Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime
Hosted by Jami Rice, Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime is a true crime podcast that focuses on the complex and often shocking world of female scam artists and fraudsters. Each episode takes a deep dive into real cases, carefully unpacking how these women orchestrated their schemes, who was impacted, and how the investigations ultimately unfolded. Jami Rice presents the stories with a clear, methodical approach, no banter or unnecessary commentary, just well-researched facts delivered in a logical, easy-to-follow narrative. Her straightforward storytelling, combined with a calm and soothing tone, makes even the most unsettling tales of deception and financial crime more approachable while still conveying the seriousness and consequences of each case.
Episodes
INTRODUCING: Bravo's Most Wanted with Jami Rice & Katie Ginella
In this premiere episode of the new podcast, Bravo’s Most Wanted, hosts Jami Rice and Katie Ginella open up and share details about their lives before they became friends and co-hosts. The ladies answer a few questions submitted by their followers, dive into their personal and professional backgrounds, and also share how they met and became friends. They also get into some Bravo hot topics and giv
Welcome to the FBI’s Most Wanted List (phony heiress update) | Dirty Money Moves S1 E15
Since we concluded our season 1 investigative series on Mary Carole McDonnell, the phony Hollywood heiress, in July 2022 there haven't been any material updates in her case. It’s been crickets for the past few years until early December 2025 when Mary Carole was added to the FBI’s Most Wanted list. Suddenly, Mary Carole’s case was making headlines with every news outlet you can think of. Jami, hos
“No Apologies” | DMM S7 E9
Like it or not, Todd and Julie Chrisley are out of prison, way ahead of schedule, thanks to President Trump’s pardon. It seems like the short 28 months they did spend in federal prison didn’t do much to change their narrative, however. Just two days after Todd and Julie’s release from their respective prisons, Todd held a press conference where he proclaimed that he was convicted of something he d
“I Beg Your Pardon?” | DMM S7 E8
Todd and Julie Chrisley were convicted in June 2022, after a mountain of solid evidence was presented to the jury. The Chrisleys were finally going to be held accountable for their schemes. It’d been a long time coming, especially if you take into consideration the many years Todd and Julie stiffed contractors and vendors along the way, or the homeowners who were scammed after putting their trust
“Chrisleys Don’t Know Best” | DMM S7 E7
Todd and Julie Chrisley’s reality TV show, “Chrisley Knows Best,” became popular, in part, for their apparent family values. They were often seen on the show trying to teach their children how to be good Christians and live moral, honest lives. But we know that Todd acted one way on the TV show and a whole other way off camera, in a sort of a “do as I say, not as I do” lifestyle. From the vulgar a
Todd & Julie Chrisley: “Daddy Douchebag” | S7 E6
From 2014 to 2017 Todd and Julie Chrisley were riding high on the success of “Chrisley Knows Best.” But fans had no idea about Todd and Julie’s extensive criminal history, lawsuits, or exactly what the bankruptcies entailed because all of those things happened before the Chrisley’s fame, when no one was paying attention. In 2017, however, everyone would be paying attention as that was the year tha
Todd & Julie Chrisley: “Bougie and Bankrupt” | S7 E5
On July 15, 2014, the Chrisley family was in Los Angeles to promote their reality TV show “Chrisley Knows Best.” Though it had only been on air a few months, the show had blown up and made the Chrisleys a household name. What viewers didn’t know was at that very moment, as the Chrisleys walked the red carpet, Todd and Julie were knee-deep in bankruptcy litigation. “Chrisley Knows Best” viewers did
Todd & Julie Chrisley: “D!CK-notized” | S7 E4
It’s no secret that Todd Chrisley’s eccentric and flamboyant personality, along with his enthusiasm for fashion and decorating has had people questioning his sexuality for years. In December 2022, just a few weeks after his sentencing for federal fraud convictions, Todd addressed allegations about his sexual activity. The allegations came straight from the witness stand during Todd’s federal trial
Todd & Julie Chrisley: “HR Nightmare” | S7 E3
