Nature vs Narcissism
Nature vs Narcissism is a true crime/comedy podcast based in Cincinnati, Ohio. Host Heather Wright and her guests discuss true crimes and the narcissists who commit them, often with alcohol involved. The podcast relaunched on its 4th PodBirthday in October 2021 with a new structure. Each episode is different and entertaining, exploring whether nature or narcissism drives criminals. It is strictly for entertainment and not a professional diagnosis.
Episodes
Ed Gein Wannabe? Jonathan Christ Gerlach w/Kelsey - Part 3
In Part 3 of our three-part series, we step back and look at the bigger picture; why this case was framed the way it was, what comparisons help clarify versus distort, and how investigators ultimately honed in on Jonathan Gerlach.After Part 1 established the headlines and charges, and Part 2 examined the investigation and the tension between fact and online speculation, this final episode focuses
Ed Gein Wannabe? Jonathan Christ Gerlach w/Kelsey - Part 2
In Part 2 of our three-part series, we move beyond the headlines and into the investigation itself; and just as importantly, into the space where verified facts collide with public assumption and social-media speculation.After Part 1 laid out what Jonathan Gerlach was charged with and how the story first broke, this episode slows things down. We examine what investigators actually knew, when they
Ed Gein Wannabe? Jonathan Christ Gerlach w/Kelsey - Part 1
In Part 1 of our three-part series, we begin where most people first encountered this case: the headlines.This episode breaks down what happened, what Jonathan Gerlach was charged with, and why this case immediately drew national attention. We move carefully through the facts; separating confirmed information from speculation, before briefly pulling back the curtain on what we currently know about
La Bestia Follow-up wCourtney (More about Colombia) - Part 2
On December 25th and 26th of 2025; we released a 2-parter on Luis Garavito (aka The Beast). Heather was joined by Cole (who suggested the disturbing case) to discuss Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, also known as La Bestia (The Beast), was a Colombian serial killer, pedophile, sex offender, and necrophile. Between 1992 and 1999, he sexually assaulted over 200 victims and is believed to have sexual
La Bestia Follow-up wCourtney (More about Colombia) - Part 1
On December 25th and 26th of 2025; we released a 2-parter on Luis Garavito (aka The Beast). Heather was joined by Cole (who suggested the disturbing case) to discuss Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, also known as La Bestia (The Beast), was a Colombian serial killer, pedophile, sex offender, and necrophile. Between 1992 and 1999, he sexually assaulted over 200 victims and is believed to have sexual
Luis Garavito (aka The Beast) with Cole - Part 2
⚠️ CONTENT WARNINGIf Part 1 was about how the warning signs were ignored, Part 2 is where the consequences become horrifyingly clear.This episode picks up where the slow burn ends; and where the true scale of the nightmare is revealed.Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, infamously known as La Bestia (The Beast), went on to become one of the most prolific serial killers in recorded history.Between 1992
Luis Garavito (aka The Beast) with Cole - Part 1
⚠️ CONTENT WARNING!!!!This episode discusses child sexual abuse, violence, and psychological instability. We avoid graphic detail, but the subject matter is inherently disturbing. Please listen with care!!!!In this episode, we’re opening the door to one of the most disturbing cases in true-crime history - and we’re starting at the beginning, where the warning signs were loud, constant, and tragica
The Archives - Karen Greenlee (wKelsey)
Karen Margaret Greenlee; born in 1958, was an apprentice embalmer in Sacramento, California who sexually assaulted over 40 deceased individuals. She called herself the “morgue rat”. She is considered as the "best-known modern practitioner of necrophilia", and her case was the subject of much research due to her sex as only ten percent of known necrophiles are women. The first 4 ½ minutes is an a
13 Days of Halloween - FINALE (Caleb, Ollie, Jason, Mack, & Heather)
FINALEAs part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 -
Crimetober Series - October 31 (Liske Family Murders)
Day 31 of the Crimetober Series is about the Liske family murders, which occurred on October 31, 2010.Sourceshttps://www.brainjet.com/random/1566961/crimes-committed-on-halloween/ http://www.sanduskyregister.com/story/201011220001https://www.wvnstv.com/digital-desk/infamous-halloween-murders/amp/ https://www.businessinsider.com/murders-halloween-night-2018-10 https://alabamabioclean.com/frightenin
Crimetober Series - October 30 (Martha Moxley's Murder)
Day 30 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of Martha Moxley, which occurred on October 30, 1975.Sourceshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Martha_Moxley https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-killed-martha-moxley/ https://www.oxygen.com/murder-and-justice-the-case-of-martha-moxley https://marthamoxley.com/ https://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/martha-moxley "Moxley Case: Who is Michael Ska
13 Days of Halloween (Puppaween)
PUPPAWEEN!!!As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we like to throw in some extra TREATS and give you fun episodes that are not all about eating things. For this episode, Heather & Becca brought in the DOGGOS!!!!! We wanted Gizmo, Luna Bear, and Rocket to try on Halloween costumes, eat some treats, and wear their cute little bandanas! ENJOY THE CHAOS OF CUTENESS!!!
