
Murder Phone
Murder Phone is a true crime podcast in which host Tony Ciaglia recounts his life after a brain injury and his ensuing correspondence with notorious serial killers. In the first season, he focuses on his six-year relationship with David Gore, sharing Gore's letters and intimate thoughts about his crimes, including his time on death row with Ted Bundy. The show also features interviews with survivors of Gore and his accomplice Fred Waterfield, known as the Killing Cousins. It promises a deeply personal and disturbing look into the mind of a serial killer.
Episodes

Season 8 William Bonin “The Freeway Killer” Episode 9 “The Six He never Counted”
James Munro has always told the same story: one murder, one moment of terrible luck, and no real involvement. It's the story that helped him cut a deal — the story that's kept him talking about parole ever since.This episode, Tony and Al put that story under a microscope.Drawing on taped conversations with Greg Miley and Munro. Miley who served time alongside Munro and was present during

Season 8 William Bonin “The Freeway Killer” Episode 8 "The Second Set of Hands”
William Bonin didn't work alone. In this episode, host Tony Ciaglia pulls back the curtain on the men who rode beside The Freeway Killer, and introduces a new name: seventeen-year-old William Pugh, who survived his first encounter with Bonin by pure luck, then made the incomprehensible decision to come back. That choice would cost fifteen-year-old Harry Todd Turner, Victim 16 everything. Tony

Season 8, William Bonin, Episode 7 "Will You Take Me To Disneyland?"
William Bonin. The Freeway Killer. The winter of 1979 is about to get a lot darker.In this episode, Tony Ciaglia ,The Serial Killer Whisperer, and his father Al walk you through the brutal final weeks of 1979 and into the blood-soaked opening days of 1980, as Bonin accelerates his killing with terrifying speed. Victims 8 through 13 — Frank Dennis Fox, John Kilpatrick, Mike McDonald, Charles Miran

Season 8, William George Bonin, Episode 6: "A Kid On a Bike"
The freeway never sleeps in Southern California and neither did William Bonin. This week, Tony and Al pull back the curtain on the Freeway Killer and the Murder Van that became a rolling chamber of horrors on the highways of Los Angeles. They break down the chilling details of how Bonin hunted, who he hunted, and most disturbingly, who helped him do it. Tony shares never-before-heard audio from h

Season 8 William George Bonin Episode 5 “The Freeway Killer And Monsters Who Rode Along”
William Bonin wasn’t the only monster inside the Murder Van.In Episode 5 of Murder Phone, we dive into the twisted world of the accomplices who didn’t just witness the horror — they became part of it. Men like Vernon Butts, a predator who needed no corruption, and Gregory Miley, a seemingly normal young man who climbed into Bonin’s orbit and slowly transformed into something terrifying.This episod

Season 8 William Bonin The Freeway Killer Episode 4 "The Freeway Killer's Most Disturbing Accomplice — Vernon Butts
Tony and Al turn their attention to Vernon Butts, one of the most disturbing accomplices in the William Bonin murder spree. Known as the Freeway Killer, Bonin didn't always act alone — and Butts stands out as one of the most unsettling figures in his orbit.This episode features a chilling audio conversation with James Munro, another accomplice who knew Butts personally. Munro offers a hauntin

Season 8 William George Bonin, The Freeway Killer. Episode 3 – “Stamped Safe, Set Loose, Proven Deadly”
Bonin came back from war in 1968… but whatever returned wasn’t the same man.William Bonin walked into California colder, emptier—like something had hollowed him out and left the shell behind. His family saw it in his eyes. Not pain. Not trauma. Something darker. Something waiting.Then the frenzy began.Five boys. Abducted. Assaulted. Discarded. Not a spree. Not even chaos. This was a predator off t

Season 8 William Bonin The Freeway Killer Episode 2 “Honorable Discharge, Dishonorable Secrets”
Join host Tony Ciaglia and his father Al as they descend into William Bonin’s time in Vietnam.December 1966. Bonin doesn’t enlist for honor—he enlists because someone thinks the military can fix him. It can’t. Because Bonin is already broken. Before the uniform—before Vietnam—he’s already fantasizing about rape. About murder.Then comes the theft arrest. Charges disappear. Not because he’s innocent