There have been many episodes of “Chrisley Knows Best” where Todd Chrisley makes a crass sexual comment and it’s played off as being just another silly, wacky thing Todd says. Not everyone finds Todd’s behavior funny, though. Before TV cameras followed his every move, there were severe allegations made about Todd’s abusive, degrading, and sexually charged comments in the workplace. Todd’s TV perso
Todd & Julie Chrisley: “The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far” | S7 E2
Todd and Julie Chrisley’s criminal actions are well documented in court records. What we don’t know is the “why.” Why’d they choose to enter into a life of crime? Today, experts tend to agree that criminal behavior isn’t decided by just one factor, but rather a complex combination of both the environment and a person’s biology. A person learns behavior from their environment, but it’s their genes,
Todd & Julie Chrisley: “Reality Check” | S7 E1
If you’ve been a reality TV fan over the last 10 years, you likely know the names Todd and Julie Chrisley. The couple starred in the wildly popular reality TV show “Chrisley Knows Best.” The show, which aired on the USA Network, chronicled the exceptionally lavish lives of Todd, the overbearing and devoted family man, and his former beauty queen wife, Julie, along with their equally quirky family.
Melissa Caddick: “DJ No Remorse” | S6 E5
On December 5, 2020, Sydney Morning Herald reporter Kate Mclymont pulled back the curtain on Melissa Caddick and alerted her investors to just how significant Melissa’s scams were. Authorities were tasked with recovering the money Melissa had stolen from her clients. As the mystery of the missing millions grew larger, angry investors wanted answers. Authorities quickly turned their attention to Me
Melissa Caddick: “The Devil is Exposed at the Dentist” | S6 E4
After cheating her way into becoming a trusted financial advisor, Melissa Caddick proceeded to rip off her clients. Even her own parents weren’t safe from Melissa’s greed. In this episode, we’ll get to the moment when Melissa’s schemes were uncovered, and focus on what ultimately led authorities to investigate her business dealings. We’re pulling back the curtain on one of the most successful fema
Melissa Caddick: “Bottom Shelf Bernie Madoff” | S6 E3
Melissa Caddick appeared to be one of Australia’s most successful private investors …jet-setting around the world on private planes while draped in designer clothing. She’d graced magazine covers and was considered to be one of the wealthiest and most trusted financial advisors in the country.
Then, following a federal raid on her multi-million dollar home in Sydney, Australia in November 2020, M
Melissa Caddick: “Origins of a Con Woman” | S6 E2
Australian con woman Melissa Caddick's sudden disappearance in November 2020 following a federal raid on her house sparked hundreds of theories about her whereabouts. Many believed Melissa had escaped with her money and gone into hiding. Others thought she’d been abducted and suspects ranged from angry investors to her ex-husband, Tony Caddick. Then there were the conspiracy theories. When Melissa
Melissa Caddick: “Something is aFOOT” | S6 E1
On February 21, 2021, a grizzly discovery was made on Bournda Beach on the southern coast of New South Wales, Australia. A designer athletic shoe washed up on the beach. Inside of it, was a decomposing foot. After taking DNA samples from family members of missing persons in the area, the shoe and samples matched with a woman named Melissa Caddick, a 49-year-year old who’d been missing for three mo
Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “The Black Widow Trial” | S5 E5
Fred Downie, the elderly man who’d moved to Southern California to live out the rest of his years under the care of Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt, had died under mysterious circumstances. Even so, his death was ruled an accident and there was nothing to stop a man from giving his fortune away. Although Fred’s case was off the table, in March 2008, the Black Widows were going on trial for the
Presenting: KILLER MINDS
Formerly known as Mind of A Serial Killer, Killer Minds takes you deep into the psychology of history’s most chilling murderers—from infamous serial killers to ruthless cult leaders, deadly exes, and terrifying spree killers. Every Monday and Thursday, hosts Vanessa Richardson and Dr. Tristin Engels, a Clinical and Forensic Psychologist, blend gripping true crime storytelling with expert psycholog
Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “Black Widows” | S5 E4
