Industrial Cybersecurity Insider
Industrial Cybersecurity Insider offers a thorough look into the field of industrial cybersecurity for manufacturing and critical infrastructure. The podcast delves into key topics, including industry trends, policy changes, and groundbreaking innovations. Each episode features insights from key influencers, policy makers, and industry leaders. Subscribe and tune in weekly to stay in the know on everything important in the industrial cybersecurity world.
Episodes
Why Your Security Team Isn't Ready for a Real Cyberattack
Most manufacturers have an incident response plan. Few have tested it at 2 AM on a Sunday, with a skeleton crew and the people who know the equipment best nowhere to be found.Fresh from the ICS Cybersecurity Conference in Nashville, Craig Duckworth and Dino Busalachi compare notes on what keeps industrial organizations from being ready for a real attack. The risk today goes beyond ransomware. It's
Is Your Cybersecurity Plan Ready for Your Plant Floor?
You passed the audit. The tools are installed. None of it means your plant is secure.Most industrial cybersecurity plans are written far from the equipment they're meant to protect. The tools are purchased but never fully operationalized. Critical equipment stays unseen. And the plant teams who know it best are the last to see the data.In this compilation episode, Craig Duckworth, Dino Busalachi,
The Air Gap Myth: Why Your Plant Is More Exposed Than You Think
Dino sits down with Matt Pike of Rockwell Automation for an honest conversation about why industrial cybersecurity still stalls out inside so many plants, and it has very little to do with technology. Matt walks through his path from onsite IT support at a large automotive manufacturer into OT security, and explains why modern security principles keep colliding with legacy systems that were built
When Cyber Stops the Line, Safety Is on the Line
Safety starts with a goal. So should cybersecurity.Craig Duckworth sits down with Shankar Somasundaram, CEO of Asimily and former head of Symantec's IoT business, to explain why plant floor cybersecurity is a safety issue, not an IT expense. They cover why industrial cybersecurity programs stall after the tool is purchased, how to start with a goal instead of a solution, and why fixing the biggest
Why Industrial Cyber Risk Is Escalating (And How To Stop It)
This highlight episode pulls the sharpest moments from past conversations into one continuous argument about why industrial cyber risk keeps escalating and why so many programs stall before they start. Craig Duckworth and Dino Busalachi open with a number that should stop any executive team cold: one manufacturer lost roughly $500 million in valuation inside 60 hours, and that loss had nothing to
The “Don’t Touch It” Problem Hiding on Your Plant Floor
Most plants are running production on infrastructure nobody wants to touch. Somebody installed it years ago, that person is long gone, and the standing rule is to leave it alone so it keeps working.In this episode, Dino sits down with Jeff Slapp, cofounder, CTO and head of produduct development at SteelDome, to talk about what it would take to change that. Jeff has spent almost 30 years building a
The Blind Spot Between IT and OT Isn't Where or What You Think
Manufacturing cybersecurity can't succeed when IT acts as the enforcer and OT sees security as an obstacle to production. CyberHoot founder Craig Taylor joins Dino Busalachi to explain why punishment-based awareness programs create resistance, how positive reinforcement can turn employees into an active layer of defense, and why cyber preparedness belongs beside safety, quality, uptime, and availa
Why Detection Alone Can't Stop the Next OT Attack
Detection got fast, but remediation didn't. And that gap is exactly where attackers live.Manufacturers have spent the last decade building visibility into their plants: sensors, dashboards, alerts flying into every SOC. But knowing about a threat and fixing it are two different problems, and most industrial teams are still solving the second one at human speed. A ticket gets opened. A maintenance
From NSA Threat Intelligence to Factory-Floor Cybersecurity
Cybersecurity in an industrial environment isn't just an IT concern. It's a question of whether the business can keep operating, and whether people stay safe when systems fail.Craig Duckworth talks with Tim Hoffman, a former NSA director of threat intelligence whose career spans military intelligence, defense, healthcare, finance, critical infrastructure, and industrial operations. They discuss wh
Your Most Critical Network May Be Your Least Protected
