The CIRS Group Podcast
This podcast focuses on Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS), a condition that can affect up to 25% of the population and is often triggered by environmental biotoxins such as mold, red tide, and Lyme disease. People with CIRS are unable to clear these toxins on their own, but the condition is treatable. The show aims to help listeners better understand and identify CIRS, especially those who might struggle with processing new information. Hosts Jacie and Barbara, co-founders of The CIRS Group, bring their experiences as certified nutrition and wellness coaches, along with their personal journeys as carnivores, to offer support and practical insights.
Episodes
Can't tolerate CIRS treatment? How to navigate intensification, stalls, and flares
Barbara and Jacie discuss what to do when the Shoemaker protocol/CIRS treatment feels intolerable. They stress testing the home (ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing at minimum, ideally including actinos and endotoxins) and choosing to leave, remediate, or use temporary “Band-Aids” like a safe room with an Air Oasis, frequent cleaning, or even sleeping outside in a low-VOC tent. They cover cautious bind
Dust Testing Showdown!! EnviroBiomics vs Lis Biotech vs Mycometrics (ERMI/HERTSMI-2 Experiment)
Dust Testing Showdown: EnviroBiomics vs Liz Biotech vs Mycometrics (ERMI/HERTSMI-2 Experiment)
In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, Barbara describes a controlled dust-test experiment comparing MSQ PCR/ERMI results across three CIRS-relevant labs—EnviroBiomics, Liz Biotech, and Mycometrics—using dust collected the same day from the same home and surfaces, divided into left/middle/right sections to
Tick-Borne Illness & CIRS: testing pitfalls, key symptoms, and how to heal
Barbara welcomes Dr. Kellyn Milani, a naturopathic doctor and primary care physician specializing in complex environmentally acquired illnesses, to discuss tick-borne illness in the context of CIRS aka mold illness. Dr. Milani explains that tick-borne disease is a major trigger for CIRS, emphasizes Lyme occurs in all 50 states, and outlines why testing is limited and Lyme is primarily a clinical d
Barbara’s CIRS Health Update: Did the Shoemaker Protocol work?
On today's episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, Barbara shares a health update. She reports a smoother-than-expected recovery from an August 2025 L5-S1 PLIF spinal fusion, major symptom improvements after going gluten- and dairy-free, adding gut supplements, and tracking with stool testing. She began tick-borne treatment with a specialist using pulsed antibiotics plus biofilm support and albendazole
Why Mold Remediation Fails (and how to get it right) with Max McCord on CIRS Building Science
In this The CIRS Group Podcast episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Max McCord, an indoor environmental professional and president of the Stonecrest Team, about why mold remediation projects can fail even after visible mold is removed. Max explains that the biggest misses are often hidden, hard-to-see species like whitish Aspergillus, and that relying on basic air sampling can wrongly sugges
The CIRS Starter Pack: Practical tips to feel better while you heal
Jacie and Barbara share some suggestions for a “CIRS starter pack” inspired by their community: a menu of practical, non-medical supports to help CIRS patients feel better while waiting to see a provider and pursuing root-cause treatment. They cover environmental steps like using an Air Oasis air purifier and improving cleaning/laundry and bedding routines, plus daily hygiene tools like acidifying
CIRS & Insomnia: Why You Can’t Sleep (Low MSH, Melatonin, Cortisol) + Practical Fixes
Barbara and Jacie discuss insomnia as a common CIRS symptom, explaining that CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome) can occur in genetically predisposed people exposed to biotoxins like mold, algae blooms, or venomous spider bites, leading to chronic inflammation, cytokine activity, low MSH, and downstream disruption of melatonin, cortisol, and other hormones. They share ways to improve fal
Building CIRS-aware, mold-resistant homes with Special Guest Brian Tinker
In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Brian Tinker, founder of Breathe Well Homes and a master builder with 30+ years of experience, whose work became personal after his wife’s CIRS diagnosis revealed their home’s role in her illness. Brian explains how moisture control is the core issue behind mold problems and why modern “tighter” energy codes can create sick home
Jacie’s Health Update: Actinos, Gut Dysbiosis, and Spike Protein Testing!