Following their 2006 arrest for mail and wire fraud, the LAPD and the FBI continued trying to build a murder case against Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt. They’d found some evidence during raids on the women’s homes, but everything collected up until that point still wasn’t enough to build a murder case. The FBI continued trying to find anything to tie Helen and Olga to Paul Vados’s and Kenneth
Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “Fractured Friendship” | S5 E3
In 2006, over a year after unhoused man Kenneth McDavid was found run down in a back alley in Westwood, California, insurance investigator Ed Webster had unearthed some interesting information. Ed brought his investigation findings to the LAPD, who began surveilling Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt. Soon, the FBI was brought in. They summoned the women's bank records and raided their homes, whic
Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “New Targets” | S5 E2
In 2002, Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt were riding high following their first successful life insurance scam. Before the women set their sights on their next victim, Kenneth McDavid, there was another scheme brewing. This one, developing across the country, and involving an elderly man named Fred Downie. At 96-years-old, this widowed New Englander owned a house on Cape Cod, and somehow befrie
Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “Friends Who Fraud Together” | S5 E1
On June 21, 2005, a 50-year-old unhoused man named Kenneth McDavid was left for dead in a back alley just off of Westwood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Police believed that he’d been the victim of a hit-and-run. After a distant female cousin came forth claiming to be Kenneth’s only living relative, the case was closed and the cause of death was listed as “unknown.”
When a New York insurance claims de
Samantha Azzopardi: “The Last Scam, for Now” | S4 E5
A few months after Samantha Azzopardi was sentenced to three years of Community Corrections Order following her latest fake identity scam, where she claimed to be a pregnant 15-year-old victim of sexual abuse, she answered an advertisement placed by a lawyer in Sydney named Theresa Power. Theresa needed a nanny for her young daughter and “Maya Malicka” answered the call. Maya claimed to be 19, Pol
Samantha Azzopardi: "Using Kids for Cons" | S4 E4
Samantha Azzopardi’s latest alias, a 13-year-old named Harper Hart, had convinced a foster family to take her in while living in Sydney. But, “Harper’s” stories of being in the witness protection program alerted officials, who then sought to confirm her identity. For weeks, they found nothing and Harper remained silent. Then, a colleague at the police station casually brought up the case of the GP
Samantha Azzopardi: “Faux Pair” | S4 E3
Samantha Azzopardi had been living under the alias “Emily,” a 14-year-old gymnast from Russia, when she convinced her friend Hope’s family to adopt her. In this instance, however, her story got much darker than anything else Samantha had ever presented.
According to Hope, Emily claimed that she was severely traumatized by a murder-suicide in her family. Hope’s family believed her, and took her in
Samantha Azzopardi: “The Grifter Goes to Church” | S4 E2
When a young girl was found distraught and non-communicative in the streets of Dublin in 2013, it kicked off one of Ireland’s biggest mysteries. After the Dublin police had exhausted all of their options, they got permission to release a photo of the girl to the media in hopes of finding out her true identity. When Garda eventually did, they discovered she wasn’t a 14-year-old as initially expecte
Introducing: "Mind of a Serial Killer "
What makes a serial killer? Mind of a Serial Killer takes you deep into the twisted minds of history’s most notorious serial killers. Every Monday, hosts Vanessa Richardson and Dr. Tristin Engels, a Clinical and Forensic Psychologist, combines gripping true crime storytelling with expert psychological analysis to answer the question - what makes a serial killer? From Jeffrey Dahmer to Ted Bundy, e
Samantha Azzopardi: “The GPO Girl” | S4 E1
In October 2013, two police officers in Dublin, Ireland came across a disheveled, emaciated and distressed teenage girl wandering around by herself outside the General Post Office. She was unable to speak, using only primitive sign language to show her age. From what the officers could translate, the girl indicated that she was 14-years-old.
