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The Long Game

The Long Game

David Ly Khim, Allie Decker, Alex Birkett 243 Episodes Sep 23, 2026

The Long Game explores how long-term thinking leads to success in both personal and business life. Each episode features discussions about the frameworks, principles, and learnings that drive sustainable achievement. Listeners hear stories about perseverance, strategic patience, and the decisions that pay off over time. The show aims to inspire a mindset focused on enduring growth rather than quick wins.

Episodes

Three Dinosaurs Talk AEO (with Benji Hyam & Devesh Khanal)
Three Dinosaurs Talk AEO (with Benji Hyam & Devesh Khanal) Sep 23, 2026 01:21:40 In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, Alex Birkett sits down with Benji Hyam and Devesh Khanal, co-founders of Grow and Convert, to separate what's real from what's noise in AI search optimization. Drawing on their work with 100+ brands and their own AI visibility tracking data, they challenge popular narratives around listicle penalties, Reddit citations, and one-size-fits-all GEO tactics.The
Kitchen Side: The Price of Certainty
Kitchen Side: The Price of Certainty Sep 10, 2026 00:48:37 In this Kitchen Side episode, Alex Birkett and David Khim unpack the volatility of AI search, from citation drift and the sudden Reddit citation drop to why chasing every new AEO tactic is both exhausting and, often, a losing game.They explore how to build durable brand visibility upstream of any single citation source, the difference between expertise and tools in the age of AI, and a decision ph
Kitchen Side: The Internet Has a Memory
Kitchen Side: The Internet Has a Memory Aug 12, 2026 00:56:43 In this Kitchen Side episode, Alex Birkett and Allie Decker unpack what actually makes content valuable in the age of AI, moving past the tired debate over human versus AI-produced content to the deeper question of how companies should measure quality at all. Drawing on decision theory and the idea that almost anything can be measured, they argue that production method matters far less than whethe
Proof Over Promises, Case Studies, and Marketing When Trust Is Low with Sofia Sulikowski
Proof Over Promises, Case Studies, and Marketing When Trust Is Low with Sofia Sulikowski Jul 15, 2026 01:01:06 In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, Alex Birkett sits down with Sofia Sulikowski, founder of Solera Strategies and former product marketer at dbt Labs, Tableau, and Atlan, to explore why standing out in a saturated content landscape has become a core product marketing problem. Sofia breaks down what "basic marketing" really requires, why internal narratives so often drift from how customers
Kitchen Side: The Hidden Drivers of AI Search
Kitchen Side: The Hidden Drivers of AI Search Jul 8, 2026 00:51:16 In this Kitchen Side episode, Alex Birkett, Allie Decker, and David Ly Khim unpack how brands should actually measure success in AI search, and why traditional attribution models are breaking down as buyer behavior shifts from search links to AI assistants and workflows. They discuss why self-reported attribution is becoming the most reliable signal available, the different tiers of AI visibility
AI as the New Front Door to Brands, Solution Marketing, and Why Your Promise Beats Your Product with Johann Wrede (UserTesting)
AI as the New Front Door to Brands, Solution Marketing, and Why Your Promise Beats Your Product with Johann Wrede (UserTesting) May 21, 2026 00:59:36 In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, David Khim sits down with Johann Wrede, Global CMO at UserTesting, to explore how AI is reshaping brand perception, the role of the modern CMO, and why truly customer-centric marketing still comes down to diet and exercise. They discuss why AI has become the new front door to brands — compressing and abstracting how companies are perceived before a human
Kitchen Side: The GEO Gold Rush Problem
Kitchen Side: The GEO Gold Rush Problem Apr 8, 2026 00:48:29 In this Kitchen Side episode, Alex Birkett, Allie Decker, and David Khim unpack the increasingly noisy world of AI search (GEO/AEO), including spam tactics, flawed attribution models, and widespread confusion around what actually drives results. They explore why visibility without revenue is a trap, how brand sentiment and off-page signals shape AI outputs, and why trust, positioning, and human va
What is Content Engineering?
What is Content Engineering? Feb 11, 2026 01:01:35 In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, Alex Birkett sits down with Josh Spilker, Head of Search Marketing at AirOps, to explore how content teams are evolving in response to AI, automation, and changing search behavior. Josh draws on his background in SEO, writing, and systems thinking to outline why traditional content marketing models are breaking down and what’s replacing them.They discuss t
Kitchen Side: AI Search Tactics, Telemetry and Team Structure
Kitchen Side: AI Search Tactics, Telemetry and Team Structure Feb 4, 2026 01:13:46 In this Kitchen Side episode of The Long Game Podcast, Alex and David are joined by Nick Lafferty from Profound to unpack how teams are navigating AI search visibility amid shifting metrics, attribution challenges, and unclear best practices.They discuss how companies choose which prompts to track, why case studies in AI search are hard to define and share, where brand and citations fit into AI-ge
Who Owns AI Visibility?
Who Owns AI Visibility? Dec 24, 2025 01:18:05 In this Kitchen Side episode of The Long Game Podcast, Alex Birkett and the team unpack a question that’s coming up more and more: who actually “owns” being found in AI search—and what AI visibility means for modern marketing teams. They explore why the “AI is killing SEO” debate misses the point, and how AI search is collapsing traditional channel boundaries while changing how buyers discover bra
Kitchen Side: Correlations, Chaos, and ChatGPT
Kitchen Side: Correlations, Chaos, and ChatGPT Nov 19, 2025 00:53:05 In this Kitchen Side episode of The Long Game Podcast, the Omniscient team dives into a wide-ranging discussion on trust, research quality, and marketing visibility in an AI-driven world. They start with epistemology—what makes research “good” or “bad”—and reflect on how flawed correlations can mislead marketers. The team then unpacks their recent Winter study on how B2B buyers use LLMs like ChatG
Earned Media, Brand Journalism, and AI Visibility with Noah Greenberg (CEO at Stacker)
Earned Media, Brand Journalism, and AI Visibility with Noah Greenberg (CEO at Stacker) Nov 5, 2025 01:05:17 In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, Alex Birkett interviews Noah Greenberg, CEO of Stacker, a content distribution platform that helps brands turn owned content into earned media. They dive into the paradigm shift from SEO (Search Engine Optimization) to GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) and how brands can optimize for visibility in AI-powered interfaces like ChatGPT and Gemini. Noah shar

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