Barbara and Jacie are back, this time to share Jacie’s personal health update while she deals with a CIRS relapse after moving into a new apartment. Jacie describes worsening histamine flares, a return of autoimmune symptoms like uveitis, and home testing that showed borderline endotoxins (100), and extremely high actinos (6 million). This prompted a small-particle cleaning and skin/environment re
CIRSx 2026 Recap: Lifestyle tips for recovery from chronic illness - CIRS, mold, and dysregulation
In this final CIRSx 2026 recap, Jacie and Barbara cover the conference’s lifestyle-focused talks and share takeaways for listeners. They highlight Mike Pelletier's practical strategies to accelerate CIRS recovery, including prioritizing sleep (consistent bedtime/wake time, cool room, morning light, lowering bedroom CO2, reducing nocturia by shifting fluid intake earlier, and improving nasal breath
CIRSx 2026 Medical Recap: Parkinson’s risk, gut endotoxins, balancing hormones, stalking, & MARCoNs
Barbara and Jacie continue their CIRSx 2026 recap with the medical talks, emphasizing that the episode should not be considered medical advice and encouraging listeners to consult their own CIRS practitioners. They summarize Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker’s talk on “triple positives” on GENIE (AKT, RELA, tubulin) as an early risk pattern for neurodegeneration including Parkinson’s, highlighting the promise
CIRSx 2026 Recap: Remediation & building mold-safe homes
Barbara and Jacie kick off their annual CIRSx 2026 Conference recap series, focusing this episode on remediation and environmental talks, with a reminder to consult an indoor environmental professional (IEP) for climate-specific guidance. They summarize key presentations: Bill Weber and Christine Semabeu on prevention-first building and homeowner maintenance (leak management, access panels, alarms
CIRSx 2026 Hot Takes: Weird vibes, corporate shift & our favorite talks
Barbara and Jacie share “hot takes” after CIRSx 2026 in Fort Lauderdale. Barbara attended in person and Jacie watched virtually. They discuss feeling “weird vibes” and a more corporate yet conflicted identity, with misalignment about whether the conference is for providers, patients, or remediators, and concerns about limited innovation within the Shoemaker community. They encourage practitioners
MARCoNS in CIRS: Symptoms, testing, treatment options & why it keeps coming back
In this The CIRS Group Podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara explain MARCoNS (multiple antibiotic resistant coagulase-negative staphylococci) as a common deep nasal colonization in CIRS patients and why it’s addressed as step three in the Shoemaker Protocol (after leaving exposure and using binders). They discuss how MARCoNS may perpetuate inflammation and low MSH, what symptoms can look like, and ho
Dr. Andrew Heyman on the Cell Danger Response: Why CIRS Patients Stall & How to Heal Beyond Mold
On this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Dr. Andrew Heyman about Dr. Naviaux’s cell danger response (CDR) framework and why it can explain stalled recoveries in chronic mold-related illness and CIRS. Heyman describes how mitochondrial “danger mode” drives three phases: initial inflammation (innate immune activation), rebuilding via aerobic glycolysis, and reinte
Phase 5: Restore brain volume and repair inflammation markers (Shoemaker Protocol Series)
Barbara and Jacie wrap up their five-part Shoemaker Protocol series with Phase 5: Repair and Restore. This phase focuses on normalizing innate immune markers (MMP-9, C3a, C4a, and TGFb1) and restoring brain volume. They explain that low-starch/gluten-free diet helps bring down MMP-9, while persistently elevated C3a/C4a or TGFb1 often signal ongoing exposure, gut issues, tick-borne illness, or dent
Keys to feeling better: Repair metabolism, detox pathways, hormones & electrolytes
In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara cover phase four of the Shoemaker Protocol, focused on restoring normal metabolic function after biotoxin elimination. They explain that this phase may include supporting detox pathways for “normal” toxins and heavy metals (e.g., daily bowel movements, B vitamins, methylation support, sauna or hot baths, lymphatic techniques, and using binders
Break the Cycle of Chronic Mold Illness: treat MARCoNs and repair the gut
Struggling with stubborn biotoxin illness (CIRS) and feeling stuck in your recovery? In this episode, we break down some of the most important (and often overlooked) steps in the Shoemaker Protocol, including binders, MARCoNS treatment, and gut support. Learn how binders like cholestyramine and Welchol work differently to remove biotoxins, why the wrong detox approach can trigger setbacks, and how
Fungal Colonization Isn't What You Think!
