Patterns Podcast
Welcome to the Patterns Podcast. Each episode we sit down with the leaders and builders defining how modern digital products come to life. From systems and tools to culture and decision making, we dig into what’s driving real impact today and shaping the future of how teams build.
Episodes
Building in the Age of Agents with Alex Wilson, Engineering Leader at T. Rowe Price.
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Software teams are operating in an environment where the job description changes every two months. As agentic AI moves from novelty to real engineering capability, the assumptions that have held enterprise software together — long SaaS contracts, stable teams, predictable agile rhythms — are starting to bend. In this episode of Patterns, Chris Strahl talks w
Building Trust: Designing Product Ecosystems in the Age of AI
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Digital products no longer exist as standalone apps. They live inside complex ecosystems of interfaces, AI systems, legacy infrastructure, and workflows that all have to work together. In this episode of Patterns, Chris Strahl talks with product design leader Andi Rusu about what it takes to design reliable digital experiences in environments where multiple
Inside the Alaska–Hawaiian Merger: Shipping a Multi-Brand Experience in 10 Months
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.The Alaska Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines merger came with physical and regulatory deadlines that dictated an inflexible 10-month delivery window for digital and design work. With the timeline tied to real-world change, combined design, product, and engineering teams had to build and ship alongside a transformation that was already in motion.Chris Strahl tal
Designing the Learning Loop: Context, AI, and Compound Systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In the first episode of Patterns, Chris Strahl sits down with Dave Brown, design leader at Qualtrics, to explore what modern systems thinking looks like in an AI-driven product landscape. Moving beyond traditional notions of software design, the conversation reframes product creation as a shift from a single golden path toward a world where every experience
DSP 139. Why the Future of Digital Production Starts With Code, Not a Canvas
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.As AI compresses the distance between idea and execution, the abstractions that once made design tools necessary are becoming points of friction. In this conversation, Knapsack leaders Chris Strahl, Evan Lovely, and Robin Cannon make the case that the future of digital production starts in the medium products actually ship in, code. They unpack why design sy
DSP 138. Scaling Inclusive Design: An Accessibility Conversation with Anna Thielke
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.How do teams turn accessibility from individual effort into system wide practice? Chris talks with Anna Thielke, founder and CEO of Mantis and Company, to find out. They explore why representation on system teams leads to better standards, how designing for the edges strengthens products for everyone, and what it takes for accessibility work to spread across
DSP 137. Why You Shouldn’t Aim for Perfect: Building Design Systems That Deliver Business Value with Noelle Lansford
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.If you’ve ever struggled to balance perfection with business reality, this episode is for you. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl talks with Noelle Lansford, founder of Shep, about why chasing the “perfect system” often breaks more than it fixes. Drawing on her experience across startups and Fortune 5 companies, Noelle argues that de
DSP 136. Are Design Systems Still for People? A Conversation with Elyse Holladay
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode, Chris Strahl talks with Elyse Holladay—staff design engineer at Color Health and host of On Theme—about the evolution of design systems and how AI is reshaping the way we think about abstraction, collaboration, and contribution. They explore what it means to maintain relevance in a landscape where LLMs increasingly influence product developm
DSP 135. The Infrastructure Behind Digital Production: A Conversation with Steve Dodier-Lazaro
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Design systems aren’t just a UI toolkit—they’re the backbone of digital product creation and management. In this episode, engineer and researcher Steve Dodier-Lazaro joins Chris Strahl to unpack why treating design systems like standalone products is holding teams back. They explore what it really takes to scale product design and development in enterprise e
DSP 134 Modernizing a Legend: Catherine Dubut Builds the Future at Ford Pro
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.What does it take to transform 121 years of automotive legacy into a modern digital ecosystem? Catherine Dubut, Director of Global UX Strategy at Ford Pro, joins Chris Strahl to share how her team is reengineering the organization’s fragmented product landscape into a scalable, unified digital assembly line.With over 80 legacy sites, 20+ global markets, and
DSP 133. Garth Braithwaite on Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum at Adobe
