Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)
The Tom Schimmer Podcast is a show about learning, leadership, and life, primarily focusing on current topics in K-12 education. Each week, Tom Schimmer, a best-selling education author and consultant, draws on his 30 years of experience to discuss prevailing stories in teaching and learning. The podcast also explores educational leadership and occasionally delves into success and happiness in various walks of life. Through interviews, commentary, news stories, and listener questions, it aims to equip educators and leaders with insights to meet learners' needs.
Episodes
37 - End of Year Assessment Audit (10 Questions Every Teacher Should Ask)
As a school year is completed, it's natural to reflect on what worked, what didn't, and what you'd like to do differently next year. But beyond lessons, units, and classroom management, there's another area that deserves our attention: assessment. In this episode, Tom and Natalie guide listeners through an end-of-year assessment audit built around 10 powerful questions designed to help teachers ex
36 - Why Self-Assessment Fails (And How Students Actually Learn Quality)
Self-assessment has become one of the most widely embraced practices in education. We want students to reflect on their learning, understand success criteria, monitor their progress, and take ownership of their growth. But what if we've underestimated how difficult self-assessment actually is? In this episode, Tom and Natalie explore the idea that students don't become effective self-assessors sim
35 - Why Grading Reform Fails in Schools (And What Leaders Get Wrong)
What happens when grading reform moves beyond theory and starts colliding with real people, real beliefs, and real resistance? In this episode, Tom and Natalie unpack the leadership side of grading reform, the part that often gets overlooked in conversations about standards-based grading, assessment reform, and reporting practices. They explore why so many initiatives lose momentum, not because th
34 - Why Participation Grades Don’t Belong in Your Gradebook (And What To Do Instead)
Participation grades are still widely used in education. In this episode, Tom and Nat challenge the assumption that participation belongs in academic grades by unpacking a critical distinction: participation may support learning, but it is not the same as learning. Through a candid and thought-provoking conversation, they explore what participation grades often end up measuring: personality, confi
33 - Interview w/ Jon Asbury, Edsby Destinations
In this episode, Tom & Natalie are joined by Jon Asbury, co-founder of Edsby, to discuss their new platform, "Edsby Destinations." Previously, Jon was one of the three co-founders of a company called SoftArc. SoftArc built an email and collaboration system called FirstClass back in the 90s that took the world by storm and is credited as, among other things, the first learning management system
32 - Why Feedback Fails (And What Actually Makes It Work)
In this episode, Tom and Nat take a hard look at one of the most celebrated and misunderstood elements of teaching: feedback. While research consistently shows that feedback can significantly improve student achievement, the reality in many classrooms is very different. Too often, feedback is given but not used, leaving teachers frustrated and students unchanged. Together, they unpack five
31 - Averaging Is Statistically Convenient and Educationally Misleading
Averaging feels neutral, objective, and mathematically sound, but in the context of student learning, it can quietly distort the story a grade is meant to tell. In this episode, Tom and Natalie take a deep dive into the statistics that dominate most gradebooks (mean, median, and mode) and unpack why tools designed to summarize stable data can mislead us when applied to something as dynamic
30 - Assessment Literacy Is the Real "Teacher Shortage"
Across education, we hear constant concern about teacher shortages. On the surface, it seems like recruitment pipelines, retention rates, burnout, and workload are the issues. But beneath those very real challenges lies a quieter, more systemic issue: many educators have never received deep, sustained support for developing assessment literacy. When teachers lack clarity around evidence, criteria,
29 - Lowering the Bar Isn’t Compassion: Rethinking Assessment and Care
In this episode, Tom and Nat explore a tension many educators are feeling right now: our deep desire to be compassionate in assessment and the unintended consequences that can arise when compassion gets confused with lowering expectations. Responding to student stress, disengagement, and inequity is real and necessary work. But when clarity fades, standards soften, and expectations become negotiab
28 - AI Didn’t Break Assessment; It Exposed It (and What That Means for Integrity)
AI has sparked fear, urgency, and a wave of reactionary policies in schools, but what if the real issue isn’t the technology itself? In this episode, Tom and Natalie argue that AI didn’t break assessment; it exposed long-standing weaknesses in task design, clarity, and how we define academic integrity. Rather than framing AI as a cheating problem to be solved through bans and detection tools, they
