Nevertheless
Nevertheless is a raw and honest podcast about two people who chose to follow Jesus, even when it meant walking away from their marriage and the LGBTQ life they once shared. It explores themes of surrender, trust, and obedience to God, sharing personal struggles and lessons learned along the way. The podcast invites listeners who are questioning or on a similar journey to find grace and healing.
Episodes
Season 2 : Episode 7 | Rebecca
After years of brokenness and believing she would never love a man again, Rebecca entered the LGBTQ lifestyle while searching for identity and healing. As she considered transitioning and building a new life apart from God, Jesus pursued her through a powerful dream that changed everything.In this episode, Rebecca vulnerably shares how God met her in her darkest season, healed her deepest wounds,
Season 2 : Episode 6 | Xavier
Xavier Saunders is a Christian creator and storyteller with a passion for biblical truth, identity, and helping others pursue a life fully surrendered to Jesus.After searching for fulfillment in all the wrong places, Xavier encountered the transforming love of Christ and discovered the identity he had always been looking for. Today, he uses his platform to encourage others to know Jesus, stand fir
Season 2 : Episode 5 | Courtney
Courtney Schweinsberg’s story is a beautiful reminder that God never stops pursuing His children.After years of searching for purpose and fulfillment, Courtney encountered Jesus in a life-changing way and discovered the hope she had been looking for all along. Today, she serves faithfully in her local church and is passionate about sharing the Gospel through her testimony, social media, and missio
Season 2 : Episode 4 | Anthony
Anthony is a man of God. His claim to fame is simply that he is one of those that God saved. His ministry is focused on helping people see the truth of God's abundant grace that helps people live lives rich in holiness, beauty, purpose and power. He serves as a small group leader at his home church: People Church headquartered in Chicago and has a personal ministry focused on reaching online n
Season 2 : Episode 3 | Paloma
Paloma Alarcon is the founder of TrulyBeloved Ministry Shop, a Christian ministry dedicated to helping others experience the love of Jesus.After leaving a same-sex relationship to follow Christ, Paloma discovered that freedom isn’t just found in one moment of surrender—it is cultivated through discipleship, healing, repentance, and daily dependence on Jesus. In this conversation, she vulnerably sh
Season 2 : Episode 2 | Jess
Jess Darnell is from Nashville, TN, and has previously worked as an actor, disco DJ, donut fryer, screen printer, walking tour guide, and birthday clown. After living abroad in London for nearly ten years, Jess hit rock bottom, surrendered his life to Jesus Christ, and realised that being gay is a colossal waste of time! Now, he speaks on redemption, sexuality, and sobriety, and is documenting his
Season 2 : Episode 1 | Raven
At just 26 years old, Raven’s story is a powerful testimony of God’s redeeming grace. A Georgia native, Navy veteran, and former gang member, Raven shares how Jesus delivered her from addiction, homosexuality, and a nine-month psychedelic-induced psychosis that nearly took her life.Today, she serves as a full-time missionary in Atlanta with a passion to place Bibles into the hands of anyone in nee
Episode 7 | Healing After Separation
Separation wasn’t the end of our story — it was the beginning of deep healing.In this final episode, we share what life looked like after obedience. The conversations with family and friends. The grief, confusion, and unexpected peace. The slow rebuilding of identity, faith, and trust in God when the life we once knew was no longer ours.We talk honestly about the aftermath most people never see —
Episode 6 | Our Separation Testimony
This episode is the one many have been waiting for.After encountering God, conviction didn’t come all at once but it came clearly. What followed was the hardest decision we have ever made: choosing obedience, even when it cost us everything we thought our life would look like.In this episode, we share the real story behind our separation. Not from a place of shame, but from transformation. We talk
Episode 5 | Our Marriage Was an Idol
In this episode, we speak honestly about something God began revealing to us long before our separation — our marriage had become an idol.We loved each other deeply, but without realizing it, we had placed our relationship above obedience, above truth, and ultimately above God. What we once called love, God lovingly exposed as misplaced devotion.This episode walks through the conviction, the tensi
Episode 4 | New Church, New Convictions
After church hurt, we didn’t think we’d ever walk into another church again.But God wasn’t done with us.In this episode, we share what happened when we decided to try church again and how God slowly began to convict, reshape, and soften our hearts. We talk about “church shopping,” joining small groups, finding community, and the quiet moments where the Holy Spirit started speaking louder than our
EPISODE 3 | God, New Age, Witchcraft… Lost
In this episode, we open up about a season where we were searching for healing, truth, and spiritual fulfillment everywhere except God. From New Age practices to witchcraft and counterfeit spirituality, we share how deception can look like light when you don’t yet know the truth.We talk honestly about why these paths felt appealing, what drew us in, and how they ultimately left us more confused, a
EPISODE 2 | Church Hurt, LGBTQ+ Identity & Almost Walking Away from God
In this episode, we open up about the season of church hurt that deeply impacted our faith while being in the LGBTQ+ community. We share what it was like to walk into churches seeking God, only to feel misunderstood, unseen, or wounded by people who represented Him imperfectly.We talk honestly about the confusion, the disappointment, and how close we came to walking away from faith altogether. Thi
Episode 1 | Before Christ: Our Beginning
Before we ever knew God, before conviction, before surrender, there was a beginning.In this first episode of the Nevertheless Podcast, we take you back to who we were before Christ. We share our backgrounds, how we met, and the foundation our relationship was built on when Jesus was not at the center.This episode isn’t about judgment or hindsight perfection. It’s about honesty. About what love loo
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