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.The design token nerds are taking over the pod! In this episode, guest host Christopher Bloom sits down with Garth Braithwaite, Lead Senior Staff Design Engineer at Adobe, for a deep dive into the inner workings of Spectrum’s design tokens. Garth shares how Adobe manages the complexity of scaling a multi-platform design system, and how thoughtful collaborati
DSP 132. The Evolution of Digital Production: TJ Pitre Talks Flash, Figma, and the Future of Dynamic Design
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode, TJ Pitre, founder of South Left, joins the podcast to trace the real evolution of digital production — from the early days of Flash and Fireworks to today's dynamic, system-driven workflows. TJ shares his journey bridging design and development, reflects on the rise of modern tools like Figma, and explores the shift toward more connecte
DSP 131. DSP Rewind | Rick Rodriguez on Building an Adaptable and Scalable Design system
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.This week, we're digging into the Design Systems Podcast archives. Guest host Richard Banfield, VP of Design Leadership at Knapsack, revisits a 2020 conversation between host Chris Strahl and Rick Rodriguez, then Head of Design Systems at Walmart Labs.Rick shares how his team developed Living Design, Walmart’s internal design system, to support both cus
DSP 130. Jon Warden on How GSK Uses Design Systems to Balance Scale, Flexibility, and Innovation
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, guest host Andrew Rohman sits down with Jon Warden to explore how GSK leverages design systems to drive consistency, innovation, and efficiency across a highly complex global organization. With multiple brands, multi-product ecosystems, and diverse regional needs, GSK must balance scale and flexibility while emb
DSP 129. Mashup | The Future of AI and Digital Production
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, guest host Richard Banfield takes us on a journey through the intersection of artificial intelligence and design systems. We revisit some of the most compelling discussions featuring experts David Calleja, Nick Hahn, Ranjeet Tayi, and Kate Moran. Together, they unravel how AI is transforming the way digital prod
DSP 128. Rewind | Emily Campbell: Design and code convergence
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.in this episode Knapsack's VP of Design Leadership, Richard Banfield takes a look back at a conversation between Chris Strahl and Emily Campbell. They discuss the convergence of design and code, and what that actually looks like. They walk through what a designer role looks like in a modern digital product team and Emily explains her idea that design an
DSP 127. Building a Unified Design System for Instacart’s Multi-Product Ecosystem: Lessons for Success from Miranda Bouck
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Increasingly, design systems need to support multi-product ecosystems with a diverse array of consumers and stakeholders. This week, Chris Strahl sits down with Miranda Bouck from Instacart to explore the intricacies of managing a multi-faceted design system. Miranda delves into the challenges and strategies of balancing the diverse needs of consumer apps, i
DSP 126. Scaling Avalara's Design System to Support a Growth-By-Acquisition Strategy
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Many enterprise organizations face the challenge of scaling their design systems as the scope of product support expands through adoption and acquisition.In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, host Chris Strahl speaks with Will Rodenbough, Senior UX Designer at Avalara, about the critical role of design systems in enabling scalability and supporting
DSP 125. Inside H-E-B’s Digital Transformation: Adriana Morales on Design Systems That Empower Teams
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In our first episode of 2025, Chris Strahl sits down with Adriana Morales, Design Principal at H-E-B, to explore the evolution, challenges, and triumphs of design systems in organizations at different stages of maturity. Adriana shares her journey from IBM to H-E-B, highlighting how each company’s unique financial priorities and cultural dynamics shape the m
DSP 124. From Ideas to Impact: Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely on Five Years of Design Systems Innovation
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this special episode of the Design Systems Podcast, co-founders Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely celebrate five years of the podcast and reflect on their journey from agency work to building Knapsack. They discuss the evolution of design systems, lessons learned from working with global enterprise clients, and the importance of composability, constraints, and
DSP 123. Adoption, Efficiency, and Value: insights from KickstartDS’s Jonas Ulrich and Daniel Ley
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode, Chris talks with Daniel Ley and Jonas Ulrich from KickstartDS, a framework designed to simplify design system creation and drive meaningful adoption. They dive deep into what adoption really means, moving beyond metrics like component coverage to focus on efficiency, team morale, and an iterative approach. Drawing on real-world examples like
DSP 122. Creating Cohesion from Chaos: The Role of Language and System Design with Ben Callahan
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Language shapes the way we think and structure the world we build. On this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl sits down with Ben Callahan, co-founder of Sparkbox, to explore the critical role of language and communication in team dynamics, problem-solving, and system structures. Ben shares insights on how linguistic choices shape product cre
