
Gospel Chats
On this podcast our hosts will wrestle with topics pertaining to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In their raw, unscripted, and real way, Ryan and Marshall try to model what it looks like to ask, seek, and knock.
Episodes

Rock of Heaven
One of the titles of Jesus Christ is “the rock”, but the scriptures actually describe Him as several different types of rock. In this episode we probe four of the rocks and what they can teach us about His Atonement and how we come unto Him.

Introverts & the Kingdom of God
It wouldn’t be hard to think that the church is meant for extroverts, and that introverts need to change, but that would be a huge mistake. In this episode we chat about making space for all personalities and focusing more on Christ-like character as the goal.

The Power of Priesthood Blessings
Those who believe in the Restoration of the Gospel boldly claim that God’s Priesthood has been restored to the earth, but are we accessing the power of that priesthood enough? In this episode we chat about relying too little and too much on priesthood blessings, the role of faith, and importance of understanding God’s will.

The Garment of the Holy Priesthood
The history of the temple garment is fascinating, the promises connected to the garment are breathtaking, and the lack of understanding surrounding this topic is real. In this episode we explore some of the reasons to love and honor the Garment of the Holy Priesthood.

Okay Boomer
A choice to ignore the counsel of older people led to the separation of the House of Israel. In this episode we chat about the wisdom that can come with age, the benefits of having mentors with experience, and how we can better bridge spiritual generation gaps.

Convenient or Covenant?
Two hundred years of history and thousands of lives were affected by something called “the sin of Jeroboam.” At the heart of that sin was a group of people who chose convenience over consecration. In this episode we explore the consequences and blessings of that choice.

I Don't Belong
Belonging is a beautiful thing, but in some ways we were never meant to belong in this fallen world. In this chat we wrestle with the scriptural concept of “pilgrims” and their journey not to belong.

Inspired Teaching
Inspired teachers do some things before, during, and after class that can make a huge difference. We continue to share a few principles that have profoundly affected our teaching.

Real Teaching
People want to feel inspired and motivated in gospel classrooms, so how do we teach in a way that is real, powerful, and relevant? That’s our wrestle in this episode.

100 Sheep
For our 100th episode we wanted to talk about 100 different sheep. We wrestle with who the real Shepherd is, the Lord’s awareness of the 99 and the one, and how we really gather other sheep.

My Jesus
How does the Jesus we read about in scripture become, as Nephi once wrote, “my Jesus”? In this episode we chat about bridging the gap between believing in Jesus Christ and really having an intimate connection to Him.

The Light of Christ
Understanding the doctrine of the Light of Christ can and should change us. This universal influence gives life, light and law to the universe.

The Myth of Socially Acceptable Sins
The is a difference between worthiness and godliness. In this episode we chat about the danger in thinking some sins are not a big deal, and how we can more fully in live in a way where we deeply need Jesus Christ.

The Gift of Discomfort
Discomfort can feel like anything but a gift; but the Lord seems to do some of His best work in our discomfort. So how do we embrace the idea of discomfort in a humble and positive way?

The Gift of Discernment
In this episode we discuss the gift of discernment and how it helps us detect hidden evil and hidden good within others and within ourselves.

The Tongue of Angels
Words matter…a lot! In this episode we wrestle with the topics of vulgarity, gossip, and the spiritual gift of speaking with the tongue of angels.

Possessed of Charity
Must of us know that charity is extremely important, but struggle to show “the pure love of Christ” in all that we do. In this episode we explore charity as love we feel FROM Christ, love we develop FOR Christ, and then a gift we receive to love others LIKE Christ. When charity flows in that order everything starts to change.

Knowing Christ Through His Church
In this episode we wrestle with a question from the parable of the ten virgins: Do we know both “the bride” (Christ’s church) and “the bridegroom” (Jesus Christ)? Coming to know the Savior seems to be the major point of the parable, and the Church is meant to serve that purpose.

Is it Me? Is it God? Or is it Deception?
Revelation is beautiful, and, revelation can be tricky. In this episode we chat about deceptive spirits, emotions being mistaken as revelation, and overinterpreting promptings. If we’ll ask the right questions, we can find our way through these pitfalls and into God’s light.

Be Still
In a fast-paced world, and in a Church that wants to help “hasten the work,” it’s hard to slow down, be still and rest. But in this episode we chat about the divine principle of rest and how it can enhance our ability to connect with God.

