
Baggage
Baggage is a podcast that blends personal storytelling with conversational humor, similar to shows like This American Life and SmartLess. Hosted by four unlikely friends—a doctor, a prosecutor, a comedian, and a writer—it features raw, intimate narratives from diverse guests about the emotional weight they carry. The hosts bring their distinct perspectives to each conversation, offering empathy, wit, and curiosity. The show also partners with charities focused on trauma and mental health, aiming to donate profits and raise awareness for organizations like the Dear Jack Foundation and Canine Companions.
Episodes

Circus Performer (Kimberly)
Being a circus performer is interesting enough. But the guest on this episode tells the guys how pursuing her dream job led to a nightmare relationship. Kimberly shares her harrowing experience with coercive control and manipulation during her time in Scotland. This may be a difficult one to listen to but important to highlight the signs of manipulation, the cycle of abuse, and the importance of a

Carry-On: Podcast Panhandling
In this follow-up episode of Carry-On, the guys reflect on their recent firefighter interview before quickly veering into the kind of off-the-rails conversation listeners have come to expect. They discuss a tragic wildfire update, Eric's bold attempt to raise money for charity outside Red Rocks, AI critiquing the podcast itself, Ryan Connor's surprise engagement announcement, cholesterol talk, and

Firefighter (Scott)
It turns out firefighting has little to do with using a hose relative to everything else expected of them. In this episode, the guys interview Scott, a veteran firefighter and paramedic with 26 years of experience. Scott shares his compelling stories from the front lines—ranging from wildland rescues to the emotional toll of emergency responses. Discover what it truly takes to serve as a first res

Carry-On: Vigilante Justice For All
In this episode, the guys debate World Cup soccer … Well, not really. Ryan just feels compelled to show how much he knows about it. But they do debate the movie “Watchmen” versus the HBO show “Watchmen” as if the two are … Well, it’s not really a debate. Eric is just completely wrong. Anyway, they discuss the vigilante killing of Jeff Doucet by Gary Plauché amongst other vigilante-related tangents

Rape/Kidnapping Survivor (Cheryl)
This episode is certainly one of the most compelling, terrifying, and heartfelt thus far. Hosts Ryan Frank and Eric Shaw speak to Cheryl about her harrowing experience of being kidnapped and raped by a stranger when she was just 16 years old. Cheryl is joined by her brother, Scott, to provide a unique look at not just the immediate effects an assault has on a survivor but also the ripple effects i

Carry-On: Mindhunted
In this episode, the guys reflect on the previous episode that featured FBI profilers Melissa and Adrienne. As a special treat from them, they provided a criminal profile of host Eric Shaw … It’s spot on. The guys then digress in random thoughts about who is the most serial killerish, what happens to bullets in fire, etc.You can view a video version of this episode here: https://youtu.be/Z-cLxwaLz

The FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit (Melissa & Adrienne)
In this episode, recently retired federal agents, Melissa Merola & Adrienne Malin, talk about their years in the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU). Dramatized by shows like Mindhunter and Criminal Minds, the real stories from the BAU are even more compelling when told by those that actually worked the cases. Hear about cases like the fake kidnapping of Sherri Papini, the poisoning death of

Carry-On: Puppy Troubles
The guys follow up on the last episode that featured Lonnie, a man that had to deal cleaning up after suicides and the like. There’s a large portion of the show dedicated to Ryan Conner and Ryan Frank’s blood work. It accomplishes nothing. The real challenge was Ryan Frank trying to make it through the whole episode while dealing with the unofficial co-host, his new puppy.You can view a video vers

Death Scene Cleaner (Lonnie)
In this episode, the guys delve into the world of disaster restoration with Lonnie Beacham, owner of Restore It Restoration in Jefferson City, Missouri. Lonnie shares intense, authentic stories from decades of cleaning up after traumatic events. Traumatic, in this case, often means a post-suicide scene. Lonnie shares the challenges of biohazard work and insights into how this gritty job influences

Carry-On: One Order of CRISPR Bacon Please
In this episode, the guys do a short update related to the 2018 stolen aircraft incident as well as an update on the Gilgo Beach serial killer. Then, it’s all about science. Eric educates everyone on CRISPR and other advances in science. Then Ryan has the others judge him on his medical stats. If you make it to the end, you get a prize! Full disclaimer: there is no prize.Music provided by Quincy L