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Is mold colonization the same as CIRS? Could what looks like a fungal infection actually be something else entirely? In this episode, Barbara is joined by Dr. Lacey Venanzi and Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres to break down the difference between mold/fungal colonization and chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS), explore the
Shoemaker Protocol Phase Two: Fish oil, limbic retraining, & get out of exposure
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Jacie and Barbara cover Phase Two (part two of five) of the Shoemaker Protocol for CIRS, focusing on foundational steps before starting binders:
Lipid replacement therapy (primarily fish oil) to lower inflammation and help prevent common binder side effects like fatigue, constipation, and overall dryness, with Shoemaker-recomme
How to Get Diagnosed: Healing from Chronic Illness
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Uncover the truth behind chronic illnesses that are often misdiagnosed for years. If you’ve been told your symptoms are anxiety, IBS, or autoimmune, this episode explores a groundbreaking approach that could change everything. Learn how the Shoemaker Protocol, backed by clinical research, helps identify and treat CIRS (Chronic I
Do you have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS)? This could be the missing key to healing!
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Jacie and Barbara discuss chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), emphasizing it as a real, multisystem illness rather than “just being tired,” and describe hallmark symptoms like post-exertional malaise (PEM), unrefreshing sleep, brain fog/word-finding issues, orthostatic intolerance, sensory sensitivity, pain, headaches, and the pu
Are you ACTUALLY healing?? Learn how to tell if you're ready to graduate from treatment!
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In this episode, Barbara and Jacie discuss how CIRS patients can tell when they’re ready to move to the next step of the Shoemaker Protocol or “graduate,." As always, healing is gradual and should be guided by a CIRS-literate practitioner. They recommend tracking symptoms over time and checking three key questions: whether sympt
A dirty home might be keeping you sick
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In their 150th The CIRS Group podcast episode(!!), Jacie and Barbara share practical guidance for reducing actinos in the home, emphasizing that consistent removal matters because a CIRS patient can react whether actinos are dead or alive. This is NOT medical advice: Actinos guidance is leading-edge in the CIRS space, but they s
Actinos in CIRS: What they are, why they matter, and how to test!
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Barbara and Jacie discuss actinos (actinobacteria) in the context of CIRS and how they can drive illness. Notably, Genie Test research suggests 42% of CIRS patients react to Actinos versus 30% to endotoxins and about 10% to mycotoxins. Today's episode covers testing strategies, and if human-
How to handle a health flare: testing, treatment, and short-term relief
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Jacie and Barbara return from an unexpected break, caused by Jacie's autoimmune flare after moving into an apartment with a high actino score. Today's episode outlines what to do during a CIRS “flare” or symptom backslide. Some tips covered inclide: defining early warning signs, using objective tracking tools like the VCS test,
“I’ll Try Anything” Medicine: When unlimited money becomes a health liability
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Jacie and Barbara discuss why unlimited money and access to extreme treatments doesn’t usually lead to better or faster healing. Wealth can remove “financial friction,” which inadvertently encourages fear-based, urgent, and uncoordinated decision-making, including fringe or unregulated therapies, constant protocol switching, and
Is your house making you sick? Test your home to heal!