Crimetober Series - October 29 (The Murder of Tina Marie Harmon)
Day 29 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of Tina Marie Harmon, which occurred on October 29, 1981.Sourceshttps://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-29-8563274bcf05 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Tina_Harmon https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7366324/tina_marie-harmon Renner, James (December 30, 2008). "Ghosts Of Wayne County Doubts Haunt An Old Murd
Crimetober Series - October 28 (Gloria Gonzales & The Texas Killing Fields)
Day 28 of the Crimetober Series is about the disappearance of Gloria Ann Gonzales, which occurred on October 28, 1971, and the other Texas Killing Fields’ victims. I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-28-da18ea0757e7 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33354927/gloria_ann-gonzales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Killing
Crimetober Series - October 27 (Fort Bragg Shooting)
Day 27 of the Crimetober Series is about the mass shooting at Fort Bragg, which occurred on October 27, 1995.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/13/us/paratrooper-sentenced-to-death-for-sniper-attack-at-fort-bragg.html https://www.army.mil/article-amp/18701/judge_sets_sentence_for_bragg_shooting_spree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kreutzer_Jr.https://www
13 Days of Halloween (Heather & Ollie_ Part 2)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
Crimetober Series - October 26 (The Murder of Sylvia Likens)
Day 26 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of 16-year-old Sylvia Likens which occurred on October 26, 1965.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sylvia_Likens https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-26-6faa834dc0a3 https://sylviascac.org/sylvias-story/ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/history/retroindy/2013/10/24/
Crimetober Series - October 25 (Gangster Albert Anastasia & John Carpenter's Halloween)
Day 25 of the Crimetober Series is a two-fer about the day that notorious gangster Albert Anastasia was killed, which occurred on October 25, 1957 and the day premiere of John Carpenter’s film ‘Halloween’, which occurred on October 25, 1978.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://www.thisdaytrivia.com/trivia/october-25 https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/59788/15-terrifying-facts-about-joh
13 Days of Halloween (Heather & Becca)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
Crimetober Series - October 24 (The Plane Almost Went Down)
Day 24 of the Crimetober Series is about the day that Joseph David Emerson almost took down an entire plane, which occurred on October 24, 2023.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/us/oregon-indictment-off-duty-pilot-engine-incident/index.html#:~:text=Off%2Dduty%20pilot%20Joseph%20D,a%20plane's%20engines%20mid%2Dflight.&text=Joseph%20Emerson%2C%20the%20Alaska%
13 Days of Halloween (Heather & Jake)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
Crimetober Series - October 23 (Doctor Slepian's Murder)
Day 23 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of Doctor Barnett Slepian’s murder which occurred on October 23, 1998.I apologize for the late release Sources https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/october-23-video https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/an-abortion-performing-doctor-is-murdered https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1169315/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/na
Crimetober Series - October 22 (Dr. Crippen Was Innocent)
Day 22 of the Crimetober Series is about the OJ Simpson case of 1910, in which the trial wrapped up on October 22, 1910. Dr. Crippen was hanged for a murder he did not commit.I apologize for the late releaseSourceshttps://thehistorypress.co.uk/article/the-notorious-case-of-dr-crippen/ http://news.msu.edu/media/documents/2011/01/3cda8882-265b-4282-9eba-a13d880f09a2.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wik
Crimetober Series - October 21 (Rust Film Shooting)
Day 21 of the Crimetober Series is about the “Rust” film shooting which occurred on October 21, 2021.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_shooting_incident https://www.nytimes.com/article/alec-baldwin-shooting-investigation.html https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-64824526 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rust-shooting-timeline-alec-baldwin-halyna-hutchins