Cancer Survivor (Erika; ft. Dear Jack Foundation)
In this second collaboration with the Dear Jack Foundation, Erika shares her inspiring story of navigating a rare blood cancer starting from young adulthood, facing misdiagnosis, and eventually channeling her experiences into advocacy and support for others. Discover how resilience, support, and purpose can transform a life drastically altered by illness.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https:/

Carry-On: You Can't Handle the Truth!
Ryan and Eric talk about the recent retirement of the last guest, the emotional toll of police work, etc. They also talk about how TV and movies portray their professions.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.com/).Artwork provided by Megan Weaver (https://meganweaverart.com/).Special thank you to our premium members. If you’d like to support the show and listen ad free, you c

Police Chief (Capt. Joe Harvey)
In this episode, the guys are joined by the Chief of Police for Golden, Colorado, Captain Joe Harvey. He shares his extraordinary life story—from a childhood filled with trauma and hardship to becoming a dedicated law enforcement leader. His insights on resilience, forgiveness, community trust, and mental health offer invaluable lessons for anyone seeking purpose and strength in the face of advers

Carry-On: The Battle of Butcha
In this episode, the guys delve into the recent history of the Ukraine war, focusing on the Battle of Buccia, its atrocities, and how it has shaped Ukrainian resolve. They also explore personal narratives from those who have experienced the conflict firsthand, discussing lessons learned about war, human capacity for evil, and the importance of international support.Music provided by Quincy Ledbett

Ukrainian Battlefield Medic (Alina Sarnatska; ft. The Leleka Foundation)
In this episode, the guys collaborate with the Leleka Foundation on the four-year anniversary of Russia’s latest invasion of Ukraine. Leleka’s Head of Strategic Communications, Iryna Solomko, provides insight on the background and current issues of the conflict. Also on this episode is Alina Sarnatska, a former battlefield medic. She provides a unique insight with personal stories of the heartache

Carry-On: Pushing Tin
In this episode, the guys follow up on the recent Air Traffic Controller guest episode by delving into the challenges faced by those in the profession, discussing the complexities of the job, the interplay between the FAA and the union, and the impact of staffing shortages. They explore the unique pressures of the profession, including the demanding work schedules and the difficulty of transferrin

Air Traffic Controller (Kasey)
In this episode, the guys interview Kasey. Until very recently, an air traffic controller. You won’t hear many air traffic controllers being interviewed. And after this episode, you’ll understand why. The guys talk about the difficulties faced by controllers these days; some expected, some not. They also share some interesting and/or funny stories about what happens on the job. Area 51 even gets a

Carry-On: Horses ... The Silent Killer
In this episode, Ryan Conner starts off with shamming Ryan Frank about his abysmal year in their fantasy football league. It’s unnecessary, hurtful, and we will speak no more on the subject. The guys then talk about the implications of recent rulings on abusive head trauma and the ongoing trends in book banning and censorship. As is the case with every Carry-On episode, the guys eventually end up

Librarian (Marian)
In this episode, the guys talk to Marian as she shares her life as a librarian and some of the crazy, creepy things librarians experience. She discusses the evolving role of libraries in society, the challenges they face with funding and political pressures, and the impact of book banning and censorship. She also explores the future of libraries in the age of AI and reflects the community's relati

Carry-On: We Have Opinions!
In this episode, the guys expand on the most recent episode featuring Canine Companions. Ryan gives his opinion on Abusive Head Trauma and its portrayal in the media. That leads to a discussion about felony murder. Ryan, let’s say, takes issue with how it was discussed in a recent episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (S12 E29 · November 9, 2025: Felony Murder).Music provided by Quincy Led

Facility Dog Handler (Amber; ft. Canine Companions)
In collaboration with Canine Companions, the guys interview Amber Urban. Amber is a former sex crimes detective with the Arora, Colorado Police Department and currently works as Director of Victim Services and Handler of Courthouse Facility Dog for the Arapahoe District Attorney’s Office. Amber, along with one of Canine Companions’ executive directors, Natalie Nuce, helps explain the vital role of

Carry-On: Jailhouse Rock
The guys follow up on the most recent episode that featured Russ Hamilton, a correctional officer with years of experience and some out there stories. The Ryans and Eric didn’t experience any riots, but they do have a few jail stories of their own. No, not from the inside (although there’s still time). The guys share anecdotes from work and life that hit on the mental health issues and dangerous s

Correctional Officer (Russ Hamilton)
In this episode, the guys are joined by Russ Hamilton, a former correctional officer with extensive experience in the prison system. Russ shares his journey from starting at San Quentin State Prison to his current role in reentry and rehabilitation work. He discusses the challenges and dangers faced by correctional officers, the complexities of prison dynamics; and shares some wild stories about f

