
Kickin' It
CBS Sports "Kickin' It" is a soccer show that goes beyond the game, led by Kate Abdo. The podcast aims to showcase a more personal and relatable side of the biggest stars and celebrities in and around soccer through unfiltered and organic conversation. It is part of the CBS Sports Golazo Network and Paramount+.
Episodes

Aurelio De Laurentiis on Napoli, Scudetti, Maradona, and Why He'd Cast McTominay (Soccer 4/11)
Marco Messina sits down with the film producer who took a bankrupt Napoli out of the third division and built them into Italian champions. Twice.
Aurelio De Laurentiis pulls back the curtain on the full story: the chaos of acquiring a club in ruins, the climb back through the divisions, and his unfiltered views on what's broken in the modern game: agent interference, fixture congestion, and a foo

Marten De Roon on Atalanta's unique mindset, Messi's magic, and the World Cup dream (Soccer 3/12)
In this episode of Kickin' It presented by Modelo, host Marco Messina sits down with Atalanta's Dutch midfielder Marten de Roon. As a key figure in Atalanta's sustained success at the top of Italian and European football, de Roon discusses the secret behind La Dea's rise, explaining how Gian Piero Gasperini transformed the mentality of the "small club" from Bergamo.
De Roon, who is just five appe

Fabrizio Romano on “Here We Go,” 20-hour workdays & the transfers that changed everything (Soccer 3/4)
Marco Messina sits down with the King of Transfers, Fabrizio Romano, for a deep dive into the grind behind the biggest scoops in football.
From pioneering a digital-first approach to building a one-man media empire, Fabrizio explains why 20-hour workdays are the norm and how he balances being “a journalist for sure, but with skills as a content creator.” He opens up about being self-taught in mult

Rafael Leão on AC Milan, CR7 & Portugal, Diogo Jota, Music & Zlatan (Soccer 2/20)
Anita Jones sits down with Portugal and AC Milan star Rafael Leão for a candid conversation about pressure, progression, and life beyond the pitch.
Leão reflects on his humble beginnings on the outskirts of Lisbon, being ghosted by Benfica before landing at Sporting CP, and handling early comparisons to Cristiano Ronaldo - the kind of “good pressure,” he says, that shaped his mentality. He also op

Marcus Thuram on identity, Inter, France, and not being afraid to speak out (Soccer 2/5)
France and Inter Milan striker Marcus Thuram joins Anita Jones for a candid conversation about football, family, and forging his own identity.
From a friendly rivalry with his brother Khéphren - “I wanted to prove I’m the big brother” - to navigating the weight of being Lilian Thuram’s son, Marcus opens up about maturity, values, and learning to question the world around him. He reflects on fashio

Jamie Carragher: "I don't want people to remember me as a footballer" (Soccer 1/29)
Kate Scott sits down with UCL Today co-host and Liverpool legend Jamie Carragher for a candid conversation about football, media, pressure, and life after the final whistle.
Jamie reflects on the intensity of playing for Liverpool, the toll it took, and why management was never a path he wanted to follow. He opens up about learning to shut out outside noise from early criticism in his career to na

Scott McTominay on the Napoli glow up, Scotland's World Cup hopes & leaving Man Utd (Soccer 12/19)
Kate Scott is joined by Scott McTominay for a wide-ranging conversation that captures a footballer at the peak of his confidence and clarity. Following a remarkable start to life in Serie A with Napoli, McTominay reflects on adapting to a new country and language, embracing life in Naples, and staying grounded after last season's Scudetto win.
McTominay opens up about his mentality from his obsess

Cesc Fabregas on coaching Como, Arsenal’s title chances & Mourinho's influence (Soccer 12/11)
Kate Scott sits down with legendary Spanish midfielder and World Cup winner Cesc Fabregas as he reflects on his transition into management and relives defining moments from an illustrious career. Cesc opens up on the Como project, the mentality of young players, and the challenges of coaching in the modern era. He revisits his formative years at La Masia and Arsenal, shares insights on Lamine Yama