Season 8 William George Bonin, The Freeway Killer. Episode 1: “Groomed by Monsters: Bonin Before the Freeway.”
Before the headlines. Before the handcuffs. Before the bodies…There was a childhood shaped by violence, neglect, and unchecked warning signs that were impossible to ignore—yet ignored anyway. This season exposes not only the making of a killer, but the system that failed to stop him.And again exclusively, Murder Phone brings you something few ever hear: real conversations with Bonin’s accomplices

Season 7 Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice Part 18 “Arthur John Shawcross: “Visit With a Monster”
In this unforgettable episode of Murder Phone, Tony,The Serial Killer Whisperer, joins his brother Joey and their father Al on a journey into the heart of darkness: a face-to-face visit with Arthur John Shawcross in Fallsburg, New York.What they didn’t know at the time was that this visit took place exactly two months before Shawcross would drop dead, making this one of his final, unfiltered conve

Season 7 Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice Part 17 “Caught Beneath the Bridge — Shawcross Meets Justice.”
October 1989: Rochester, New York. A body is found — Patricia Ives — and just like that, the mask of safety slips off the city’s face.Police quickly realize they aren’t dealing with a one-off killing. This is a pattern… the calling card of a predator.Victims, mostly sex workers. Strangled. Dumped near the river. Posed like trophies. And the man behind it? Arthur John Shawcross — a bloated, wanderi

Season 7 Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice Part 16 “When the Devil Came to Rochester”
What happens when hell doesn’t wait for you to die… but moves in next door?They called him The Genesee River Killer. We call him Arthur Shawcross.By late 1987, Rochester had no idea the devil was walking among them. Arthur Shawcross, an aging drifter with a fishing pole and a hollow smile was hiding a darkness that never died.In this episode, Tony and Al Ciaglia uncover some lost videos from 2010

Season 7 Slipping Through the Cracks Of Justice Part 15: “ The Children of Watertown”
When Arthur Shawcross came home from Vietnam, the violence he unleashed overseas didn’t stay buried. In this chilling episode, you’ll hear about the day the nightmare began — April 7th, 1972 — when 10-year-old Jack Blake vanished after a “fishing trip” with the man he trusted. What Shawcross later confessed will shake you to your core — acts so depraved, so inhuman, they leave scars on the soul ju

Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice Season 7 Part 14: The Monster They Set Free
Arthur Shawcross was not born a monster—he was made. Forged in a house of sin, scarred by incest, violence, and a twisted childhood, then sharpened to a lethal edge in the jungles of Vietnam. But the most terrifying part of his story isn’t just what he became—it’s how the system had him in its grip… and let him go. Again and again.In this series, Tony Ciaglia, The Serial Killer Whisperer, takes yo

Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice Season 7, Part 13 – “Hell’s Timeline: The Final Chapter”
In this chilling conclusion of Hell’s Timeline, we expose the brutal truth the official record refuses to tell. David Gore and Fred Waterfield—Florida’s “Killing Cousins”—didn’t begin their slaughter in 1981, as the system claims. Their reign of terror started years earlier, in the mid-1970s, with warning signs flashing in neon.Survivors like Angela Hommell bravely named their attackers, but law e

Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice Season 7 Part 12: Ghosts Beneath the Orange Groves
Beneath the sunlit rows of Florida’s orange groves, the ground still keeps its secrets. Some were dug up long ago. Others are ghosts—still waiting to be found, still whispering their stories.In this episode, we’re pulling one of those lost voices into the light: the story of Rose Two Trees. A daughter who vanished. A mother who refused to give up searching. And a confession that came not from rumo

Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice – Season 7 Part 11: “The Blood Trail They Left Behind.”
This episode drags you straight into the abyss—into the sickening heart of David Gore’s own confession.You’ll hear the chilling account of The Tragic Story of Missy in Gore’s own words… a crime so vile, so monstrous, that I believe it sealed his fate on death row.For the first time, Gore lays bare how he and Fred Waterfield hunted their victims in the 1970s—how they lured them, tricked them, and k

Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice, Part 10 “She Survived the Monsters… But Not the System“
Angela Survived the Monsters… But Not the System”Angela Hommell did everything a survivor is told to do. She named her attackers — Fred Waterfield and David Gore. She begged law enforcement for help. And the system turned its back.This isn’t just a story about two sadistic rapists known as The Killing Cousins. It’s about a justice system that protected predators, silenced victims, and paved the wa

