
The Engineering Room with Dave Farley
The Engineering Room with Dave Farley is a podcast that explores the world of software development through conversations between host Dave Farley and influential experts. The show focuses on topics like Continuous Delivery, software quality, and best practices in the industry. Listeners can expect insights into achieving excellence in software engineering.
Episodes

Can AI replace software architects? | Sam Newman In The Engineering Room Ep. 46
Sam Newman is the author of "Building Microservices" and "Monolith to Microservices", two of the most influential books on distributed systems design. He is an independent consultant and former ThoughtWorks technologist, he has spent decades helping organizations worldwide decompose monoliths, adopt cloud and CI/CD practices, and reason clearly about service boundaries. He is one of the most recog

Using AI Agents To TRULY INCREASE Software Engineering Productivity | David Yanacek In The Engineering Room Ep. 45
Hosted by Dave Farley - co-author of Continuous Delivery (Jolt Award winner), author of Modern Software Engineering, and inventor of the Deployment Pipeline.David Yanacek is a Senior Principal Engineer at AWS and a lead advisor on the Agentic AI team, having played a foundational role in the development of DynamoDB and CloudWatch. He is currently a primary driver behind the Kiro IDE and Amazon’s o

Better Software Architecture Thanks To TDD | Steve Freeman In The Engineering Room Ep. 44
Join Dave Farley — co-author of Continuous Delivery (Jolt Award winner), author of Modern Software Engineering, and inventor of the CD Deployment Pipeline - and guest Steve Freeman in this fascinating episode. Steve is a pioneer of the software craftsmanship movement and a foundational figure in the global Agile community. He is the co-author of the seminal book Growing Object-Oriented Software, G

The Meaning Of TRUE Engineering Leadership | Dan Abel In The Engineering Room Ep. 43
In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley welcomes Dan Abel, a veteran technical leader with over 30 years of experience, to explore the nuances of engineering leadership and the evolution of high-performing teams.This episode is a masterclass in dismantling silos, reducing cognitive load through platform engineering, and aligning technical excellence with core business values.---------

Understanding The Value of AI Coding | Gene Kim In The Engineering Room Ep. 42
In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley talks with with Gene Kim, the bestselling author of "The Phoenix Project," "The Unicorn Project," and "Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps." They discuss the controversial topic of "Vibe Coding," a concept Gene explored in his recent collaboration with Steve Yegge. While Dave initially described Vibe Coding as "one of the worst i

The Myth of the 10x Engineer | Charity Majors In The Engineering Room Ep. 41
What does it truly take to build a high-performing software team? Is it about hiring the legendary "10x engineer," or is it about crafting the right environment?In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley is joined by Charity Majors, CTO and Co-founder of Honeycomb and co-author of Observability Engineering, for an unvarnished look at the reality of modern software development.-----------

The 3 Golden Rules Of Distributed Systems | Sam Newman In The Engineering Room Ep. 40
In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley speaks with Sam Newman, renowned author of "Building Microservices" and "Monolith to Microservices," about distributed systems, architectural decisions, and the future of software development.-------------------------Sam Newman on "X" (formerly "Twitter"): https://x.com/samnewman?lang=en📖 "Building Microservices" 1st Ed., Sam Newman: https://sam

The Origins Of Behaviour Driven Development (BDD) | Dan Terhorst-North In The Engineering Room Ep. 39
Join Dave Farley in conversation with Daniel Terhorst-North, the creator of Behavior-Driven Development (BDD) and pioneering voice in agile software development. In this wide-ranging discussion,Dan shares insights from his time at ThoughtWorks, where he helped establish many practices now considered standard in modern software engineering.Whether you're interested in improving your development pra

How Norway’s Banking Engineers Deliver 35M Requests a Day with Confidence | The Engineering Room Ep. 38
In this episode, Dave Farley explores how SpareBank One transformed their software development approach with Ola Hast (Developer) and Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom (Senior Developer). Working at Norway's second-largest banking alliance serving 1.2 million users, they reveal how pair programming became absolutely essential to achieving true continuous delivery.------------------------The Engineering Room