Peter Schmeichel on Manchester United’s glory days & the toll of greatness (Soccer 10/20)
Kate Scott sits down with CBS Sports colleague and goalkeeping great Peter Schmeichel for a wide-ranging and deeply personal conversation about the highs and lows of life at Manchester United.
From humble beginnings in Denmark to becoming the heartbeat of Sir Alex Ferguson’s fabled United side, Peter opens up about the ambition that drove him, the boldness that defined his playing style, and the u

Thomas Müller on bowing out at Bayern, beating Brazil 7-1, legacy and next steps (Soccer 7/1)
Kate Scott sits down with Bayern Munich legend and World Cup winner Thomas Müller for a wide-ranging conversation with one of football’s most unique characters.
Thomas opens up about his remarkable career, from scoring in a Champions League final to dismantling Brazil 7-1 at a World Cup. But for all the titles and trophies, he insists that competition means more than silverware - and explains why

Christian Vieri on Chasing Dreams, Azzurri Pride, & Life After Football (Soccer 5/30)
Kate Scott sits down with one of Calcio’s most iconic No. 9s - the larger-than-life Christian Vieri.
Bobo opens up about leaving his family behind in Australia as a teenager to chase his dream of playing in Italy. He reflects on the quiet strength of his father, the deep influence of his grandfather, and why wearing the Azzurri shirt meant more to him than any club crest (03:13).
Christian shares

Micah Richards on Growing Up, Growing Wiser, and Knowing When to Quit (Soccer 5/1)
Kate Scott kicks off Season 2 with someone near and dear - her CBS Sports UCL Today teammate Micah Richards, aka Big Meeks.
Micah opens up about being the butt of the joke - and why it doesn't offend him. Behind the booming laugh and bubbly personality is a thoughtful, grounded man who doesn’t obsess over money or fame. For Micah, it’s quality time with family and loved ones that truly matters. He

Jürgen Klinsmann on dropping Landon, USMNT mentality, MLS growth, diving, more (Soccer 10/1)
World Cup winner and former USMNT head coach Jürgen Klinsmann joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies to reflect on his playing and managerial careers.Camp Cupcake (01:32): Monitoring Charlie after his accident, the good and bad of January camp, assessing young talent.Coaching the USMNT (10:52): Decision to take the U.S. job, the challenges facing American soccer, 2014 World Cup what ifs

Tab Ramos on American soccer's nice guy problem, Klinsmann's impact, the greatest ever USMNT, building beyond the World Cup (Soccer 9/24)
Three-time World Cup participant and National Soccer Hall of Famer Tab Ramos joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies to talk about his playing and coaching careers, as well as his views on the state of the American game.Closing the gap (01:35): The 1990 team’s World Cup impostor syndrome, witnessing U.S. Soccer’s gradual move towards professionalism, building a culture and connection bet

Alessandro Del Piero on Juventus loyalty, Zidane's headbutt, Italy's development issues, Calciopoli relegation, more! (Soccer 9/17)
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies begin season two of Kickin’ It with a bang by welcoming in Italy and Juventus legend Alessandro Del Piero to talk about his mindset and incredible playing career.Mentality (01:30): Channeling his competitive spirit, being able to control his emotions (unlike Clint!), and the origin of the Pinturicchio nickname.Juventus (10:11): Learning from Di Baggio an

Emil Forsberg on MLS move, sporting idols, career highs and lows, Jesse Marsch man management, more (Soccer 6/25)
New York Red Bulls captain and veteran Sweden international Emil Forsberg joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies to talk about the perception of MLS as a retirement league, growing up in Sweden, working under different managers, his love of music and much more. Joining RBNY (02:23): Getting acclimatized as the DP, framing American move, seeking advice from Zlatan Ibrahimović, new MLS ru