27 - The Hidden Cost of Implementation Errors in Assessment & Grading
When educators say, “We tried that… and it didn’t work,” the conversation often stops there. But what if the problem isn’t the idea itself (e.g., feedback, reassessment, rubrics, or standards-based grading) but the way it was implemented? In this episode of Assess THAT, Tom & Nat explore the often-overlooked distinction between sound assessment ideas and the implementation choices that bring t
26 - Motivation and Assessment: Designing the Conditions for Learning with Josh Ogilvie
In this episode, Tom & Natalie are joined by CAC consultant Josh Ogilvie for a thoughtful and energizing conversation about the relationship between student motivation and sound assessment practices. Josh challenges the idea that motivation is something students either have or don’t have, and instead invites us to look closely at the conditions we design in classrooms (e.g., through purpose, c
25 - The Ghosts of Grading Past, Present & Future (Rethinking Assessment Through A Christmas Carol)
In this special holiday episode of Assess THAT with Tom & Nat, Tom and Natalie explore grading through the timeless lens of Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol. Guided by the ghosts of grading past, present, and yet to come, they unpack why grading is so emotionally charged, why change often feels threatening, and how our own experiences as students continue to shape the way we evaluate learnin
24 - The 12 Days of Assessment: Small Teacher Moves with Big Impact
As the year winds down and classrooms settle into December’s quieter rhythm, Tom and Natalie invite you to pull up a chair for a fireside conversation about the small assessment moves that make a big difference. Instead of offering another checklist or set of strategies to “add on,” this special holiday episode explores twelve gentle, human-centred shifts, each connected to its day, that bring mor
23 - Trust the Teacher: Why Percentages Fail and Professional Judgment Prevails
In this episode, Tom & Nat tackle one of education’s biggest myths: that percentages make grading fair and objective. They break down how percentage systems create the illusion of precision while concealing the true story of student learning. Through real numerical examples and insights from researchers, they reveal how averaging can distort growth, penalize early learning, and undermine teach
22 - Outcomes-Based Grading & Artificial Intelligence in Education with Danielle Paloposki
When it comes to transforming assessment, few educators bridge the gap between vision and practice quite like Danielle Paloposki. As a passionate advocate for outcomes-based learning, Danielle helps schools move beyond the chaos of percentages and points toward a system grounded in clarity, consistency, and authentic evidence of learning. Her work challenges the old myths of grading by reminding u
21 - The 5 Nuances That Take Formative Assessment from Good to Great!
Formative assessment is one of education’s most powerful tools, but its real impact lies in the subtle, often-overlooked nuances that transform it from good to great. In this episode, Tom and Nat explore five key moves that elevate formative practice, from designing prompts that elicit the right evidence of learning to interpreting student thinking with precision and timing feedback for maximum im
20 - Assessment Identity with Karley Alleyn
In this episode, Tom & Nat sit down with Karley Alleyn, a Canadian Assessment Centre consultant and a powerful voice helping educators rethink what assessment can be. Drawing on her graduate research in assessment identity, Karley explores how our personal experiences, beliefs, and emotions as educators shape our approach to assessing students. Her insights help teachers understand why they do
19 - Reimagining Final Exams
Exams have long been a fixture in schools, but too often they end up measuring memory and endurance more than deep learning. In this episode, we challenge the tradition of final exams and explore how schools can reimagine them into experiences that actually matter for students.
From case studies and performance tasks to choice-driven assessments, we share practical ways to transform exams into aut
18 - Assessing Creativity Without Killing It
Creativity isn’t a bonus skill for a lucky few — it’s a core competency every student needs to thrive in an unpredictable future. In this episode, Tom and Nat break down why creativity deserves a place in your assessment plan and, more importantly, exactly how to make that happen without stifling student imagination. You’ll learn practical strategies for defining creativity, building student-frien
🍁 BONUS - The Canadian Assessment Centre
In this bonus episode of Assess THAT with Tom & Nat, we’re excited to introduce the Canadian Assessment Centre (CAC) — a new national hub dedicated to helping schools modernize their assessment and grading practices with clarity, credibility, and care.