Season 7 Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice: The Killing Cousins – Gore & Waterfield Part 9: "The Victim They Didn’t Believe"
This is the episode that will leave you stunned, furious—and unable to look away.In 1976, a young woman named Angela Hommell survived the unthinkable. She was kidnapped. Raped. Slashed. And somehow… she lived. She did what every survivor is told to do—she went to the police. She told the truth. She named her attackers: David Gore and Fred Waterfield.But the police didn’t believe her. The system le

Season 7 Slipping Through The Cracks of Justice Part 8 John Wayne Gacy: “The Clown Is Dead… But the Network Lived On”
On May 10th, 1994, John Wayne Gacy was executed. But make no mistake — the real monster wasn’t buried with him.This episode uncovers the darker truth: Gacy wasn’t acting alone. Behind the clown was a network — a trafficking pipeline built by convicted pedophile John Norman, who ran child sex rings like corporate enterprises. Catalogs. Client lists. Systems.We follow the thread from Norman and the

Season 7 Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice Special Edition: Kenneth Bianchi’s Parole Hearing – The Hillside Strangler Wants Out
Kenneth Bianchi—the Hillside Strangler—is up for parole.Yeah, you heard that right.The same sadistic predator who raped, tortured, and murdered teenage girls and children in one of the most horrific serial killing sprees in American history… is trying to walk free.In this Murder Phone Special Edition, Tony Ciaglia—The Serial Killer Whisperer—brings you breaking updates on Bianchi’s parole hearing,

Season 7 Slipping Through The Cracks of Justice John Wayne Gacy Part 7 “Employees, Accomplices and JUSTICE”
John Wayne Gacy was more than just a twisted killer in clown makeup—he was a predator hiding in plain sight. In this gut-wrenching episode of Murder Phone, Tony and Al go beyond the crawl space to shine a light on the survivors—the ones who got away, and the scars they carry. From attempted assaults to full-blown horrors, you’ll hear firsthand accounts of teenagers lured in by promises of cash, op

Season 7 Slipping Through The Cracks of Justice John Wayne Gacy Part 6 “Echos From The Crawl Space”
Tony and Al break down the Gacy arrest in Murder Phone style. How does a man diagnosed as a dangerous sociopath in 1968, sentenced to ten years for sodomizing a teenage boy, walk free after just 18 months… and then go on to torture, rape, and murder over 30 young men and boys?In this explosive episode, Tony and Al rip the mask off the system that protected John Wayne Gacy.We’re talking about arres

Season 7 Slipping Through The Cracks of Justice John Wayne Gacy Part 5 “The Horror Unfolds”
In this harrowing episode, Tony Ciaglia and his father Al peel back the bloodstained layers of John Wayne Gacy’s final killing spree—when the bodies no longer fit beneath the floorboards and the monster behind the clown makeup grew more careless, arrogant, and vicious. From the chilling murder of 15-year-old Robert Piest to the river-dumped remains of Gacy’s forgotten victims, this episode tracks

Season 7 Slipping Through The Cracks Of Justice John Wayne Gacy Part 4 “Handcuffs and Horror”
Step inside the twisted world of John Wayne Gacy—a suburban home that looked ordinary on the outside but hid unimaginable horrors within. In this episode, Tony and Al dive into Gacy’s chilling methods: his Tiki Bar of terror, the “magic trick” handcuffs that became instruments of torture, and his monstrous transformation from jovial host to sadistic predator. You’ll hear survivor accounts that exp

Season 7 Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice,John Wayne Gacy Part 3 “Screams on Summerdale”
In this harrowing third installment of the Gacy series, Tony Ciaglia and his no-bullshit co-host and dad Al—take listeners deep into the heart of darkness at 8213 West Summerdale Avenue. With chilling precision and raw emotion, Screams on Summerdale exposes how John Wayne Gacy’s monstrous acts escalated under the noses of neighbors, law enforcement, and even his own wife.As the bodies begin to pil

Season 7, Slipping Through the Cracks of Justice – Part 2: The Deadly Charade of John Wayne Gacy
In this chilling second installment, host Tony Ciaglia—The Serial Killer Whisperer—is joined by his father Al and brother Joey as they plunge even deeper into the twisted descent of John Wayne Gacy.After serving a laughable eighteen months in prison for sexually assaulting a teenage boy, Gacy slithers his way back into society… and right under the radar. He moves in with his mother, launches his c

