AUDIT 15 FUN
Internal Audit podcast. One 15-minute episode at least every 15 days (or so).
Episodes
Ep. 240 - From Deal-Maker to People-Builder - Matthew Bisignano
Matthew Bisignano joins the podcast to share his unlikely path, from geography student to mapmaker to master deal-maker, and how that shaped his leadership style.Treat people like partners, recognize the first downs (not just touchdowns), lead each generation differently, and always be "all in."Plus the internal audit joke he couldn't resist.
Ep. 239 - Small Teams - Sandeep Das and John Johnson
What does it take to build a credible internal audit function when you're working with a small team?In this episode I sit down with Sandeep Das, Head of Internal Audit at Elysium Healthcare, and John Johnson, Partner at Core Audit Partners, for a panel discussion on the unique challenges small audit shops face:- Establishing influence without an implicit mandate- Winning hearts and minds, and- Kno
Ep. 238 - Talent Isn't the Problem, Exposure Is - Arpna Aggarwal
"The issue was never talent; it was exposure."IT auditor Arpna Aggarwal joins AUDIT 15 FUN to talk about building a community for women in audit and tech across Tanzania and beyond, and why AI governance conversations are missing African voices. Join me in the discussion as she lays out her call to action on the issue.
Ep. 237 - DTCC AI Hackathon Silver Medalists
Meet the DTCC Hackathon silver medal team: Rich Penfield, Ashes Basnet, Jamie Ontiveros, Wesley Raider, and Marina Tieman (missed Kaine Kenerly).The team reveals why they joined the AI hackathon, how we built a powerful tool in days (no coding background needed), and the biggest takeaways: start small, don’t fear AI, and collaborate.Fast, fun, and an inspiration for auditors ready to innovate.
Ep. 236 - What Nobody is Talking about with AI - James Paterson
Tokenization. Context windows. Lost in the middle. Silent failures. RLHF. Anthropomorphism. Quantization. Top-P and Top-K. RAG. Deterministic checks.If you haven’t heard of some of these topics, this podcast episode is for you.
Ep. 235 - Secret Agent - Richard LaTulip
Former Secret Service agent Richard LaTulip joins the podcast to discuss cybercrime investigations, undercover operations, and the human factors that can derail even the biggest cases.He shares how a simple printer fix launched his cyber forensics career, the realities behind tracking global hackers, and lessons from Operation Carter Kaos, including a $75,000 undercover deal that nearly collapsed
Ep. 234 - Small Teams - Sandeep Das
Small team? No problem.Sandeep Das explains how lean audit functions drive real impact, without more budget or headcount.1) Scale smart (co-source, analytics, guest auditors)2) Build systems to move faster3) Build influence with leadership4) Stop waiting. Start doing.Buy your copy here: www.routledge.com/Audit-Alchemy-Small-Teams-BIG-Impact---A-Guide-to-Internal-Audit-Excellence/Das/p/book/9781032
Ep. 233 - 24 Hours. Global Audit. No Excuses. - Dominik Foerschler
A 24-hour global audit conference.No travel.No time zone excuses.The Audit Research Center is pushing the profession forward with a live, nonstop conference across every region. This episode breaks down what’s coming:30+ sessions spanning macro risk to real AI use casesPractical applications: planning, fieldwork, reporting, and beyondIf you want real use cases, not theory, this is it.
Ep. 232 - Inside the Largest Lottery Fraud in US History - Terry Rich
Former Iowa Lottery CEO Terry Rich shares how a suspicious claim turned into a multi-state investigation, exposing an insider who rigged the system.This episode goes beyond the headline:• The hot dog clue that cracked the case• How tiny red flags exposed a massive fraud• Why transparency increased trust and sales• The real-world power of auditorsIf you think controls are boring, this story will ch
Ep. 231 - Benjamin Ritter - The Executive Podcast
Most leaders hit a moment where they feel stuck.Dr. Benjamin Ritter works with CEOs and senior executives at those exact crossroads.In this episode, he shares what he’s learned about leadership growth, overcoming impostor syndrome, and why the best leaders focus on coaching, delegation, and honest feedback.
