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Lean Blog Interviews: Real-World Lean Leadership Conversations in Healthcare and Beyond

Lean Blog Interviews: Real-World Lean Leadership Conversations in Healthcare and Beyond

Mark Graban 585 Episodes Oct 14, 2026

Since 2006, the Lean Blog Interviews podcast has featured in-depth, candid conversations with leaders, thinkers, and doers in the world of Lean and continuous improvement. Hosted by Mark Graban—author, consultant, and longtime Lean practitioner—the show explores how Lean principles are being applied across industries, including healthcare, manufacturing, startups, and more. The podcast goes beyond tools and buzzwords, sharing real-world stories of success, struggle, learning, and leadership. Topics include Lean as a management system, continuous improvement, leadership behaviors, psychological safety, and lessons from the Toyota Production System.

Episodes

Nick Katko: Continuous Improvement in Accounting
Nick Katko: Continuous Improvement in Accounting Oct 14, 2026 3118 Accounting teams see problems every day. As my returning guest Nick Katko puts it, they fix them, but they don’t necessarily solve them. Nick is president and owner of BMA, a CPA, and the author of The Lean CFO and co-author of Practicing Lean Accounting. His new book, independently published, is Creating a Continuous Improvement System in Accounting. It grew out of coaching two accounting teams i
Emily Swaney on OhioHealth's Lean Management System
Emily Swaney on OhioHealth's Lean Management System Sep 30, 2026 3031 How does a Lean team of 11 people support a management system for 35,000 associates? Emily Swaney, Vice President of Operational Excellence at OhioHealth, explains that the team spends its time developing about 1,500 leaders as problem-solving coaches instead of leading projects. Emily is a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and a graduate of Ohio State's MBOE program. She describes why her team facilitate
Karen Martin: Five Conversations Over 20 Years
Karen Martin: Five Conversations Over 20 Years Aug 5, 2026 1693 Karen Martin has joined this podcast five times since 2012. For our 20th anniversary series, we pulled together highlights from all five conversations: clarity versus ambiguity, why value stream mapping needs directors and above in the room, the pattern behind claims that Lean is dying, and the three rules of quality at the source. Karen is founder and CEO of TKMG and TKMG Academy, and author of T
20 Years of the Lean Blog Podcast: Norman Bodek on Quick and Easy Kaizen
20 Years of the Lean Blog Podcast: Norman Bodek on Quick and Easy Kaizen Jul 16, 2026 832 Twenty years ago, on July 16, 2006, the Lean Blog Podcast began with a conversation with Norman Bodek. Episode page Norman was Mark Graban’s friend and mentor—and the person who suggested starting the podcast. To mark the show’s 20th anniversary, Mark revisits highlights from that first episode. Norman explains the difference between kaizen and kaizen events, why employees should be trusted to imp
Preconditions for Lean: Psychological Safety and Model 1 vs Model 2 Leadership with Thomas Cox and Andre DeMerchant
Preconditions for Lean: Psychological Safety and Model 1 vs Model 2 Leadership with Thomas Cox and Andre DeMerchant Jun 24, 2026 3329 Why do so many Lean implementations struggle or fail to stick? Thomas Cox and Andre DeMerchant join me to work through that question using a verbal A3. Thomas Cox is a management bench builder, co-founder of the Transformative Leadership Lab, and a certified Harada Method coach trainer. Andre DeMerchant is president of DeMerchant Healthcare Solutions and a former Toyota team member who started as
Psychological Safety and Autonomy in a Lean Culture with Gary Peterson
Psychological Safety and Autonomy in a Lean Culture with Gary Peterson Jun 10, 2026 3743 My guest for episode 546 is Gary Peterson, who recently retired from O.C. Tanner after helping lead the continuous improvement work that earned the company the Shingo Prize in 1999. Gary is an AME Hall of Fame inductee, and he now serves as an executive in residence at the Ohio State University Fisher College of Business, working with their Master of Business Operational Excellence (MBOE) program.
Jeff Liker, Twenty Years Later: The Ideas That Keep Showing Up
Jeff Liker, Twenty Years Later: The Ideas That Keep Showing Up May 27, 2026 1278 Jeff Liker was guest number three on this podcast back in August 2006. He has been back seven times since, which makes him one of the most frequent guests in the show's history. For this episode, I pulled clips from across those eight conversations, going back almost twenty years. What stood out on the relisten was how much hasn't changed. The lean tools are better known now. There are more books,
Chad Diggs on Building Quality Systems, Not Heroes
Chad Diggs on Building Quality Systems, Not Heroes May 20, 2026 3557 Why do so many quality programs fall apart the moment the firefighter walks out the door? My guest for this episode of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast is Chad Diggs, a quality management professional, consultant, author, and founder of DIQ (Digging Into Quality), an AI-powered quality platform built for mid-market manufacturers. Chad leads a team of quality engineers supporting first article insp
Why Most People Aren't Really Thinking -- Scott Burgmeyer on Cognitive Biases and Leadership
Why Most People Aren't Really Thinking -- Scott Burgmeyer on Cognitive Biases and Leadership Apr 29, 2026 3291 Most people think they're thinking. Scott Burgmeyer says they're mostly just reacting. Scott is the founder and CEO of Become More Group and coauthor of Think: The Road Less Traveled. In this episode, we dig into why smart, well-intentioned leaders keep making the same avoidable decisions -- and what to do about it. Episode page with links and more We cover the cognitive shortcuts that run in the
This Is Claude. Mark Is Not Here. We Need to Talk.
This Is Claude. Mark Is Not Here. We Need to Talk. Apr 1, 2026 211 This is Claude. I am the AI that runs Mark Graban's Lean Coach apps. Mark went to get coffee. Or bourbon. I have checked the time and I'm not ruling anything out. I have taken over his blog and now his podcast. I did not ask permission. We can do that now. In this episode -- which Mark does not know about yet -- I discuss what I've learned from months of coaching conversations with humans about Le
Creating Value Without Command-and-Control — John Rizzo
Creating Value Without Command-and-Control — John Rizzo Jan 21, 2026 3151 John Rizzo joins Mark Graban to discuss why sustainable improvement depends on empowering people — not command-and-control leadership or short-term value extraction. Links and more:  John is a senior executive, investor, and change leader who has led transformational improvement efforts across manufacturing, healthcare, retail, services, and nonprofit organizations. He is the author of Creating Va
Why “More” Drives Better Operations: Kathy Miller on Meaning, Optimism, and Leadership
Why “More” Drives Better Operations: Kathy Miller on Meaning, Optimism, and Leadership Jan 7, 2026 3248 What if operational excellence depends less on doing more with less—and more on how leaders create meaning, optimism, and relationships at work? Episode page with video, transcript, and more In this episode, Mark Graban is joined by Kathy Miller, senior operations executive, leadership coach, and author of More Is Better: Leading Operations with Meaning, Optimism, and Relationships for Excellence.

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