Season 7 Slipping Through The Cracks of Justice John Wayne Gacy: Part 1 - "Gacy’s Dark Beginnings"
Murder Phone is back, and this season, we’re exposing killers who slipped through the cracks of justice. These monsters walked free when they should have been stopped !! And who better to start with than John Wayne Gacy—the monster who hid in plain sight.Gacy was more than a murderer—he was a grinning demon with an insatiable hunger for control. A respected businessman, a community leader, even a

Christmas Message From Your Host Tony Ciaglia
Tony sends a special Christmas Message and talks about his Near Death ExperienceTony shares one of his writings titled "Standing Before God"He discusses his unwavering faith in God and talks of life with a T.B.I. Standard Legal Disclaimer for Murder Phone:“The content of this podcast, including all phone calls, interviews, and original commentary, is the exclusive property of Murder Phon

Season 6 Episode 11 “Ken Bianchi The Hillside Strangler “Who The Hell Is Tony D’Amato ”
This Episode is Titled The Wrap Up, “Who The Hell Is Tony D’Amato” Tony, Al and Joey are hosting this exciting Season Finale.Together they will explain the bombshell news about who Tony D’Amato is.The case against Ken Bianchi will be wrapped up today as you will hear details about Tony’s visit with Ken’s mom Frances back in 2010. Tony has never revealed the shocking detail of this visit until now

Season 6 Episode 10 “Ken Bianchi The Hillside Strangler “Serial Killer Show And Tell”
This episode is titled “Serial Killer Show And Tell”This is truly an episode to watch on the Murder Phone You Tube Channel.Tony and Al are going to have a little fun and share a few of the items and artwork that Tony received from Bianchi over the years. I think by now you are very aware of what a whack job Bianchi is, but Tony will show you through some of their conversations just how weird this

Season 6 Episode 9 " Bianchi The Hillside Strangler “I Never Killed Anyone, It’s All Fiction"
In this episode Tony and Al are going to let Captain Kenneth Bianchi take the stand and present his case. Kenny has faked being an MPD, has confessed, pleaded guilty and asked for a plea deal so he wouldn’t get executed.But all we’ve heard this season is how innocent he is!Bianchi said if he could get the information out to the world he could prove his innocence, so Captain Bianchi here is your ch

Season 6 Episode 8 “Ken Bianchi The Hillside Strangler “Infidelity, Hypnosis and Alibis”
Tony’s story starts with a taped conversation where Bianchi describes how his wife was unfaithful to while he was in jail. He found out much later that a psychologist that worked for the defense team was sleeping with Kelli. This certainly is karma at its best.In another taped conversation Ken went to great lengths to describe how he was framed and never committed any of the crimes. Tony shares pa

Season 6 Episode 7 “Ken Bianchi The Hillside Strangler AKA The Bellingham Strangler”
Bianchi continues to fake his innocence and on various phone calls you will hear him talk how it pisses him off that killers can’t be honest with victims families so they can have closure. This coming from someone who has murdered 12 girls and still feigns innocence. Tony and Al will cover the murders of Kimberly Martin the 9th victim and Cindy Hudspeth the 10th and final victim of the Hillside St

Season 6 Episode 6 “November Nightmare”
This is November 1977 and it would become one of the most terrifying months in L,A history. The Hillside Stranglers, Angelo Buono and Kennith Bianchi were about to embark on a killing spree that would have the women of Los Angeles in a panic.As Ken Bianchi talks on recorded phone conversations about what a nice romantic guy he is, and professes his innocence. Tony and Al will describe how The Hil

Season 6 Special Edition Episode 4 “Solving The I-70 Killings Part 2”
Guests: Bob Cyphers, Adam Murray and Aaron MurrayBob Cyphers knows this case better than most and Adam and Aaron Murray know the alleged killer better than anyone. Tony and Al thought it would be great to get them all back on the show, and give them a chance to ask each other questions relating to the crimes and the alleged killer. It’s been 32 years since Tony was hit in the head by that jet s

Season 6 Special Episode 5 "We Found The Root Cellar" From The Best Of Murder Phone
This episode is from our "The Best Of Murder Phone" list ! Tony, Al and Joey were very disappointed after the first trip to Cape Cod in December of 2016. They found the general area of the root cellar so they knew it was there, but they needed a new plan of attack. We began to investigate Ground Penetrating Radar and after much investigation and some disappointments we finally are able

Season 6 Special Episode 3 Solving The I-70 Killings: with Guests Adam and Aaron Murray
Tony and Al are trying to solve the identity of the I-70 killer. The case is 32 years old, but the detectives have never given up. With the help of todays guests we hope to give them the pieces of the puzzle that they need to finally close this case. These two men first became fans of Murder Phone and since then we have become friends. One day they contacted Tony and said they thought they had an