Your Liahona: Your Patriarchal Blessing
The Liahona was a miraculous tool God used to guide, bless, and teach Lehi’s family. In this episode we chat about how we could more fully use a Patriarchal Blessing just like the Liahona to receive guidance, confidence, and understanding throughout our entire lives.

Intimate Souvenirs from Hell
Because God loves us, He asks us to let go of things, and some of those things are not necessarily sins. In this episode we chat about the souvenirs from hell, reality, joy, and really coming to know God.

Fiercely Faithful
Elder Uchtdorf said that “faith is our loyalty to Jesus Christ”. In this episode we lean into that definition more fully to try and discover what changes when faith is about faithfulness and loyalty not just beliefs.

The God Who Sees
There is so much going on in Abraham and Sarah’s story that we could almost miss the
messy and beautiful story of Hagar. In this episode we chat about a woman who is broken,
covenants available to all, and The God Who Sees

The Spirit World
Restoration scripture like the Doctrine and Covenants and the Book of Mormon add so much to our understanding of the Spirit World, yet, there is still so much we don’t know. In this episode we wrestle with what we know, what we don’t know, and how the Spirit World testifies of God’s perfect, relentless love.

God's Wrath
Throughout scripture we encounter references to God’s wrath and anger. In this episode we wrestle with questions about the meaning of “righteous anger” and how it applies to both God and us.

The Fires of Temptation
Is temptation a bad thing? How should I feel about being tempted? What can a perfect Savior teach me about temptation? Could temptation be a catalyst to turn me to Christ? These were some of our questions in this episode about temptation and fire.

Healed by Grace
The spiritual and emotional wounds we experience in mortality can be filled with bitterness and anger or healed by the balm of Christ’s grace. In this episode we try to better understand the healing and compensating grace of Jesus Christ.

Strengthened by Grace
So many of our struggles in life come in the form of weakness—not sin—but the limitations and frustrations that come with being mortal. In this episode we explore the strengthening and enabling grace of Jesus Christ, and how to better access it day by day.

Sanctified by Grace
The justifying grace of Jesus Christ saves us from sin, and His sanctifying grace can then purify us of sinfulness. The Savior doesn’t just want to SAVE us, He also wants to CHANGE us. To access this dimension of grace we need “to offer our whole souls” piece by piece.

Justified by Grace
This is the first episode in a four-part series on the Grace of Jesus Christ. We start with justifying grace which allows us to be clean, forgiven, worthy, and perfect IN Christ every single day IF make and remain in the baptismal covenant.

God's Gift of Failure
It’s easy to feel like we are failing at school, at work, in callings, in our families, etc. In this episode we chat about the gift that failure can be if we view it through the perspective of God’s Fabulous Plan. Maybe we’re not failing and falling, we’re just learning and progressing.

Is Jesus God?
More than ever, traditional Christians are asking members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whether they believe Jesus is God. In this episode we give the scriptural answer to that question and discuss how important it is that we both believe and understand the answer.

Growing in a Perfect Brightness of Hope
In this chat we wrestle with two complimentary truths; 1. God wants us to experience divine discontent AND 2. God wants us to experience a perfect brightness of hope. How do we hold these two truths together, what happens when we only focus on one, and what does it feel like live in the middle of both?

Is God Happy?
Sometimes we get this picture in our heads that God lives in a constant state of happiness and doesn’t experience any pain, grief, or sadness. In this episode we explore what we know doctrinally about God’s range of emotions and what it can teach us about Him and ourselves.

Thou Shalt Not Covet
In this episode we address questions like: Why do some scriptures classify coveting as a sin, while others urge us to covet? What does coveting look like in our lives? How does obeying the tenth commandment keep us safe from hurting ourselves?

Thou Shalt Not Steal or Lie
The eighth and ninth commandments seem to be linked together by the principle of honesty. In this episode we chat about the slippery, satanic slope of selfish dishonesty, and the higher, holier journey to loving truth the way God loves it.

Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery (or Lust)
In this episode we chat about the consequences of adultery, the protection of the Law of Chastity, cleaving to our spouses and none else, being fiercely loyal, and much more.

Thou Shalt Not Kill (Or be Angry)
In this episode we dive into the sixth commandment including the difference between murder and killing, the Savior’s teaching about avoiding anger, cherishing life, abortion, and more.

Honor Thy Father & Thy Mother
What does it mean to “honor” our father and mother? What if parents aren’t living worthy of honor? And how does this 5th commandment connect with the larger vision of eternal families and Eternal Life? These are a few of the questions we wrestle with in this episode.