Copa America preview: Group C opponents, Berhalter's key decisions, projected USMNT XI, predictions, more (Call It What You Want)
For a passionate, unapologetic and informed discussion about the USMNT and the state of the American game catch the Call It What You Want podcast! Download and follow Call It What You Want on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts!The stage is set as 16 teams converge on the United States to compete for Copa America bragging rights. Charlie Davies and Tony Meola kick things off

Brian McBride on split with US Soccer, World Cup and Fulham memories, Berhalter’s impact, more (Soccer 6/18)
Veteran of three World Cups and former General Manager of the USMNT Brian McBride joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Mo Edu and Charlie Davies to talk about his time with the national team, Fulham’s American contingent, injuries, Gregg Berhalter and much more. The Biggest Stage (04:04): The differences between Mark Sampson and Bruce Arena’s World Cup teams, scoring against Portugal in 2002. Fulham (1

Eric Wynalda on being disrespected, USMNT then vs. now, Reyna-Berhalter fallout, John Harkes, more! (Soccer 6/11)
The trailblazing and outspoken Eric Wynalda joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Mo Edu and Charlie Davies to look back on a storied career that saw him play in three World Cups and become the first American-born player in Bundesliga history. And staying true to form, Eric lets his feelings on the current United States men’s national team known. Unwanted (03:30): Being made to feel expendable by the Fe

Bruce Arena on World Cup highs and lows, Revs exit, managing Dempsey, current USMNT generation, more (Soccer 6/4)
Former USMNT head coach and five-time MLS champion Bruce Arena joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Mo Edu and Charlie Davies to look back on the highlights and lowlights from his extraordinary managerial career, his favorite players, fondest World Cup memories and ambitions to get back on the saddle. Dealing with Dempsey (03:17): Managing different personalities and squashing the beef with Clint.Psyc

Trae tha Truth on Clint’s rap game, community outreach, changing lives, breaking down barriers (4/30)
Houston rapper and philanthropist Trae tha Truth joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Mo Edu and Charlie Davies to talk about his and Clint’s friendship, learning to appreciate soccer, surviving in the music industry, his work with the local community, parenting and more. How Trae met Clint (1:25): The Big Hawk connection, Dempsey’s got bars, exposure to soccer, maintaining relationships, using social

Arike Ogunbowale on the switch from soccer to basketball, family, the shoe deal, and advice from Kobe Bryant (Soccer 04/23)
WNBA 5th overall pick by the Dallas Wings in the 2019 draft and Notre Dame's most outstanding player during their title run in 2018, Arike Ogunbowale joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Mo Edu and Charlie Davies for a candid conversation about transitioning from soccer to basketball, putting school first, family support, and becoming a pro. They group also talk about legacy, shoes, and the American Dr

Tony Meola on never looking back, World Cup fever, the cost of family first, and the game now vs then (Soccer 04/15)
USMNT goalkeeping legend, MLS Champion & MVP, as well as coach Tony Meola joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, and Charlie Davies for a candid conversation about his humility, representing America, and for the first time, why he stepped away from the USMNT. They also chat about today vs back then and Tony being a bridge between the two.First time for everything (2:08): Jersey collection, World Cup

Dirk Nowitzki on his career legacy, soccer fandom, language barriers, and NBA trash talk (Soccer 04/08)
NBA Hall of Famer, Champion, and Dallas Mavericks legend Dirk Nowitzki joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Mo Edu, and Charlie Davies for a candid conversation about his iconic status in the states, NBA achievements, early struggles leaving Germany, and love for the beautiful game. The group also chat about who the NBA GOAT is, new passions post-retirement, and marriage.Honors (2:08): A Statue, a stre

Todd Gurley on retirement at 28, soccer's international impact, investing in MLS, and the Georgia experience (Soccer 03/18)
Two-time First Team All-Pro, and 2017 Offensive Player of the Year Todd Gurley joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies for a candid conversation about life before and after football, leaving college early, the power of investment in soccer, hobbies, and having a kid on the way. The group also try to bait Gurley into some freestyle rapping before discussing his musical interests and Georg