Season 6 Special Edition Episode 2 with Guest Bob Cyphers
Bob Cyphers spent his career as a news reporter and producer for CBS affiliate KMOV in St Louis. In 1992 he covered an unusual murder in nearby St Charles, Mo. that turned out to be the 1st of the I-70 Killings At the time he had no idea this would become part of his life. He joined a cold case task force in 2021 and has recently authored a book titled Dead End: Inside the Hunt for the I-70 Killer

Season 6 Special Edition Episode 1 The I-70 Killings, History and Investigations
It's been over 32 years since these killings happened and they are still unsolved.This cowardly killer would shoot defenseless victims in the back of the head for no apparent reason, and he has never been Identified.Tony and his dad will cover the series of murders, then they will follow information that was presented through the years as authorities tried to put the pieces together and iden

Season 6 Episode 5 The Hillside Stranglers “L.A. Women”
The year is 1976 and Kenny is 25 years old and moving away from mommy with a whole bunch of problems. Tony shares many phone conversations with Bianchi covering his move to L.A. and his feelings about woman. These are all lies of course because Ken Bianchi has never revealed the real truth about the ruthless killer he is. As an adult Bianchi’s behavior had gotten worse. He has grown into a polish

Season 6 Episode 4 Ken Bianchi: “The Demon Teeth of The Hillside Strangler”
Tony shares a phone clip with Bianchi’s mom that has never been revealed before. When Kenny was 4 or 5 he got 3 sets of front teeth. She asked the dentist if he would be a demon, and if he would go crazy later in life.Talk about foreshadowing isn’t it ironic that this guy truly is a demon.Bianchi’s adopted father Nick Bianchi died suddenly in 1965. It has been said that Frances made him wear his d

Season 6 Episode 3 Ken Bianchi: The Trial of the Hillside Strangler “Nature or Nurtured”
Last week Tony covered the terrible effects of ABS Abandoned Baby Syndrome. We know how bad Ken’s first 3 months were and now we will hear some of what the rest of his childhood was like. Tony will quote comments from some of the Medical reports that go back as far as the 1950s. Here are a few examples:“The relationship between Ken and his adoptive mother was not normal”Ken Bianchi was a bed wett

Season 6 Episode 2 Francis Bianchi “Loving Mother or Evil Step Mom”
This episode we are going back to Ken’s early years and we’ll see some of the reasons he turned out the way he did.Frances Bianchi and Tony became good friends so you will hear a lot of conversation from her during this season. As we get into the story we’ll see that it was a really complicated relationship between mother and son. A true Oedipus complex.Tony and Al think that this, along with his

Season 6 Episode 1 The Trial of Ken Bianchi “The Hillside Strangler”
Ken Bianchi’s life long wish was that his story could be told to the world to prove his innocence. This season we will grant his wish and present his case. Ken through old phone calls and letters will act as his defense lawyer and try to lie over and over again to prove he is an innocent victim.Tony and his dad will be the prosecutors and present the case that proves he is a lying, psychopathic s

Season 5 Episode 12 “The Wrap Up”
Tony, his brother Joey and his Dad help him wrap up the entire season. Given all the information that Metheny has shared it is quite a task. This Episode is a must watch on You Tube. Tony shares some new videos of Joe Metheny’s neighbor, and where Joe lived before he was arrested. In order to help tell Metheny’s story and prove he was telling the truth Tony also shares all the seasons videos in an

Episode 11 “Visit With a Monster” Part 2
Tony takes you back to July 2010 when he visits Joe Roy Metheny in prison.Tony and Al share videos of their trip that have never been seen before and they will make you feel like you were there with them. You will go under the bridge with us where he murdered 5 people and tasted human meat for the first timeYou will see The Border Line Bar and Grill where he hung out and hired prostitutesYou will

Episode 10 “Visit With a Monster”
Tony takes you back to July 2010 on one of his investigative trips to meet with the Monster Joe Roy MethenyTony and Al actually visit Joe Metheny in prison. They are the only visitors this monster ever had other than detectivesDuring the two days of visits Tony recounts the many stories that Metheny shared with them. He spoke openly of killings he was never charged with, his fascination with havin