We share the story of why CAC was created, outline our Charter, Vision, and Mission, and highlight what’s coming: free webinars, mini-courses
17 - Grade Expectations: Resetting the Rules for a New Year
As a new school year begins, it’s the perfect time to revisit the grading habits we’ve carried forward, sometimes without question. In this episode, Tom and Nat unpack five common grading “rules” that may be doing more harm than good. With a mix of mindset shifts and actionable tips, they invite educators to hit reset and design grading practices that actually support learning. Whether you’re just
16 - First Impressions, Lasting Impact: Designing Your Assessment Culture from Day One
In this back-to-school episode, Tom and Nat dive into the often-overlooked reality that your first assessments and grading decisions send powerful messages to students that can shape the classroom culture for the entire year.
They unpack how early assessment choices communicate your values, influence student confidence, and either build or erode trust. From designing low-stakes, feedback-rich tas
15 - Year-End Assessment Audit
As the school year winds down, it’s the perfect time to pause, reflect, and refine. In this episode, Tom and Nat walk you through five powerful questions to guide an end-of-year assessment audit—no data deep dives or compliance checklists required. Just clear, practical ways to decide what assessment strategies to keep, adjust, or let go. Whether you’re packing up your classroom or planning for ne
14 - Rehumanizing Assessment (Pt. 2)
In this episode, Tom and Nat continue the discussion about their new book, "Rehumanizing Assessment: Gathering Evidence of Student Learning through Storytelling." This episode takes a deeper dive into how, through various story structures, students can tell the story of WHAT they're learning and HOW they're learning.
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING EVENTS
June 25-27 (Tom & Nat) ST Assessment Collabor
13 - Rehumanizing Assessment (Pt. 1)
In this episode, Tom and Nat introduce listeners to their new book, "Rehumanizing Assessment: Gathering Evidence of Student Learning through Storytelling." While subsequent episodes will focus on specific aspects and strategies, this episode is an overview of why they wrote the book and who the target audience is.
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING EVENTS
June 25-27 (Tom & Nat) ST Assessment Collaborati
12 - Assessment & UDL
In this episode, Tom and Nat explore the intersection between assessment and Universal Design for Learning (UDL). Specifically, they highlight five important connections:
UDL means designing assessments from the start with flexibility in mind.
Assessment must reflect the UDL principles of engagement, representation, and expression.
Formative assessment is essential—it guides flexible, responsiv
11 - Would You Rather? (Assessment Edition)
In this episode, Tom and Nat play the game "Would You Rather," exploring five assessment dilemmas that teachers and schools often face:
Would You Rather:
#1: Allow students to redo assessments right up to report card deadlines, or cut off revisions two weeks early to protect your feedback quality and mental health?
#2: Suppress a student’s grade when evidence is insufficient, or assign a best-e
10 - Assessing PBL & Inquiry
Tom and Nat explore some important reminders about how to ensure that the assessment of both Project- and Inquiry-Based Learning are meaningful, cognitively complex, and substantive. Just "doing" PBL or Inquiry is not enough. The promise of these approaches to learning is deeper learning so our assessment practices need to reach that promise.
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING EVENTS
MAR. 24-25 (Tom) SBLA 2
BONUS [TSP Classic] - Gholdy Muhammad (July 2022)
In this Tom Schimmer Podcast classic, Tom is joined by Gholdy Muhammad to discuss her book, "Cultivating Genius, an Equity Framework for Culturally and Historically Responsive Literacy."
Gholdy on X: @GholdyM
Gholdy on Instagram: @gholdym
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING EVENTS
MAR. 5-6 (Tom) GFIO 2-Day Workshop
San Antonio, TX
MAR. 24-25 (Tom) SBLA 2-Day
New Orleans, LA
APR. 5-6 (Tom
9 - 3 Year Checklist for Implementing Standards-Based Grading
In this episode, Tom and Nat share a three-year checklist for implementing standards-based grading. Of course, every checklist must be checked" against the culture and nuances of each specific situation. but generally, this checklist will provide a road map that can at least initiate the journey; you can adjust from there
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING EVENTS
FEB 19 (Tom) PLC Summit KEYNOTE
Phoenix,
8 - The Secrets to Self-Assessment
In this episode, Tom and Nat discuss the "Secrets to Self-Assessment." Having students competent in self-assessment is the ultimate outcome of teachers' assessment literacy; teachers need to teach students how to do it.