DSP 121. The Intersection of Urban Planning and Design Systems: Insights from Andii Hei
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Explore the unique parallels between urban planning and design systems with Andii Hei. Discover how cities and digital landscapes share principles of structure, adaptability, and creative constraints. Andii offers insights into how these connections reveal new ways to think about system design, collaboration, and the evolution of digital experiences. Whether
DSP 120. From Designer to Design System Leader: Insights from Allison Shaw's Career Journey
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.On today's episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Allison Shaw, Director of Design at Adobe, shares insights from her expansive journey in design systems. From her early days modernizing Yelp’s desktop experience to her pivotal roles at Zendesk and Adobe, Allison talks openly about transitioning from a designer IC role to management, the power of humili
DSP 119. Rethinking Design Consistency: Debating Tokens vs. Components with ADPs Alice Preisler
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Are components a necessary part of a design system? In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Alice Preisler, the Product Owner of Design System at ADP challenges the idea that all design systems start with a component library. Alice and host, Chris Strahl discuss what starting with documentation and design tokens instead of components might do for a de
DSP 118. Reusability, Collaboration, and Empathy: Catalina Manea on Bridging Design and Development to Build Applications with Design Systems"
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.On today's episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we hear from Catalina Manea, Senior Designer at Spelunk, about the crucial intersection of design and development. Catalina shares her journey from graphic design to product and systems design, providing insights into the importance of reusability, cross-functional collaboration, and empathy in building
DSP 117. Why Kate Moran Thinks Humans Are Essential to the Future of Generative UI and AI.
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.What does the future of UX look like? In today's episode, our host, Chris Strahl, sits down with Kate Moran, the VP of Research and Content at Nielsen Norman Group. They explore the promise of hyper-personalized experiences, the challenges of resource limitations, and the innovative potential of AI in accelerating design processes. Kate touches on the b
DSP 116. Designed for success: How Guy Segal Built a Design System that Product Teams Want to Use.
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl welcomes Guy Segal, the director of digital ecosystem and design systems at Thomson Reuters. Guy shares his experience of building a design system that serves over 150+ brands and the importance of having a point of view when you are working to bring both quality and consistency to a large portfolio
DSP 115. Design System Sources of Truth: Transparency and Collaboration with Dropbox’s Mark Shuster
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.It’s all just opinions, man! In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, Mark Shuster talks about the shift away from enforcing strict guidelines through design systems towards enabling good design and production practices in a more transparent and collaborative way. Chris and Mark discuss different sources of truth within a design system, flexibility an
DSP 114. Design Systems and Ways of Working: Nick Hahn on Collaboration, Adoption, and AI
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.This week we are joined by Nick Hahn to explore how designers, engineers, product managers, and entire organizations have changed the way they think about and work with design systems. Nick shares insight from his experiences at IBM, InVision, Meta, and Bill.com to highlight the importance of collaboration, governance, education, and cultural adoption. Join
DSP 113. Config 2024: Highlights and Hot Takes with Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Recording during Config 2024, this bonus episode of The Design Systems Podcast features long-time friends of the Pod, Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye. They share their fresh takes on the latest Figma keynote, including the buzz around AI-generated designs and the revamped Figma UI. The conversation explores the future of design systems, deeper code integrations
DSP 112. Creating Effective Design Systems for Small and Mid-Size Companies: Apiture’s Journey
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Today’s episode features Ashley Willard and Sarah Kimball (Skim) from Apiture, a smallish fintech company with big enterprise ambitions for its design system. Host Christ Strahl chats with Ashley and Skim about the challenges and opportunities their small team faces trying to navigate the complexities of building a design system that unifies the look and fee
DSP 111. How AI is Revolutionizing Design Systems and Customer Experiences with Dave Calleja
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl welcomes Dave Calleja back to the podcast to discuss the changing nature of design systems, integrating AI into the human creative process, and how to use behavior data for real-time design adaptations. Dave shares his views on the importance of design systems to customer experiences and how modern tools help scale personalized experiences that