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In this week's episode, Barbara and Jacie explain why people with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) or mold illness should test their home (and workplaces) and when. They'll dig into why multiple tests are better to understand the full picture rather than relying on a single score, and recommend working with an IEP (
Weight Gain, Weight Loss & CIRS: why calories in, calories out doesn't work...and how to fix it!
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Jacie and Barbara discuss how CIRS commonly affects body weight: often causing weight gain and resistance to fat loss, though some people experience extreme weight loss. They'll dig into why weight changes are driven by chronic, multi-system inflammation from biotoxin exposure (such as mold or Lyme), impacting hormones, metaboli
Anxiety & Depression in CIRS: Your brain isn't broken, it's inflamed!
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In this week's episode, Barbara and Jacie discuss how anxiety and depression commonly show up in CIRS, and why these symptoms are often driven by biology and NOT personal weakness. Brain and body inflammation can disrupt neurotransmitters, increase inflammatory cytokines, affect mood regulation, and contribute to blood-brain bar
The hidden illness no one talks about: How common is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie talk about the prevalence of Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Despite being relatively unknown, CIRS is not rare; It affects approximately 25% of the population due to genetic susceptibility. They discuss the reasons behind the lack of awareness in conventional medicine, from underdiagnosis and nonspecific symptoms, to lar
Navigating Perimenopause, Menopause & Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome with Dr. Noble
In this informative episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Anjali Noble to discuss the complexities of perimenopause, menopause, and Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Noble, founder of the Noble Center for Health and Healing, shares insights on perimenopause and menopause, potential treatments and ways to support the transition, and how CIRS may com
Can you really get sick from mold? Let's talk about CIRS: Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explain what Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) is, how to get diagnosed, and how to treat it. They cover sources of biotoxin exposure that can make you sick and what kind of binders work best for these toxins. Jacie and Barbara also discuss the importance of genetic predisposition, the diagnostic criteria, and testing y
Do you have Hashimoto's? Are you at risk? Take care of your thyroid health while treating CIRS
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explore the connection between Hashimoto's disease and chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS). They dive into the importance of early diagnosis, crucial blood tests, and the differences between conventional and functional treatments. The episode also includes personal anecdotes and practical tips for managing thyroid health,
Is it possible to work out with chronic illness? Tips and tricks to get back into the gym SAFELY!
In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the complex topic of working out while dealing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They discuss the challenges, benefits, and strategies for maintaining a workout routine despite the debilitating symptoms that CIRS can cause, such as fatigue, joint pain, and hypometabolism. Listeners are advised to consult
Is it mold illness or CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome)? And does it matter?
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the distinctions between mold illness and CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They clarify the confusion surrounding these terms, which are often used interchangeably online, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Shoemaker Protocol for
What the future holds for The CIRS Group in 2026
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It's the last 2025 episode of The CIRS Group podcast! Hosts Jacie and Barbara share their exciting plans for 2026, including upgrades in podcast quality, fun new merchandise, and including more expert-led classes within the membership. They also talk about personal updates, incl
Ask us anything! Live Q&A Session with Barbara and Jacie of The CIRS Group
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In this special episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie answer a vari
What to Buy Someone with Chronic Illness | CIRS Patient Gift Ideas
Join Jacie and Barbara for a cozy holiday episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as they share their favorite gift ideas for the chronic illness community. From simple stocking stuffers to big-ticket wellness upgrades, they walk through options at every price point so you can find something thoughtful—whether you're shopping on a tight budget or going all-out.
You’ll hear practical picks like Epsom s
CIRS Summit 2025 Sneak Peek: the talks you won't want to miss!
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Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In today's episode, we dive into the details of the upcoming CIRS Summit 2025 happening on December 13th and 14th. The summit will have a great mix of expert interview
Test your home for mold, actinos, & endotoxins the right way! The art of dust testing w/ Bill Weber
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara welcome Bill Weber, a CIRS-knowledgeable Indoor Environmental Professional. Bill is a senior consultant with Avalar and a board-certified indoor environmental consultant. Bill shares his expertise on mold testing methods, the art and science of interpreting results, and why
Behind the Reality: Exploring chronic illness within The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and her guest co-host, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, discuss the potential connection between chronic illness and mold exposure, focusing on reality TV star Mikayla Matthews from "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." They'll explore Matthews' health journey, discuss potential chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS) symptoms, and highlight the
Dealing with social obligations while chronically ill: Holiday Edition!