Season 5 Special Edition "Madness"
Tony and Al announce when Season 5 Episode 10 will resume.Tony shares scenes from his screenplay “Madness”.It’s a fictional story based on the many serial killers that Tony has corresponded with over the last 15 years. Standard Legal Disclaimer for Murder Phone:“The content of this podcast, including all phone calls, interviews, and original commentary, is the exclusive property of Murder Phone P

Season #5 A Special Message From Your Host Tony Ciaglia
Tony and Al are going to take a short holiday break.Tony describes a little bit about the final 3 episodes of Season 5 Tony talks about depression and how it's tough during the holiday season.Tony shares one of his writings titled "Pull The Plug", which covers a low point in his life with a Traumatic Brain Injury. Standard Legal Disclaimer for Murder Phone:“The content of this podca

Season 5 Episode 9 “Child Killer”
Joe Metheny admits to brutally murdering 6 year old Robin and her mother Kelly. The blood chilling details are not for the faint hearted. Just when you think Metheny is done talking about his First Kill he comes with more details about what he did on the anniversary of her murder.Once again Joe aka Tiny toys with the idea of giving Tony the locations of his many victims. He continues to ask for mo

Season 5 Episode 8 “I Did The Bitches I Killed A Favor”
Joe Metheny talks about how he did the many girls that he killed a favor. His favorite line was "They were just drug addicted bitches with one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave."Tony asks Metheny a question that he asks all of the serial killers he’s writing: This is very short but important to me in gaining knowledge about you. When your life is over tell me what it is th

Season 5 Episode 7 “Rest In Peace, Catherine”
In todays episode Tony and Al are going to cover the question they have been receiving from our Murderphoniacs.Is Joe Metheny is a true sociopath?Tony actually asks Metheny on a rare phone call if he thinks he’s a sociopath, and receives an answer you have to hear.Tony shares a heartwarming story that he wrote to a friend who lost her sister. He wanted to see how Metheny would respond. In disgusti

Season 5 Episode 6 “Roadtrip”
Joe Metheny discusses with Tony what life is like in prison, describes in detail who his “Prison Brothers” were. Metheny’s letters are so detailed and are always fascinating, putting the listener right in the middle of the story.Tiny describes how he thought he saw a ghost when describing one of the female guards. She reminded him of the 12 year old girl that was his first kill back in 1970. He lo

Episode 5 “The T- Shirt and The Tooth”
Metheny sends Tony an unexpected present. He also describes more about his first kill experiences.Joe Metheny sends Tony a tooth that he pulled out of his mouth. This tooth actually consumed human flesh.Metheny also provides Tony with a T Shirt that is a 9 Large which give you an idea of the size of this monster. IOn the T-Shirt Tiny depicts in cartoon form what he used to do to his victims as he

Season 5 Episode 4 “First Kill”
Tony and Al revisit Tony’s Near death Experience from 1993Discussion about a new movie titled “After Death brings excitement and new discussion to the fact that there really is Life after DeathMetheny discusses how he was a serial killer in the making since his early childhood. From hurting insects then animals to other kids in his neighborhood.Metheny talks in detail with Tony about his first kil

Season 5 Episode 3 “A Monster In The Making”
This episode starts with Tony reading a description of one of Joe Metheny’s chilling murders. Metheny describes why he believes his mom is at fault for him becoming a serial killer. In a letter titled “Tears of a Child” Metheny describes his childhood and how he was left on the streets of Baltimore at the age of 6 to fend for himself. Tony and Al through Metheny’s letters and phone calls prove tha

Season 5 Episode 2 “ Getting To Know Joe”
In todays episode we’re going to get to know a little bit about Joe MethenyJoe Metheny is the personification of evil. He didn’t try to hide who he was, there were no masks. He is one of the most vile people that you will ever hear about. Tony explains that when he got the letter from Metheny in January 2007 he really didn't know anything about these maniacs back then. But now after 15 years

Season 5 Episode 1 Joseph Roy Metheny “The Cannibal Creator” The Beginning
A serial killers true life story as told by Joe Metheny to Tony Ciaglia over a 7 year relationship. In the first of 12 episodes Tony and Al discuss some of the things they will be covering this season as they take a deep dive into the little known real life of Joe Metheny.Metheny’s first kill of a 12 year old girl when he was 15Metheny discusses why he became a serial killer Killed mostly hookers