Crimetober Series - October 20 (Anne Pressly's Beating & Death)
Day 20 of the Crimetober Series is about the brutal beating of Anne Pressly which occurred on October 20, 2008 and led to her eventual death.I apologize for the late release Sources https://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-20-5a31d2bb6742 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anchorwoman-anne-pressly-beaten-to-death-with-garden-tool-by-curtis-lavelle-vance-says-detective/ http
Crimetober Series - October 19 (DeLorean's Arrest)
Day 19 of the Crimetober Series is about the arrest of John Z DeLorean which occurred on October 19, 1982.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/john-z-delorean-is-arrested-in-24-million-cocaine-deal https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1359338/bio/ https://detroithistorical.org/learn/encyclopedia-of-detroit/delorean-john
13 Days of Halloween (Mack & Caleb)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
13 Days of Halloween (Heather & Courtney)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
13 Days of Halloween (Heather & Chelsea)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
Crimetober Series - October 18 (Balloon Boy Hoax)
Day 18 of the Crimetober Series is about the day that law enforcement determined that the Balloon Boy incident was a hoax which occurred on October 18, 2009.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/10-years-balloon-boy-family-denounce-idea-saucer/story?id=66604256 https://www.cpr.org/2020/12/23/colorado-balloon-boy-parents-pardoned-governor-polis/ https://en.wikipedi
Crimetober Series - October 17 (The Execution Date of Robert Roberson III)
Day 17 of the Crimetober Series is about the scheduled execution of Robert Roberson III, which was set for October 17, 2024. Please listen to the full episode for the update and to see how you can help!I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://innocenceproject.org/what-to-know-about-robert-roberson-on-texas-death-row-for-a-crime-that-never-occurred/ https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/us/robert
Crimetober Series - October 16 (Planned Parenthood, Birth Control, & Attacks)
Day 16 of the Crimetober Series is about the opening of the first Planned Parenthood which occurred on October 16, 1916.I apologize for the late release Sourceshttps://www.justice.gov/crt/recent-cases-violence-against-reproductive-health-care-providers https://kidskonnect.com/history-timeline/october/day-16/ https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/our-history https://www.history.com/
13 Days of Halloween (Heather & Ollie)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
13 Days of Halloween (Kim & Ollie)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
13 Days of Halloween (Kim & Chris)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
13 Days of Halloween (Kim's Art)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we like to throw in some extra TREATS and give you fun episodes that are not all about eating things. For this episode, Heather brought back her sister Kim for a special patreon-exclusive video where Kim showcases some of her artwork! You will get the audio on the main feed but the video is on Patreon only! So, sign up today!Where to find Kim:https://www.in
Crimetober Series - October 15 (Arthur Eggers' Execution)
Day 15 of the Crimetober Series is about the execution of Arthur Eggers which occurred on October 15, 1948*I apologize for the late release*Sourceshttps://www.historynet.com/today-in-history/october-15/ https://calisphere.org/item/ded131fbe62edc8222abb38fa01c3af7/ https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/132455604/dorothy-armand-eggers https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1794358.html
13 Days of Halloween (Jake & Becca)
As part of our 13 Days of Halloween - we added a series called Tricks N’ Treats! This series includes a video on Patreon where Heather and her guests blindly try weird/odd/different snacks and drinks. Each episode will include at least 3 snacks and at least 3 drinks that are rated on a scale of 1 (worst) to 6 (best). Each number in the scale is a particular Halloween candy. The Scale:6 - Reese’
Crimetober Series - October 14 (The Amityville Case)
Day 14 of the Crimetober Series is about the Amityville case; which the trial began on October 14, 1975.I apologize for the late releaseSourceshttps://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/trial-begins-in-amityville-murders https://www.biography.com/crime/the-real-amityville-horror-facts https://suntup.press/the-amityville-horror/ The Night the DeFeos Died: Reinvestigating the Amittyville Murders by
