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The CIRS Group Podcast

The CIRS Group Podcast

thecirsgroup 100 Episodes Aug 19, 2026

This podcast focuses on Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS), a condition that can affect up to 25% of the population and is often triggered by environmental biotoxins such as mold, red tide, and Lyme disease. People with CIRS are unable to clear these toxins on their own, but the condition is treatable. The show aims to help listeners better understand and identify CIRS, especially those who might struggle with processing new information. Hosts Jacie and Barbara, co-founders of The CIRS Group, bring their experiences as certified nutrition and wellness coaches, along with their personal journeys as carnivores, to offer support and practical insights.

Episodes

CIRS & Insomnia: Why You Can’t Sleep (Low MSH, Melatonin, Cortisol) + Practical Fixes
CIRS & Insomnia: Why You Can’t Sleep (Low MSH, Melatonin, Cortisol) + Practical Fixes Aug 19, 2026 1536 Barbara and Jacie discuss insomnia as a common CIRS symptom, explaining that CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome) can occur in genetically predisposed people exposed to biotoxins like mold, algae blooms, or venomous spider bites, leading to chronic inflammation, cytokine activity, low MSH, and downstream disruption of melatonin, cortisol, and other hormones. They share ways to improve fal
Building CIRS-aware, mold-resistant homes with Special Guest Brian Tinker
Building CIRS-aware, mold-resistant homes with Special Guest Brian Tinker Aug 12, 2026 2157 In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Brian Tinker, founder of Breathe Well Homes and a master builder with 30+ years of experience, whose work became personal after his wife’s CIRS diagnosis revealed their home’s role in her illness. Brian explains how moisture control is the core issue behind mold problems and why modern “tighter” energy codes can create sick home
Jacie’s Health Update: Actinos, Gut Dysbiosis, and Spike Protein Testing!
Jacie’s Health Update: Actinos, Gut Dysbiosis, and Spike Protein Testing! Aug 5, 2026 2417 Barbara and Jacie are back, this time to share Jacie’s personal health update while she deals with a CIRS relapse after moving into a new apartment. Jacie describes worsening histamine flares, a return of autoimmune symptoms like uveitis, and home testing that showed borderline endotoxins (100), and extremely high actinos (6 million). This prompted a small-particle cleaning and skin/environment re
CIRSx 2026 Recap: Lifestyle tips for recovery from chronic illness - CIRS, mold, and dysregulation
CIRSx 2026 Recap: Lifestyle tips for recovery from chronic illness - CIRS, mold, and dysregulation Jul 29, 2026 2176 In this final CIRSx 2026 recap, Jacie and Barbara cover the conference’s lifestyle-focused talks and share takeaways for listeners. They highlight Mike Pelletier's practical strategies to accelerate CIRS recovery, including prioritizing sleep (consistent bedtime/wake time, cool room, morning light, lowering bedroom CO2, reducing nocturia by shifting fluid intake earlier, and improving nasal breath
CIRSx 2026 Medical Recap: Parkinson’s risk, gut endotoxins, balancing hormones, stalking, & MARCoNs
CIRSx 2026 Medical Recap: Parkinson’s risk, gut endotoxins, balancing hormones, stalking, & MARCoNs Jul 22, 2026 2616 Barbara and Jacie continue their CIRSx 2026 recap with the medical talks, emphasizing that the episode should not be considered medical advice and encouraging listeners to consult their own CIRS practitioners. They summarize Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker’s talk on “triple positives” on GENIE (AKT, RELA, tubulin) as an early risk pattern for neurodegeneration including Parkinson’s, highlighting the promise
CIRSx 2026 Recap: Remediation & building mold-safe homes
CIRSx 2026 Recap: Remediation & building mold-safe homes Jul 15, 2026 2208 Barbara and Jacie kick off their annual CIRSx 2026 Conference recap series, focusing this episode on remediation and environmental talks, with a reminder to consult an indoor environmental professional (IEP) for climate-specific guidance. They summarize key presentations: Bill Weber and Christine Semabeu on prevention-first building and homeowner maintenance (leak management, access panels, alarms
CIRSx 2026 Hot Takes: Weird vibes, corporate shift & our favorite talks
CIRSx 2026 Hot Takes: Weird vibes, corporate shift & our favorite talks Jul 8, 2026 1884 Barbara and Jacie share “hot takes” after CIRSx 2026 in Fort Lauderdale. Barbara attended in person and Jacie watched virtually. They discuss feeling “weird vibes” and a more corporate yet conflicted identity, with misalignment about whether the conference is for providers, patients, or remediators, and concerns about limited innovation within the Shoemaker community. They encourage practitioners
MARCoNS in CIRS: Symptoms, testing, treatment options & why it keeps coming back
MARCoNS in CIRS: Symptoms, testing, treatment options & why it keeps coming back Jul 1, 2026 2355 In this The CIRS Group Podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara explain MARCoNS (multiple antibiotic resistant coagulase-negative staphylococci) as a common deep nasal colonization in CIRS patients and why it’s addressed as step three in the Shoemaker Protocol (after leaving exposure and using binders). They discuss how MARCoNS may perpetuate inflammation and low MSH, what symptoms can look like, and ho
Dr. Andrew Heyman on the Cell Danger Response: Why CIRS Patients Stall & How to Heal Beyond Mold
Dr. Andrew Heyman on the Cell Danger Response: Why CIRS Patients Stall & How to Heal Beyond Mold Jun 24, 2026 3377 On this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Dr. Andrew Heyman about Dr. Naviaux’s cell danger response (CDR) framework and why it can explain stalled recoveries in chronic mold-related illness and CIRS. Heyman describes how mitochondrial “danger mode” drives three phases: initial inflammation (innate immune activation), rebuilding via aerobic glycolysis, and reinte
Phase 5: Restore brain volume and repair inflammation markers (Shoemaker Protocol Series)
Phase 5: Restore brain volume and repair inflammation markers (Shoemaker Protocol Series) Jun 17, 2026 684 Barbara and Jacie wrap up their five-part Shoemaker Protocol series with Phase 5: Repair and Restore. This phase focuses on normalizing innate immune markers (MMP-9, C3a, C4a, and TGFb1) and restoring brain volume. They explain that low-starch/gluten-free diet helps bring down MMP-9, while persistently elevated C3a/C4a or TGFb1 often signal ongoing exposure, gut issues, tick-borne illness, or dent
Keys to feeling better: Repair metabolism, detox pathways, hormones & electrolytes
Keys to feeling better: Repair metabolism, detox pathways, hormones & electrolytes Jun 10, 2026 1081 In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara cover phase four of the Shoemaker Protocol, focused on restoring normal metabolic function after biotoxin elimination. They explain that this phase may include supporting detox pathways for “normal” toxins and heavy metals (e.g., daily bowel movements, B vitamins, methylation support, sauna or hot baths, lymphatic techniques, and using binders
Break the Cycle of Chronic Mold Illness: treat MARCoNs and repair the gut
Break the Cycle of Chronic Mold Illness: treat MARCoNs and repair the gut Jun 3, 2026 1720 Struggling with stubborn biotoxin illness (CIRS) and feeling stuck in your recovery? In this episode, we break down some of the most important (and often overlooked) steps in the Shoemaker Protocol, including binders, MARCoNS treatment, and gut support. Learn how binders like cholestyramine and Welchol work differently to remove biotoxins, why the wrong detox approach can trigger setbacks, and how

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