
The Virtual CISO Podcast
The Virtual CISO Podcast offers frank discussions on information security, providing advice and insights for security, IT, and business leaders. Host John Verry chats with industry thought leaders about topics like ISO 27001, breach avoidance, incident response, data privacy, and vendor risk management. The show aims to keep listeners informed and proactive with a touch of humor.
Episodes

Episode 160: Managing Identity in the Age of AI Agents With Geoffrey Mattson

Episode 159: The New Security Stack: Doors, Data, and AI With Jeffrey Friedman

Episode 158: AI Is Increasing Your Cyber Risk – Can It Also Reduce It? With Mike Armistead

Episode 157: AI Security: Testing, Exploits, and Threat Feeds With Marco Figueroa

Episode 156: AI Security: Threat Modeling & Pipeline Evolution with Jason Rebholz

Episode 155: Incident Response Testing in Cloud Forward Organizations with Matt Lea

Ep 154: How DORA Will Impact US Companies with Dejan Kosutic

Ep 153: Inside ISO 42001: The Future of AI Governance with Danny Manimbo

EP 152: Granular, Persistent, Zero Trust: The Case for File-Level Security

EP 151: Trust, But Verify: How HITRUST is Reshaping Assurance
In this episode of the Virtual CISO Podcast, host John Verry and guest Chris Schaeffer discussthe HITRUST framework, its evolution, and its significance in the cybersecurity landscape. Theydelve into the Common Security Framework (CSF), the different assessment models (E1, I1,R2), and how HITRUST compares to other frameworks like SOC 2 and ISO 27001. Theconversation also touches on the future of H

Ep 150: Is OSCAL the Future of Security Documentation (& FedRAMP)?
In this episode of the Virtual CISO Podcast, John Verry speaks with Kenny Scott, founder and CEO of Paramify, about the challenges of cyber risk management and the potential of OSCAL (Open Security Controls Assessment Language) in simplifying compliance and documentation processes. They discuss the importance of structured digital communication in security, the complexities of FedRAMP, and how OSC

Ep 149: Unlocking the Future: Passkeys and Passwordless Authentication with Anna Pobletts

Episode 148: Cloud Detection & Response
In this episode, John Verry interviews Eric Gumanofsky, Vice President for Product Innovation at Tenable Security, about the concept of Cloud Detection and Response (CDR). They discuss the similarities and differences between CDR and Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR), as well as the integration of CDR into a comprehensive Cloud Native Application Protection (CNAP) solution. They also explore t

Episode 147: Why vCISO Engagements Fail
In this episode, John Verry and Matt Webster discuss the evolving landscape of virtual CISO services, exploring the common pitfalls and failures associated with these projects. They emphasize the importance of clear expectations, the distinction between a virtual CISO and a virtual security team, and the necessity of executive buy-in for successful cybersecurity initiatives. The conversation also

Episode 146: Dark Web Monitoring
In this conversation, John Verry interviews Steph Shample, Cybercrime Analyst for DarkOwl, about the dark web and its implications for cybersecurity professionals. They discuss: The basics of the dark web, its purpose, and the types of activities that take place there. They also explore the value of darknet data for threat intelligence and how it can be used to understand and combat cyber threats.

Episode 145: CMMC: The Final Rule
In this episode of the Virtual See-So Podcast, host John Verry speaks with Sanjeev Verma, chairman and co-founder of Prevail, about the intricacies of CMMC compliance and the importance of cybersecurity. They discuss: The delays in CMMC implementation, key elements of the new regulation, and the importance of being prepared for compliance. The complexities of compliance with CMMC regulations, the

Episode 144: TxRAMP or StateRAMP or AZRAMP or FedRAMP? What’s right for your company?
In this episode of The Virtual CISO Podcast, your host John Verry is joined by Mike Craig to break down the differences between FedRAMP, TxRAMP, AZRAMP, and StateRAMP.Together, they discuss:How the Naoris Protocol establishes decentralized trust for compute endpoints. Key distinctions between the RAMP frameworks and how they impact an organization's path to Authorization to Operate (ATO).How Organ