Ep. 230 - The Performance Paradox - Eduardo Briceno
Busy does not equal better.In this episode, I sit down with Eduardo Briceno, author of The Performance Paradox, to explore why constant execution can actually hurt performance.We break down the performance zone vs. learning zone and what leaders can do to help teams stop grinding, and start improving.A must-listen for auditors and leaders who want smarter results, not just more work.Eduardo's
Ep. 229 - First 100 Days in Internal Audit - Ben Moulder
Your first 100 days in Internal Audit can define your entire career.In this episode, internal audit storyteller Benjamin Moulder explains why early perception is everything, how “GPA starts at zero,” and what new auditors must do to build credibility and trust.Work ethic, communication, networking, and certifications, we covered it all.
Ep. 228 - Managing the Hell out of your Audit - Bill Englehaupt
Managing the hell out of your audit.Bill Englehaupt joins the podcast to break down why audits run long, how rework kills morale, and the practical fixes that actually improve audit execution.auditology.info
Ep. 227 - From Enron to Agile - Burke Willis
From Enron to Agile.Burke Willis quit Enron at the right time, and that experience helped shape a career grounded in integrity and change. He is now helping reshape how internal audit projects are done.We talk about why perfect audit plans don’t exist, how two-week cycles accelerate insight, why auditors should tell business stories (not just report numbers), and the power of defining “done” and g
Ep. 226 - The Big Three - Brian Kuenzi
In this episode, finance leader Brian Kenzie explores how the explosive rise of passive ownership has transformed capital markets, and what it means for internal audit and enterprise risk management. The Big Three may now influence internal audit more than the Big Four. If you don't know who the Big Three are then this episode is for you.
Ep. 225 - Fraud Prevention Best Practices with a Former FBI Employee - DJ Rossini
In this episode, I sat down with DJ Rossini, Managing Director at Grant Thornton and former FBI Chief Counsel and Compliance Officer.DJ brings a wealth of experience across healthcare fraud, counter-terrorism, money laundering, internal investigations, and corporate compliance.We go over what really works in fraud detection and prevention, including:How a “see something, say something” culture is
Ep. 224 - Data Science - Sai Popuri
What, so what, now what? That’s the heart of data science.In this episode, I'm joined by Sai Popuri, a data science expert who explains the three pillars of analytics:Descriptive – What happened?Predictive – So what’s likely to happen next?Prescriptive – Now what should we do about it?We also talk about how internal auditors can play a powerful role in turning data into better business decisio
Ep. 223 - Inspiring Women in Audit - Tracie Marquardt
In this episode, I welcome Tracie Marquardt, host of the Inspiring Women in Audit podcast.Tracie shares the story behind her mission to amplify women’s voices in internal audit and how she grew a global community from scratch.One movement. One mission.
Ep. 222 - Do Certification really matter? - Jas Gill and Asim Fareeduddin
Are certifications truly worth it?From real-world hiring scenarios to the career impact of credentials, Jas and Asim explore whether letters after your name matter more than results, how certifications build credibility, and why lifelong learning is key to staying relevant.They also gave their own ratings on how much certifications really matter...and let’s just say, the average might not be what
Ep. 221 - Oladayo Duduyemi - CoAuditor
Oladayo Duduyemi, co-founder of CoAuditor, joins the podcast to show his solution, streamlining control testing, client collaboration, and even detecting synthetic documents.
Ep. 220 - Overthinking and people-pleasing - Dr. Lorwen Nagel
Harvard-trained psychologist Dr. Lorwen Nagel, who worked with the Dalai Lama, explains overthinking and people-pleasing. Why we do it, how it holds us back, and what to do about it.
Ep. 219 - Auditing in Healthcare - Daniel Clayton
Healthcare is massive. Auditing in this industry is no small task.In this episode, Daniel Clayton, Head of Audit at UF Health, details what makes auditing in this industry uniquely complex, and shares insights on where internal auditors can truly add value in one of the most regulated and essential industries in the US.
Ep. 218 - Sales & Marketing Audit - Oleg Koslov
How do you audit sales and marketing? Oleg Koslov brings global insights, five practical pillars, and quick wins every team can use.