The air gap you're counting on probably isn't there. Dino Busalacchi sits down with cybersecurity veteran and Tulane University Cybersecurity Professor Joshua Copeland, to talk about the realities of protecting industrial environments, where uptime, safety, and production come first. They dig into why legacy systems can't be secured like IT, how routine security tasks can disrupt physical operatio
Supply Chain Risk: Your Vendors Have Vendors You've Never Heard Of
Craig Duckworth sits down with Jowanza Joseph, CEO of Parakeet Risk, to unpack why third-party risk has become one of the most urgent challenges facing manufacturers and critical infrastructure operators. Jowanza spent 15 years in engineering roles at Adobe, Pluralsight, and MasterCard before founding Parakeet Risk to serve an industrial sector he saw as the most underserved when it comes to techn
Supply Chain Risk: What Manufacturers Need to Know
Two global dairy producers made headlines this week after breaches that started with third party vendors.Dino and Craig break down how it happened and why it keeps happening. They walk through the reality of remote access on the plant floor, from cellular modems to TeamViewer installs nobody remembers approving, and explain why a single sensor in a plant might show you 25 percent of your assets at
Plant Floor Cybersecurity Starts at the Top. Not the Server Room, with Robert Maxwell
For industrial leaders responsible for keeping plants productive, connected, and secure, cybersecurity cannot sit only with IT. Robert Maxwell joins Dino to address the leadership and operational gaps that leave OT environments exposed, especially when aging control systems, diverse automation platforms, and decentralized plant operations are part of the picture. They discuss what it takes to move
Trust But Verify: Why Every Air-Gap Claim Deserves Scrutiny
This week we're bringing back one of our most requested episodes, because the problem it covers hasn't gone away.Dino and Jim break down one of the most dangerous assumptions in industrial security: that OT environments are air-gapped and therefore safe. Through real examples from actual plant floors, they show exactly how that assumption falls apart, from cellular modems inside machine centers to
The Real Cost of Delaying OT Cybersecurity Investment
Craig and Jim revisit one of their most practical conversations: how to build a compelling business case for OT cybersecurity budget. They break down the IT/OT ownership gap that leaves manufacturers exposed, explain how to frame liability, physical risk, and financial impact in language executives actually care about, and walk through the options every organization faces.From doing nothing to run
Your Organization Says It's 'Green' on Manufacturing Security: Here's Why That's Dangerous
Who actually owns OT cybersecurity? And when something breaks, who's accountable?In this episode, Craig and Dino tackle a question most manufacturing organizations still haven't answered.They address why CISOs are often handed responsibility for OT security without the authority to act on it, and how plants can score "green" on a compliance dashboard while remaining blind to 80% of their actual as
It's Control System Integrity not just OT Cybersecurity
Many manufacturers don't realize that an investment in OT Cybersecurity also enhances Control System Integrity.In this rewind episode, Craig and Dino dig into why so many OT intrusion detection platforms get installed but never become truly operational.They address what gets lost when IT owns the tool while OT owns the equipment, and why the word “cybersecurity” itself can stall progress the momen
Is AI Becoming Your Plant Floor's Biggest Vulnerability?
Craig and Dino dig into the widening gap between IT and OT and why the plant floor keeps getting left behind. They break down what Dragos ' acquisition of Phosphorus signals for the future of IoT security in manufacturing, from cameras and label printers to X-ray inspection systems that ship with default passwords and almost never get patched. The conversation gets sharp on artificial intelligence
Is Your IIoT Strategy Creating More Security Risks?
Craig and Dino address one of the most overlooked problems in OT security: the IIoT devices your security tools don't automatically detect.Most OT intrusion detection platforms do a reasonable job of identifying core control-layer assets such as PLCs, drives, and motor control centers. The problem is everything else. Laptops plugged into the network, third-party devices brought in by contractors,
Five Federal Agencies. One Zero-Trust OT Briefing. Most Haven't Read it.