Why The US Army Is Teaching Its Soldiers To Code | Matthew Flautt & Jeff Day From The Army Software Factory Ep. 37
In this conversation, Dave Farley explores the innovative Army Software Factory with Matt Flautt (CTO) and Jeff Day (Chief of Platform). They reveal how the U.S. Army is building an internal software development capability by training soldiers—many without prior coding experience—to become proficient developers through rigorous training and pair programming practices.This episode will be of intere

Why Traditional Software Development Approaches Struggle In The Modern Day | Diana Montalion In The Engineering Room Ep. 36
In this engaging conversation with Diana Montalion - former principal systems architect at The Economist and Wikimedia Foundation, and author of "Learning Systems Thinking" - we explore why traditional software development approaches are struggling to keep up with modern system complexity.Diana shares insights from her extensive experience building large-scale information systems, explaining how r

The Software Industry's Evolution, Complex Architecture & Problem-Solving At Scale | Michael Nygard In The Engineering Room Ep. 35
Join Dave Farley and Michael Nygard, former Chief Scientist at Sabre and current leader in Global Platforms at Nubank, for an illuminating discussion on modern software architecture and data systems. They explore how data mesh solutions enable incremental problem-solving at scale, and why traditional software engineering principles like modularity and separation of concerns remain crucial even as

The Evolution Of Programming & What The Future Holds | Holly Cummins In The Engineering Room Ep. 34
In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley speaks with Holly Cummins, Senior Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat, about the evolving landscape of software development. They explore whether programming is getting harder, discussing how abstraction levels have changed while core problem-solving skills remain essential. Holly shares insights on AI's role in different programming contexts

The Birth Of Microservices & It’s Impacts | James Lewis In The Engineering Room Ep. 33
In this insightful episode of "The Engineering Room," join us as we explore the world of software engineering with James Lewis, a prominent figure in microservices and software architecture. Explore the origins and evolution of microservices, the importance of domain boundaries, and the distinction between microservices and distributed monoliths. Discover how generative science and engineering pri

Extreme Programming, Pair Programming Challenges & MORE | Dragan Stepanovic In The Engineering Room Ep. 32
Join us in the latest episode of "The Engineering Room," a monthly series featuring long-form discussions with influential figures in software development. In this episode, Dave talks with Dragan Stepanović, a principal engineer renowned for his efforts to evolve engineering cultures and eliminate bottlenecks. Dragan shares his journey in extreme programming (XP), emphasizing its profound impact o

How We Made Minecraft Using Continuous Delivery | Henry Golding In The Engineering Room Ep. 31
Join us in this episode of "The Engineering Room" as Dave explores the intricate relationship between continuous delivery, automated testing, and agile software development in the gaming industry. Dave's special guest, Henry Golding, shares his extensive experience as an engineering leader and consultant, with a background in pioneering continuous delivery on projects like Microsoft's "Sea of Thie

How Leadership Affects Software Quality, Large-Scale Agile & MORE | Gary Gruver In The Engineering Room Ep. 30
Welcome Gary Gruver in this episode of The Engineering Room!Gary is an experienced executive and consultant known for transforming software development and delivery processes in large organisations. He discusses his journey, starting with his impactful work as the R&D director for the HP LaserJet firmware team, where he led productivity improvements of 2-3 times, and later as an independent co

DORA, Measuring Software ROI & Choosing The Right Metrics | Dr. Nicole Forsgren In The Engineering Room Ep. 29
In this episode of the Engineering Room, we are pleased to welcome Dr. Nicole Forsgren. Dr. Forsgren is is an American technology executive, IT impact expert, and author. She joins Dave to talk about software developer productivity metrics, DORA, her part in one of the most impactful industry leading book's “accelerate”, her predictions for the future of software engineering under the influence of