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss the unique challenges faced by individuals with chronic illnesses during the holiday season. They delve into the importance of setting boundaries, managing expectations, and prioritizing health to make social events more manageable. The discussion includes prac
Changes to the NeuroQuant MRI for CIRS: Updates that may affect YOUR report!
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Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast! In this episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Christian Navarro Torres, a PhD cognitive scientist specialized in cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and language science. They'll cover the latest updates to NeuroQuant, an FDA-approved software used for segmenting brain regio
Illness is the Great Equalizer: Reaction to Chris Williamson's Health Update
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie discuss YouTuber Chris Williamson's recent video titled 'It's Time to Talk About My Health,' which details his struggles with chronic health issues despite his connections in the fitness, wellness, and biohacking community. They'll cover his diagnosis of mold
The Hidden Link Between HLA-B27 and CIRS (no one’s talking about this)
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the specifics of ankylosing spondylitis, an autoimmune condition that Jacie personally struggled with. They discuss the genetic aspects tied to the HLA-B27 gene and its role in autoimmune disorders, including ankylosing spondylitis, acute anterior uveiti
From Triggered to Thriving: Keep Your Environment CIRS-safe from mold, sewer gas, allergens & more!
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In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into practical tips and resources for maintaining a safe and healthy living or workspace. They cover important aspects including managing humidity levels, choosing a home location, working with landlords, utilizing air purifiers, and regular small partic
Understanding Gut Health with Dr. Lacey Venanzi
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara are joined by Dr. Lacey Venanzi, a functional medicine practitioner who specializes in treating CIRS and gut dysfunction. Dr. Lacey discusses her insights on the gut microbiome, its connection to chronic illnesses, and how the immune system plays a major role. They exp
Alopecia Areata: Autoimmune hair loss treatments, causes, & connection to CIRS
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara dive into the autoimmune condition known as Alopecia Areata. You may be familiar with it because of Jada Pinkett Smith (and the slap heard round the world) or more recently because of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Armani Latimer's brave story on the second season of the N
Are you detoxing properly? Your body may need extra help!
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie delve into the crucial topic of detox pathways, particularly for those of us dealing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They discuss the body's natural mechanisms for eliminating toxins and why CIRS patients may need extra support to aid these processes
We're back! Barbara survived spine fusion (and now we're working on something BIG)
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We are BACK! In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara return from a brief hiatus. Why were they gone? Barbara got surgery and made it through! She'll give a detailed update on her recovery process, including the challenges she faced, tips for post-surgery care, and what kind of support she needed to heal. The
Jacie MOVED! And Barbara... is having surgery? The CIRS Group 2025 health updates!
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In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie share personal updates on their health and living situations. Jacie recounts her move from Denver to Utah, explaining the reasons behind the move, the challenges she faced, and the improvements in her social life and environment. We hope you take away practical tips fo
Creating your CIRS Action Plan: A step by step guide to planning your healing journey
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara discuss how to create an effective CIRS action plan. This is a step by step guide to help you manage and streamline your CIRS healing journey, which is often complicated and stressful. They'll cover why having an action plan is crucial, especially for those newly diagnosed o
Feel your best while healing from chronic illness and CIRS: Our favorite adjunct therapies!
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss various adjunct therapies they find beneficial to use alongside the Shoemaker Protocol. They dig into anti-inflammatory diets, the importance of electrolytes, supplements, the benefits of sunshine and grounding, and detox techniques like saunas
The TOP 15 BOOKS for people with chronic illness: Heal from CIRS and beyond!