Tom and Nat discuss (1) Why Self-Assessment matters, (2) How to overcome the inevitable challenges and roadblocks that come with early implementation, and (3) Five effective self-a
7 - The Grading Trap!
In this episode, Tom and Natalie discuss the "Grading Trap," which inadvertently occurs when traditional grading practices - things like zeros for missing work, late penalties, and mixing behavior with academic performance - end up working against learning instead of supporting it. The "Grading Trap" can inadvertently sabotage great teaching.
Tom and Natalie close the episode with ways that teac
6 - Three Quick Assessment Wins
In this episode, Tom and Natalie discuss three quick assessment wins. Each "win" falls within a specific aspect of assessment.
Formative: Engineer conversations
Summative: Reorganize the gradebook.
Student Agency: Feedback through consent
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING EVENTS
JAN. 24-25 (Tom) NESA Educators Training Institute
Abu Dhabi, U.A.E.
FEB. 6-7 (Natalie) GFIO 2-Day Workshop
Orlando, FL.
5 - The Anatomy of a Good Rubric
In this episode, Tom and Natalie discuss what makes a good rubric. They discuss the art and science of rubrics and what constitutes a high-quality rubric. They also discuss the differences between analytic, holistic, and single-point rubrics.
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
JAN. 24-25 (Tom) NESA Educators Training Institute
Abu Dhabi, U.A.E.
FEB. 6-7 (Natalie) GFIO 2-Day Workshop
Orlando,
4 - Are Common Assessments Worth It?
In this episode, Tom and Natalie ask, "Are Common Assessments Worth It?" Spoiler alert: they are, as long as certain fundamentals and conditions are adhered to. In particular, when common assessments are used formatively they can be a powerful process for enhanced learning for students and teachers!
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
Nov. 3-5: Aurora Institute Symposium
New Orleans, LA
RECE
3 - Feedback - Simple & Complex
In this episode, Tom and Natalie explore the topic of feedback. They discuss it as both simple and complex. It's simple because there is unanimous agreement in academia about the role feedback plays in increasing student learning. It's complex because there are many contributing factors that lead to feedback potentially being ineffective.
In the end, Tom & Nat leave you with six guidelines f
2 - Quieting the Grading Noise
In this episode of Assess THAT, Tom and Nat discuss how educators can quiet the grading noise. Whether it be the traditional graders on one side or the undgraders on the other, many educators can find themselves feeling uncertain about how to respond.
While the extreme positions often take center stage, especially online, it is the balanced positions that are more thoughtful, grounded, and helpf
1 - Five Reasons we're still "doing" Assessment
In this first episode of Assess THAT, Tom & Nat discuss the five reasons assessment must still be an essential part of every educator's professional learning plan.
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
Sep. 23-24: GFIO 2-Day (Tom)
Madison, WI
Sep. 25-26: SBLA 2-Day (Tom)
Madison, WI
Sep. 30-Oct. 1: GFIO 2-Day (Natalie)
Sacramento, CA
Oct. 17-19: NESA Fall Leadership Conference (Tom)
Dubai,
TRAILER - Introducing Assess THAT with Tom & Nat (Assessment, Grading,
Introducing Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! Tom Schimmer and Natalie Vardabasso will be your go-to podcast for everything assessment. From formative assessment to feedback to grading, Tom and Natalie will share their expertise and experience to help you grow your assessment literacy to bring about a transformation within your classroom, your school, or even your district.
Beginning on September
[TSP Classic] John Hattie (October 2022)
OCTOBER 2022: Tom was joined by Dr. John Hattie for a conversation about his Visible Learning research.
Visible Learning Website: www.visible-learning.org
Hattie Foundation Website: www.hattieff.org
UYES PODCAST
UYES podcast link
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
"Redefining Student Accountability" (NEW)
"Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"
"Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investmen
[TSP Classic] Yvette Jackson (May 2021)
MAY 2021: Tom was joined by Dr. Yvette Jackson, author of Pedagogy of Confidence, to discuss the equity issue surrounding Special Education and Gifted programs.