Carry-On: Space Camp
In this episode, the guys talk a little about Ryan Conner’s writing talents as well as the most recent episode featuring firefighter Brad Lilly. Eric talks about how the trauma Brad shared just scratched the surface compared to what’s in his book. Apropos of nothing, Eric shares a couple stories from space camp. And then they end where they always do: talking about movies from the 80s.You find Bra

Firefighter (Brad Lilly)
In this episode, the guys are joined by Brad Lilly, a former firefighter and author. Warning! This is one of the more graphic episodes descripting traumatic events. The guys delve into the intense and often overlooked mental health challenges faced by firefighters. Brad shares his personal journey through trauma, the impact of cumulative stress, and the struggle for mental well-being in a high-pre

Carry-On: Movie Talk
Eric and Ryan Frank talk a little (and we mean a little) about the most recent episode with Charlee Minkin, a Judo Olympian. Then the guys just slip into movie talk. Without Ryan Conner or Adrian around, those two revert to their 13-year-old selves. They hit on the classics (80s classics that is) and trash talk Star Wars.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.com/).Artwork prov

Olympian (Charlee)
Join the guys as they dive into the inspiring journey of Charlee Minkin, a 2004 Olympian and owner of the Sanctuary Dojo. Charlee shares her experiences growing up in a challenging environment, her path to the Olympics, and how martial arts became her escape and passion. Discover the transformative power of judo and jiu-jitsu, and how Charlee is now passing on her knowledge and love for the sport

Carry-On: Karate Kids
In this episode, the guys follow up on the last episode that featured immigration lawyer, Kyle Mitchell. They start by discussing the impact of social media on public perception (translation . . . the internet is a dark place). There’s a fun clip of Kyle’s double life as a jiu-jitsu purple belt fighting crime (not exactly). That then leads to the guys taking a hard right into talking about caulifl

Immigration Lawyer (Kyle)
In this episode, the guys delve into the personal stories of asylum seekers. Guest Kyle Mitchell shares his stories as an immigration lawyer in New York City. From the harrowing escape of a Honduran family threatened by gangs to the incredible tale of an Ecuadorian woman facing unimaginable threats from her “serial killer” mother-in-law, these stories reveal the current stresses of those seeking r

Carry-On: Don't Be So Marrow-Minded
The guys follow up the latest episode which featured Brandon in cooperation with the Dear Jack Foundation. They share a couple of bonus clips from Brandon. One about how his journey with cancer has given him a better appreciation for life; and another about the truly beautiful gift Andrew McMahon and the foundation gave to him. Of course, when it's just the guys, the conservation devolves from bon

Cancer Survivor (Brandon; ft. Dear Jack Foundation)
In this special episode, Baggage, in collaboration with The Dear Jack Foundation, interviews Brandon who shares his personal journey with cancer, including the challenges of diagnosis, treatment, and the impact on relationships. The episode highlights the importance of community support, mental health resources, and the unique struggles faced by young adults in their cancer journeys. Please enjoy

Carry-On: Fly the Friendly Skies
In this episode, the guys share hilarious and embarrassing flight stories that arise during air travel. They delve into personal anecdotes from their sad, sad high school days and bizarre college experiences. Let’s all be glad that we were not their frenemy or roommate during this period of their lives.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.com/).Artwork provided by Megan Weave

Flight Attendant (Charlie)
In this episode, the guys talk to Charlie, a flight attendant and amateur pilot. Charlie shares his unique insights into the challenges and unexpected situations he’s faced. From dealing with difficult passengers to the realities of in-flight emergencies, the discussion highlights the often-unappreciated aspects of air travel employees. Charlie also talks about his experiences as a glider and fixe

Carry-On: Killdozer & Other Oddities
In this episode, the guys delve into a variety of dark and unusual topics, including the infamous Killdozer incident, a stolen aircraft joyride, a shocking case of bestiality, and the Gilgo Beach serial killings. All of which were touched on in some form or another with their most recent guest, medicolegal death investigator, Patrick.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.com/)

Death Investigator (Patrick)
The guys interview Patrick Glen, a medicolegal death investigator. What exactly is a medicolegal death investigator? Among other things, they see more dead people than any profession that you’ve ever heard or thought of. If that wasn’t Baggage-worthy enough, Patrick also had to personally interact with the families of the deceased nearly every time. He talks about suicides (and we mean a lot of su