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Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In this episode, we share our top book recommendations that have significantly contributed to our health and healing journeys. Whether you're dealing with CIRS, chronic illness, mental health struggles, or just looking to expand your knowledge, we've g
A Day in the Life of a CIRS Patient: Find manageable routines to help you heal!
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In today's episode of The CIRS Group podcast, we will dive into the intricacies of managing life as a CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome) patient. We will cover timing binder doses, the importance of getting sun and fresh air, how to manage the cleaning schedule, and lots more. As always, consult your Shoemaker Certified Prac
Is your brain inflamed or shrinking?! Find out with the NeuroQuant MRI!
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Join us in today's episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as we discuss the NeuroQuant, a specialized brain MRI crucial for those with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Learn why this scan is so important, how it helps track brain health, and its application in diagnosing conditions like dementia. Get tips on
CIRSx Recap 2025: Indoor Environmental Professional (IEP) Insights and Clean Home Tips for CIRS
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Today, we're concluding our CIRSx 2025 recap, this time focusing on environmental topics and practical advice for maintaining a healthy home as a CIRS patient. We'll cover remediation planning, small particle cleaning, affordable housing for CIRS patients, and new testing methods for mold detection. Key speakers such
The Legal and Psychological toll of CIRS and mold illness: CIRSx 2025 Recap!
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Today we are continuing our recap of the talks we heard at CIRSx 2025, and specifically we will be covering the legal and psychological topics. Here are the talks we will be recapping:
CIRS Research Committee Update: An Update on the CIRS Research with Glenn DiTulio
A Lawyer's Shared Experience as a CIRS Patient,
The latest innovations in CIRS and mold illness treatment: CIRSx 2025 Recap!
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This week, we are continuing our recap of the CIRSx 2025 conference! Today, we are focusing on the treatment talks:
Understanding the Pitfalls of Tick Borne Testing with Christian Navarro Torres, PhD, CIRS Lab
Finding the Tick-Borne Needle in the Haystack: Tick Borne Infections in CIRS Patients with Peg DiT
Behind the Scenes at CIRSx 2025: Our Experience
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie reflect on their experience at the CIRSx 2025 conference in Tempe, AZ. They discuss highlights from the event, including impactful talks on tick-borne illnesses, brain health with Dr. Dale Bredesen, and insights on the gut microbiome by Dr. Lacey.
Let's Revisit: What Does CIRS Look Like? Classic TCG Episode
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In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara delve into what exactly Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome or CIRS looks like. CIRS manifests in various ways depending on the individual and it's important to recognize the symptoms. The episode covers the genetic aspect of CIRS, the myriad of symptoms it can cause
Is Chronic Lyme or Tick-Borne illness keeping you sick? Symptoms, Testing, and Treatment
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the complexities of Lyme disease and other tick-borne illnesses, and how often these occur among CIRS patients. It also happens to be Lyme Disease Awareness Month! They'll cover important information about tick borne symptoms, testing methods, and trea
Mold Detection: Why Dust Testing is Crucial for Your Health
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara get into dust testing for mold, discussing personal experiences and sharing expert insights. They highlight different testing methods, including why MSQ-PCR testing is better than other methods, and when to use the ERMI vs the HERSMI-2 test. They'll explain why dust testing
Which binders ACTUALLY work? A Guide for Mold Toxicity and CIRS Patients
In this episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dig into which binders ACTUALLY WORK for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) patients. They explain what binders are, how they help in detoxifying the body, and why they are essential for those with a genetic predisposition to CIRS. The episode details the intricacies of the Shoemaker protocol, the various types of binder
What can you eat in order to heal? Find what works for you: CIRS Nutrition Tips
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Welcome to another episode of the CIRS Group podcast with Jacie and Barbara! In this episode, we delve into nutrition strategies to support healing from Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). We'll tackle the importance of personalized diets, the role of a nutrition coach versus a nutritionist, and guidelines from the S
CIRS: A Multi-System, Multi-Symptom illness (that may be your answer to healing chronic illness!)
