The Podium and Panel Podcast
Each podcast episode, Pat Eckler and Dan Cotter cover several oral arguments and decisions in civil matters at the Illinois Appellate Court and Illinois Supreme Court, with the occasional coverage of SCOTUS and other appellate courts. The purpose of the podcast is to inform of developments that may affect business and are not to be considered legal advice. They do not create a lawyer-client relationship. Information on previous case results do not guarantee a similar future result. The opinions are their own and do not reflect those of the firms for which they work or their clients.
Episodes
Episode 332 – Sworn is ambiguous
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Episode 331 – Gratefully Take the 5th.
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Episode 330 – Please Use Real Words!
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Episode 329 – Can a federal court compel arbitration
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Episode 328 – Nashville Hot Chicken Sandwich
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Episode 327 – Whether the Court Retains Jurisdiction
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Episode 326 – A counter-counterclaim
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Episode 325 - In Shambles
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Episode 324 - No bollocks, but bullocks
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Episode 323 - A due process problem
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Episode 322 - Biblical detail
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Episode 321 - That is Catucky, not Kentucky, Derby
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Episode 320 – A costly trip to Portillo’s
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Episode 319 - 7-0. Quite the week.
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Episode 318 - A Little Post-Fourth TNT
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Episode 317 - A Little TNT
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Episode 316 – Going Into the Vault
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Episode 315 – Coming to you from IIT
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Episode 314 – Two recent cases where a party "won" $1
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Episode 313 – The Third is the Charm
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Episode 312 – Ready Made Rule of the Week
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollowPat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Sullivan: Reverse OSD: Affirm Garvin: ReverseSullivan:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/OSD: https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/nv.25-2309.25-2309_05_12_2026.mp3Garvin:https://mycour
Episode 311 – Decisions in FAA and FAAAA
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Episode 309 – That error requires vacatur
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Episode 310 – He had a pulse
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Episode 308 – A state court loser
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Episode 307 – Here Radio Silence on Arbitration
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Episode 306 – Industrial Justice
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Episode 305 – Can a Claim Expire
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Episode 304 – Rahimi in sheep’s clothing
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Episode 303 – There must be 50 ways to punt
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Episode 302 – Another case with dogs
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Episode 301 – We decline the invitation
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Episode 300 – Not quite as dramatic as the Movie, 300
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Episode 299 – This case is hitting all of the technology risk
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Episode 298 – 7th Circuit Blackjack
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Episode 297 – Elon Musk Beware
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Episode 296 – The SCOTUS 9 give us another trio
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Episode 295 – Hoosiers for the win
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Episode 294 – Force the case into arbitration?
Show notes: Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Fratto: Reversed Ellis: AffirmSchneider: AffirmIL app:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 293– Five Hour Tour
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Slaughter: Reverse NationalRepublican Senatorial Committee: Reverse First Choice Women's Resource Centers, Inc: ReverseSlaughter:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2025/25-332 NRSC:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_ar
Episode 292 – The Heck Bar
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Episode 291 – Here is to the next five
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Episode 290 – Opinions count for squat
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Episode 289 – Exclusively Insurance Questions
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Episode 288 – Almost Exclusively Workers Compensation Exclusivity
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Episode 287 – Another criticism of counsel
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Episode 286 – A trial court’s effort to manage a struggling jury
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Episode 285 – This case exemplifies the significant deference given to arbitrators
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Aon: Affirm Deppa: Affirm Rosen: PuntIL app:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Aon:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ch.24-2017.24-2017_11_03_2025.mp3IN SCT:https://mycourts.in.gov/
Episode 284 – When Video killed the Courtroom star
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Episode 283 – Even when drawn in response to a federal court finding
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Episode 282 – Due to a Lapse of Appropriations
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Villareal: Affirm Case: Affirm American Backflow: AffirmVillareal:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2025/24-557Case:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2025/24-624IL app:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/c
Episode 281 – SCOTUS all day
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Chiles: Reverse Ber: Dan Reverse Pat: Affirm Bost: AffirmChiles:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2025/24-539Berk:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2025/24-440 Bost:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_ar
Episode 280 – Three duty cases
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Episode 279 – How should the judiciary respond?
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Episode 278 – Does Rosenbach control?