Ep. 217 - IIA Mentor Program - Alex Rusate
Learn about the Emerging Leader Program from Alex Rusate, who advanced from Sr. IT Auditor to Sr. VP of Audit after participating in the program.Program link: https://tinyurl.com/43nbxuv3
Ep. 216 - AI Assurance - Greg Hutchins
AI is a black box. Even its creators can't explain, so how do we provide assurance?In this episode, Greg Hutchins, author of Trust Me, AI Risk Management, unpacks the billion-dollar question of AI audit and why the future belongs to those who learn to use AI. Are you a doomer or a boomer?
Ep. 215 - 3Ls High Performing Teams - Aura Rad
What drives a truly high-performing audit team? Aura Rad shares her powerful Three Ls model:Lean on each otherLearn from each otherLeverage each other“You don’t just fall into a great team; it takes intention, effort, and a marathon mindset.”#Audit15Fun #InternalAudit #Leadership
Ep. 214 - Story Telling with Shagen Ganason
Global CAE and author Shagen Ganason joins to share how storytelling can make audit findings unforgettable and actionable. We talk about The Storyteller’s Ledger, why your final 60 seconds matter most, and how one reframed audit changed everything.Buy the book here: https://tinyurl.com/562baavvConnect with Shagen here: https://tinyurl.com/yc5z5sen
Ep. 213 — Level Up Your Compliance - Mary Shirley
In this episode, I sit down with Mary Shirley, VP & Chief Compliance & Privacy Officer at Scion Health and author of Level Up: 65 Hacks for Compliance & Ethics Professionals. Mary shares her favorite hack, how to spot real ethical leaders vs. “for-show” ones, and gives her take on the claim that “non-compliance isn’t a risk.”Tune in to hear her perspective.
Ep. 212 - Jamie Meziere - From Intern to CAE
From Intern to CAE at FedEx: In this episode, I sit down with Jamie Meziere, newly promoted Chief Audit Executive at FedEx.Jamie shares her remarkable journey from a small-town Mississippi intern to leading FedEx’s global audit function.We discuss career pivots, self-doubt, taking bold leaps, and what she hopes every new intern believes on their first day.A must-listen for anyone on the internal a
Ep. 211 - Will the PCAOB cease to exist? - Paul Munter
A new bill proposes abolishing the PCAOB and transferring audit oversight to the SEC. What would that mean for audit quality, accountability, and investor trust?Paul Munter joins to discuss:Could audits suffer without a dedicated watchdog?Are Big Four firms too big to challenge?Can AI improve judgment—or replace it?What values must the profession hold onto?A must-listen for anyone in audit, compli
Ep. 210 - Enron, FTX, and the Ethics of Legal Fraud - Bethany McLean
In this episode, renowned journalist and author Bethany McLean joins to discuss 'legal fraud,' whether we're becoming more desensitized to corporate misconduct, and the one question she’d ask if she were on Tesla’s board.
Ep. 209 - Public Sector - Matthew Oleniuk
From Canada to the UAE, Matthew Oleniuk brings 15+ years of internal audit experience in government.In this episode, we unpack the unique risks of public sector projects, why budgets go sideways, and how auditors can shift from checking boxes to driving real effectiveness.Bonus: Matthew shares a free health check for public service projects.Diagnose Your Project
Ep. 208 - Tipper X - Tom Hardin
Tom Hardin, aka Tipper X, was just starting his hedge fund career when the FBI caught him outside a dry cleaner.He wore a wire. Helped take down 20 others. And lived to tell the tale.In this episode, Tom breaks down how pressure, silence, and culture led him to cross the line and what auditors must understand to spot the signs before it’s too late.
Ep. 207 - Treasury - John Engeman
On this episode of Audit 15 Fun, I’m joined by seasoned finance and treasury expert John Engeman.We discuss the goals of a treasury department, how to measure success, and the most overlooked risks during treasury audits. A must-listen for any auditor doing a treasury review!