Expectations And Limitations Of AI-Assisted Software Engineering | Birgitta Böckeler In The Engineering Room Ep. 28
Birgitta Böckeler is a software engineer, consultant and thought leader. In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave & Birgitta talk about her most recent work involving AI-assisted software delivery. They discuss tough questions regarding the job market for developers, the challenges and potential downsides of AI in software development, while also discussing the positives these new technol

Spotify's Strong Ownership Model, Fleet Management & "Golden Technologies | Niklas Gustavsson In The Engineering Room Ep. 27
In this episode, Dave Farley and Niklas Gustavsson, Chief Architect and VP of Engineering at Spotify, discuss the facets of Spotify's software development and operational strategies, discussing the company's unique approach to organising software development, notably through Fleet Management.Dave and Niklas discuss how to overcome common misconceptions and anti-patterns associated with microservic

Developer Productivity ISN'T About Measurement | Trisha Gee In The Engineering Room Ep. 26
Trisha Gee joins Dave to talk about developer productivity. What are the keys to creating an environment for software engineers to feel positive and happy while being at their most productive? Can we really measure developer productivity? Let's find out!xx🙏The Engineering Room series is SPONSORED BY EQUAL EXPERTSEqual Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,0

How AI Will Change Software Development In The Next 10 Years | Eric Evans In The Engineering RoomEp. 25
What does the future of software development look like? How will AI shape software engineer jobs? In this episode of the Engineering Room podcast, Dave is joined by author, software engineer and well-known thought leader, Eric Evans. They talk about Eric's background, domain-driven design, artificial intelligence and what the next 10 years look like for the software industry with the emergence of

Platform Strategies & Platform Engineering | Gregor Hohpe In The Engineering Room Ep. 24
Gregor Hohpe. is a world-class expert on software architecture and the role of the architect, he is a technologist and expert on the topics of large-scale systems and the public Cloud as well as lots of other stuff. Gregor is currently part of the Serverless team working as an Enterprise Strategist for Amazon at AWS, Previously he was Technical Director in the Office of the CTO at Google, an

Prioritizing Technical Debt To Identify RED CODE | Adam Tornhill In The Engineering Room Ep. 23
Adam Tornhill is an author including of the best selling book, “Your Code as a Crime Scene” as well as multiple other technical books. Adam is a speaker on the international conference circuit. He's the founder and CTO of CodeScene where he designs tools for code analysis. In this Engineering Room episode, Dave Farley and Adam explore working with and prioritising technical debt, how to identify t

In Depth BDD & Contributing To Cucumber | Seb Rose In The Engineering Room Ep. 22
Seb Rose is a Consultant, coach, trainer, analyst, and developer and an organiser of some of the UK’s best software conferences. His name is closely associated with BDD, he is a contributor to the Cucumber open source project, which is one of the most widely used frameworks for BDD, and has written several books on this, and other software topics, including the “BDD Books” series, “Cucumber for Ja

All Things AUTOMATED TESTING | Specialist Emily Bache In The Engineering Room Ep. 21
Emily Bache is a consultant & coach who specialises in automated testing and agile methodology. In this episode of the Engineering Room, she sits down with Dave Farley to talk about her software philosophies, test driven development, approval testing AND MORE.xxEqual Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally.

“Industry Changing Book” | Jez Humble & Dave Reflect On Continuous Delivery In the Engineering Room Ep. 20
Jez Humble joins Dave Farley in the podcast episode where they discuss writing the award-winning book 'Continuous Delivery' - Jez' goal was to stop people wasting time by doing the wrong things, and showing people a better way of working so they don't have to spend their evenings and weekends to release new software! Dave and Jez share views on a divided SW industry, the real identity of a softwar

The Code Behind HUGE Trading Platforms | Frank Yu In The Engineering Room Ep. 19
Today's Guest Frank Yu is an engineering leader at Coinbase, focusing on distributed low latency trading platforms. In some ways the development in ultra-low-latency trading systems is analogous to Formula 1 Car racing. These people push the boundaries of what is possible in software, and sometimes hardware, to squeeze out every last ounce of performance. Code for trading though is not esoteric, o