The joint CISA, FBI, Department of War, Department of Energy, and Department of State briefing on adapting Zero Trust to operational technology landed on April 29. Has OT leadership read it?In this episode, Craig and Dino address how the European Cyber Resilience Act is quietly forcing US plants into failed audits, why IT teams still see less than a third of OT assets, how EDR tools are taking dow
IT vs OT: The Internal Misalignment Costing Manufacturers Millions
Most manufacturing organizations still operate with a dangerous blind spot: IT and OT teams working in completely different dimensions with no shared visibility into plant floor cybersecurity.In this episode, Dino and Jim break down why 90% of manufacturers remain in the unaware-to-awareness phase when it comes to OT cybersecurity. They address what happens when IT tries to shoehorn enterprise sec
OT Security Isn't an IT Problem: What it Takes to Get it Right
Craig sits down with Wil Klusovsky, a 26-year cybersecurity veteran and CRO at viLogics, to break down why asset visibility and exposure management are the foundation of any solid OT security strategy.From the myth of the air-gapped shop floor to the real-world math behind quantifying cyber risk in dollars and cents, Will and Craig explore how manufacturers can move beyond fear-based selling, brid
OT Cybersecurity: Is the Purdue Model Still Useful?
Is the Purdue Model outdated, or simply misunderstood? In this episode, Dino sits down with Ken Kully (Rockwell Automation) for a candid, practitioner-level conversation about what the Purdue Model still gets right.They discuss where it falls short in modern environments, and why “IT/OT convergence” remains more of a people-and-process challenge than a technology problem. They break down the reali
Federal Agencies Can Enter Private Networks to Hunt Malware. Is Your Plant Prepared?
Dino and Jim break down a major shift in the cyber threat landscape: federal agencies obtaining legal authority to enter private networks to hunt down state-sponsored malware, and what that signals for industrial organizations. They discuss why critical infrastructure and supply chains are prime targets, how “soft targets” in OT and building automation get exploited, and why many companies still l
The Phishing Attack That Could Have Shut Down a Plant Floor
A real-world case study shows how a single phishing email led to credential and MFA compromise, creating an urgent question for any industrial organization: Did the attacker reach the OT environment? Dino and Jim walk through how OT visibility, secure remote access controls, and continuous monitoring enabled rapid validation of what happened. They were able to prove the breach did not impact contr
Your Most Valuable & Underutilized Cybersecurity Asset
In this episode, Dino and LuRae address why system integrators, OEMs, and ecosystem partners are often a manufacturer’s most underused cybersecurity resource. Dino explains why many IT leaders lack real visibility into the plant floor, what it takes to operationalize OT security beyond “checking the box,” and why asset inventory is the first practical step toward protecting control systems. The co
OT Patching vs IT Patching: What's Commonly Misunderstood
Most cybersecurity teams treat patching like a universal fix. In manufacturing, that assumption can take down a production line, trigger a safety event, or void the warranty on a $2 million piece of equipment.In this episode, Dino Busalachi and Craig Duckworth break down why patching in operational technology environments is a fundamentally different problem than patching enterprise IT — and why c
Who Actually Owns OT Cybersecurity? Not Who You Think
Dino and Craig break down what they are seeing in real industrial environments as companies begin the OT cybersecurity journey. They outline why most organizations are still in an “unaware to awareness” phase, what creates the “oh wow” moment after the first pilot, and why ownership and execution often falls to plant-floor teams and their OEM and integrator partners.The conversation covers the lim
You Think Your Plant Is Secure. Your Data Says Otherwise.
