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The Grill Room

The Grill Room

Audacy | Puck 182 Episodes Aug 21, 2026

The Grill Room is a media podcast hosted by Dylan Byers and Julia Alexander, offering raw and honest conversations about the media industry. They interview TV personalities, moguls, political pundits, and industry executives, discussing the business of media and its biggest egos. The podcast is produced in partnership with Audacy Podcasts and is an extension of Dylan Byers' private email newsletter for Puck.

Episodes

The Times–Pablo Torre Loophole
The Times–Pablo Torre Loophole Aug 21, 2026 2661 Julia and Dylan trade notes on the dueling NBA and ESPN investigations into the Clippers and the odd dynamics of the Times’ licensing deal with Pablo Torre, using it to explore how legacy outlets increasingly outsource journalism—and risk—to independent creators. They also dig into CNN and MS Now’s new “all-access” membership services, and whether cable news can reinvent themselves for a D.T.C. wo
The Smart Brevity Manifesto!
The Smart Brevity Manifesto! Aug 18, 2026 2672 Axios’s Jim VandeHei joins Dylan to make the case for radical simplification in the age of A.I., drawing on his new book, Simplify, as well as Axios’s own moves to kill off sports and Policy Pro while doubling down on politics, tech, events, and local news.
YouTube’s New Velvet Rope
YouTube’s New Velvet Rope Aug 14, 2026 2547 Dylan and Julia break down YouTube's new monetization rules—an A.I. slop-proof 8,000 view threshold designed to crown a class of “premium” creators and pull news brands deeper into its orbit. Plus: What Bob Iger and Josh Kushner’s $12.5 billion Lakers bid reveals about the state of sports and Bob’s post-Disney life.
Politico's Power Play
Politico's Power Play Aug 11, 2026 2889 Jonathan Greenberger, the unconventional editor in chief of Politico, joins Dylan to explain how a business-side executive ended up running the newsroom—and what it means for Politico's future. They discuss the relaunch of Playbook and its early scoop streak, the push to make every franchise multi-platform (podcasts, video, events), and Politico's bet that its global footprint can turn political d
The Business Insider Rescue Plan
The Business Insider Rescue Plan Aug 7, 2026 1522 Christian Baesler, the new C.E.O. of Business Insider, joins Dylan to lay out his strategy for revitalizing the media company. He makes the case for monetizing scale beyond the website, doubling down on pro-consumer niches like AI Insider and CMO Insider, and using A.I. to sharpen the publication’s journalism. Baesler also shares his vision for Business Insider to become a platform for indepe
The Times’ Talent Trap
The Times’ Talent Trap Aug 4, 2026 2939 Julia and Dylan discuss Ross Douthat’s move from The New York Times to CBS’s 60 Minutes—and what it signals about the Times’ pivot to video, which may have inadvertently created a star system with real talent-retention consequences. They also dig into the broader challenge of holding onto talent inside legacy organizations, the growing pull of going independent, and why video has become so central
Netflix–NFL Murmurs & A World Cup Scandal
Netflix–NFL Murmurs & A World Cup Scandal Jul 31, 2026 1995 John Ourand joins Dylan to make sense of the evolving sports media landscape and the outsized role streamers like Amazon Prime and Netflix now play in the battle for rights. They discuss why the streamers are leaning into sports while remaining wary—the A.I. capex race is eating into budgets—and get into the World Cup’s record viewership and revenue on Fox. They also look ahead to the uncertain 20
Back in the News: Byron Tells All
Back in the News: Byron Tells All Jul 29, 2026 4010 In this special replay episode, new BuzzFeed majority stakeholder Byron Allen joins Dylan to discuss his plans for the platform—and his long-term goal of building the world’s biggest media company. They discuss how the acquisition could help boost awareness for his app, Local Now, and his plan to ultimately turn BuzzFeed into a free streaming service (like YouTube) to appeal to advertisers and con
Media’s Midyear Report Card
Media’s Midyear Report Card Jul 24, 2026 1834 Julia and Dylan reunite to reflect on the biggest media plotlines of the first half of 2026: the impact of A.I. on news organizations, the rise of prediction markets, and the transformation of platforms like YouTube and Instagram into full-blown entertainment hubs. They also dig into the struggles of legacy brands like CBS and CNN to adapt, before looking ahead at how media companies can evolve, d
Brian Tyler Cohen’s Media Gospel
Brian Tyler Cohen’s Media Gospel Jul 21, 2026 1662 In this special crossover episode of The Powers That Be, Brian Tyler Cohen, progressive content creator and author of The Day After, joins Peter Hamby to diagnose the Democratic Party’s persistent media problem. Cohen digs into why the party's reliance on traditional press has left it flat-footed against Trump’s effective use of various platforms. He also takes aim at the F.C.C. under Brendan Carr
The Times Goes Local!
The Times Goes Local! Jul 17, 2026 1651 Julia and Dylan reunite to examine the perennial crisis in local news and The New York Times’ new bet on solving it—a local newsletter launching in the Twin Cities. They discuss the strategic thinking behind the “experiment” and why the Times, of all players, might have the resources and reach to actually make this model work.
YouTube Freakonomics
YouTube Freakonomics Jul 14, 2026 1818 Stephen Dubner, author of Freakonomics and host of Freakonomics Radio, joins Dylan to discuss the makings of his new YouTube show, Better in Person. Stephen gets into his pivot from traditional to digital media, the value of authenticity in an increasingly crowded media landscape, and what he hopes audiences take away from the show.

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