Carry-On: Special Delivery
In this episode, Ryan and Eric follow up on the last episode that featured a firefighter. So of course they discuss childbirth, rats, and wildfires. Eric shares his stories of delivering babies during his medical training and the challenges faced during his wife's pregnancy. Then the guys talk about rats, mice, more rats, and raccoons (nothing to do with firefighting of course). Regardless, it’s t

Chicago Firefighter (Dan)
In this episode, the guys are joined by veteran Chicago firefighter Dan Kennedy. Dan shares his journey into firefighting, the traditions of the Chicago Fire Department, and the challenges faced by first responders today. The discussion covers the importance of community impact, the roles of EMTs and paramedics, and the emotional experiences that come with the job, including responding to emergenc

Carry-On: Sovereign Citizen Kane
In this episode, the guys share their . . . experiences with law enforcement. Thankfully, they avoid implicating themselves in any major felonies. Needless to say, they learned from their youthful indiscretions with the traffic laws. Then the guys get to the truly crazy beliefs of Sovereign Citizens. Things like admiralty law and straw men. What are those things? Made up BS. But it is entertaining

Alaska State Trooper (Ben)
In this episode, former Alaska State Trooper Benjamin Garcia shares his unique experiences and challenges he faced while serving in one of the most rugged and remote areas of the United States. He discusses the wildlife encounters, the extreme cold, the rigorous training, and the realities of law enforcement in Alaska, including the high rates of violent crime and the need for self-reliance in dan

Carry-On: Death to Skunks!
In this episode, the guys catch up with Ryan Conner who is back after surviving the LA wild fires. Ryan Frank shares his harrowing story of surviving a skunk encounter where he was completely justified in his actions, without question. The guys then swap stories about when they’ve called 911 in various situations. They keep it light. No one died. We promise.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (http

911 Dispatcher (Beth)
In this episode, Ryan Frank and Eric Shaw engage with Beth, a 911 dispatcher from Colorado, to explore the often-overlooked role of dispatchers in emergency services. Beth shares her nearly 20 years of experience, discussing the challenges of multitasking in high-pressure situations, the emotional toll of handling distressing calls, and the unique dynamics of dealing with children in crisis. The c

Carry-On: Two is the Loneliest Number
In this episode, Ryan and Eric talk about PTSD and how Dr. Ryan explained it so much better than Eric did. They reflect on their experiences with service dogs, the benefits of animal therapy, and the evolving roles of dogs in society. There’s also a bit where the guys maybe thought Ryan Conner’s home was on fire. Enjoy!Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.com/).Artwork provid

ER Doctor (Dr. Susan Ryan)
In this episode, the guys are joined by Dr. Susan Ryan, an ER doctor from Colorado. She shares her journey into medicine, her experiences with trauma in the emergency room, and the healing process she has undergone through equine and canine therapy. She discusses the adrenaline rush that comes with emergency medicine, the emotional toll it takes on healthcare professionals, and the importance of b

Carry-On: Cheating Death
In this episode, the hosts talk a lot about nothing but mostly about death. Eric goes off again about the anti-vaccine folks. The guys catch Adrian up on the episode he missed which turns into a conversation how we all should be dead based on our past experiences. Ryan Frank was almost killed by a mystery sickness, Adrian had a harrowing jump from an airplane, and Ryan Conner didn’t eat enough ban

Comedian (Jason Weems)
In this episode, the guys welcome comedian Jason Weems who shares his harrowing experience of collapsing at one of his shows from a severe asthma attack. How severe you ask? Bad enough that he was dead for a few minutes. The conversation explores Jason's journey in comedy, the challenges of performing with a chronic illness, and, of course, the life-threatening incident that occurred during a show

Carry-On: IOU For One Murder
The guys reflect on the latest episode about divorce. Ryan Conner, the only host with real world experience, weighs in with his own experience. Ryan Frank shares a couple of murder-for-hire stories and an additional story from guest Rebecca Gumaer. The episode concludes on a positive note, where Eric shares how a POS got his comeuppance.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.co

Divorce Lawyer (Rebecca Gumaer)
In this episode, family law attorney Rebecca Gumaer shares her journey into family law, discussing the challenges and emotional complexities of divorce cases. She highlights issues such as parental alienation, the role of experts in family law, and the judicial challenges faced in Colorado. The discussion also touches on innovative approaches to divorce resolution and the intersection of criminal

Carry-On: The Episode That Wasn't
So sorry but there is no episode this week. Instead, all Carry-On episodes are now free! So you can go back and listen to any previous Carry-On episode you may have missed and get all caught up. See you next time with our next guest. Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.com/).Artwork provided by Megan Weaver (https://meganweaverart.com/).Special thank you to our premium membe