Craig Duckworth sits down with CIO and Chief Enterprise Architect Shellie D'Angelo to address why so many OT and IT modernization efforts stall out at the foundation.Shellie explains why data governance must come before “another tool,” how inconsistent data quality quietly sabotages reporting and risk decisions, and why leadership transparency is the fastest path to maturity. Craig and Shellie als
Two Major Cybersecurity Shifts the Industry Isn't Prepared For with Simon Chassar
Dino Busalachi sits down with Simon Chassar, former Chief Revenue Officer at Claroty and current OT cybersecurity advisor and investor, to explore the evolution and future of industrial cybersecurity. Simon shares insights from his decade-long journey in the space, discussing how OT asset visibility has become commoditized and why the industry is experiencing two major shifts: moving right toward
The Connected Plant Floor: What S4X26 Revealed
Craig and Dino recap their experience at S4X26, the leading global OT cybersecurity conference in Miami.They discuss the conference's "connected" theme and how AI is creating an inflection point in industrial cybersecurity, driving unprecedented connectivity between IT and OT environments.The hosts explore the challenges of the "silver tsunami" as experienced engineers retire, how AI-powered tools
The Hidden Cost of Siloed OT Security Tools
As we look back, Craig and Dino tackle a critical disconnect in industrial cybersecurity: the failure to share OT security tool data with the people who actually need it.They explore why IT teams often purchase and deploy OT IDS platforms without engaging plant floor teams, system integrators, and OEMs who are actively working in manufacturing environments.The conversation reveals that 85% of data
The Blind Spots Putting Manufacturers at Risk: WEF 2026 Global Cybersecurity Outlook
LuRae Lumpkin, Producer of Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, sits down with industrial cybersecurity expert Dino Busalachi to break down the 2026 World Economic Forum Global Cybersecurity Outlook Report and what it really means for manufacturers. While the report surveyed nearly a thousand CEOs, CIOs, and CISOs, Dino reveals a critical blind spot: industrial control systems and OT environments are
IT SOC vs OT SOC How & Why They’re Different
Craig and Dino tackle the critical differences between IT and OT Security Operations Centers, revealing why traditional IT-centric SOCs are failing to protect manufacturing environments.Drawing from real-world examples, including a global beverage company that discovered they were only monitoring one-third of their OT assets, the hosts expose the fundamental disconnect between IT security teams an
Your OT Cybersecurity Strategy Is Failing: Here's Why
Dino and Craig reunite to tackle the shifts occuring in industrial cybersecurity in 2026.They discuss how OT-focused IDS software companies are shifting away from managed services to partner with systems integrators who understand the plant floor.The conversation explores the challenges manufacturers face—from aging infrastructure spanning decades to flat layer-2 networks that give remote vendors
Former NSA now Founder & CTO Breaks Cybersecurity Down: Satellites to Manufacturing
Dino sits down with Dick Wilkinson, CTO and co-founder of Proof Labs, to explore the intersection of space technology and industrial cybersecurity.Dick shares his 20-year journey in the U.S. Army with the National Security Agency, transitioning from signals intelligence to becoming a CISO for critical infrastructure organizations, including New Mexico's Supreme Court and the Albuquerque water auth
The IT-OT Knowledge Gap Costing Organizations Millions
Dino sits down with Adeel Shaikh Muhammad, a Dubai-based cybersecurity expert and researcher with 16+ years in IT and OT security. They dive into why IT and OT teams still can't communicate effectively. The conversation reveals why most CISOs struggle to secure manufacturing environments. Adeel shares real-world insights from securing industrial systems across the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. Th
The Patching Gap Putting Industrial Operations at Risk: IT vs OT
Craig and Dino tackle one of industrial cybersecurity's most critical challenges in this Rewind episode: the massive gap between IT and OT patching strategies. IT organizations patch constantly—think Patch Tuesday. OT environments rarely patch at all, creating dangerous vulnerability gaps across connected networks. The hosts explore why this disconnect exists. Production floor downtime costs are a
Four Distinct Companies & One Critical Gap—The Ownership Crisis in OT Security