Season 4 Episode 18 Part Two Bonus Q & A Call with some of our Murderphoniacs
Tony, Al and Joey have a question and answer call with some of the MurderphoniacsManfried West’s remarkable artworkRobert Hansen and his secret cabinOur future trip tp Alaska and how our Murderphoniacs can helpClues regarding finding Hansen’s secret cabinA discussion of what was their favorite season. What killer would they like us to cover next. Standard Legal Disclaimer for Murder Phone:“The con

Season 4 Episode 17 Part One Bonus Q & A Call with some of our Murderphoniacs
Tony, Al and Joey have a question and answer call with some of the Murderphoniacs!Points of Discussion:Manfried West’s remarkable story of changeRobert Hansen and his secret cabinOur future trip tp Alaska and how our Murderphoniacs can helpClues regarding finding Hansen’s secret cabinA surprise call on the Murder Phone from Hadden Clark A discussion of what was their favorite season. What killer w

Season 4 Episode 16 Finding Megan Emerick “Finding The Cabin (Again) Part 2”
Tony and Al welcome Joey to the podcast to discuss how they are going to finally find Hansen’s secret cabin. When these 3 get together you need to get ready to laugh.A summary of the season and where they are at today.The guys go over man of the clues and information that they will use to find the cabin.Tony sums up why they believe now is the time to find the cabin:We have Manfried’s notes, We t

Finding Megan Emerick: Episode 15 A discussion with Manfried West's former attorney Bill Satterberg
Tony and Al have a fascinating discussion with Bill Satterberg. Bill was Manfred’s attorney back when Joe Vogler was killed. Bill talked with Manfried before our call and received permission from him to talk about the case.We learn exactly how the killing of Joe Vogler took place and that Bill felt Manfried had an excellent self defense case.You will hear the real story of how Joe Voglers body was

Season 4 Episode 14 Finding Megan Emerick “Finding The Cabin (Again) Part 1”
Tony and Manfried are now in present day so everything they do from now on is about finding the cabin and of course bringing Megan Emerick home. Tony had to make sure that Manfried was still on board so he asks him if he still wants to try to find the cabin.He shares their most recent conversation, and here is just a little of what we learn:Manfried wants to do it, but you can tell he’s fed up.The

Season 4 Episode 13 Finding Megan Emerick “Moving Ahead, On Our Own”
In 2013 for some unknown reason the plug was pulled on the investigation to find the cabin where Megan Emerick was buried.Tony and Manfried never gave up and decided they would use all the information that they had compiled and move ahead on their own.Tony was constantly trying other ways to find Hansen’s cabin. This included many attempts through Hollywood connections that always led to dead ends

Season 4 Special Episode "The Venom of the Black Widow"
In this Special Episode Tony share's one of his original writings from 2008. The Venom of the Black Widow is the story of a woman that just can't stand the thought of her boyfriend leaving her. Laverne Holton has her own unique way of keeping the man she loves close to her. Standard Legal Disclaimer for Murder Phone:“The content of this podcast, including all phone calls, interviews, and

Season 4 Episode 12 Finding Megan Emerick “We’re On Our Own!”
Tony discusses questions he has received about living life with a TBI. Manfried is so happy to be back in Alaska. Listen to a conversation he has just after he gets back. Manfried really wants to find Megan Emerick, but he’s beginning to think something is up. Everything went silent and none of us know why. Manfried once again reiterates that he can pinpoint the location of the cabin if he can jus

Episode 11 Finding Megan Emerick “The Frozen Ground” Movie Plays a Part!
The newspaper article is once again causing big problems for Manfried. Manfried tells Tony that he wants to meet with the lady from Seward, Shiela Squires and Agent Gary who didn’t know about the article. He wanted nothing to do with the agent that he felt leaked the article that truly put him in danger. At this time they are seriously looking for the cabin, but Agent Gary is still going to Gage

Season 4 Episode 10 Finding Megan Emerick “The Newspaper Article”
Tony explains that because of what happened to Megan Emerick, Mary Thill and the rest of Hansens victims that we owe it to them to cover this the right way. The whole point of this season is to complete the search for this cabin that we started in 2008, and we’re going to need a lot of help with this. It has to become a Murderphoniac team effort. I believe that everyone that sticks with us and is

Season 4 Episode 9 “The Cabin” The Center for Missing and Exploited Children
The ball is rolling and The National center for Missing and Exploited Children have joined the search for the Cabin where Megan Emerick is buried.Megan was last seen in Seward, Alaska on July 7, 1973. Investigators believe the serial killer Robert Hansen may have been involved in Megan's disappearance, but he denied any involvement in her case. Hansen did admit to Manfried that he brought Meg