Lauren Holiday on brain tumor diagnosis, desire for culture change, team ownership, NBA husband (Soccer 03/12)
Two-time Olympic gold medalist, FIFA Women's World Cup champion, NWSL Champion & MVP, and Hall of Famer Lauren Holiday joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies for a candid conversation about married life, the pursuit of happiness, overcoming health adversity, changing the culture and perception surrounding women's sports, life after retirement, and what it means to be great.Sports ma

Ryan Clark on contract impasse, parenting, code switching, toughness, squashing beefs (3/5)
Former NFL safety and Super Bowl champion Ryan Clark joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu for a candid conversation about his fraught contract negotiation with ESPN, the intersection of sports and politics, his approach to parenting, and dealing with setbacks in life and in football. New contract (01:56): The negotiation process, overcoming fear and becoming a better broadcas

Jermaine Jones on effects of bad boy perception, switch to USMNT, the desire to coach, and regrets in life (2/27)
Jermaine Jones joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu to talk about the truth behind making the switch from the German National Team to the U.S. Men's National Team, how being born in Germany instead of the United States has affected his legacy and future, his no-holds-barred approach to social media, and the rewards of coaching.The Switch (03:59): Decision to join the USMNT, tr

Jesse Marsch on Leeds heartbreak, coaching Haaland, media work, the USMNT’s ceiling (2/20)
Jesse Marsch joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu to talk about coaching the latter three, the all-consuming nature of the Premier League, what he loves about managing, embracing the USMNT’s characteristics, and much more. La dolce vita (01:27): Moving to Italy, the transient life of a coach, prioritizing relationships over winning. USMNT (10:55): Dropping Mo at the World

Ali Krieger on leaving on top, mom guilt, divorce, USWNT leadership, Gotham’s turnaround (2/13)
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies, and Mo Edu return to the Kickin’ It couch to chat with two-time Women’s World Cup winner Ali Krieger about life after soccer, her NWSL swan song, being a recently-divorced mom, the future of the USWNT, and much more. Processing retirement (01:28): Ali discusses leaving on a high, listening to her body, what she treasures most about her playing career, and

Andrés Cantor on and being the voice of soccer in American, Maradona and Messi, cameo on The Simpsons, his viral 2022 World Cup call (Soccer 12/12)
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu welcome in the voice of soccer to the millions of Spanish speakers all across America, Andrés Cantor. He recounts his memories of calling games that Clint, Charlie, and Mo all played in and the differences between the USMNT of the 90s and the team now. Andrés also explains his love of Maradona and time spent working with him, when he left Argenti

Marcus Samuelsson on being adopted, playing at GAIS, cooking vs soccer, and making food for a President.
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu welcome in Ethiopian-born Swedish-American celebrity chef, restaurateur and television personality Marcus Samuelsson. He tells his story of adoption and survival at a young age, his pursuit of soccer, love of Arsenal, playing for GAIS, how his cooking origins began after being cut from the sport, and how the kitchen and the pitch share a lot of c

Guillem Balagué on storytelling, protecting sources, Messi’s biography, what drives Guardiola
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu welcome in award-winning author, journalist and analyst Guillem Balagué to talk about his big career break, building trust with players and managers, and getting on David Beckham's bad side. Guillem discusses the process of writing a biography, Lionel Messi’s English skills, and how his relationship with José Mourinho changed over time. Then, the

Midge Purce on Gotham’s NWSL title, missing out on the World Cup, Carli Lloyd’s USWNT remarks, going to Harvard
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu welcome in the recently-crowned NWSL Championship MVP Midge Purce to talk about NJ/NY Gotham’s remarkable season, her reaction to Megan Rapinoe getting injured in her farewell game, and how being left off the USWNT’s World Cup roster changed her perspective on things. Midge shares her thoughts on the increased level of competition on the internat