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Today, we are discussing the most common symptoms, as well as lesser known issues that many CIRS patients endure before they get treated. Healing is possible! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS
Life after CIRS! What to expect after you complete the Shoemaker Protocol and heal: w/Jenny Johnson
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie welcome the OG CIRS coach and patient advocate, Jenny Johnson. As a board-certified health coach and founder of Simplified Wellness Designs, LLC, Jenny has helped countless CIRS clients navigate their health journey. We’ll hear about Jenny's personal battle and recovery from CIRS
Need to break the lease for your health? Move to a clean space to heal from CIRS & mold illness
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara dive into the complexities of renting and moving while living with CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They discuss the importance of consulting with IEPs (Indoor Environmental Professionals), choosing the right location, conducting thorough inspections, and the vital
Medical Trauma is REAL: Don't fall victim to the insane flaws of the conventional medical system
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In this episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the shortcomings of conventional Western medicine, particularly for those suffering from chronic illnesses and autoimmune diseases.
We share personal stories about the inadequacies we've faced,
Ask Us Anything! CIRS Q&A Webinar: navigating healing and treatment from mold
CIRS Q&A: Tackling Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, Co-Infections, and Recovery
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Welcome to our first 2025 CIRS Q&A session! In this episode, Barbara and Jacie provide answers to your pressing questions about Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). We dive into the Shoemaker Protocol, tips for identifyi
What causes CIRS, aka mold illness? Mold! And other biotoxins like ticks, spiders and poop
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Today, we are exploring what the triggers can be for people who develop CIRS: biotoxins! We cover mold, endotoxins, actinos, spider bites, ticks, cyanobacteria, and even vaccines. Check out the links below for more resour
Who Treats CIRS? Find a doctor and health coach that's right for you and healing from mold illness
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Unfortunately, very few doctors are educated and certified to help you heal from it. Today, we want to help you find the doctor and health coach that is right for you. Check out the links below for more resources to aid y
The CIRS Group 100th Episode! What chronic illness taught us
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is what we were diagnosed with three years ago. A little over two years ago, we started this podcast - and this week we celebrate 100 episodes! Today we discuss what CIRS has taught us: tips and cautionary tales for healing, how to navigate things when it gets complicated, and reminders of what’s
Repair your brain with plasmalogens: Heal MS, Parkinsons, Autism, & CIRS - Dr. Dayan Goodenowe
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Today we have a special guest! Dr. Dayan Goodenowe is a researcher that has unlocked the power of plasmalogens and thankfully, this is something that can be a real game changer for people struggling with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. We cover what they are, where they come from, how to try them for yourself, and more. Check ou
Do you get itchy after you eat? It might be histamines - let's talk about it! MCAS and CIRS
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be exacerbated by histamine response, or MCAS, aka Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. There are ways to keep this in check as you heal, and there is actually a good reason to address it that can mean raising your MSH! Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, a
Is your root canal keeping you SICK? Let's talk about your teeth!
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, and sometimes we might stall in our healing journey. When that happens, it’s a good idea to think about what stones might be left unturned. For some, that could be an oral infection or a bad root canal. Today, we’ll talk about some prevention tips and how to mitigate pote
How POOP might be keeping you sick (and what to do about it!)
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is caused by several different environmental toxins. None are more damaging than POOP! So today, we are talking all about endotoxins: what they are, what they do to your body, how to test your home, and how to maintain a clean home, free from poopy little guys. Check out the time stamps and links
When fats matter: Up your lipids to get back your health!
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is best treated with the Shoemaker Protocol. Research and clinical experience has shown that patients tolerate the protocol far better when they incorporate lipid replacement therapy.
The blood test EVERYONE should get (but no one does): MSH - Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that almost always has devastating effects on a VERY important blood marker: MSH, or Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone. MSH affects everything from sleep, hormones, gut health, mental health, energy, and so much more. If you are struggling in any of these arenas, this episode is for you
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