Yvette Jackson does not have an active social media presence.
Email Yvette Jackson: DRJNUA@aol.com
National Urban Alliance: www.nuatc.org
UYES PODCAST
UYES podcast link
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
"Redefining Student Accountability" (NEW
INTRODUCING: UYES Podcast with Tom Schimmer & Natalie Vardabasso
Are you feeling stifled in your job? Have you gone from being celebrated to being the problem? Are you ready to become your boss and finally live the life you were always meant for?
If you answered 'yes' to any of the above questions, then this new podcast from Tom Schimmer and Natalie Vardabasso is for you! In each episode, Tom & Nat want to share their wisdom & experiences of leaving the
[TSP Classic] Zaretta Hammond (June 2022)
JUNE 2022: Tom was joined by author Zaretta Hammond to discuss her 2015 book, "Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain."
Zaretta on X: @Ready4rigor
Zaretta on Instagram: @crtandthebrain
Zaretta on Facebook: CRTandtheBrain
Zaretta on LinkedIn: Zaretta Hammond
Zaretta’s Website: www.crtandthebrain.com
UYES PODCAST
UYES podcast link
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
"Redefining Student Accountability"
I'm Back | Paula Maeker | UYES!
In this episode, Tom shares where he has been and why it has been six months since his last episode. Then (4:54) Tom is joined by his good friend and colleague Paula Maeker to discuss the most promising practices in Literacy. Finally, Tom shares the trailer (52:55) for a new business/podcast venture called "UYES with Tom & Nat!" It's a podcast that helps stifled employees Unleash their Entrepr
Elevate Your Moments | Ashley Aoki | Assessment Pressure
In the Mindset Moment (2:44), Tom talks about why it is essential to elevate your moments. Elevating the little things will make your life feel elevated. Then (8:00) Tom is joined by teacher and former student Ashley Aoki to discuss "Spirals of Inquiry." Finally, in Assessment Corner (56:34), Tom discusses what we need to examine and do when students feel a disproportionate amount of pressure when
BONUS: Assessment, Change, & Mindset through Story (w/ Natalie Vardabasso)
In this bonus crossover episode, Tom is joined by co-author Natalie Vardabasso to discuss their upcoming book "Rehumanizing Assessment through Story." This led to further conversations about the power of stories:
Assessment through Story (1:50)
Change through Story (22:46)
Mindset through Story (36:23)
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
Natalie on Twitter: @natabasso
Natalie on Instagram: @nataba
Why Not Me? | Jon Orr | Implementation Errors
In the Mindset Minute (1:58), Tom shares the mantra "Why not me?" as one way of trying to combat imposter syndrome. Then (5:50) Tom is joined by Math expert and podcast host Jon Orr to discuss the state of the Math Wars and all things mathematics. Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:35), Tom discusses why it's important for us to distinguish between the non-negotiables of change and implementation e
Allow the Negative | Alex Kajitani | Assessment Dilemma
In the Mindset Minute (1:53), Tom shares his thoughts on why we must allow our negative thoughts to flow through us. Then (6:18) Tom is joined by author, speaker, and trapping Mathematician Alex Kajitani to discuss his latest book, "Owning It: Proven Strategies to Ace and Embrace Teaching. Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:20), Tom discusses a common assessment dilemma.
Alex on "X" (Twitter)
Alex
Act Toward | Discipline as Noun | Judge Holistically
Mindset Minute (2:11) focuses on why we need to "act toward" what we want. Then (5:35), Tom describes how his view of school discipline evolved to one where "discipline" is something we help students become, not what we do to them. Finally, in Assessment Corner (17:47), Tom suggests that when we assess for the summative purpose, we need to judge holistically.
UPCOMING EVENTS
Grading from the Ins
Act as If | Relationships through Learning | Levels to %
Mindset Minute (2:23) focuses on the concept of "act as if" where we create present emotions that match how we want to feel when what we want manifests. Then (7:24), Tom asserts that building relationships with students comes through their learning, not before. Finally, in Assessment Corner (17:44), Tom answers a listener's question about converting proficiency levels to percentage-based grades.