This compilation episode brings together the most critical insights from Industrial Cybersecurity Insider conversations about the fundamental challenges plaguing OT security implementation and management.Industry experts dissect why traditional IT security approaches fail catastrophically on the plant floor, revealing that the core issue isn't technology—it's ownership, collaboration, and understa
Your New Equipment Just Shipped With Security Risks & Here's Why Your OEM Won't Fix Them
In this episode, Dino and Craig tackle one of manufacturing's most pressing challenges: the OEM blockade. They explore why brand-new equipment often ships with hundreds of unpatched vulnerabilities, how the gap between IT and OT teams creates operational blind spots, and why manufacturers can't rely on traditional IT solutions to secure their plant floors.From the CrowdStrike incident that took do
The CISO's Impossible Task: Protecting Plant Floors They've Never Seen
Craig and Dino tackle one of the most pressing challenges in industrial cybersecurity: the disconnect between IT security teams and operational technology environments.They explore why traditional CISOs struggle to protect manufacturing plants despite their best intentions, revealing that most security executives get 30 minutes or less per quarter to present cyber risks to their boards—leaving lit
IT and OT Are Still Siloed - Here's Why That's Dangerous
In this rewind episode, Craig and Dino tackle a critical disconnect in industrial cybersecurity: the gap between IT teams deploying OT security tools and the plant floor teams who desperately need the data these tools collect.They reveal why 85% of data from industrial cybersecurity platforms is meant for OT personnel, yet rarely reaches them.The conversation exposes how organizations invest heavi
The Hidden Reason Most Manufacturing Cybersecurity Programs Fail
Dino sits down with cybersecurity expert Wil Klusovsky to discuss the massive gap between IT security practices and OT reality. With 26 years of experience, Wil shares his unconventional journey into operational technology and reveals why most security tools end up as shelfware on plant floors.They dive deep into the communication breakdown between CISOs and plant operations, the critical role of
Why OT Must Lead the Manufacturing Cybersecurity Conversation
Katie O'Brien shares her unconventional journey from music teacher to industrial cybersecurity expert, bringing over 25 years of IT experience into the OT world. In this conversation with Dino, Katie discusses the critical gaps in OT cybersecurity—from the lack of university programs teaching industrial security to the disconnect between IT and OT teams. They explore why system integrators and OEM
How OT Managed Services Are Revolutionizing Industrial Cybersecurity
Dino sits down with industrial automation and industrial cybersecurity expert Kevin Kumpf, fresh off the floor of Rockwell Automation Fair 2025. They discuss why OT managed services are finally becoming viable for manufacturing, the critical 80/20 split between people and technology challenges, and how the industry's "silver tsunami" of retiring talent is forcing a reckoning. Kevin shares insights
Former U.S. Secret Service Special Agent Shares Cyber Criminal Secrets
Former U.S. Secret Service Special Agent Richard LaTulip joins Craig Duckworth to reveal the hidden world of cyber criminal networks and infrastructure attacks. Drawing from his undercover work infiltrating dark web forums and catching some of the world's most sophisticated threat actors, Richard breaks down why traditional security approaches fail, how ransomware attacks actually cost organizatio
Perception vs. Reality: Why Your Plant Floor Might Not Be as Secure as You Think
In this eye-opening conversation, Dino and Craig address a critical issue facing manufacturing organizations today: the dangerous gap between perceived and actual cybersecurity preparedness in operational technology (OT) environments.They discuss why many organizations "don't know what they don't know" when it comes to securing industrial control systems, the myth of isolated manufacturing equipme
The Silver Tsunami: Manufacturing's Talent and Knowledge Retirement Crisis
In this milestone 100th episode, Craig and Dino tackle the critical intersection of workforce retirement and industrial cybersecurity knowledge in manufacturing.They explore how 82% of manufacturing workforce exits are due to retirement, creating a dangerous knowledge vacuum as decades of plant expertise walk out the door. The conversation reveals why traditional IT security tools consistently mis
The Nation-State Attacks Hiding in Your OT Network
In this episode of the Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, Craig Duckworth sits down with Matthew Carr, co-founder of Atumcell and OT penetration testing expert with fifteen years of experience securing operational technology systems. Matthew shares his journey from vulnerability research to specializing in cyber-physical security, recounting the pivotal moment when his exploit code stopped a produc