Crimetober Series - October 13 (Helen Claire Frost & Angela Marie Samota)
Day 13 of the Crimetober Series is about the disappearance of Helen Claire Frost that occurred on October 13, 1970 & the murder of Angela Marie Samota that occurred on October 13, 1984.Sourceshttps://vocal.media/criminal/the-disappearance-of-helen-claire-frost https://int-missing.fandom.com/wiki/Helen_Frost https://www.instagram.com/p/C8-pzKdSVpo/?img_index=1 https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2
Crimetober Series - October 12 (John Dillinger's Escape)
Day 12 of the Crimetober Series is about John Dillinger’s jail escape that occurred on October 12, 1933.**Oops! Heather had one job and she still messed it up! Sorry everyone! Heather traveled to Nashville for her birthday and forgot to schedule the week of October 7th’s episodes ahead of time! So, you’re getting this a tad late, but you’re still getting it!Sourceshttps://www.thisdaytrivia.com
Crimetober Series - October 11 (Sleepy Sickness & Nessie)
Day 11 of the Crimetober Series is about the plague known as “sleepy sickness”, with a connection to October 11, 1921 and the end of a search for the Loch Ness Monster that occurred on October 11, 1987.**Oops! Heather had one job and she still messed it up! Sorry everyone! Heather traveled to Nashville for her birthday and forgot to schedule the week of October 7th’s episodes ahead of time! So
Interview with the Author - Bruce LeMaster (The Wolf & The Killer: Volume 1) PART 2
BONUS EPISODE!!!!In this Bonus episode, Heather sits down with author Bruce LeMaster to discuss his recently released book “The Wolf & The Killer: Volume 1”. This was one of the most intriguing interviews that Heather has had on the show and can’t wait to hear your thoughts! Please be sure to let us know what you think of it and if you’ve read this book or ANY of Bruce’s books; we’d love to
Interview with the Author - Bruce LeMaster (The Wolf & The Killer: Volume 1) PART 1
BONUS EPISODE!!!!In this Bonus episode, Heather sits down with author Bruce LeMaster to discuss his recently released book “The Wolf & The Killer: Volume 1”. This was one of the most intriguing interviews that Heather has had on the show and can’t wait to hear your thoughts! Please be sure to let us know what you think of it and if you’ve read this book or ANY of Bruce’s books; we’d love to
Crimetober Series - October 9 & 10 (Zahra Clare Baker's Disappearance & Tragic Death)
Day 9 and 10 of the Crimetober Series is about the disappearance of Zahra Clare Baker that took place on October 9, 2010. And the arrest of her stepmother on October 10, 2010 - who would eventually be convicted of her murder. **Oops! Heather had one job and she still messed it up! Sorry everyone! Heather traveled to Nashville for her birthday and forgot to schedule the week of October 7th’s ep
Crimetober Series - October 8 (Martha Stewart's Sentencing Date)
Day 8 of the Crimetober Series is about Martha Stewart’s sentencing date that took place on October 8, 2004.**Oops! Heather had one job and she still messed it up! Sorry everyone! Heather traveled to Nashville for her birthday and forgot to schedule the week of October 7th’s episodes ahead of time! So, you’re getting this a tad late, but you’re still getting it!Sourceshttps://k1047.com/2021/10
Crimetober Series - October 7 (Al Capone's Tax Evasion Trial)
Day 7 of the Crimetober Series is about the beginning of Al Capone’s tax evasion trial that began on October 7, 1931.**Oops! Heather had one job and she still messed it up! Sorry everyone! Heather traveled to Nashville for her birthday and forgot to schedule the week of October 7th’s episodes ahead of time! So, you’re getting this a tad late, but you’re still getting it!Sourceshttps://billybir
Crimetober Series - October 6 (The Great Train Robbery)
Day 6 of the Crimetober Series is about the Great Train Robbery that occurred on October 6, 1866.Sourceshttps://www.loc.gov/item/today-in-history/october-06/ https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-u-s-train-robbery https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1866?amount=13000 https://pinkerton.com/our-story/history https://www.history.com/news/6-daring-train-robberies
Crimetober Series - October 5 (Tammy Corrine Terrell)