Ep. 206 - Perla Habchi - Every Chapter Needs a Perla
On this episode of Audit 15 Fun, I’m joined by Perla Habchi, an emerging internal audit leader from Canada.Perla shares how she stumbled into internal audit, built a framework to audit innovation during the pandemic, and became a tireless advocate for student outreach.From national awards to helping students land their first audit jobs, her journey is inspiring. Every local chapter needs a Perla,
Ep. 205 - The Rogue Trader - Nick Leeson
Nick Leeson, the man behind the $800M collapse of Barings Bank, joins Audit 15 Fun.We skip the headline story and dig into what internal auditors should've asked and seen, as well as what he wishes someone had asked.Simple things.Big consequences.
Ep. 204 - From Lab to Audit - Rethinking Talent Pipelines - Heather Lascano
From molecular biologist to business owner to internal auditor, Heather Lascano’s journey is anything but traditional.In this episode, we talk about the surprising overlap between science, entrepreneurship, and internal audit and why our profession needs to rethink the talent pipeline.
Ep. 203 - Marco Nutini - AI in Risk Management
In this episode, I'm joined by Marco Nutini, former Chief Risk Officer at Embraer and the mind behind RiskLeap.com.Marco highlights how AI is revolutionizing risk management, moving from isolated risk assessments to contextual, decision-focused auditing. Marco shares his innovative course and toolset for building contextual knowledge graphs.
Ep. 202 - Senate File 478 - Rob Sand
Iowa State Auditor Rob Sand joins the show to discuss Senate File 478, a law that limits access to key audit information. He shares concrete examples of how it has affected oversight and explains why audit professionals across the country are raising concerns.
Ep. 201 - Personality Traits - Jas Gill and Karem Obeid
Can personality traits elevate your audit team?Jas Gill and Karem Obeid join to explore how understanding personalities boosts team energy, engagement, and results without putting people in boxes.
Ep. 200 - Karolina Aleksandrova - Audit Leadership Forum
In this episode, I’m joined by Karolina Aleksandrova, a leader based in Ukraine.We discuss the upcoming Audit Leadership Forum, which brings together 150+ CAEs from 20 countries, and Karolina shares how resilience has shaped her work and life amid the ongoing war.A powerful story of strength and global connection in the audit profession.Website for the conference: www.audit-forum.tech
Ep. 199 - Break Barriers to Innovate - Gijsbertus J.J. van Wulfen
Are you an "in-a-wait-tor" or an innovator?Are you an "I-nnovator" or a "we-nnovator"?There’s a difference, and it matters.Understanding that difference can make innovation more effective in your organization.Listen to this masterclass from Gijs van Wulfen.Link to his book here: https://tinyurl.com/4p2y6bd3
Ep. 198 - Mike Ware - Inspector General
In this episode of Audit 15 Fun, we’re joined by Mike Ware, former Inspector General of the Small Business Administration and Social Security Administration. We discuss the crucial role of IGs in promoting transparency, uncovering fraud, and preserving oversight across government programs. Mike also reflects on his unexpected dismissal in early 2025, an event that sparked important conversations a
Ep. 197 - Aadesh Gandhre - Audit Innovator Award
Last week at the GAM Conference, Aadesh and his team received the Protiviti Audit Innovator Award.In this episode, he shares what they did to earn the award and the journey that led them there. #InternalAudit #Innovation
Ep. 196 - Python for Auditors - Jamie Ontiveros
Video episode: jontaber.substack.com or click here.Course website here.PyAudit website here.Connect with Jamie here.
Ep. 195 - What is the best industry for a career in internal audit?
What are the best industries for a career in internal audit?Which industry would you choose for internal audit?Listen to my perspective and let me know yours!
Ep. 195 - Siebrand Wolberink - Truth or Dare
In this episode, we introduce a new challenge:Three questions.Only two choices—tell the truth or take the dare.Our first brave participant, Siebrand Wolberink, steps up to the challenge. Will he reveal all?Many thanks to Siebrand for being the first to participate in this experiment.
Ep. 194 - Rania Bejjani - Next Level
CAE at 32 years old.Experience in multinational organizations and close to 20 former direct reports who are now CAEs themselves.What's Rania's formula for success?Listen to find out.
Ep. 193 - Why did I start my podcast?
Why did I start my podcast?How many countries has it reached?What unexpected things happened from it?Why do I continue doing it?