Agile, Waterfall, TDD & MORE | Dave Thomas (Prag Dave) In The Engineering Room Ep. 18
Dave Thomas joins Dave Farley in the "Engineering Room" to talk about agile vs waterfall, how software developers ought to look at software testing and gets deep into some of the interesting edges of programming, like algebraic effects, state and immutability and implementing monadic do blocks.Dave Thomas a.k.a. Prag Dave, is one of the authors of the influential software engineering book 'The Pra

The Poor Standard Of Teaching In Computer Science | Aino Corry In The Engineering Room Ep. 17
Aino Corry is an agile expert, a teacher and a consultant. She is an expert on how teams work, and how to help them to do better. She is also an extremely popular public speaker with a wickedly dry sense of humour. Aino has been a prolific conference organiser and has been involved in selecting the content for some of the worlds major software conferences over many years, including GOTO, YOW! and

The FIRST Testing Frameworks, TDD, Waterfall & MORE | Kent Beck In The Engineering Room Ep. 16
In this episode of the Engineering Room, Dave Farley and Kent Beck have a wide-ranging discussion about the return of waterfall development in software, TDD, Software Design and lots of other things along the way. Kent Beck is the first signatory of the Agile Manifesto. He is the author of the industry-changing book "Extreme Programming Explained". Kent popularised Continuous Integration and TDD a

How Software Architects Transform Large Enterprises | Gregor Hohpe In The Engineering Room Ep. 15
Gregor Hohpe, author of "Enterprise Integration Patterns", talks to Dave Farley about software architecture and how architects can transform businesses. They chat about: Gregor's current role and work with AWS (Amazon Web Services), the challenge of finding new architectural models in the cloud, "Gregor's Law" AND MORE! Thanks to Gregor for joining Dave on this episode of the Engineering Room. xxJ

Systems Theory For Software Engineering | Jessica Kerr In The Engineering Room Ep. 14
Jessica Kerr talks to Dave Farley about a bunch of topics ranging from cybernetics, to systems theory, complex adaptive systems and the importance of data visualisation to observability. Jessica, known by many as @jessitron is Engineering Manager of Dev Relations at Honeycomb, a well known speaker and a symmathecist in the medium of code - which she describes as seeing development teams as learnin

Kubernetes & Cloud Computing | Kelsey Hightower In The Engineering Room Ep. 13
Kelsey is a pioneer in cloud computing and has led many advances in the implementation and adoption of cloud based software. He is a significant contributor to open source software, involved in many incredibly popular open source projects, including, but not limited to Kubernetes. Kelsey not only helped implement Kubernetes, but also helped to promote and spread its adoption and to build the commu

Team Topologies, Cognitive Load & Complex Systems | Matthew Skelton In The Engineering Room Ep. 12
Matthew Skelton is co-author of "Team Topologies: organizing business and technology teams for fast flow". He is Head of Consulting at Conflux and specialises in Continuous Delivery, operability, and organisation dynamics for modern software systems. In this conversation with Dave, he talks about the ecosystem necessary to build and nurture software, and the wide range of topics that impact on the

Continuous Delivery vs. Gitflow & CD At Scale | Bryan Finster In The Engineering Room Ep. 11
If you haven't come across Bryan Finster before, you can thank me later. Bryan was one of a small enabling team of 5 people who introduced Continuous Delivery to over 18000 developers at Walmart. He is now working with Defence Unicorns to do the same kind of thing for the US Airforce. Adopting CD at scale is a complicated problem, but Bryan has done it repeatedly, and with intelligence, humour and

Legacy Code, OOP vs Functional Programming & MORE | Michael Feathers In The Engineering Room Ep. 10
When Michael Feathers talks it’s usually worth listening. Michael is thoughtful about software and software design, for example Michael is the person who invented the term SOLID as an approach to software design. Michael is also the author of a book that is on the “must read” list of nearly every real-world programmer “Working with Legacy Code”. In this chat, Michael Feathers describes this book a

