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The Criminal Justice Section of the ABA 186 Episodes Aug 19, 2026

The JustPod is a podcast produced by the Criminal Justice Section of the American Bar Association. It covers current issues in criminal justice reform, policy, and Supreme Court decisions. The show also discusses the work of the Criminal Justice Section, including events, task forces, standards, and the ABA's ICC project. This podcast does not necessarily represent official ABA policy.

Episodes

Our discussion with David Oscar Markus
Our discussion with David Oscar Markus Aug 19, 2026 2970 Send us Fan MailWe are well into the era of artificial intelligence and TikTok, and both are having dramatic impacts on our lives.  Trial practice, and criminal defense practice, are not immune from that influence, which is perhaps unsurprising given that trials and criminal defense are a mirror, in some ways, of the state of our society at large.  We had the opportunity to catch up with David Osc
White Collar Talks: Upcoming 12th Annual Southeastern White Collar Crime Institute
White Collar Talks: Upcoming 12th Annual Southeastern White Collar Crime Institute Aug 11, 2026 2299 Send us Fan MailIn this White Collar Talks episode, ABA CJS Chair Nina Marino and program co-Chairs Joe Whitley and Brian McEvoy discussing the upcoming 12th Annual Southeastern White Collar Crime Institute in Braselton, GA, September 9-11th. For over a decade, the ABA Criminal Justice Section’s Southeastern White Collar Crime Institute has been the premier regional program for professionals engag
Freakonomics for Criminal Justice:  Our Discussion with Economist Jennifer Doleac
Freakonomics for Criminal Justice:  Our Discussion with Economist Jennifer Doleac Jul 16, 2026 3603 Send us Fan MailJennifer Doleac is a Stanford-educated economist, a former college economics professor, and the author of The Science of Second Chances:  A Revolution in Criminal Justice, published by Henry Holt and Company and available in print as of February 24, 2026.  We spoke with Jennifer about her new book, which is billed as “Freakonomics for criminal justice,” and explores real-world expe
Interview of John Hutchins: Habeas Challenges to the Death Penalty and the Experience of Representing Defendants on Death Row
Interview of John Hutchins: Habeas Challenges to the Death Penalty and the Experience of Representing Defendants on Death Row Jul 2, 2026 2909 Send us Fan MailWhen a person is sentenced to death, the case is not over.  Some of the most critical legal work happens after the trial and direct appeals are finished. That’s where habeas attorneys step in, often years later, to uncover constitutional violations, investigate what was missed, and ask a fundamental question: did the system get it right?  John Hutchins has spent years representing
White Collar Talks: Upcoming 2026 Global White Collar Institute
White Collar Talks: Upcoming 2026 Global White Collar Institute Jun 22, 2026 1603 Send us Fan Mail“White Collar Talks with Nina and Joe” episode features Lucian Dervan, discussing the upcoming 2026 Global White Collar Crime Institute, July 13-14, 2026, in Singapore. which will bring together senior practitioners, government officials, judges, and scholars to examine the evolving and increasingly complex landscape of international white collar crime. Hosts are Nina Marino and Jo
One Woman’s Experience as a Federal Prison Inmate, and Her Return:  A Discussion with Portia Louder
One Woman’s Experience as a Federal Prison Inmate, and Her Return:  A Discussion with Portia Louder May 18, 2026 2286 Send us Fan MailIn 2007, FBI agents showed up at the home of Portia Louder and her husband Chad.  Their youngest of five children was just three months old at the time.  Seven years later, in August 2014, Louder pleaded guilty to wire fraud and conspiracy.  And on the morning of April 21, 2015, she and Chad left their home in Utah on a 14-hour drive to the facility where Louder would self-surrende
Meek Mill’s REFORM Alliance and the Promise of Probation and Parole Reform
Meek Mill’s REFORM Alliance and the Promise of Probation and Parole Reform Apr 21, 2026 2755 Send us Fan MailThis being “Second Chance Month,” it’s a perfect time to share our discussion with Jessica Jackson and Erin Haney—respectively, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Policy Officer of the REFORM Alliance, the justice initiative founded by Philadelphia-born and Grammy-nominated rapper Meek Mill and others.When Mill was sentenced, in November 2017, to a term of two to four years in priso
White Collar Talks: ABA 2026 White Collar Crime Institute
White Collar Talks: ABA 2026 White Collar Crime Institute Feb 17, 2026 2047 Send us Fan MailProgram Co-Chairs Maggie O’Donell and Aitan Goelman discuss the history of the ABA Criminal Justice Section’s White Collar Crime Institute and the upcoming 2026 program on March 10-13, 2026 in San Diego, CA.  "White Collar Talks" are hosted by Nina Marino and Joe Whitley.The ABA White Collar Crime Institute is the nation’s premier forum for insights, updates, and expert a
Our Discussion with Josh Hoe, Senior Policy Manager at Dream.org
Our Discussion with Josh Hoe, Senior Policy Manager at Dream.org Jan 26, 2026 2723 Send us Fan MailJosh Hoe is Senior Policy Manager at Dream.org, and the host and creator of the Decarceration Nation Podcast.  Josh, who is himself formerly incarcerated, is the author of “Writing Your Own Best Story: Addiction + Living Hope.”  We connected to discuss Josh’s recent writing, in which he argues that the so-called “National Emergency on Crime” is not real, and why we should reject it
The Vacation of Tom Hayes’s Conviction (Part 2 of our two-part discussion)
The Vacation of Tom Hayes’s Conviction (Part 2 of our two-part discussion) Jan 20, 2026 3154 Send us Fan MailThis is Part 2 of our two-part discussion with Tom Hayes, the now vindicated former English banker, who we first spoke with in April 2025.  At the time of that earlier discussion with Tom, in Part 1 of this series, Tom was awaiting a decision of the United Kingdom’s Supreme Court on the appeal of his August 2015 conviction, arising from his work submitting rates, on behalf of his e
The Conviction of Tom Hayes and the Global Libor Scandal (Part 1 of our two-part discussion)
The Conviction of Tom Hayes and the Global Libor Scandal (Part 1 of our two-part discussion) Jan 20, 2026 3533 Send us Fan MailThis is the first episode in our two-part discussion with Tom Hayes, who we first spoke with in April 2025.  At the time of our first discussion with Tom, recorded in Part 1 of this series, Tom was awaiting a decision of the United Kingdom’s Supreme Court on the appeal of his August 2015 conviction, arising from his work submitting rates on behalf of bank he worked for, which were
Our Discussion with Philadelphia U.S. Attorney David Metcalf
Our Discussion with Philadelphia U.S. Attorney David Metcalf Jan 14, 2026 2448 Send us Fan MailIn the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, home to Philadelphia and its surrounding counties, the U.S. Attorney is David Metcalf.  We spoke shortly after the end of the government shutdown, at a time when the U.S. Department of Justice is under great scrutiny.  The job of U.S. Attorney is always challenging, and even more so in the current climate, so we appreciated U.S. Attorney Met

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