Day 5 of the Crimetober Series is about the discovery of Arroyo Grande Jane Doe, now known as the murder of 17-year-old Tammy Corrine Terrell that occurred on October 5, 1980.Sourceshttps://www.krqe.com/news/new-mexico/family-speaks-out-after-nevada-cold-case-victim-identified-as-new-mexico-teen/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tammy-terrell-identified-girl-found-dead-1980-nevada/ https://www.findagr
Crimetober Series - October 4 (Murder of Kimberly Cates)
Day 4 of the Crimetober Series is about the murder of Kimberly Cates that occurred on October 4, 2009.Sourceshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kimberly_Cateshttps://www.newspapers.com/image/853858247/?match=1&terms=Kimberly%20Cates https://www.montvernonnh.us/about https://www.newspapers.com/image/360224538/?match=1&terms=Kimberly%20Cates https://www.wmur.com/article/spader-issues-
Crimetober Series - October 3 (OJ Simpson's Acquittal)
Day 3 of the Crimetober Series is about OJ Simpson’s acquittal that occurred on October 3, 1995. Sourceshttps://popculturecrime.medium.com/today-in-true-crime-history-october-3-768517d421d8 https://wtop.com/back-in-the-day/2023/10/today-in-history-october-3-jury-finds-o-j-simpson-not-guilty-of-murder/ https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-oj-anniv-goldman-story.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-
Crimetober Series - October 2 (West Nickel Mines Amish School Shooting)
Day 2 of the Crimetober Series is about the West Nickel Mines Amish School shooting that occurred on October 2, 2006. TRIGGER WARNING - Discussion of SA and murder of children.Sourceshttps://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/02/amish-shooting-10-year-anniversary-pennsylvania-the-happening https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2021/10/tragedy-at-west-nickel-mines-amish-school-15-years-ago-girls-were-sh
Crimetober Series - October 1 (Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino Shooting)
Day 1 of the Crimetober Series is about the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino mass shooting that occurred on October 1, 2017. Sourceshttps://apnews.com/article/today-in-history-health-covid-las-vegas-mass-shooting-b9f79df10f908b5de7a1de9faf16aa1c https://www.newspapers.com/image/692248194/?match=1&terms=Mandalay%20Bay%20casino%20hotel%20shooting https://www.newspapers.com/image/878614628/?match=1
Fred & Rosemary West (Part 2)
Join Heather and Brittany in Part 2 of Fred & Rosemary West to see what their thoughts are on Nature, Nurture, and Narcissism. WHY did they commit these heinous crimes? Were they happy in this life together? Did they enjoy being someone else's nightmare? Had they never crossed paths; would they have committed such awful crimes?And what about Fred? Was he manipulating and grooming a child t
Fred & Rosemary West (Part 1)
TRIGGER WARNING - This episode involves torture, rape, and murder of children. Listener discretion is strongly advised.Between 1971 and 1987, Fred and Rosemary West abducted, sexually assaulted, tortured, and murdered at least 11 women and girls. Some believe that the number could actually be 30 or more. How did these two individuals decide to kill together? And in such a heinous way? Let’s go
Lady Killers (Martha Rendell) wKarah
In 1909, 38-year-old Perth, Australian Martha Rendell was tried, convicted, and executed for the murders of her three stepchildren. She was the last woman to be hanged in Western Australia. But how did she do it? And why wasn't she stopped?ALSO - just to remind you guys! The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival is happening in July 2024! We will be in Denver, Colorado from July 12th - 14t
Lady Killers (Jessica McCord) wKarah
Alabama mother Jessica and her ex-husband had a bitter divorce which led to an even more bitter custody battle over their children. In February of 2002, Jessica and her new husband took matters into their own hands by shooting and killing her ex-husband Alan G. Bates, and his new wife Terra Bates. McCord and her husband, former Pelham police officer Jeff Kelley McCord, were charged in the deaths
Lady Killers (Susan Lucille Wright) wKarah
Susan was an American murderer from Texas who made headlines in 2003 for stabbing her husband, Jeff Wright, 193 times in an act of matricide and then burying his body in their backyard. But what led to this heinous act of violence? And where is Susan now?ALSO - just to remind you guys! The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival is happening in July 2024! We will be in Denver, Colorado from J