DSP 110. The Evolution of ServiceNow's Design System with Meredith Van Lier
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Today on the podcast, we talk to Meredith Van Lier, the director of product management at ServiceNow. Chris and Meredith discuss the unique evolution of ServiceNow's design system and its shift towards a more flexible and user-centric design approach, emphasizing collaboration, automation, and accessibility. Learn about the strategic vision, collaborati
109. Making Design Systems Inclusive with Accessibility Specialist Daniel Henderson-Ede
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Welcome to another episode of The Design Systems Podcast! In honor of Global Accessibility Awareness Day, we're thrilled to have Daniel Henderson-Ede, an accessibility specialist, here to discuss the need for and challenges of making inclusive design experiences for those with disabilities, and how design systems can help. Daniel shares why and how acce
108. U.S. Bank’s Beau Ulrey on Building Trust Through Design Systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.On this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we're thrilled to have Beau Ulrey, the Design System Manager at U.S. Bank, join host Chris Strahl live at the Kiln space in Portland. Today’s episode deep dives into the intricate world where design meets development. Beau will share his fascinating journey from a design and photography background to becomi
107. The Evolution of IBM's Carbon Design System with Scott Strubberg
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join host Chris Strahl as he welcomes our guest Scott Strubberg to the Design Systems Podcast. Scott is a product manager and a key figure behind IBM's Carbon Design System. Today’s conversation unravels the complexities and innovations of integrating brand consistency across digital and physical realms. Chris and Scott explore how feedback and communit
106. Brad Frost on Adaptable Design Systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.We sit down with Brad Frost, a leading voice in design systems. Together, we explore the critical intersection between adaptable design systems and brand identities, unveiling the secrets to creating components that not only function seamlessly across platforms but also resonate with diverse brand aesthetics. Listen in as we discuss the layers of a successfu
105. Ranjeet Tayi from Informatica: AI-Driven Design
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Informatica's design and AI director, Ranjeet Tayi doing us on the Design Systems Podcast to discuss AI's transformative impact on design systems, elucidating the shift from static products to dynamic, personalized AI-driven experiences. Chris and Ranjeet navigate through the intricacies of AI's influence on crafting hyper-personalized interfa
104. Shawn Cheris from Adobe: Spectrum 2 Design System and AI’s Role in the Future of Design
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris and Shawn explore how design tools shape final products, emphasizing the crucial role of managing elements like forms and tables. Shawn shares insights on uniting Adobe departments for greater cohesion and how Spectrum 2 reflects organizational change. They discuss AI integration in design interfaces, drawing parallels with Apple's iPhone design e
103. Nate Baldwin from Intuit: Multi-Brand Theming in Complex Organizations
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we explore the intricate world of theme management in complex design systems at Intuit. Nate Baldwin, Principal Designer at Intuit, shares a revolutionary framework for design tokens, enhancing governance and accessibility. We learn about Figma's role in color swapping and Intuit's theming engine for g
102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we invite you to join us as we engage in a conversation with David Müller, a product designer and design systems lead at one of the world’s top financial institutions. Together, we dive deep into the intricate landscape of banking systems, exploring the complexities of equipping problem solvers with the necessar
101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.PJ Onori, a design systems veteran since 2011 and a driving force behind Pinterest's Gestalt system, talks about the transformative impact of design systems on product development, potentially reshaping the job landscape in design and engineering. In this episode, PJ recounts a pivotal experience at Disney, highlighting the delicate balance between prod
100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join us for a milestone episode of The Design Systems Podcast, featuring Brian Dorsey, a key contributor to Mastercard's groundbreaking design system MADE. Explore how integrating designers into infrastructure teams has revolutionized collaboration. Discover how Mastercard leverages its design system to drive business forward with insights on accessibil
99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.On this episode of DSP, we welcome guest Jackie Lai, a lead UX designer at OPIS, a Dow Jones company, with a rich background in interactive and product design. Explore Jackie's diverse design journey from web to physical products and the transformation of design tools. Discover the importance of cross-functional collaboration and the perpetual evolution