Child welfare authorities took her to a nearby childre
"The Heiress Who Hu$tled Hollywood”
While Jami takes time off from recording Dirty Money Moves during the Holidays, we’re releasing an episode of her other podcast, Lipstick & Lies. In this episode of Lipstick & Lies, Jami walks co-host Melissa Moore through the topic of our very first season of Dirty Money Moves, the case of Mary Carole McDonnell -“The Heiress Who Hu$tled Hollywood.”
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"Hollywood Ending?" | S3.5 E4
It’s been over two years since Elisabeth Finch took her leave of absence from the “Grey’s Anatomy” writer’s room. Once she realized she wouldn’t be getting rehired, and that her web of lies had spun violently out of control, she returned to the same Arizona treatment center where she first met her now ex-wife Jennifer Beyer. Over six months after returning to the treatment center, Elisabeth sat do
"Beyer’s Remorse" | S3.5 E3
“Grey’s Anatomy” star writer and producer Elisabeth Finch was just confronted by her new wife, Jennifer Beyer, about her supposed cancer claims. A former registered nurse, Jennifer noticed that Elisabeth didn’t seem to have a port scar for chemotherapy treatments. She’d seen photos of Elisabeth during chemotherapy with a bald head, but also with full eyebrows and eyelashes …something she’d never w
"Jo Mama" | S3.5 E2
“Grey’s Anatomy” star writer and producer Elisabeth Finch was apparently going through a lot in the middle of 2019. She remained on top at Grey’s, becoming the de facto writer for any episode dealing with cancer as a subject matter, but she just couldn’t seem to catch a break in her personal life. She claimed she’d lost a kidney to cancer and said she’d been forced to abort a fetus in the early st
"Grey's Anatomy Grifter" | S3.5 E1
Hollywood writer and TV producer Elisabeth Finch seemed to have it all. After breaking through as a staff writer on the shows “True Blood” and “The Vampire Diaries” at a fairly young age, she was hired at her favorite TV show “Grey's Anatomy.” She got the gig after Shonda Rhimes was handed an article that Elisabeth had written for Elle Magazine about her devastating battle with a rare form of bone
S3 E10: “Scam Chat with Drinking the Koolaid” - Part 2
In this two-part episode of Dirty Money Moves Jami brings on the hosts of hit podcast, Drinking the Koolaid, Amanda Goodness and Cassidy Liston. The ladies discuss all things scammy, true crime, and reality tv. Cassidy shares her experience eating at Tracii Hustona’s restaurant, Breakfast Bitch while Amanda makes spot-on comparisons between some of reality tv’s biggest villains and Tracii Hutsona.
S3 E9: “Scam Chat with Drinking the Koolaid” - Part 1
In this two-part episode of Dirty Money Moves Jami brings on the hosts of hit podcast, Drinking the Koolaid, Amanda Goodness and Cassidy Liston. The ladies discuss all things scammy, true crime, and reality tv. Cassidy shares her experience eating at Tracii Hustona’s restaurant, Breakfast Bitch while Amanda makes spot-on comparisons between some of reality tv’s biggest villains and Tracii Hutsona.