Ep. 192 - Banking 101 - John Maxfield
Special episode for internal auditors looking to break into the banking industry or elevate their skills if they're already in the field. Listen in for expert insights from John Maxfield of Maxfield on Banks.
Ep. 191 - Shark Tank Pitch - Rob Berry
This episode is best experienced on video.Check it out here: https://tinyurl.com/bdwnkycs
Ep. 190 - RCM with AI - Arturo Navarro
Build a risk and control matrix in any language in under 5 minutes.
Video episode: https://jontaber.substack.com/p/ai-use-case?r=2frx45
Arturo Navarro's website: www.quantumconsultingstrategies.com
Ep. 189 - AI Challenge
Here is my challenge to the Internal Audit community.
We talk a lot about AI, but let’s go beyond just improving reports or defining project scopes.
I want to hear about advanced AI use cases you’ve implemented in your practice.
f you have a real-world example, let's share it!
Ep. 188 - McMillion - Brian Lazarte and James Lee Hernandez
The fascinating backstory of the 'McMillion$' docuseries, which covered the decade-long scheme to defraud the McDonald's Monopoly game.
Join the conversation with the documentary's Executive Directors, Brian Lazarte and James Lee Hernandez, as they share their one crucial lesson for the internal audit community. Tune in to discover more.
Ep. 187 - AI Agents are Hype - Austin Starks
You are an absolute moron for believing in the hype of “AI Agents”.
That's what Austin Starks had to say. He wrote an article on the topic.
What made him write the article and why? What would change his mind on the topic?
Listen to find out.
Ep. 186 - Stakeholder Management - Kristian Bollerup
Imagine being tasked with building an audit department—and later having the CEO personally request you to do it again at his new company.
That’s exactly what happened to Kristian Bollerup.
Hear his story and discover the three key ingredients for a winning formula in stakeholder management.
Ep. 185 - Assurance Mapping - James Paterson
Standard 9.5 Coordination and Reliance reinforce the need for internal audit to better coordinate with other assurance providers.
How to best do it?
Listen to James Paterson to find out.
Ep. 184 - AI Agents are taking over - Alex Ruehle
AI agents are taking over.
But how can organizations provide assurance over the unique risks they bring?
Listen to a thought-provoking discussion on the topic with Alex Ruehle.
Ep. 183 - Policies and Procedures - Greg Caporelli
Policies and procedures need to follow the KIS approach.
Keep It Simple.
What else should you do?
Listen to Greg Caporelli to find out.
Ep. 182 - Resilience - Colin Howden
Resilience in internal audit - what it means, why it’s crucial, and how to develop it?
Listen Colin Howden as he shares personal stories and actionable advice for navigating tough challenges.
Ep. 181 - Cómo auditar el cumplimiento - Angelica Escudero y Hervé Gloaguen
Cómo auditar el cumplimiento?
Descúbrelo con Angelica Escudero y Hervé Gloaguem.
Ep. 180 - AI Agents in IA - Dominik Foerschler
What can your IA department do to use AI agents?
Listen to Dominik Foerschler to find out.
His YouTube channel:
ARC Institute DE Überblick Serious Business Games
His website:
Home | ARC-Institute | Serious Business Games
Video recording:
AI Agents in IA - by Jon Taber - Jon’s Substack
Ep. 179 - Lindsay Patterson - Promoting Internal Audit
The talent pipeline in Internal Audit needs a boost—but what can we do about it?
Listen to my latest podcast episode with Lindsey Patterson for actionable strategies:
✅ Connect with Lindsey✅ Partner with your local universities✅ Leverage resources from the IIA
Let's move beyond discussing the challenge—let’s be the solution. Help shape the future of Internal Audit.
#InternalAudit #TalentPipeline #
Ep. 178 - Is the 3rd line of defense an illusion? - Iulia Deaconu
Is the 3rd Line of Defense just an illusion?
Don’t fall into the trap of merely running a process—focus on driving the business forward.
Gain valuable insights on this topic from Iulia Deaconu.
Ep. 177 - Don't be a Good Little Puppy - Herve Gloaguen
Don't be a sycophant. Don't be a good little puppy.
What to do instead? Listen to Herve Gloaguen.