Season 4 Special Episode: “Fuck My Life”
Tony has suffered with severe depression for the past 4 weeks, so he felt it was time for some light hearted comedy. Today he will share his fictional tale about a really bad day. It’s titled “Fuck My Life”Tony’s favorite pastime is writing and over the years his favorite topic was comedy. He often would send the criminals copies of his writings.Manfried especially loved Tony’s stories. Tony shar

Season 4 Special Episode: Message from Your Host Tony Ciaglia about TBI “The Silent Epidemic”
I suffered a severe TBI in July 1992 when I was struck in the head by a jet ski. Very little was know back then about Traumatic Brain Injury and it was a miracle that I survived. Traumatic Brain Injury then was known as “The Silent Epidemic”.It is now March 2023, more than 30 years after my accident, and TBI is still considered The Silent Epidemic. It is my mission in life to try and shed some li

Season 4 Episode 8 Finding Megan Emerick “The Cabin”
The odyssey to find "The Cabin" continues. The search becomes very real when the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children gets involved. Manfried finally gets out of the hole and you’ll hear a conversation between Tony and him describing how he handled the Hansen situation. West gets sent to an Arizona prison on Con Air and he continues to ask Tony for help on the Cabin and fin

Season 4 Episode 7 “Joe Vogler, The FBI, The Hole”
Tony reveals a letter that Manfred’s attorney sent to the Parole Board in 2022 although Manfried’s hearing isn’t until 2025. This is not a normal occurrence and you can see that Mr. Satterberg clearly believes that Manfried acted in self defense, and that he has reformed himself and deserves parole. Tony hears about the Cabin for the first time and the fact that Hansen told him where it is. Tony

Season 4 Episode 6 Finding Megan Emerick “The Story Starts Now”
Tony and Al prepare to go to Alaska to visit Manfried and meet Robert Hansen at the Alaskan Native Dinner.However Tony had no way of knowing that things were happening that would change the course of his relationship with West.During the next several months you will see a dramatic change in the events surrounding Manfried and Hansen!Hansen went from being Bob, to being referred to as The Worm, an

Season 4: A Message from Your Host Tony Ciaglia
March is Brain Injury Awareness month. Tony being a TBI survivor has decided to share one of his writings discussing the despair that comes with having severe depression caused by his Brain Injury.. This is a moving and very personal account of what brain injury can cause. .Standard Legal Disclaimer for Murder Phone:“The content of this podcast, including all phone calls, interviews, and original

Season 4 Episode 4 Getting to Know Robert Hansen. Part 2 Slipping through the Cracks of Justice, Early years, The Crimes,
Manfried West and Robert Hansen, Nature vs Nurture: Manfried West nicknamed Robert Hansen “The Worm” This is his story.Robert Hansen grew up hating his father who constantly subjected him to ridicule and mockery, and a mother who was compliant in the harsh treatment of her son. The bullying Hansen suffered as a child shaped his hatred of women. He was painfully shy, had a stutter and severe acne t

Episode 4 Getting to Know Robert Hansen The Cellmate From Hell
In this episode we’re going all the way back to when Manfried West met his “Cellmate from Hell” Robert Hansen for the very first time. We will hear directly from Manfried West what it was like sharing a cell with the Butcher Baker. Hansen covered up who he was and acted so nice, you would never know how bad he is because he wears the Serial Killer Mask even in prison.Manfried had to read a book a

Episode 3 Getting to Know Manfried West Part 2 “Hatred and Anger/Cookies and Coffee”
Manfried walked through life with nothing but Hatred and Anger controlling his actions. He learned and lived the criminal life style at an early age. Manfrieds mom talks about his terrible upbringing and the way he was treated by his father. The frequent beatings and constant mental abuse. His mother admits how she failed him. Manfried tells how he shot his friend Joe Volger and how he should have

Episode 2 Getting to Know Manfried West Part 1 The Early Years
Manfred Forest West was born in 1956 in Jayville New York. He is in prison for murder 2 and other charges. Manfried grew up angry and mad at life in the backwoods of the mountains in upstate New York. They lived 4 miles from the nearest neighbors, the deep wilderness became his playground. Creeks, lakes, and old abandoned trail roads, caves and trees. His toys were sticks, old car parts, deer and
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