Episode 143: Is Decentralized Proof of Security Leveraging Blockchain the future of Cybersecurity?
In this episode of The Virtual CISO Podcast, your host, John Verry, sits down with David Carvalho, a cryptography and cybersecurity expert with over 25 years of experience, to explore the next frontier in cybersecurity: decentralized security models and post-quantum cryptography.How the Naoris Protocol establishes decentralized trust for compute endpoints. The importance of a decentralized securit

Episode 142: CNAPP - Secure Cloud Apps in a Snap

Episode 141: Stopping Business Email Compromise with a Novel Malicious File Reconstruction Approach
In this episode of The Virtual CISO Podcast, your host, John Verry, engages in a conversation with Aviv Grafi, CTO and founder of Votiro, as they discuss innovative solutions to combat business email compromise. Join us as we discuss:The mechanisms of business email compromise How malicious files are used in cyberattacks The limitations of traditional security methods The benefits of malicious fil

Episode 140: DIB/CMMC Cybersecurity – Interesting Observations from a Significant Study
Join us for an engaging episode of the Virtual CISO Podcast with host John Verry. This episode features Chris Petersen, co-founder of LogRhythm and current CEO of Radical. Chris brings over two decades of experience in cybersecurity, offering deep insights into the industry's challenges and advancements. In this episode, we'll explore: - The surprising results from Radical’s DIB Cybersecurity Surv

Episode 139: How adding Crisis Management to your Incident Response Plan can save your bacon?
Join us for an engaging episode of the Virtual CISO Podcast with host John Verry. This episode features Kevin Dinino, President of KCD PR, who delves into the critical aspects of crisis management and communications. Kevin brings over 20 years of experience in guiding companies through the complexities of strategic communications, particularly in the cybersecurity, financial, and technology sector

Episode 138: Is Consuming SaaS an Information Security Faustian Bargain? w/ William Eshagh

Episode 137: Strategies and Insights w/ Sagi Brody

Episode 136: AI Risk Management – Is ISO 42001 the Solution? w/ Ariel Allensworth

Episode 135: Can Distributed Ledger Technology Simplify Privacy Compliance? W/ Zenobia Godschalk
In this episode of The Virtual CISO Podcast, your host, John Verry, engages in a conversation with guest Zenobia Godschalk, Senior Vice President of Hedera Hashgraph, as they discuss distributed ledger technology and its effects on privacy compliance. Join us as we discuss the following: The erosion of Privacy OnlineDistributed Ledger Technology (DLT) and how it enables Web 3How DLT can be used to

Episode 134: Understanding TISAX w/ Alexander Häusler

Kubernetes Security – Simplified Shauli Rozen, CEO of ARMO
In this episode of The Virtual CISO Podcast, your host, John Verry, engages in a conversation with guest Shauli Rozen, CEO and Co-Founder of ARMO, exploring the intricacies of Kubernetes, the orchestration tool that's reshaping how we deploy, scale, and manage containerized applications.Join us as we discuss:What a container isImplications of containers on securityHow you can leverage Kubescape to

Episode 132: Optimize Your SOC 2 - Lessons Learned from the 2023 Benchmark Study w/ Scott Woznicki

Episode 131: The New CMCC Proposed Rule w/ Jeff Carden & Warren Hylton

Episode 130: Revolutionizing Security Training with Kevin Paige CISO and VP of Product Strategy at Uptycs

Episode 129: Empowering Diversity in the Cybersecurity Industry with Larry Whiteside Jr.

Episode 128: Understanding the ISO 27001:2022 Update with Andrew Frost and Leigh Ronczka
In this episode of The Virtual CISO Podcast, your host, John Verry, sits down with Andrew Frost and Leigh Ronczka of CBIZ Pivot Point Security to discuss the updates needed to successfully transition from ISO27001:2013 to ISO 27001:2022. Join us as we discuss: How simplistic it is for a company to transition to ISO 27001:2022The level of effort required to implement the changesWhat auditors are lo

Ep 127: The Future of Security: Unraveling the World of Social Engineering

Ep 126: Unlocking AI's Potential: Risks, Optimism & Challenges in the Current Wave of AI Technology

Ep: 125 - Understanding the New FTC Safeguards Rule: Key Changes and Requirements Explained
Tune into an insightful conversation with Jeremy Price, co-leader of a national cybersecurity practice. In this engaging discussion, Jermey explains the updated FTC safeguard rules that went into effect in June and what they’re intended to do. In this episode, your host, John Verry, and Jeremy Price discuss: - The Gramm Leach Bliley Act updates and how that affects financial institutions, and comp