Keep the Sabbath Day Holy
In this chat we share thoughts about the Creation, the Passover, and Christ’s Atonement, and how each of those events are connected to the Sabbath Day. We also wrestle with how to really make the Sabbath a delight in our lives.

The Lord's Name in Vain
How we take the Lord’s name on our lips matters, and “taking His name” entails much more than words. In today’s chat we wrestle with the concepts of profanity, shallow covenant making, and irreverent “discipleship”—all things connected to the third commandment.

No Gods Before Me
The first commandment seems to be first for a reason. In this episode we wrestle with the God’s purpose for the first and second commandments, how we can keep them today, and what happens in our lives when we do.

The Cross
What are our beliefs regarding the symbol of the cross? And could certain feelings about the symbol of the cross keep us away from a deeper and fuller appreciation of Jesus Christ’s Atonement? These are some of the questions we wrestle with in this episode.

Intimacy in Dating
What is appropriate when it comes to physical intimacy in a dating relationship? In this episode we chat about that, the doctrine of the soul, connections between physical and emotional intimacy, and a lot more.

Always Remember Him
The Sacrament can be, and should be, such a sacred ritual in our lives. In this chat we probe scriptural insights and prophetic teachings that can increase the power of the Lord’s Supper in our lives.

Rooted In Christ
Most people have heard the parable of the wheat and the tares but is there more there than we think? In this episode, we chat about God’s reasons for leaving the tares and what that might mean for us collectively and individually.

Peacemaking: Choosing the Third Option
Peacemaking seems to mean more than merely avoiding contention. In this episode we chat about our natural tendency to choose either “fight or flight” when we encounter conflict, and a pattern of choosing a morally creative third option instead.

Foolishness
The Savior and church leaders have warned about foolishness, but why? Is foolishness really a big deal? In this chat we wrestle with what foolishness means, what it looks like, why it’s an important topic, and how to gain the gift of true wisdom.

Endless is His Name
D&C 19 is one of the most fascinating passages we have in scripture. We use that section as the backdrop for this episode as we wrestle with questions about repentance, God’s nature, Christ’s suffering, Eternal punishment and whether or not God really “punishes” sinners.

Who Should I Marry?
Who, when, and where to marry are some of the most important decisions we’ll ever make. In this chat we wrestle with principles related to dating, marriage, revelation and agency.

Leave, Cleave & Be One: Temple Sealing
In this episode we chat about what we know from scripture about temple sealings and how to make a marriage truly celestial.

Embraced by God: Temple Endowment
Anciently, and in our day, the temple symbolically represents a journey back into God’s presence. In this chat we discuss The Day of Atonement, symbols of the tabernacle, praying with uplifted hands, conversing with the Lord at the veil, and being encircled in His arms.

Clothed & Consecrated: Temple Endowment
In this episode we chat about the sacred, ritual clothing worn by temple priests and what it really meant to be “consecrated” in their service. Hopefully this conversation unlocks powerful truths for those who have been endowed in the House of the Lord, and excites those who are preparing for that experience.

The Temple Initiatory: Washed, Anointed, and Clothed in Christ
In this chat we explore the initiation rites of old testament priests in an effort to better understand the washing, anointing, and clothing rituals in the modern-day temple endowment.

Your Endowment: Your Coronation
One of the most profound, yet misunderstood, blessings of the Savior’s gospel is the Temple Endowment. In this episode we chat about different themes that can dramatically increase our understanding and appreciation of the endowment ceremony.

Receiving Spiritual Gifts
Could something we see as a curse actually be a gift? Can we develop spiritual gifts that are not natural to us? Are spiritual gifts different than talents? These are some of the questions we wrestle with as we explore the topic of spiritual gifts.

I Have a Mother There
Believing in a Heavenly Mother is a “distinctive and cherished doctrine” in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, according to the gospel topic essay, but is it a doctrine we could cherish more? In this chat we explore what we know about our Mother in Heaven and why it matters.

The Lord is my Song
Is singing in the church a cultural thing or something more? In this episode we dive into the scriptures to uncover the purposes and power of music in our worship.

Compete or Cooperate
So much of our culture is built on competition—but is competition a good thing? Is it something a disciple of Christ should embrace? In this episode we wrestle with competition, stories in the scriptures that always link competition with pride, and the possibility of replacing all competitive frameworks with a spirit of cooperation.

The Lord's Timing - Wait & Hope
What do we mean when we say “the Lord’s timing” and how do we patiently and faithfully embrace that principle? In this episode we wrestle with timing, agency, faith, and active waiting.