When IT Security Meets OT Reality: Why One Size Doesn't Fit All
What happens when IT cybersecurity practices collide with OT operational realities? In this episode, Jim and Dino expose the costly mistakes organizations make when applying IT security playbooks to manufacturing environments.Discover why zero trust architectures can halt production, how shadow IT thrives on every plant floor, and why remote access policies designed for corporate networks fail in
Dispelling IT/OT Convergence Challenges and Myths
In this episode, Craig and Dino tackle IT/OT convergence, operational technology security, and manufacturing cybersecurity challenges head-on. They challenge the notion of OT being a "shadow IT group" and explore the fundamental differences between IT and OT operations in industrial environments. The discussion emphasizes that OT focuses on safety and physical outcomes, while IT prioritizes data s
What Actually Works in OT Vulnerability Management with Dan Cartmill, TXOne Networks
In this episode of the Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, host Dino sits down with Dan Cartmill, Sr. Global Product Marketing Director for TXOne Networks, to discuss the often misunderstood world of OT vulnerability management. Dan brings a unique perspective, having started as a practitioner 17 years ago, before transitioning to the vendor side. The conversation explores why simply creating a list
Industrial Cybersecurity: The Gap Between Investment and Cyber Event Prevention
In this episode, Craig and Dino address why manufacturers still suffer incidents after spending millions on OT security tools. They discuss how to convert those investments into measurable risk reduction. You'll learn why buying tools isn't a strategy. Get insights into how to validate asset visibility on the floor (not just the network map), practical ways to reduce alert fatigue and assign owner
Hidden Cybersecurity Vulnerabilities in Today’s Data Centers
In this episode, Scott Cargill, Partner of BW Design Group, joins Craig and Dino. Together they dissect the critical vulnerability gap in data center operational technology infrastructure. While most data centers implement robust IT security protocols, their building management systems controlling cooling, power distribution, and environmental controls remain significantly under-protected. Cargill
Building OT Cybersecurity That Works in the Real World
Industrial environments are complex. Aging systems, distributed plants, and a crowded vendor landscape make “buy another tool” a tempting but often costly reflex. In this episode, Dino Busalachi talks with Danielle “DJ” Jablanski, about moving from paper programs to measurable progress in OT security. They address why competence and capacity must come before capabilities, how to right-size your te
Mitsubishi’s Billion-Dollar Bet on OT Cybersecurity with Nozomi Acquisition
Hosts Craig and Dino discuss Mitsubishi's billion-dollar acquisition of Nozomi Networks and its implications for operational technology cybersecurity. They address how this major deal affects the industrial security market.The conversation covers IT/OT convergence challenges, managed services, vendor partnerships, and AI in cybersecurity decision-making. Craig and Dino share practical insights for
Responsibility Without Authority: The CISO's Industrial Cybersecurity Dilemma
In this episode, Craig and Dino address one of the most pressing challenges in industrial cybersecurity: the gap between responsibility and authority for CISOs and their ability to protect manufacturing and critical infrastructure plant floors. While executives are tasked with ensuring resilience and reporting to the board, they often hit resistance at the plant floor where production uptime and s
The Critical Role of Local Knowledge in Industrial Cybersecurity
In this essential rewind episode, Dino Busalachi and Craig Duckworth address a fundamental challenge facing practitioners in the field: effectively securing operational technology (OT) environments through local expertise and proper data collection.The Power of Local PartnershipDino emphasizes a crucial principle that often gets overlooked in cybersecurity implementations: "The only way you can ac
FBI Alerts, OT Vulnerabilities, and What Comes Next
In this episode, Craig and Dino break down the FBI’s latest cybersecurity advisory and what it means for industrial organizations. From Cisco hardware vulnerabilities on the plant floor to the widening gap between IT and OT security teams, they address the critical blind spots that attackers often exploit. They discuss why manufacturing has become ransomware’s “cash register,” the importance of co