An Introduction to AI and its Place in the Work Place with CEO of Private AI Patricia Thaine
Join us for an insightful conversation with Patricia Thaine, Founder and CEO of Private AI, as we delve into the world of artificial intelligence, language models, and data privacy. In this engaging discussion, Patricia sheds light on the transformative potential of AI, particularly language models like GPT-3.5, in various industries. In this episode, your host, John Verry, and Patricia Thaine dis

Ep 123: Navigating IT-OT Dynamics: Cybersecurity, Integration, and Collaboration

Ep 122: Navigating New Horizons: CMMC, NIST 800-171 Updates, and Compliance Insights
In this episode of the "Virtual CISO Podcast," your host John Verry speaks with guest Warren Hylton, a FedRisk consultant at CBIZ Pivot Point Security, to explore recent updates in cybersecurity regulations. The conversation revolves around the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC) and the updated NIST Special Publication 800-171 (R2 to R3).Join us in this week’s episode as we discuss

Ep 121: Strategies for Reducing the Cost of Your Cyber Liability Insurance Policy
Like many other businesses, law firms are at significant risk of cyber-attack and increasingly are turning to cyber liability insurance (CLI) to transfer some of their cyber risk. But many are being denied coverage or face high premiums due to shortfalls in their cybersecurity controls. In this episode, your host John Verry, CBIZ Pivot Point Security Managing Director, sits down with Jack Liljeber

Ep 120: A FedRAMP ATO – The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
To do wide-scale business within the US federal government, cloud service providers (CSPs) need a FedRAMP ATO. The prospect can be daunting as few CSPs have federal cyber compliance expertise. Misconceptions and misinformation can create additional roadblocks. In this episode, your host John Verry, CBIZ Pivot Point Security Managing Director , sits down with Mike Craig, CEO at Vanaheim Security, w

Ep 119: What is a Microservice Architecture and how do I secure it?
Whatever kind of software application a team is building, the identification and remediation of cybersecurity issues needs to be part of every stage of the software development lifecycle (SDLC). But making that happen takes a wealth of skills and approaches, as well as an eye on compliance and the ability to keep pace with the ever-changing online environment—microservices being a prime example.In

Ep 118: The Simplest Way to Transition from ISO 27001:2013 to ISO 27001:2022
If you are ISO 27001 certified, or considering it, you are likely wondering how the transition from ISO 27001:2013 to ISO 27001:2022 affects you. With the notable changes, there are many uncertainties. For example, how soon can you get certified to ISO 27001:2022? Can you still get certified to 27001:2013? For anyone already certified, how soon can they transition to ISO 27001:2022? In this episod

Ep 117: Eight Key Takeaways from the RSA 2023 Conference
In this week's episode of the Virtual CISO podcast, your host John Verry, Pivot Point Security CISO and Managing Partner, shares his valuable insights from the 2023 RSA conference. As the security industry evolves, with an increasing number of vendors and products, John advises against adopting a product-based security strategy. Instead, he recommends having a clear plan to address specific securi

Ep 116: What is an SBOM & Why Are My Customers Suddenly Asking for One?
With the release of President Biden’s Executive Order 14028 on “Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity” from May 2021 the US public and private sectors have been alerted to the significant cybersecurity risks within our software supply chain. As of the March 2023 release of the National Cybersecurity Strategy, which will shift liability for software products and services to promote secure developmen

Ep 115: If Your Asset Management Sucks, Your Security Sucks
Asset management is a crucial aspect of information security. It refers to the processes and procedures involved in identifying, organizing, tracking, and protecting an organization's assets. The security of these assets is paramount, as you can’t protect what you don’t know about. To learn more about how to Fix Cyber Asset Management, your host John Verry, sits down with Huxley Barbee, Security E

Ep 114: 4 Tactical Steps To Implementing DevSecOps In 2023
DevSecOps is the practice of integrating security testing at every stage of the software development process. With DevSecOps, training and educating all teams in risk, security, and mitigation at all stages of development is a top priority– traditionally, app developers don't pay much attention to security, which increases the risk of vulnerable code being deployed and the application being compro