98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, we’re joined by guest Kevin Muldoon, Lead Design Technologist/Design Systems at Dow Jones, to discuss the concepts of alexandrian patterns and their application in design systems. We explore the idea of themes as reusable objects to solve specific design problems, discussing the challenges and potential solution
97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Curt Schreiber, Chief Creative Officer at VSA Partners, joins us for a compelling conversation on the multifaceted nature of design systems. We explore how these intricate frameworks must cater to a diverse array of users and stakeholders, highlighting the need for design systems to personify the organization's character. Curt shares his insights on mai
96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye join host Chris Strahl in a candid conversation that explores career pathways within the evolving realm of design systems amidst the latest market conditions. They share valuable insights on how the key to thriving in uncertain times is through understanding the nuanced dance between business language and design practice. Jina, r
95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we discuss the evolution of design systems with special guest Matt Weinberg, Senior Product Designer at Angi. Matt has a passion for empathy-driven design solutions and shares his unconventional career path that led him to tackle the challenge of refining and improving the design systems at Angi. He reveals how
94. Josh Clark, Founder of Big Medium: Scaling Digital Strategy Within Complex Organizations
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Josh Clark and Chris Strahl dive into an in-depth discussion about navigating the digital landscape amidst economic unpredictability. They discuss the intricacies of building and maintaining design systems in large organizations, addressing the challenges of scaling, and emphasizing the strategic value of digital investments. Josh, an advocate for design sys
93. Nathan Curtis, Co-founder of EightShapes: Balancing reuse and customization in UI Design
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl sits with Nathan Curtis as he explores the delicate balance between reusing existing components and creating customized solutions in UI design. They unpack the complexities of design systems, touching on everything from color selection to ensuring functional and aesthetic harmony, providing insights on principled design choices in a world where
92. Lisa Apers Independent Designer and Researcher: Tailoring UIs with brainwaves for personalized user experiences
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Lisa Apers, a visionary in UI design, as she presents her innovative research on brainwave-responsive user interfaces. Explore how EEG sensors integrated into UIs can revolutionize our digital experiences, creating interfaces that dynamically adapt to individual cognitive states and daily activities. View the transcript of t
91. Designing diversity: Crafting tiered systems for a global market with Tim Banker at Slalom Consulting
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join Chris Strahl and Tim Banker on an exciting dive into the world of innovative design systems. They explore the creation of tailored solutions for a diverse range of global markets, showcasing how a 'system of systems' approach can meet various needs, from marketing to transactional experiences. Get ready to transcend the one-size-fits-all model
90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy as they discuss their approach to evolving with community demands at T. Rowe Price. Dive into the dynamic process of identifying what drives your customers, crafting solutions that resonate, and ensuring widespread adoption of these innovations. View the transcript of this episode here.Register here
89. Metrics matter: Harnessing usage data for adoption, coverage, efficiency, and quality with Maya Hampton at REI
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join Chris Strahl and Maya Hampton as they unpack the power of usage data and its pivotal role in driving adoption, efficiency, and quality. Dive deep, discover the real value of design systems, and see how every component counts!View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Design System Roadmap & Strategy for the Ent
88. Beyond isolation: Harmonizing products in a design ecosystem with JJ Rogers at Watermark
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join Chris Strahl and JJ Rogers, as they explore the challenges and triumphs of harmonizing diverse products at Watermark, highlighting how a harmonized ecosystem elevates user experience and ensures consistent design across all platforms.View the transcript of this episode here.Check out our upcoming events here.GuestJJ Rogers serves as Director of Product
87. Designing success: Crafting principles for passkey adoption with Kevin Goldman and Sierre Wolfkostin at FIDO Alliance
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join Chris Strahl, Kevin Goldman, and Sierre Wolfkostin as they sit down to explore the Fido Alliance's mission of revolutionizing online authentication by eliminating traditional passwords and replacing them with secure and user-friendly passkeys. Discover how these principles, tested and proven, are set to transform user experiences and incentivize th
86. From consistency to contribution: How design systems grow trees with Jay Smith at REI