AI, Phishing, and the Future of Industrial Cyber Defense
In this week's rewind episode, Dino Busalachi is joined by Gary Kneeland from Claroty. With over nine years of experience at Claroty, Gary discusses the evolution of OT security, the convergence of IT and OT, and the growing importance of cybersecurity in protecting critical infrastructure. The conversation touches on how regulatory changes, ransomware threats, and AI advancements are shaping the
Partnership in Action: When Legacy Systems Meet Modern Cybersecurity Threats
In this hard-hitting episode of Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, host Dino Busalachi sits down with two battle-tested experts: Debbie Lay from TXOne Networks and Patrick Gillespie from GuidePoint Security. Together, they pull back the curtain on the messy, complex world of operational technology (OT) cybersecurity, where million-dollar cybersecurity losses happen regularly.This isn't your ty
From Shelfware to Security: Operationalizing OT Industrial Cybersecurity Tools
Many manufacturing leaders believe they’re seeing 80–85% of their OT environment industrial assets. But in this episode, Dino and Craig reveal the reality that most have visibility into only 30–35% of their industrial control system assets, leaving the hidden 70% vulnerable. In this hard-hitting episode, they dismantle the false sense of OT security. They explore why million-dollar cybersecurity t
When the Plant Can't Stop: Securing Systems That Never Sleep
In this episode of Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, Craig Duckworth sits down with Ian Bramson, VP of Global Industrial Cybersecurity at Black & Veatch, to explore what it really takes to secure complex industrial systems. Whether you're retrofitting legacy brownfield environments or designing cybersecurity into greenfield builds, Ian unpacks the foundational questions every organization
The Lawyer's View: Strategic Lessons in Cybersecurity and Incident Response
Craig Duckworth sits down with seasoned attorney and cyber crisis strategist Josh Cook, founder of Left of Boom Consulting. Together, they explore the pivotal role of proactive preparation in cybersecurity especially for mid-market and industrial organizations navigating today’s hyper-connected, AI-augmented threat landscape. Josh shares hard-earned insights from decades of incident response leade
Plant-Level Cyber Risk: Who’s Actually Responsible?
In this episode, Dino Busalachi and Craig Duckworth tackle one of the most overlooked threats in cybersecurity: the number of industrial vendors and system integrators in manufacturing environments. The conversation addresses the relationship and communication gap between IT and the teams responsible for designing and supporting industrial control systems. They emphasize the need for improved gove
The C-Suite's Role in Industrial Cybersecurity
In this episode, Craig Duckworth and Dino Busalachi discuss the critical role of the C-suite in fortifying manufacturing environments against cyber threats. They discuss the unique challenges that manufacturing organizations face. Their conversation reinforces the importance of executive teams understanding and actively engaging in industrial OT cybersecurity strategies. With compelling arguments
Breaking Down the IT-OT Wall: Why IT Cybersecurity Tools Fail on the Plant Floor
In this episode, Dino Busalachi and Craig Duckworth tackle a critical disconnect plaguing industrial organizations: the disconnect in understanding and communication between IT and OT regarding industrial cybersecurity.While some IT departments are investing in OT cybersecurity platforms, 85% of the data these tools collect is designed for OT teams to act upon. Unfortunately, plant floor personnel
The System Integrator’s Role in Supporting OT Security
In this episode, Craig Duckworth and Dino Busalachi discuss the critical but often overlooked or misunderstood role of system integrators (SIs) in industrial cybersecurity.Key Issues Identified:Organizations typically work with multiple specialized integrators across different facilities and systemsSome SIs lack cybersecurity expertise, focusing primarily on equipment functionalityEquipment can re
When IT Cyber Events Bring Down the Plant Floor
Craig and Dino break down how cyberattacks that start in traditional IT systems can shut down entire manufacturing production lines, leading to massive financial losses. Using real-world examples like UNFI's $500 million drop in market value in 60 hours, they explain how overlooked connections between IT and the OT plant floor are often the weakest links. You’ll hear why simply installing firewall
When CISOs Inherit the Plant Floor: What Happens Next?