S3 E8: Debbie Lindstrom: "Sister of a Scammer"
In this eye-opening episode of Dirty Money Moves Jami interviews Debbie Lindstrom, sister of Tracii Hutsona. Join us as Debbie provides insight on her childhood and potential early signs of who Tracii would become as an adult. With a professional background in Psychology, Debbie sheds light on the psychological elements that may be at play in her sister’s story. Debbie also shares what it was like
S3 E7: Loriann Hart: “Friends with a Felon”
In this episode Jami interviews Loriann Hart, a former close friend of Tracii Hutsona’s for many years. When it seemed Tracii and her family might be without housing, Loriann allowed them to live in her palatial guest house for free. According to Loriann, Tracii repaid the generous favor by inviting questionable guests over to the home and attempting to seduce Loriann’s then husband. Unaware of Tr
S3 E6: “I’ll Be Back B*tches”
In February 2023, Tracii Hutsona was sentenced to 51 months in Federal Prison for her crimes against Joumana Kidd, and given until April 13th to voluntarily turn herself in to the US Marshals. She ended up turning herself in on March 20th, about a month early, to the prison camp at FCI Phoenix. At first glance, it might seem that Tracii was eager to take responsibility for her actions and start se
S3 E5: “B*tch Behind Bars”
On July 17, 2019, The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon aired on NBC. Four minutes into Jimmy’s opening monologue, he made reference to a real-life lawsuit that seemed too ridiculous to be true: the owners of a Miami restaurant, called Bacon Bitch, were suing the owners of a San Diego restaurant called Breakfast Bitch. He joked that it would be the first case ever where the judge would say “how d
S3 E4: “Smoke and Mirrors”
In January 2007 NBA star point guard for the New Jersey Nets, Jason Kidd, filed for divorce from his wife: actress and journalist Joumana Kidd. What followed was an extremely messy, and very public end to their 10 year marriage. Fast forward 8 years to 2015, Joumana decided it was a good time to move back to her home state of California. As she was preparing to go to Los Angeles to do some house h
S3 E3: “With Friends Like These …”
It’s September 2008 and Tracii Hutsona has been out on bond for the last 10 months. By this time, the original indictment has been superseded twice, adding numerous charges for the schemes she pulled at several staffing agencies. Tracii has also been evicted from her $1.5 million Orange County, CA home for failing to pay over $30,000 in rent, but Jacqueline Ellman didn’t know any of this. If she h
S3 E2: “Not a Basic B*tch”
Tracii Hutsona is so persuasive that she was able to convince a car dealership that she needed an expensive, fancy car for Arnold Schwarzenegger to drive. As a testament to her level of con artistry, she got the car! Tracii, however, maintains that this story isn’t true, that stories about her criminal history are merely exaggerations to make her look bad. She’s also highly offended at being label
S3 E1: “B*tch in Handcuffs”
It’s early February, 2021 in Phoenix Arizona. Federal agents have been on the hunt for Tracii Hutsona, a woman wanted on charges of wire fraud and aggravated identity theft for stealing more than $1 million from her cancer-stricken, single mother of three employer. Tracii’s motive: she needed funding for her lavish lifestyle. Agents find Tracci at her restaurant “Breakfast Bitch.” She tried to run
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Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime is BACK! In Season 3, we’re deep diving into the case involving Tracii Hutsona, a self-described “winner” who appeared to have it all: successful businesses, multimillion dollar mansions, luxury cars, and plenty of cash to spend on high end jewelry and vacations. She’s an intriguing woman who’s had a lengthy acting and modeling career, one that saw he
Dr. Joni Johnston: "Psychology of a Scammer" | S2 E9
This week, Jami Rice speaks with Dr. Joni E. Johnston, a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, author and private investigator. Together, they discuss the Tara Lee adoption scam case as well as Tara’s intense lack of empathy and toxic manipulation of adoptive parents and birth parents.
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Teresa Matheny: "Adoption Scam Survivor" | S2 E8
This week, Jami Rice speaks with Teresa Matheny, a survivor of Tara Lee’s adoption scandal. Teresa opened up about all of the hoops she had to jump through to get the baby she was promised from Tara Lee, which almost didn’t happen. She also walks Jami through how she met Tara, and how she discovered that she was a con artist running adoption scams.
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Talia Goetting & Tonya Corrado: "Taking Down a Scammer" | S2 E7
Attorneys Talia Goetting & Tonya Corrado worked with Tara for a time. They were actually about to go into business with her when everything came to a screeching halt. Talia and Tonya began noticing red flags, and soon enough, they were working with the FBI to take Tara down.