Agile & Scrum Don't Work | Allen Holub In The Engineering Room Ep. 9
Allen Holub is a computer scientist, author, educator, and consultant. He has written extensively on the C, C++, and Java programming languages, and on object-oriented programming in general. Allen is well known for his uncompromising view of agile adoption and in particular the assumption that Scrum is the only agile approach. In the past he has said “Jira is the work of the devil” and “Agile has

The Value Of Big Data Engineering | Jesse Anderson In The Engineering Room Ep. 8
In this episode of the “Engineering Room” Dave Farley talks to Jesse Anderson about Big Data and Data Engineering exploring what it takes to implement effective big data solutions and explore what data engineering is and why it matters. Jesse Anderson is a Data Engineer, author and trainer who runs a company called the Big Data Institute where he helps companies all over the world with their Big D

Leading Teams For Silicon Valley Tech Giants | Randy Shoup In The Engineering Room Ep. 7
In this episode of “The Engineering Room” Dave Farley chats with Randy Shoup, eBay VP of Engineering and Chief Architect. Randy has led software development in some of the best known Silicon Valley web giants. He identifies some common patterns in the trajectory from software start-ups to Big Tech - declaring that a monolith is the best architecture for tech start-ups, even at eBay, Twitter, Googl

Learning from Big Public Software Failures | Kevlin Henney In The Engineering Room Ep. 6
In this episode of “The Engineering Room” Dave Farley chats with renowned author, speaker and expert software developer Kevlin Henney. In fact "The one and only Kevlin Henney" - literally! He has a google-unique name: try it! Kevlin is a member of the ACCU and IEEE Software Advisory Board. Famous for works on Pattern-Oriented Software Architecture and Big Public Software Failures. He has published

Architectural Models & Microservices | Simon Brown and Hannes Lowette In The Engineering Room Ep. 5
In this episode of "The Engineering Room", Dave Farley talks to Hannes Lowette and Simon Brown. Simon is the creator of the C4 Model and author of "Software Architecture for Developers". Simon, Hannes and Dave have a wide-ranging discussion about Software Architecture: how to do 'just enough' up-front design; why most teams should NOT do Microservices; learning to be a Software Architect; and, the

How To Manage Software Complexity | Martin Thompson In The Engineering Room Ep. 4
In this episode, Dave Farley chats with Martin Thompson. Martin is a world-class software developer and leading expert on high performance computing, Java and concurrent systems. Dave and Martin worked together to create one of the world’s highest performance financial exchanges. They discuss here excellence in software development, what it takes to move from software development into software eng

How Agile Failed at the BBC and the FBI | Gojko Adzic In The Engineering Room Ep. 3
In this episode, Dave Farley chats with Gojko Adzic. Gojko is a prolific author, international speaker on software and expert practitioner in DDD, BDD and an AWS Serverless Hero. Dave and Gojko chat about a wide-ranging series of topics on product development, steering development organisations to success, Palchinsky principles and how agile development failed for the FBI and the BBC. It’s a fun e

Java & Diversity In Tech | Trisha Gee In The Engineering Room Ep. 2
In this episode, Dave Farley chats with Trisha Gee ( ➡️ https://trishagee.com). Trisha is a Developer Advocate and Java Champion. In this conversation Dave and Trish explore a wide range of topics, mostly centred on aspects of career development and growth. They look at the value of user communities and groups, keeping current with tools and technologies, sculpting code through refactoring, and ex

The Fundamentals Of Software Development | Martin Fowler In The Engineering Room Ep. 1
In this first episode, Dave Farley chats with Martin Fowler. Martin is a widely read author having written definitive works on several important topics, including Refactoring, NoSQL, UML, Extreme Programming, and several books on patterns. He also has a very widely read website that captures more of these thoughts, and more collections of patterns too at ➡️ https://martinfowler.comDave and Martin
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