What happens when the CISO inherits responsibility for the security of the plant floor?Dino and Craig discuss a growing trend: CISOs are being expected to oversee cybersecurity for industrial plant floors. Unfortunately, they don't have the background to effectively take on this responsibility.A perpetuating trend exists where cybersecurity leaders are expected to protect factories and industrial
Reflections from the Front Lines of Industrial Cyber Failures
In this rewind episode, cybersecurity leaders revisit some of the hardest-hitting truths about protecting critical infrastructure in an increasingly converged IT/OT world. This conversation explores the disconnect between IT theory and OT reality, from the real-world fallout of the CrowdStrike disruption to the challenges of virtual patching, insider threats, and the cloud’s role on the plant floo
What Every CISO Gets Wrong About OT Security
In this episode, Dino and Craig tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in industrial cybersecurity: IT/OT convergence. But is it truly convergence or more of a collision? Drawing from real-world experiences, they challenge the idea that OT is a “shadow IT group” and argue that operational technology deserves distinct governance, funding, and strategic influence. From secure-by-design to syste
OT Security in Hindsight: Visibility, Authority, and the Executive Disconnect
In this special rewind edition of Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, we revisit some of the most powerful insights shared on how to elevate OT cybersecurity across complex, distributed environments. From budget allocation strategies to disaster recovery frameworks and the nuances of executive engagement, this episode distills frontline lessons into a compact, high-impact listen. Whether you're navi
Bridging the IT-OT Divide with AI-Powered Insight
Dino and Craig tackle one of the most misunderstood challenges in cybersecurity for industrial environments. The persistent disconnect between IT-led cybersecurity tools and operational technology realities.They explore the concept of "shadow OT," as well as the limits of traditional IDS deployments.They discuss why visibility is key to protecting critical systems. Vulnerability scanning alone isn
Visibility Revisited: Trends Shaping the Future of OT Cybersecurity
In this special rewind episode we highlight outside influences shaping control system integrity, the impact of AI, emerging technologies, and the dynamics of building a career in OT cybersecurity.Drawing from frontline experiences and industry events like the S4 Conference, the discussion explores the growing organizational shift toward dedicated OT cybersecurity roles.We address the critical need
Stuxnet to Colonial Pipeline What Have We Learned & What’s on the Horizon?
Dino sits down with Mike Holcomb, Fellow and Director of ICS/OT Cybersecurity at Fluor, to explore the critical, and often overlooked challenges in securing operational technology. From his early fascination with hacking culture to leading OT security for one of the world’s largest engineering firms, Mike shares personal insights and lessons learned. The conversation covers the delayed cybersecuri
Bridging IT/OT & Securing ICS: Kevin Kumpf, Chief OT / ICS Security Strategist, Cyolo
Dino welcomes Kevin Kumpf, Chief OT/ICS Security Strategist at Cyolo to this episode. They discuss the growing challenges and evolving strategies around cybersecurity in industrial environments. Kevin shares a seasoned perspective on bridging the gap between IT and OT, busting myths about Zero Trust certifications, and the dangers of underutilized security tools - or "shelfware." From real-world e
Cyber Threats, China, and the Global Wake-Up Call
Dino and Craig address the recent acknowledgment by China of their role in U.S. infrastructure hacks. They explore the urgent cybersecurity challenges facing industrial environments. With rising geopolitical tensions, tariffs, the push to bring more manufacturing back to the U.S. and increasing attacks on critical infrastructure, the stakes have never been higher. From end-of-life PLCs still runni
Zero Trust in OT: A Look Back at Lessons Across IT and OT
In this special rewind episode, Dino Busalachi and Jim Cook address the messy but critical reality of implementing Zero Trust in operational technology (OT) environments. Drawing from years of hands-on experience, they break down why traditional IT frameworks often fail on the plant floor, especially when facing flat OT networks, legacy assets, and limited change windows. They introduce a "bucket
Cybersecurity by Design: Building OT Security Into Your Manufacturing Plant Floor
In this episode, Dino and Craig address the practicalities of building cyber resilience directly into manufacturing environments - rather than after the fact. Using real-world analogies and field-tested insights, they break down why treating OT security like physical safety is crucial. They challenge the outdated mindset of retrofitting cybersecurity protection after deployment of industrial plant
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