Lady Killers (Julia Lynn Turner) wKarah
Turner, aka the “Antifreeze Killer” was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole on March 27, 2007 for the murder of her husband and later her estranged boyfriend. The circumstances surrounding their deaths were eerily similar and took the victim's mothers to bring forth their concerns for the GBI to dig a little deeper. Turner was found dead in prison on August 30, 2010. Much specul
Lady Killers (Misty Witherspoon) wKarah
Misty Witherspoon was sentenced to life in prison without parole on July 15, 2007 for the shooting death of her police officer husband, for his life insurance. After multiple stories portraying a series of improbable events, police realized that stuff just wasn't adding up and they needed to dig a bit deeper into what actually happened on that fateful day.Even after the proof showed Misty's guilt
Lady Killers (Anna Marie Hahn) wKarah
For those who have been listeners since the start of NVN, you know that the very first episode in 2017 was about Aileen Wuornos. But the recent episodes provide a lot more depth and offer details that we found through documentaries and books that were in Aileen’s words. This truly changed my perspective on the person she was. This made me want to look more into other female killers (some we’ve
Marie Alexandrine Becker (Part 1 & Part 2)
Marie Alexandrine Baker was classified as a serial killer who would rob and poison her victims in Belgium. Marie began killing at 55 years old, in 1932 and was apprehended in 1936. In the span of 4 years, Marie killed at least 10 people, including her husband, a male lover, and many female customers. For her crimes, Marie was sentenced to life in prison in 1936, only to die 2 years later in 194
Aileen Wuornos (Part 2)
Join Heather and Brittany in Part 2 of Aileen Wuornos to see what their thoughts are on Nature, Nurture, and Narcissism. WHY did Aileen do what she did? Why did she behave so erratically? COULD she have stopped killing? Could she ever have actual remorse for her actions? Did she truly believe that she was the target of government conspiracies? What was going on in that head of hers?And what about
Aileen Wuornos (Part 1)
The Monster. The Damsel of Death. Infamously referred to as the first female serial killer. At five feet, four inches tall and 137 pounds; a transient sex worker who took the lives of 7 men in several acts of self-defense, according to her. But how could this be possible? Aileen aka Lee, was all love, at one time, stating quote “Too bad society has me all wrong, from all the cop lies and defamatio
Spooktober Series: The Ohio State Reformatory & Infamous Inmates (Mansfield, Ohio) wKarah
HaPpY hAlLoWeEn!!!!!!Heather is back and has a brand new guest; KARAH!!!! Heather and Karah bring you this final Spooktober Series episode of 2023's spooky season and that's because it's one of our favorite HAUNTS! Heather and Karah share all the details about the Ohio State Reformatory in Mansfield, Ohio. We delve into the nitty gritty details of the construction of the prison as well as pop cult
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Heather and Courtney bring you this Spooktober Series episode about a the Old Ohio State Penitentiary in Columbus, Ohio! Join us as we discuss several notable inmates who once called this prison their home. Additionally, we will discuss what sits on the old prison land and some of the spooky happenings that have been reported. SourcesKlockow, Kat. (2016). Ohio's Haunted Crimes: An Exploration of T
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Spooktober Series: Ryan's Tavern in Little Chicago (Hamilton, Ohio) wKelsey
Heather and Kelsey bring you this Spooktober Series episode about a local spot to us; Ryan's Tavern in Hamilton, Ohio! Join us on this little adventure regarding the history of and paranormal experiences that people have encountered at the Tavern!SourcesKlockow, Kat. (2016). Ohio's Haunted Crimes: An Exploration of Ten Haunted Crime Scenes. Schiffer Publishing Ltd.
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Heather and Kelsey bring you this Spooktober Series episode about an Old Haunted Jail; the Old Licking County Jail in Newton, Ohio! Join us on this little adventure regarding the history of, infamous inmates and event, as well as paranormal experiences that people have encountered at the jail!SourcesKlockow, Kat. (2016). Ohio's Haunted Crimes: An Exploration of Ten Haunted Crime Scenes. Schiffer
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