Spot Upfront | Cale Birk | Know Your Purpose
In the Mindset Minute (2:13), Tom shares a mantra that he's used to create a mindset that everything always works out for him. Then (6:06) Tom is joined by author, speaker, and friend Cale Birk to talk about why leaders need to plan for impact, not just change. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:01), Tom reminds listeners about the importance of knowing your assessment purpose in advance of any ass
Biology of Belief | Nikta Afonso | Time to Pushback
In the Mindset Minute (2:36) Tom highlights the book, “The Biology of Belief” by Dr. Bruce Lipton. It is one of the most influential books in terms of Tom’s mindset and outlook on life. Then (8:36) Tom is joined by singer, songwriter, and former student Nikita Afonso to talk about her growing music career. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:51), Tom asserts that it’s time to ask those who resist as
Mindset Minute | Julie Schmidt Hasson | Now is the Time
In the Mindset Minute (2:22) - a new segment - Tom asserts that the power of positive thinking is as much about the present as it is about the future. Then (6:35) Tom is joined by educator and author Julie Schmidt Hasson to discuss her latest offering, "Pause, Ponder, and Persist in the Classroom: How Teachers Turn Challenges into Opportunities for Impact." Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:48), T
BONUS: New BC Reporting Order
In this bonus episode, Tom offers his perspective on the New Reporting Order in British Columbia set to be implemented in the 2023-24 school year. In PART 1, Tom highlights the backstory and development (and poor messaging) surrounding the implementation of the new curriculum when it was first developed several years ago. In PART 2 (15:15), Tom takes aim at the obsession some have with percentage-
Reset on Failure | Dylan Wiliam (Pt. 2) | Fake Grading War
In Don’t @ Me (2:31), Tom opens with an assertion that it's time for a collective societal reset on what it means to fail. Then (12:24) Tom is once again joined by Dylan Wiliam for part 2 of a conversation about classroom assessment. Finally, in Assessment Corner (59:04), Tom provides some commentary on the Fake Grading War created by by Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction, Tom Horne.
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Exceptions Prove the Rule | Dylan Wiliam | Cumulative Effect
In Don’t @ Me (3:56), Tom opens by explaining why the exceptions prove the rule rather than discredit it. Then (10:57) Tom is joined by Dylan Wiliam for part 1 (of 2) of a conversation about classroom assessment. Finally, in Assessment Corner (50:12), Tom provides a year-end reminder that grades should reflect the cumulative effect of instruction, not the points they've accumulated over time.
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Can vs Should | Shaunak Roy | Redefining Student Accountability (2)
In Don’t @ Me (1:45), Tom opens by contrasting the difference between what we can do and what we should do in education, especially with ChatGPT. Then (8:43) Tom is joined by Shaunak Roy, founder of Yellowdig, a community-driven active and experiential learning platform. Finally, in Assessment Corner (45:24), in part 2 of 2, Tom shares more details about his latest book, "Redefining Student Accou
Less is More | Eric Sheninger | Redefining Student Accountability
In Don’t @ Me (2:11), Tom opens by reminding listeners that when it comes to making an argument in favour of something, or when you are trying to convince others to change to a more favourable practice, less is more! Then (9:47) Tom is joined by author Eric Sheninger to discuss his 2021 book, "Disruptive Thinking: Preparing Learners for Their Future." Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:11), Tom, in
Thank you! | Ron Ritchhart | Idea Cults in Assessment
In Don’t @ Me (2:19), Tom celebrates episode 100 with a thank you to listeners. Then (7:50) Tom is joined by researcher and author Dr. Ron Ritchhart to discuss how we develop cultures of thinking in our classrooms. Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:06), Tom cautions listeners against idea cults that can emerge in discussions about assessment and grading that lack nuance and context.
Ron on Twitt
ChatGPT in Education | Jessica Vance | ChatGPT & Assessment
In Don’t @ Me (2:17), Tom discusses the pros & cons of ChatGPT in K-12 education. Then (8:23) Tom is joined by author Jessica Vance to discuss her book, "Leading with a Lens of Inquiry." Finally, in Assessment Corner (43:16), Tom highlights ten ways ChatGPT can be used for classroom assessment.