Ep. 176 - Corporate Governance - Vera Cherepanova and Javed Akbar
Is Internal Audit primarily responsible for corporate governance?
Should it be considered the primary expert on corporate governance?
Gain insights on this topic from Vera Cherepanova and Javed Akbar.
Ep. 175 - All Roads lead to Internal Audit - Ian Senior
From wanting to be a dentist, to musician, to then accountant, and finally internal auditor. Listen to Ian Senior's story and how all roads lead to internal audit.
Ep. 174 - What is the Future of IA in Corporate Governance - Adrian Resag and Benoit Lescot
What is the future of Internal Audit in Corporate Governance?
And where do you set the limit? Would you audit your own Board of Directors?
Listen for insights from Adrian Resag and Benoit Lescot.
Ep. 173 - Persuasion - Brian Tremblay
Wondering how to handle a challenging audit client?
Connect with them—but how?
Listen to Brian Tremblay to learn more.
Ep. 172 - Complacent vs Ambitious CAE Part 2 - David Hill and Kamal Gazi
Be the chess player, not the chess piece.
Join us for an engaging conversation with innovator David Hill and rising IA leader Kamal Gazi as they share actionable insights on the strategies to embrace—and pitfalls to avoid—to elevate your internal audit game.
Ep. 171 - TLDR - Gary Bandy
Your last audit report went unread because it was too long, and during your last presentation, the audience struggled to follow along since they were focused on the dense PowerPoint slides.
Listen to Gary Bandy for practical, easy-to-implement tips to prevent these issues.
Ep. 170 - Can we be independent? - Melissa Pici and Joseph Zumasigee
Here is the million-dollar question: “Can internal auditors actually stay independent?”
Listen to Melissa Pici and Joseph Zumasigee discuss what it really takes to stay impartial when you're pulled into advising roles that sometimes walk the line of independence.
Where do you draw the line?
Ep. 169 - Internal Audit Collective - Tom O'Reilly
There is a power in the collective. Different perspectives. Benchmarking. We should do more of that in the internal audit profession. Listen to Tom discuss some of the top projects he's worked on and how collective insights led to their success.. For more resources, visit his website at www.internalauditcollective.com, the go-to hub for internal audit leaders wanting to elevate their skills.
Ep. 168 - Gen Z shortage is your fault - Rob Berry and Andy Kovacs
The Gen Z shortage in the internal audit profession is your fault, CAEs.
That's what Rob Berry's proposition was during this debate, and Andy Kovacs sort of disagreed with it, or did he?
Ep. 167 - Complacent vs Ambitious CAE - Alan Maran and Jennifer Anderson
Are you a complacent or ambitious CAE?
How does that affect your team?
Listen to Alan Maran and Jennifer Anderson discuss those traits and share the one message they have to complacent CAEs.
Episode 166 - AI Use Cases - Dominick Tonnarini
From testing 25 samples to over a million.That's the power of AI, and it is all within reach.Listen to this and other use cases from Dominick Tonnarini.Document mentioned during the episode:https://inthecloud.withgoogle.com/gemini-for-google-workspace-prompt-guide/dl-cd.html
Episode 165 - Career Progression - Amanda Pope
What should you do to progress in your internal audit career?
There are many things, but the first thing should be to...
Listen to Amanda Pope's advice. She's been there, done that, got the role.
Episode 164 - Stop Sending Emails - Yasemin Agatan and Kristian Hawkes
Stop sending emails.
What to do instead?
Listen to Yasemin Agatan and Kristian Hawkes to find out.
Episode 163 - Don't Stress me Out - Rob Berry and Soneel Choraria
What do you do to reduce work stress for yourself and your team?
Why are workers stressed to begin with?
Listen to Rob Berry and Soneel Choraria highlight some root causes and what leaders can do to address them.
Episode 162 - Mastering Collaboration - Gretchen Anderson
How do you collaborate when you disagree?
What can leaders do to foster collaboration?
What are the most underrated skills of good collaborators?
Listen to Gretchen Anderson, author of the book Mastering Collaboration, for answers to these questions and more insights on the topic.
https://www.gretchenanderson.com/
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