Letter of the Law AND Spirit of the Law
We often pit “the letter of the law” against “the spirit of the law”. Doing this causes contention, judgment, rationalization, and a host of other problems. What if one is not better than the other, what if the key to discipleship is holding on to BOTH?!

Modesty Matters!
Some of our conversations about modesty become pretty narrow, and we argue about hemlines and bare midriffs, but modesty entails much more than our clothing. In this episode we wrestle with the deeper issue of modesty and how to applies to how we talk, think, act, and dress.

My Divine Identity - My Authentic Self
President Nelson spoke to the young adults about understanding their divine identity and three key identifiers that should never be displaced or replaced. In this chat we lean into those three identifiers and the clarity they bring into our lives in this confusing world.

Complaining: A Great Way to Ruin your Life
Complaining about life, and situations, and people can come so naturally, but maybe that’s the problem. In this episode we wrestle with the roots and fruits of complaining, discuss the possibility of “righteous complaining,” and try to understand how to not give our precious agency away.

A Different Kind of Confidence
Is self-confidence essential to a happy and successful life? In this episode we dive into the scriptures and words of church leaders to learn more about confidence, where we place it, and how to receive more of it.

The Spirit of Prophecy
Sometimes we limit our spiritual understanding based off of our definition of a word. In this episode we wrestle with the word “prophet” and explore the gifts all covenant-keepers can access to prophecy.

Blind Faith or BIG Faith?
The terms “blind faith” and “blind obedience” are used as pejoratives by non-believers, and at times by other believers. In this episode we wrestle with the concept of faith and whether it springs out of blindness or actually seeing evidence that others dismiss.

Holiness More Than Healthiness
A lot of Word of Wisdom conversations center around what is and isn’t good for our bodies, but in this episode we wrestle with maybe more important spiritual principles connected to this commandment.

Odds Are, You're Going to Be Exalted
Many are convinced that they, and most others, won’t ever be righteous enough to live in God’s presence. But our Heavenly Father’s plan is more hopeful and effective than most people realize. In this episode we chat about what we know about exaltation and God’s intent for each of His children.

All Things New
President Howard W. Hunter said that “the doctrine of the Resurrection is the single most fundamental and crucial doctrine in the Christian religion. It cannot be overemphasized.” Do we undervalue the Resurrection? In this episode we wrestle with that question, and what happens when we focus on the Resurrection now and in the future.

Worth & Worthiness
We can run into some serious issues when we confuse our worth with our worthiness. In this chat we try to define both worth and worthiness, how they’re different, and how we can understand both in more hopeful ways. *This is a repost because this episode got deleted by accident*

Trusting God when Everything Goes Wrong
It’s one thing to believe that God can bless us, but what do we do when it doesn’t seem like those blessings are coming? In today’s chat we wrestle with topics of faith, trust, trials, and enduring well.

Bodies: Blessing or Curse?
In today’s conversation we chat about bodies. Too often we either view our bodies as negative things to despise or as an idols to worship. What does our doctrine teach us that should transform the way we view and engage with our bodies?

Freedom Through Slavery
Is there is difference between giving service and being a servant? Is there a way that being a slave could be a faith-strengthening thing? In today’s chat we wrestle with these questions.

Faithful Fear
There is a common saying that “faith and fear cannot exist in the same person at the same time.” We wrestle with that statement in this chat, and discuss healthy fear, destructive fear, and how “perfect love casts out fear.”

Inspired, Mortal Prophets
When God inspires prophets, it seems like He often gives them the vision of “what” needs to be accomplished, but allows them a lot of agency to figure out “how” to accomplish it. In today’s chat we wrestle with the beauty and messiness of ordained, inspired, mortal prophets.

Joyful Fasting
The title for this episode might sound like an oxymoron, but in the D&C, Jesus Christ connects fasting with joy and rejoicing. So how do we fast in a more joyful way—in the Lord’s way? And could true fasting be the key to overcoming any bad habit, addiction, or obstacle in our life?

Can we Talk About Satan?
Satan is not our favorite thing to talk about, but it is important that we understand who he is, how he works, and what his true desires are. In today’s chat we wrestle with the differences between our Accuser (Satan) and our Advocate (Jesus Christ).

My Relationship With the Godhead
We believe that the Godhead is comprised of three, distinct individuals, but sometimes it is hard to know how to connect with each of Them. Today we wrestle with ways we can experience blessings from each member of the Godhead.
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