Jessica on Twitter
Jessica on Instagram
www.leadingwithinquiry.com
UPCOMING EVENTS
GFIO Virtual 2
Last Thing You Said | Shelley Moore | Portfolios
In Don’t @ Me (2:37), Tom asked listeners to consider the question, "what's the last thing you said to yourself about yourself?" Then (10:11) Tom is joined by author and speaker, Shelley Moore to discuss the important aspects of equity, inclusion, & UDL. Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:47), Tom highlights why knowing its purpose is the most important part of implementing a portfolio system.
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Impact Update | Rob Dunlop | Overrater Explains
In Don’t @ Me (2:31), Tom provides an "impact" update, an update on how his #OneWord challenge is going so far. Then (9:20) Tom is joined by author Rob Dunlop to discuss his latest book, "Strive for Happiness in Education." Finally, in Assessment Corner (56:38), Tom provides a mantra to follow when there is a discrepancy between the student's self-assessment and the teacher's assessment.
Rob on
Cost of NOT Changing | Tim Stephenson | Next Generation Assessment
In Don’t @ Me (2:56), Tom discusses why, when considering any change, it's important to consider the cost of NOT changing as well. Then (8:53) Tom is joined by science teacher and podcast host Tim Stephenson to discuss the essential characteristics of teaching science in the 21st century. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:11), Tom highlights the key aspects of Next Generation Assessments.
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One Word Failure | Jan Chappuis | Anything but Arbitrary
In Don’t @ Me (2:46), Tom discusses how his One Word for 2022 was an epic failure and how he's going to give itone more shot. Then (7:35) Tom is joined by mentor, author, and consultant Jan Chappuis to discuss the evolution of assessment for learning over the past 20 years. Finally, in Assessment Corner (52:52), Tom highlights why grades should be anything but arbitrary.
LinkedIn: Jan Chappuis
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BONUS: Teach Better ’22 (Part 2)
In this bonus episode, Tom shares some highlights of the Teach Better '22 conference by interviewing presenters and participants while on Podcast Row. Today's Episode features:
Megan Balduf
Twitter: @MBalduf
Kevin Butler
Twitter: @TheKevinJButler
Tre Gammage
Twitter: @tregammage
Erik Francis
Twitter: @Maverikedu12
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
"Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Gradin
No Holiday Trophy | Top 5 Holiday Movies | Empowerment Ecosystem
In Don’t @ Me (2:32), Tom reminds listeners that there is no trophy at the end of the holidays and that it is important to find time for ourselves and rest. Then (6:40) Tom, highlights his Top 5 Holiday Movies of all time. Finally, in Assessment Corner (20:02), Tom is joined by Natalie Vardabasso and Colleen Dawson to highlight the "Empowerment Ecosystem," a program Natalie created to create a sup
Celebrate Your Wins | Kristine Tesoriero Mizzone | Culturally Responsive Assessment
In Don’t @ Me (2:44), Tom reminds listeners to celebrate their wins, no matter how small, medium, or large. Then, Tom is joined by education consultant Kristine Tesoriero Mizzone (8:40) to discuss the most important aspects of institutional coaching. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:12), Tom highlights some big ideas from an article he recently wrote about eliminating implicit bias in assessment.
Now is the Time | Kyle Pearce | Procedure for Inferences
In Don’t @ Me (1:34), Tom opens by asserting that NOW is the time to take the first step to accomplish any personal and/or professional goals you have for yourself. Then, Tom is joined by math teacher and podcaster Kyle Pearce (6:37), to discuss the elements of effective math instruction. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:12), Tom shares a view of assessment as a procedure for drawing inferences.
Get What You Give | Genein Letford | Personalized Exams
In Don’t @ Me (1:30), Tom opens with a reminder that when it comes to professional learning, you get out of it what you put into it. Then, Tom is joined by Genein Letford (9:01), to discuss her book, Seven Gems of Intercultural Creativity. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:44), Tom shares an idea on how to personalize final exams.