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl sits with Jay Smith as they unravel the secrets of REI's design system consistency. Uncover how their groundbreaking approach to design, colors, and tokens is reshaping standards. With an eco-friendly twist: for every contribution to the system, trees are planted. As the system grows, so does a forest.View the transcript of this episode her
85. Driving speed and consistency: The power of design systems in startups with Jamie Totten at Klue
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl sits with Jamie Totten from Klue and they unpack the unique challenges and benefits of implementing a design system in a fast-paced startup. Drawing inspiration from Spotify's "guild format", they emphasize the importance of voluntary commitment, maintaining positivity and on making the most with limited resources.View the transcr
84. Digital typography: Suggesting, not dictating with Juli Sombat at Spotify and Jason Pamental at Chewy
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl sits with Juli Sombat from Spotify and Jason Pamental from Chewy as they unravel the evolution of digital typography, emphasizing the shift from dictation to suggestion. They explore the dynamic between designers and users and the transformative power of user customization.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming w
83. Breaking silos and enhancing teamwork in design systems with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke at Accutech
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl sits with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke who tackle the age-old conflict between design and development. They discuss harnessing the power of design systems to streamline collaboration, conquer inefficiency, and unlock the true potential of their teams.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really M
82. Design system revamp: Unpacking Monster's UX odyssey with Billea Breen
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl and Billea Breen explore the essential interaction between design and development to craft a flawless user experience, offering tactics to maintain consistency and enhance workflows.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design Systems’ on October 25th. GuestMeet Billea, the Senio
81. Embracing change with Mark Reynolds, Design System Consultant: How design and engineering roles are evolving in design systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl and Mark Reynolyds navigate the ever-changing world of design systems, exploring the idea that design and engineering roles will become more aligned in the near future.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th. GuestMark Reynolds is a design
80. Bridging Code & Creativity with Kevin Broich at Cisco
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl talks with Kevin Broich about his transition from backend developer to designer at Cisco. Kevin shares insights on creating a crucial CSS-based UI kit for Cisco's major rebranding phase and more.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th
79. Inside Pinterest's Gestalt System with Product Designers, Kate Halvorsen and Cintia Romero: A community-centric approach
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Strahl chats with Kate and Cinita on Pinterest's design system, Gestalt. Learn how their team built a system prioritizing documentation, inclusivity and accessibility. A space designed to ensure global and remote activity, encouraging users to easily contribute and communicate effectively. View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for
78. Bridging the design-code gap at Meta, a multidisciplinary approach with Sriram Ramasubramanian
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Join Chris Strahl as he sits down with Sriram Ramasubramanian from Meta to discuss the intricacies of designing at scale. Dive deep into the world of design systems, Figma plugins, design tokens, and the challenges of interoperability across multiple platforms.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Comple
77. Robin Cannon, Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan: Creating an environment that encourages and builds trust with design systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris and Robin discuss creating an environment and ecosystem where people are excited to use design systems; and the importance these systems have when encouraging trust and accountability to assist teams with their work.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on Au
76. Christophe Coutzoukis Design System Lead: Building Thriving Design System Communities
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Christophe and Chris discuss the art of building thriving design system communities. They share their profound insights and experiences, offering valuable perspectives on fostering vibrant and inclusive communities that flourish with creativity and collaboration.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Introducing Kna
75. Adam Sedwick Senior Product Manager: Harnessing the power of design systems to unify your team
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Adam and Chris discuss the power of design systems and their ability to break down barriers between designers and developers.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Introducing Knapsack V4: A Powerful Update for a Future-Ready Experience,’ July 26th at 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT).GuestAdam Sedwick is a senior product ma