In this episode, you’ll hear directly from Talia and Tonya about their experience working with Tara, and how everything went
“Time For Change” | S2 E6
Tara Lee had the opportunity to quietly do her prison time and follow through on the court’s orders, but she just couldn’t do it. Tara began making statements that she was innocent; she didn’t complete the victim impact statement recordings as ordered by the court; and she began filing appeals to have her conviction vacated, all of which kept her firmly in the Detroit headlines.
So, where does T
“The Worst Case” | S2 E5
Tara Lee’s sentence hearing was attended by dozens of her victims, many of whom traveled great distances to see her be punished. They sobbed while giving statements to the court about how Tara hurt them. Some people even addressed Tara directly.
It wasn’t only adoptive families speaking, birth mothers and fathers, people who had their children taken from them without their consent all made their
“To Bond or Not to Bond” | S2 E4
Tara Lee told horrible lies about birth mothers being murdered, babies dying during childbirth, or mothers deciding to keep their babies when, in reality ..there wasn’t a mother or baby at all. Thanks to the efforts of several adoptive parents and the lawyers who worked with Tara, the FBI was notified and given a ton of information to go on as they began investigating her. The FBI also identified
“Trail of Deceit” | S2 E3
Tara Lee and her husband Jeremy were in financial ruin. They had lost another home to foreclosure, and Tara’s wages were still being heavily garnished. There was another bankruptcy, the purchase of another, larger home, a new car, and they adopted two babies between 2012 and 2014.
During all of her financial woes, Tara established Always Hope and it appeared to be a successful, legit adoption ag
“Merging Families” | S2 E2
Last week’s episode covered Tara Lee’s extensive history of fraud and the numerous civil judgments that had been levied against her, which dramatically affected her finances for years to come. And by the time 2014 rolled around, there were a few more financial setbacks. Even so, it seemed like Tara made some positive steps toward changing her life: she’d gone to school, gotten a degree, and was tr
“Becoming Tara Lee” | S2 E1
In season two of Dirty Money Moves, Jami’s taking you along on a deep dive into a woman with an expensive taste for luxury jewelry and accessories, who satisfied her desires by taking money from the vulnerable and disadvantaged; a woman who preyed on the hopes and dreams of hundreds of desperate people, destroying countless families for generations to come. Tara Lee is a con artist of the worst ki
“Cults, Scams and MLMs, Oh My!” with Roberta Blevins | Beachbody Mini Series E4
This week, host of Life After MLM podcast Roberta Blevins joins Jami to end the mini-series on Beachbody. Together, they chat about the manipulation of MLMs and how just because you’re selling lipstick and shakes, it’s still very culty and there are repercussions. Plus, Roberta reveals some of the experiences she’s had pre and post MLM.
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“Be a Product of the Product” | Beachbody Mini Series E3
In the last episode, Jami talked about Beachbody’s highly sought after and controversial shake brand, Shakeology, and whether there’s any magic to them …or if they’re just an expensive snack. This week, Jami discusses Beachbody “coaches” and how they use problematic sales tactics to get more people to join their MLM company.
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Shakeology: Meal Replacement or Pricey Snack? | Beachbody Mini Series E2
In this episode, Jami talks about Beachbody’s favorite meal replacement drink...Shakeology. Are these shakes a healthy weight loss tool, or are they more of a problematic, restrictive eating tool?
Where things get very dicey is when Beachbody “coaches,” who don’t have any health or nutrition expertise, are touting the product as being a nutritious meal replacement and a proper weight loss tool, w
“You’re a coach …everyone’s a coach!” | Beachbody Mini Series E1
Now that we’ve wrapped our mini series on Gwen Shamblin, we’re bringing you another one. In this mini series, we’re tackling an enterprise many of you are probably familiar with. Multi-level marketing companies, or MLMs.