Genein on Twitter: @GeneinLetford
Genein on Instagram: @geneinlet
Two Choices | Eric Saibel | Rethinking Group Grades
In Don’t @ Me (2:11), Tom opens by addressing the widespread lack of student engagement and suggesting there are only two choices educators have in response. Then, Tom is joined by Eric Saibel (11:22), who is a co-founder of "Global School Play Day, for a conversation about the importance of unstructured play for children and teens. Finally, in Assessment Corner (58:11), Tom highlights why he is r
Relationship with Research | Laura Rizo | Standardized Test Engagement
In Don’t @ Me (1:50), Tom opens by asking listeners to reflect on their relationship with educational research. Then, Tom is joined by teen coach and staff developer Laura Rizo (10:55) for a conversation about student relationships, SEL, & family engagement. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:23), Tom answers a listener's question about how to increase student engagement in standardized testing.
BONUS: Teach Better ’22 (Part 1)
In this bonus episode, Tom shares some highlights of the Teach Better '22 conference by interviewing presenters and participants while on Podcast Row. Today's Episode features:
Suzanne Dailey
Twitter: @DaileySuzanne
Tricia Foster
Twitter: @CBtmfoster
Ken Ehrmann
Twitter: @KenEhrmann
Rob Dunlop
Twitter: @robdunlopEDU
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
"Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grad
Respectful Engagement | Dave Schmittou | AP Exam Format
In Don’t @ Me (1:50), Tom opens by contemplating the rules of "respectful" engagement when debating contentious issues. Then, Tom is joined by education author & speaker Dave Schmittou (8:55) for a conversation about his new book (co-authored with Katelyn Giordano) entitled, "Poking the Bear: A guide for engaging in the conversations that matter most." Finally, in Assessment Corner (54:52), Tom an
Dear Society | Dawn Harris | Reassessing ’Big Rocks’
In Don’t @ Me (1:22), Tom opens with a Letter to Society regarding why so many teachers are leaving the profession. Then, Tom is joined by education author & teacher Dawn Harris (16:43) for a conversation about her book, "Plan like a PIRATE." Finally, in Assessment Corner (54:52), Tom answers a listener's question about reassessment.
Dawn on Twitter: @DHarrisEdS
Dawn on Instagram: @dharriseds
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Complainers | Joe Feldman | Rubrics 101
In Don’t @ Me (2:29), Tom complains about complainers who have turned complaining into a personality trait driven by ego. Then, Tom is joined by Joe Feldman (12:38) for a conversation about his book, "Grading for Equity." Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:01:35), Tom reviews some important aspects needed to develop high-quality rubrics.
Joe on Twitter: @JoeCFeldman
Facebook Group: Grading for Equ
Must Be Measurable | John Hattie | The Good Ol’ Test
In Don’t @ Me (2:37), Tom shares his thoughts on how anything schools want to count in the court of public opinion must be measurable. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. John Hattie (12:25) for part two of a conversation about the Visible Learning research. Finally, in Assessment Corner (52:38), Tom discusses the good ol’ test, and how it can still fit within a balanced approach to assessment.
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Quiet Quitting | John Hattie | Willful Distortion
In Don’t @ Me (2:15), Tom shares his thoughts on the recent social media phenomenon called "Quiet Quitting." Then, Tom is joined by Dr. John Hattie (12:16) for part one of a conversation about the Visible Learning research. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:11), Tom discusses why it might be time to push back against those who push back at the elimination of punitive grading practices.
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Can You Be Led? | Connie Hamilton | Fractured Relationship
In Don’t @ Me (2:53), Tom opens by asking us all to consider whether we can set our egos aside and be open to being led. Then, Tom is joined by educator and author Connie Hamilton (9:33) to discuss her book, “Hacking Questions: 11 Answers that Create a Culture of Inquiry in your Classroom.” Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:38), Tom identifies the six most common ways the relationship between the
Reborn a Critic | Livia Chan | Synthesizing Standards
In Don't @ Me (5:29), Tom declares that in his next life, he wants to return as a critic. Then, Tom is joined by author, speaker, and Teach Better Digital Coordinator Livia Chan (11:16) to discuss the importance of building strong relationships with our students. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:48), Tom talks about why synthesizing our standards is the only way to authentically cover and assess
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