Ep 113: Should we be in Microsoft 365 GCC, GCC High, or Commercial?
Microsoft 365 was launched in 2011 in hopes of revolutionizing cloud-powered productivity platforms. Since then, Microsoft 365 has grown to the point where it is now one of the largest cloud-powered productivity platforms on the market, competing with the likes of Google and more.To give organizations a clear picture of their Microsoft 365 options, your host John Verry sits down with Conrad Agramo

Ep 112: When should you move to ISO 27001:2022?
ISO 27001:2022 is the first update to the global "gold standard" for provable cybersecurity in ten years. Notable changes from the 2013 version will likely significantly impact most organizations' Information Security Management Systems (ISMS). In this episode, your host John Verry sits down with Ryan Mackie and Danny Manimbo from Schellman & Co. to explain the most significant changes in ISO

Ep 111: How to use the Software Assurance Maturity Model (SAMM) to Build Highly Secure Applications
The “buzz” in building more secure applications is “shift security left,” which means integrating security into and throughout the Software Development Lifecycle (SDLC). The Software Assurance Maturity Model (SAMM) is an excellent tool from OWASP that provides a framework for assessing and improving your development processes, resulting in more secure applications. In this episode, your host, John

Ep 110: Understanding TISAX (Trusted Information Security Assessment Exchange)
Trusted Information Security Assessment Exchange (TISAX) is a vendor due diligence standard used in the automotive industry to verify that third-party suppliers’ cybersecurity programs provide adequate protection for the information the automotive supplier shares. In this episode, your host John Verry, CISO and Managing Partner at Pivot Point Security, sits down with Ed Chandler, Account Executive

Ep 109: Understanding How Cybercriminals Operate Can Protect Your Business
In today’s cyber landscape, business leaders and security professionals need every edge they can gain to better protect their organizations and plan their defense against attackers. . Why do hackers do what they do? What are they trying to steal from you? Who do they partner with to make money and avoid getting caught? In this episode, hosted by John Verry, CISO and Managing Partner at Pivot Point

Ep 108: Understanding the Legalities Around CUI
Orgs in the DIB need to protect CUI in alignment with the NIST 800-171 cybersecurity standard—and soon the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC) requirements—or face legal and compliance penalties as well as potential lost business. To clarify the biggest questions and reveal the most dangerous unknowns in the convoluted realm of CUI, your host John Verry, Pivot Point Security CISO an

Ep 107: An AWS Security Guru’s Recommendation for Securing your AWS Infrastructure
Over 90% of security breaches in the public cloud stem from user error, and not the cloud service provider. Today, your host John Verry sat down with one of Amazon Web Services (AWS) own Temi Adebambo, to understand what is going wrong with public cloud security, and how you can eliminate your biggest risks. This episode features Temi Adebambo, Head of Security Solutions Architecture at Amazon We

Ep 106: Strategies to Manage Cybersecurity through an Economic Downturn
Managing Cybersecurity through an Economic downturn is no easy task. With increasing concerns on how to stay secure and compliant in a down economy, John Verry tackles this podcast himself giving you his ten best fundamental practices. This episode features your host John Verry, CISO & Managing Partner, from Pivot Point Security, who provides answers and explanations to a variety of questions

Ep 105: Solving the Problems of Cloud Native Apps.
Building Cloud Native Applications can bring about many operational and security problems. Today, we sat down with an expert in this field to talk about building cloud native applications, and deploying applications that are secure in the cloud. This episode features Fausto Lendeborg, Co-Founder & CCO, from Secberus, who provides answers and explanations to a variety of questions regarding Bui

Ep 104: Is Digital Business Risk Mgt. The Future of ASM
Digital Business Risk Management helps companies track and disrupt the most advanced bad actors. Team Crymu specializes in Digital Business Risk Management & Attack Surface Management, giving clients insight and help relating to cyber threats. This episode features David Monnier, Chief Evangelist and Team Cymru Fellow, from Team Cymru, who provides answers and explanations to a variety of que

Ep 103: The Complexity of Deploying a Secure Application in the Cloud
Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC) platforms can be tricky to construct. Today, we sat down with an expert in this field to talk about building and deploying secure applications in the cloud. This episode features Jeff Schlauder, Information Security Executive, from Catalina Worldwide, who provides answers and explanations to a variety of questions regarding deploying applications securely in