Specifically Beachbody, an MLM that offers the girlboss dream …financial independence, working from home and being your own boss. But, you know that old saying “if it seems too
“Gwen SHAMblin Lara” with Emily Hanks | Mini Series E5
This week, Emily Hanks, host of She Speaks Bravo podcast, joins Jami to end the mini-series on Gwen Shamblin Lara. Together, they chat about the registered dietician turned church leader and her shocking demise.
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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Fall of the Profitable Prophet” | Mini Series E4
What began as a normal private plane flight with Gwen, Joe and their inner circle of friends turned out to be a short-lived devastating end. With Gwen Shamblin Lara out of the picture, who will take over the reins of Remnant Fellowship?
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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Parenting to Death” | Mini Series E3
At Remnant Fellowship, Gwen Shamblin Lara taught members to be completely obedient to their husbands and church leaders, and that their children should also be completely obedient to them. It’s the last point that ultimately led to the death of Remnant Fellowship member, 8-year-old Josef Smith.
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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Slim for Him” | Mini Series E2
Before Gwen Shamblin Lara became the all-mighty and adored church leader, dietician, and healer behind the “Weigh Down Workshop,” she was just your average church-going wife married to her average church-going husband. But what happened once she met a new man and decided to throw the last 40 years of her marriage away?
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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Weigh, Pray and Obey”| Mini Series E1
Our second mini series covers dietician turned cult leader, Gwen Shamblin Lara, the woman who started the “Weigh Down Diet” and then created a hypnotic following at her self-made church, Remnant Fellowship. Remnant Fellowship faced accusations of being a cult that promoted child abuse and praying one’s way to being thin. But there is so much more to this bizarre story than just what meets the eye.
Jen Shah: "The Real Housewives of Podcasting" with Emily Hanks | Mini Series E5
This week, host of She Speaks Bravo podcast, Emily Hanks joins Jami to talk about our favorite problematic housewife Jen Shah. Emily and Jami also gush about all of their favorite Bravo shows they hate-watch including Summer House, Below Deck, Flipping Out and more!
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Jen Shah: “Shah-Shank Redemption” with Ryan Bailey | Mini Series E4
This week, host of So Bad It’s Good podcast, Ryan Bailey joins Jami to talk about Jen Shah, the self-described Queen Bee and MVP of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Ryan and Jami give updates on Jen Shah’s case, opinionated hot-takes, and reactions to her suddenly pleading guilty after shouting from the rooftops that she was innocent.
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The McStay Family: “Buried Truths” | MURDERISH
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In this episode, host Jami R
Jen Shah: “Let’s Make a Deal” | Mini Series E3
Jen and her first assistant, Stuart Smith, had previously teamed up to scam people by offering fake products and services through their telemarketing company. But now the two are facing over 30 years in prison. How is everything going to shake out at their upcoming trials? And who can they trust going forward?
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Jen Shah: “Federal Shah-ud” | Mini Series E2
Last week on the Dirty Money Moves mini series, we introduced you to Jen Shah …the self-described Queen Bee of Bravo’s hit reality show, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and her #1 assistant, Stuart Smith. But what were Jen and Stuart REALLY up to for the last decade? Their lucrative telemarketing business would eventually get a lot of attention, but not the kind that anyone wants!
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Jen Shah: “TelemarketSCHEME” | Mini Series E1
Our first mini series covers a well known reality TV star whose lavish lifestyle is prominently featured on Bravo’s hit tv series, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. If you’re a reality tv fan, you guessed it! We’re diving into Jen Shah, the self-described Queen Bee and MVP of the show. But, as the world saw playout on Season 2 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, no amount of fur coats a
Inside Baseball and Jami’s Thoughts | S1 E14
In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, Jami gives some background information on how the podcast came to be. Plus, she recaps some of her thoughts on the story now that we’ve had a chance to digest all of the information uncovered during Season One of the podcast.
