gap, and Included Health, and former Director of Financial Audit at Google. Since retiring, Mike has embraced a new chapter—as an artist. In this episode, he shares how creativity has always been a superpower for him, both in his art and throughout his audit
Ep 244: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 2 w/ Dale Jeanes
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Dale Jeanes, former General Auditor (CAE) at Truist, where he spent an impressive 34 years. Dale now leads Jeanes Professional Development, where he coaches internal audit, risk management, and finance professionals. In this episode, Dale joins the show to reflect on his career and his current work as a coach. He
Ep 243: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 1 w/ Robert Brewer
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're kicking off our Retired CAE Summer Series with Bob Brewer, former Chief Audit Executive at Las Vegas Sands and former Chief Compliance Officer at Office Depot. With almost two years of retirement under his belt, Bob joins the show to reflect on his career from a fresh perspective. In this episode, he shares what he would do differently if he had the chance to
Ep 242: Audit Like a Storyteller w/ Shagen Ganason (Liva Group)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Shagen Ganason, Group Chief Auditor, and Chief Audit Executive at Liva Group. In this episode, Shagen shares the inspiration behind his new book, The Storyteller's Ledger, and why he believes storytelling is one of the most powerful tools internal auditors can develop. From rethinking traditional audit reports to presenting to the board, Shagen off
Ep 241: How to Win Support for ERM w/ Beth Womersley (Universal Destination & Experiences)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Beth Womersley, Head of Assurance & Advisory Services at Universal Destination & Experiences. Beth shares her experience launching and leading ERM programs across multiple organizations. As internal audit teams take on more ERM responsibilities, she shares tips on where to start, how to get support from leadership, and what frameworks to consider. B
Ep 240: Practical Tips to Improve Workplace Communication w/ Nancy Yuen (SoFi)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Nancy Yuen, Financial Data and VP of SOX Governance at SoFi. In this episode, Nancy shares how emotional intelligence has been a driving force behind her career success—from her early days at KPMG to leadership roles at Clorox, Google, and now SoFi. Nancy realized she needed to intentionally build her emotional intelligence in order to thrive pr
Ep 239: Reimagining Audit Staffing w/ Chris Denver
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Ep 237: Protocol for Preparing for Your Best Audit Committee Meeting Ever w/ Rob Clark Jr. (Howard University)
This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Rob Clark Jr., Chief Auditing and Compliance Officer at Howard University. In this episode, Rob breaks down the one skill that separates good auditors from great ones: communication. He pulls back the curtain on how he preps, practices, and performs, whether it's a team meeting, a presentation, or a high-stakes conversation. Be sure to connect wit
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This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Andrew Clark, Co-Founder and CTO of Monitaur. In this episode, Andrew shares his unique perspective on agentic AI, challenging common assumptions about what AI agents actually are. He explores the marketing problem with AI and agents, why agents might not be what we think, and the governance challenges that come with them. Be sure to connect wi
Ep 231: Enhancing Audit Analytics: Lessons in Automation and AI w/ Ishan Kunkur (Delta Air Lines)
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