Ep 102: The Intersection of Privacy and Security
You cannot have privacy without security. While they once existed quite distinct from one another, they are now so delicately woven that they are nearly indistinguishable. Over time, the GDPR has cemented the relationship between physical security and information security, and now, it’s incorporating data privacy. This compliance triad has become the new normal for businesses everywhere– but what

Ep 101: Most Asked CMMC Questions
CMMC (Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification) can raise many red flags and concerns - As CMMC rulemaking approaches in 2023, we take a break from our normal podcast and answer the most asked CMMC questions to date to help ease the unknown. This episode features George Perezdiaz, FedRisk Practice Lead, with Pivot Point Security, who provides answers and explanations to a variety of questions we

Ep 100: The Two Audiences For Privacy & How They Drive Data Collection
This marks our 100th episode of The Virtual CISO and an insightful journey into having the opportunity to have frank discussions with thought leaders that provide the very best information security advice and insights. I am happy to have invited Dimitri Sirota, CEO & CoFounder of BigID, to walk through BigID’s approach to privacy, security, and data governance on this momentous episodic occa

Unpacking Critical Elements of Supply Chain Risk Management
Supply chain risk management can prove to be a slippery slope—why should you take pains to conduct a proper risk assessment, and how do they impact IT and business continuity? From international restrictions to balancing generic and specific risk assessments, any guidance is welcome in the world of supply chain management. I invited Willy Fabritius, Global Head of Strategy & Business Develo

Breaking Down the Latest in Software Security Standards & the Impact on SaaS Businesses
What are the merits of the Software Assurance Maturity Model (SAMM), and how does it differ from the Application Security Verification Standard (ASVS) model? And why should you care? From design to operations, there are several crucial considerations to hold regarding business functions and use cases. I invited Taylor Smith, Application Penetration Testing Lead at Pivot Point Security, onto the

What You Need to Know about APIs and API Security
Application development is moving from a web-centric world to an API-centric world. If you’re wondering what that looks like, what the security implications are and what an API is, you’re in the right place. There is no shortage of new application security strategies to familiarize ourselves with as cybersecurity adapts to changing times. That’s why I invited Rob Dickinson, CTO at Resurface Labs

How to Measure the Value of Information Security
Most recognize the value preservation in cybersecurity. But forward thinking professionals also see the value creation in having a secure information posture. Cybersecurity is the foundation of preserving sensitive data and providing peace of mind but does it create value for the organization and if so, how do we measure that value? Tracking the return on investment on cyber security can be chal

Understanding NIST’s Secure Software Development Framework
What exactly is a Software Development Life Cycle, and how does NIST’s Secure Software Development Framework impact that cycle and your organization? Of note, the SSDF will definitely impact you if your software is used by the US Government and will likely impact you even if it isn’t. There are a few choice practices that can help make sense of these two critical processes and provide the highest

US Gov. Cybersecurity Roadmap: Where it came from and Where is it Going?
Today, information is worth more than riches. The new currency is data. With this being true, the state of cybersecurity within the upper branches of the government was shockingly under-prepared. In this episode, I speak with Mark Montgomery, the former Executive Director of the Cyber Solarium Commission, about the report the commission published in March 2020 and how that document has influenced

Confronting the Wild West of Database Security
Don’t wait for an emergency; secure your database correctly right out of the gate. Think of everything outside of your database as the wild west. What can you do to create the most controlled environment possible for all of your most sensitive data? I invited Robert Buda, President of Buda Consulting, Inc, and an expert in database technology, onto the show to help us learn the value of database

Bridging the Gap Between Cybersecurity and the Business World
Ron Gula, President and Co-Founder of Gula Tech Adventures, has a very specific goal: To defend the country in cyberspace by investing in companies and nonprofits that help close the gap in technology and the workforce. He also knows that in order to successfully achieve this goal, organizations must understand the basics of data protection. Today, Ron joins the show to talk about the mindset sh