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Introducing: MURDERISH
MURDERISH is a true crime podcast that delves into true stories of murder, disappearances and other creepy events. Also featured on the podcast are in-depth interviews with high-profile people in the true crime community. This podcast will take you on a deep-dive journey through interesting cases, beginning the date of the crime and ending with the courtroom verdict.
In this episode, host Jami Ri
Working for a phony heiress: Kevin Barry, formerly worked at Bellum | S1 E13
In this episode, Jami speaks with Kevin Barry who formerly worked for Bellum Entertainment. Like other former Bellum workers, Kevin began to notice red flags at the company and then he witnessed the “House of Cards” fall. Kevin provided great insight on what it was like to work for a TV production company that was being operated by Mary Carole McDonnell who constantly lied, failed to pay workers,
Psychology of a Con Artist: Dr. Shiloh & Dr. Scott, LA Not So Confidential | S1 E12
In this episode, Jami is joined by Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott, Forensic Psychologists and Hosts of LA Not So Confidential podcast. Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott broke down topics such as narcissism, psychopathy, machiavellianism and SO much more.
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Comparing Con Artists: Johnathan Walton, Host of Queen of the Con | S1 E11
In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, Jami is joined by Johnathan Walton, TV Producer and Host of Queen of the Con podcast. Like Dirty Money Moves, Queen of the Con is also a podcast about female con artists. Johnathan’s Season 1 con artist, Mair Smith, shares a lot of similarities with Mary Carole McDonnell …including the fact that both women falsely claimed to be an heiress. The parallels betwee
Prosecuting White Collar Crimes: Asst. United States Attorney, Catherine Ahn | S1 E10
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Inside Banc of California: When an heiress turned out to be a con artist | S1 E9
In this episode of Dirty Money Moves I speak with Gina Mazzolini, the researcher and writer for Dirty Money Moves. I walked Gina through what it was like working at the bank when the Mary Carole debacle happened. Gina and I also discuss Mary Carole’s childhood, professional career in the tv business, some of her shady associates, and how she managed to get her hands on close to $50 million through
Inside Bellum Entertainment: Interview with Brian Testa | S1 E8
In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, we speak to Brian Testa, who previously worked for Mary Carole McDonnell and Bellum Entertainment. Brian shares his experience of working at Bellum and the steps he’s taken to investigate Mary Carole since Bellum came crashing down.
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"Where is She?" | S1 E7
For the last six weeks we’ve tried to uncover the truth about who Mary Carole McDonnell is, how she was shaped during her childhood, and what factors contributed to the woman she became: a woman with a grandiose self-image; a master manipulator who constantly lied in order to get what she wanted; a woman with NO regard for who she hurt along the way. Mary Carole cared about one thing and one thing
"Let the Lawsuits Begin" | S1 E6
In the last episode, we went over all of the loans, merchant agreements, and investments that Mary Carole McDonnell was able to get her hands on, beginning in 2007 and stretching through 2018. So what recourse has there been for all the people and institutions Mary Carole has scammed into loaning her money or investing in her fake family trust? 2017 marked the first year of lawsuits against her. T
“Fast Cash and Dash” | S1 E5
Last episode was all about how Mary Carole McDonnell and her attorney Barry Rothman allegedly worked together to scam Banc of California out of nearly $15 million dollars. And, we found out that it apparently was not their first time pulling this hustle together. To top it all off, Barry unexpectedly died on the evening of March 9th after a dental procedure earlier that day. Many of us at the bank
“Lies and Homemade Pies” | S1 E4
In the previous episode of Dirty Money Moves, we learned about Barry Rothman, Mary Carole’s infamous entertainment lawyer and longtime associate. We also learned that he and Mary Carole had something in common…unbelievable financial troubles. Barry also operated a complex network of foreign bank accounts and Panamanian shell companies, which he allegedly used to hide certain assets. This was the p