74. Richard Banfield, Advisor & Recovering CEO: What does iterative work look like in design systems?
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Richard and Chris discuss iterative work and how integral thinking by doing is when progressing work forward. View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT).GuestProfessionally, I express myself through creating new products and businesses, both for myself and oth
73. Sheryl Cababa Chief Strategy Officer at Substantial: Using system thinking to make informed decisions
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Sheryl and Chris discuss the complexities of the design system space as it involves human behaviours. View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT).GuestSheryl Cababa is the author of Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for Designers. She's a design researche
72. Danielle MacDonald Creative Head, Digital Product Design: Designing to scale
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Danielle and Chris discuss the impact designing at scale will have on ROI.View the transcript of this episode here.Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT).GuestDanielle MacDonald is a design leader and self-proclaimed design systems geek, with over 15 years of experience in managing digital design
71. Chris Deluca Senior Front-End Developer: People are the heart of design systems
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Chris Deluca and Chris discuss the significance of prioritizing people in the process of developing design systems. They explore a central question that consistently arises: Whose lives are you striving to enrich and simplify?View the transcript of this episode here.GuestsChris DeLuca is a senior front end web developer from New Jersey with thirteen years o
70. Pinata's Kendall Totten interviews Knapsack CEO Chris Strahl: Design with code and AI
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Kendall and Chris discuss how design systems represent the strategic platform for how a company creates product. View the transcript of this episode here.Register for our upcoming ‘Design Systems Buying Guide’ webinar on May 24th, 2 pm (EST), hosted by Chris Strahl and Dan Mall. GuestKendall Totten began as a graphic designer & frontend web dev and found
69. The single source of truth mentality: Meta Part Two
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.A round table discussion hosted by Chris and Andrew from Knapsack with the Meta Blueprint team, part two. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestsChristopher Clare - Director of Product DesignChris Clare is the Head of Foundation Design for FB App responsible for unifying the app through the Blueprint Design System, driving efficiency for the rest of
68. Driving Consistency Across Systems with Meta Part One
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.A round table discussion hosted by Chris and Andrew from Knapsack with the Meta Blueprint team (part one). View the transcript of this episode here.GuestsChristopher Clare - Director of Product DesignChris Clare is the Head of Foundation Design for FB App responsible for unifying the app through the Blueprint Design System, driving efficiency for the rest of
67. Design Token Takes Part Two: Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent and Darren Simons
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Kaelig, Darren, and Chris talk tokens and code: “Using a whole different type of brain.” View the transcript of this episode here. Want to hear more? Register for Knapsack’s upcoming talking tokens webinar here. GuestsKaelig Deloumeau-Prigent, Principal Software Engineer at NetlifyFounder of the Design Tokens W3C Community Group, providing open standards for
66. Design Token Takes Part One: Amber Stickel and Taylor Cashdan
Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Amber, Taylor, and Chris talk tokens; the pros and cons.View the transcript of this episode here.GuestsAmber Stickel, Principal Design Technologist at IntuitFront-end designer and developer with a passion for creating modular, reusable, and flexible interfaces and systems. With multidisciplinary knowledge and tools in hand, I’m hoping to improve the web one
65. Morgane Peng Managing Director & Head of Design at Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking: Is a design system a business asset or a technical asset?
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