Thomas Rongen on discovering Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies, learning for Johan Cruyff, being different
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu welcome in CBS Sports colleague and former United States U-20 MYNT head coach Thomas Rongen to talk about his experiences as U.S. Soccer’s chief scout. Thomas opens up about his unorthodox approach to coaching, coming to America from the Netherlands, getting posterized by George Best during his NASL playing days, and his regrets about not consoli

Landon Donovan on getting cut in 2014, pledging allegiance to Mexico, being tied for US goals, learning about compassion
In the second half of a two-part interview, Landon Donovan joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu to talk about his experience of not getting selected for his fourth World Cup, pledging his support for Mexico in 2018, being tied with Dempsey for goals, and learning that he's the world's all-time national team assist leader. He also talks about his regret over never showing love

Landon Donovan on Clint Dempsey relationship, USMNT then vs. now, time spent in Europe, Christian Pulisic and MLS
In the first of a two-part interview, Landon Donovan joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu to talk about his career, upbringing and mental health journey. Landon and Clint discuss why they weren't close as teammates, how their relationship improved post-retirement, and reminisce about playing together for the USMNT. Then, Landon compares the current USMNT generation with his ow

Jozy Altidore on missing out on the 2018 World Cup, being booed, MLS vs. Europe, free agency
Jozy Altidore joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies and Mo Edu to talk about his time on the United States men’s national team, family life with his wife and tennis champion Sloane Stephens, and the development of soccer in the United States. He also discusses the pain of failing to qualify for the 2018 World Cup, “being booed for four or five years,” and his thoughts on the USMNT’s curre

Carli Lloyd on not taking a knee during Olympics, falling out with family, trust issues, reactions from Kickin' It crew post-interview
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies, and Mo Edu continue their conversation with USWNT legend Carli Lloyd who lifts the lid on her mistrust of others, falling out with family members, and the sacrifices it took to reach the top. They also discuss how she was brainwashed and manipulated by her personal coach, why she didn't take a knee at the Olympics, and people not really knowing who she was

Carli Lloyd on always being her authentic self, the disfunction within the USWNT program, what is needed to usher in new era
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies, and Mo Edu chat with Carli Lloyd about her experiences and time spent representing her country over the years, her work ethic and how she carries herself both on and off the field, her criticisms of the USWNT program and what is needed moving forward, her hesitation to do media, and so much more. Kickin’ It is available for free on the Audacy app as well a

Matt Turner on the Gio Reyna and Gregg Berhalter situation, learning soccer on YouTube, fighting to be number one
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies chat with United States National Team goalkeeper Matt Turner about his unlikely path to playing in the Premier League and World Cup, being consulted on Gregg Berhalter’s performance as USMNT head coach, teaching himself how to become a goalkeeper, the highs and lows of life and much more. Kickin’ It is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Appl

Thierry Henry on looking for approval from his father, being saved by his kids, embracing his emotions
Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies continue their candid conversation with France's legendary striker Thierry Henry, hitting on themes of family, loss, forgiveness and acceptance. Thierry opens up about being a “pain in the neck for the good of the cause,” feeling like a stranger in his own home and learning to be vulnerable after years of repressing his emotions. Clint reflects on the he

Thierry Henry on Christian Pulisic’s mistakes, his Arsenal turning point, developing young talent
Kickin’ It debuts in style with the first of a two-part interview with an all-time great, Thierry Henry, who joins Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies to discuss life and the beautiful game. Thierry encourages Christian Pulisic to replicate the fearlessness he shows on the international stage with his club team, “As a creative player if you don’t try to make mistakes, you cannot succeed.”

Introducing 'Kickin' It'
CBS Sports "Kickin' It" is a weekly soccer show not only about soccer. Led by Kate Abdo, Clint Dempsey, Mo Edu and Charlie Davies – the goal is to showcase a more personal and relatable side to the biggest stars and celebrities in and around the sport through unfiltered and organic conversation. Kickin' It is part of the CBS Sports Golazo Network and Paramount+.
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