Legal and Infosec strategies to deal with exploding Cyber Liability Insurance premiums
There’s no denying that cybersecurity risks in the workplace have increased exponentially in recent years. From the pandemic causing employees to work from home to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, organizations are more vulnerable than ever. That’s why it’s crucial to understand how to best protect yourself and your business. On this episode, Eric Jesse, Partner at Lowenstein Sandler LLP, joins the

Important Clarifications on CMMC v2 from CMMC Day May 9, 2022
To invest in CMMC or to not invest in CMMC, that is the question. CMMC (Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification) is a lofty yet necessary investment for the Defense Industrial Base. With all signs pointing to May 2023 for when we can expect CMMC to be included in contracts, anyone who is considering CMMC should do it sooner rather than later as implementing any comprehensive cyber security pro

The Past, Present and Future of Cybersecurity From the Viewpoint of a Venture Capitalist
Alberto Yépez joins the show to share his perspective as a venture capitalist working to help entrepreneurs build Cybersecurity businesses. He started his wildly successful career at Apple and he is now the Co-Founder and Managing Director at Forgepoint Capital. Join us as we discuss: Information security challenges from the 2000’s that we still face todayAlberto’s experience working at AppleCr

Understanding Attack Surface Management and How It Applies to Your Cyber Security Strategy
We’ve spent the last two and a half years with rapidly rising cloud adoption. It was a rocket ship before that, but the COVID-19 pandemic has only accelerated it and caused everybody to scramble. We’re still trying to play catch up and get equivalent security treatments for people working remotely to the folks working in the office. Every client has concerns about their current exposure, which is

The Convergence of Physical & Cyber Security and the Impact to Cyber Security Professionals
As technology advances, there will always be new threats from malicious actors seeking to exploit these advancements — whether that be in the digital realm or physical. With technologies increasingly blurring the lines between the two, today’s security professionals must adapt as the sectors of physical security and cyber security converge into one. Today’s guest, Chris Ciabarra, Co-Founder and

What CMMC 2 Guidance Means for Managed Service Providers (MSPs)
As the implementation of CMMC by the DIB picks up pace, the frequently shifting requirements can be daunting — especially when the guidance is already so complex. And that’s doubly true for managed service providers (MSPs), who have to contend with some of the most confusing CUI requirements. In today’s episode, making his 3rd guest appearance, I’m joined by Caleb Leidy, CUI Protection and CMMC Co

8 Ingredients for Baking Inclusivity into Your Culture
Inclusivity and diversity aren’t just about who you hire — it’s about the culture you create. Sure, you can get talent from all walks of life, but if you haven’t built an inclusive culture… Well, good luck getting them to stick around. Today, I’m speaking with Deidre Diamond, Founder and CEO at CyberSN, who shares her 8-step framework for creating an inclusive culture in your organization. Join us

Becoming More Efficient w/ a Cloud-Native Approach
What if you could be proactive in your approach to cloud data security rather than a reactive one once the attack has been made? This is exactly the solution our guest is providing at Panther Labs. We speak with Jack Naglieri, Founder & CEO, about the cloud-native approach and exactly why SIEMs are getting left behind. Join us as we discuss: Developing Panther & taking a different cloud-na

Use the CSA Cloud Controls to Maximize Your Security & Reduce Your Risk of Breach
Even before the pandemic, the majority of businesses were already moving to the cloud. Now, it seems you can’t do business without it. Which means cloud security and compliance is more important than ever. That’s why I’m speaking to one of the authorities on cloud security, John DiMaria, Assurance Investigatory Fellow at Cloud Security Alliance, in today’s episode — to demystify cloud securit

Ongoing Challenges in CMMC
CMMC has come a long way in recent years… But organizations still face plenty of challenges navigating the guidance. What are the biggest hurdles and how can we reduce the confusion? To answer these questions, I’m joined by Kyle Lai, Founder and CISO of KLC Consulting, and Caleb Leidy, the CUI Protection and CMMC Consultant at Pivot Point Security. Join us as we discuss: Why CMMC scoping continues

Is Open Source the Future of Endpoint Security
Open source is a transparency issue. Being able to see what code is running on your computer — as well as what’s being monitored — gives you practically SaaS-level visibility across data, apps, and usage. In this episode, former open source developer Mike McNeil, CEO at Fleet Device Management, an open source company, talks with me about why open source is so imperative. Join us as we discuss: The
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