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Freedburg: Affirm Rivas: AffirmIL app cases:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/Fausett:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
Episode 277 – Whether the trial court crossed the line from gatekeeping to factfinding
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Wrong: Northland: Affirm Toro: Reverse Simonson: Affirm7th Circuit Toro here:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ch.24-2865.24-2865_09_11_2025.mp3IN APP Northland:https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=3018&view=d
Episode 276 – We’re back in business Baby
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Bonan: Reverse Bolden: Affirm O'Donnell: Reverse7th Circuit Bonan here:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ef.24-3296.24-3296_09_03_2025.mp37th Circuit Bolden:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/dab.24-1674.24-167
Episode 275 – The insurance coverage fight can be just as explosive
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Navigators: Affirm Soloway: Affirm Schnepf: Reverse7th Circuit Navigators here:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.24-2888.24-2888_09_05_2025.mp37th Circuit Soloway:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/dab.24-31
Episode 274 - And then there was one
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: ISBA: AffirmIllinois appellate argument can be found at:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 273 – What Happens to a High-Stakes Toxic Tort Verdict
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Evard: Reverse Kent: Dan: Affirm Pat: ReverseIllinois appellate arguments can be found at:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 272 – We take the 5th
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Pawlowski: Affirm Loeb: Reverse Dorman: AffirmIllinois appellate arguments can be found at:http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/recent_appellate.asp
Episode 271 – One of the most powerful tools
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: V.O.S.: AffirmedCase can be downloaded at:https://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/home/oral-argument/listen-to-oral-arguments/
Episode 270 – Judge shopping or joint defense strategy?
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Madigan: Affirm Kirkland: ReverseIL APP:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 269 – Privileges, Policy, and Peer Review Immunity
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Riverside: Affirm Graunke: Affirm Grudecki: AffirmIL APP: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 268 – Multimillion consequences
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Humane Farming Ass'n: Affirm Global Research Distribution: Affirm Bricker: AffirmIL APP:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 267 - Fire-alarm monitoring is back
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Vanderburgh: Reverse Alarm Detection: Affirm7th: https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ef.24-3163.24-3163_06_26_2025.mp3IL APP: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 266 – A collision of contracts
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Episode 265 - From love letters to litigation
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Moore: Affirm Martinez: Affirm "Triple Crown: PuntILAPP:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/IN SCT Martinez is here:https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=3011&view=detail&
Episode 264 - A Log Cabin, a Lawsuit, and a Legal Labyrinth
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Rosenbaum: Affirm Oliver: Affirm Marmelo: PuntILAPP:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/IN APP case:https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=3006&view=detail&yr=&when=&a
Episode 263 - Gurney Tip Leads to Summary Judgment
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Wrong: Barter-Storm: Affirm Gabriel: Affirm Haar: AffirmILAPP:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 262 - A constitutional ride to the Seventh Circuit
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: NIPSCO: Punt Epic: Reverse Schoenthal: ReverseIN APP:https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2997&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&a
Episode 261 - Four bases for challenging the detention
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Stewart: Reverse Martin: Reverse Pergament: AffirmSCOTUS case:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2024/24-362IL APP:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/IL SCT:https://www.illinoisco
Episode 260 - Special Episode - Ted Frank discusses Andren v. End User Consumer Plaintiff Cl
Dan and Pat are joined by Ted Frank of the Hamilton Lincoln Law Institute regarding his recent oral argument before the Seventh Circuit.
Episode 259 - The Children Would be Exposed to content
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Mahmoud: Reverse Kordas: ReverseSCOTUS case:https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2024/24-297IL APP:https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Episode 258 - No Technicolor Dream Coat, but an umbrella?
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure Go Wrong: Allianz: Affirm Davis: Affirm Scifo: ReverseIN App can be found here:https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2996&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=Fals
Episode 257 - Understand You disageee, but you have to give us a basis.
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Jezierski: Reverse Olson: Punt Stewart: AffirmIN App can be found here:https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2985&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future
Episode 256 - A solo, all-Indiana episode
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong (Pat only): Anonymous Child: Reverse McElhany: Reverse Baldwin: AffirmAnonymous Child 1 v. Anonymous Physicianhttps://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2984&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&s
Episode 255 - How is that clearly erroneous?
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdanFollow Pat on LinkedIn athttps://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: PTI Union: Reverse BD: Affirm Pagle: Affirm Delgado: ReverseIN App can be found here:https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2979&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20
Episode 254 - We’re Here for one simple question today
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Hammond: Affirm Thornapple: Affirm Aurora: Affirm
Illinois Appellate Court is here:
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7th Hammond:
https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/dab.24-
Episode 253 - Pat gets on his hobby horse again
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Kaur: Affirm Raymond: Affirm McNulty: Affirm
IN SCT can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2994&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&