Flight Medic (Eric)
The guys are joined in this episode by Eric (not the one you are used to). He shares his experiences as a flight medic, exploring the unique challenges and responsibilities flight medics face. They discuss the importance of experience, teamwork, and safety protocols in high-stress situations, as well as the logistics of air transport and the types of calls flight medics typically respond to. The c

Carry-On: It Was Fun ... Until It Wasn't
In this episode, the guys try to talk about the book “'I Try Not to Think of Afghanistan'” but quickly get sidetracked into discussions about pronunciation and the decline of the younger generations’ ability to write effectively. They guys end up reminiscing about movies from the 80s until they eventfully get back to the book and share some compelling and disturbing excerpts. So join in for an int

The Soviet Afghantsi (Anna Reich)
The term Afghantsi refers to military veterans of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan during the 70s and 80s. Largely ignored and forgotten by the governments of former Soviet-bloc countries, these veteran’s stories are often equally overlooked. In this episode, the guys interview Anna Reich, the author of I Try Not to Think of Afghanistan. The book is a collection of years of research done by Anna

Carry-On: Same Sh*t, Different Day
In this Carry-On episode, host and prosecutor Ryan Frank continues to discuss his experiences dealing with child victims. He talks about specific cases with unique issues in the investigation or prosecution There’s also talk about the role of the battle of the experts in child abuse cases and the mental toll such cases can have on a person. Important is how an effective prosecutor’s office actuall

Child-Victim Prosecutor (Ryan)
How’s your day going? Do you want to talk about child porn? Of course not. But someone has to deal with that stuff. In this episode, prosecutor Ryan Frank talks about handling child-victim sexual assault cases, everyone agrees The Simpsons’s comic book guy is a pedophile, co-hosts share how they got out of jury duty, and a lot more.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https://www.qledbetter.com/).A

Carry-On: Apocalypse Prepped
In this episode, the guys agree that having a doctor for a friend is great but it sucks for the doctor. They also discuss who is the most expendable in a post-apocalyptic world. Spoiler: it’s the comedian. Ryan Frank shares his pathway into the Marine Corps and his training to become a helicopter crew chief. His training included SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape). The guys share a c

Presidential Pilot (Mark)
In this episode, the guys are joined by Mark as he tells his experience as a Marine Corps helicopter pilot. Mark shares his path to becoming a pilot, the combat deployments he was on, and his transition to HMX: the President’s squadron. Mark explains the rigorous training process and the precision required in flying HMX helicopters. He shares with us what it’s like flying the most important person

Carry-On: Bugging Out
In this episode, comedian Ryan Conner explains how he survives while living amongst an uncomfortable amount of bugs in LA. He also critiques The World's Ugliest Dog Contest. The guys finally get around to what the show is actually about and listen to clips from the most recent guest: virologist Meghan. She talks about the transition from pandemic to endemic and the frustrations that scientists fel

COVID Virologist (Meghan)
Remember that COVID thing? Well, in this episode, the guys are joined by Meghan, a laboratory director with expertise in virology and infectious diseases. They discuss Meghan's experience working in a clinical testing laboratory during the COVID-19 pandemic. Meghan shares insights into the development of COVID-19 tests, the challenges faced by healthcare workers, and the impact of the pandemic on

Carry-On: Conspiracy Theories
In this episode, the guys have some follow-up comments from Kate’s episode including a clip from possibly the craziest story she had to share. Eric gives his input about Individual Education Plans (IEPs) for kids and, somehow, that leads to talking about 80’s movies about the USSR. There’s also talk about the latest on MDMA treating PTSD. The guys finish up with a preview of what the next episode

Elementary School Educator (Kate)
In this episode, the guys interview Kate. She's spent 17 years as a teacher, teaching coach, and school administrator. Maybe you think your kids' teachers had it hard already but trust us, you have no idea. Kate talks about dealing with difficult parents and the most challenging situations. She also delves into the effects of the pandemic and social media. Yes, there's an unusual number of poop st

Carry-On: Hot Sh*t
In this episode, the guys play a couple of clips that didn't make it into the last episode with guest and Vietnam Vet, Don Frank. That generates a discussion amongst the guys about burn pits and, yes, burning your poo. The guys also talk about what young men do for extended periods of time without the company of women as well as answer listeners' questions.Music provided by Quincy Ledbetter (https

Vietnam Vet (Don) - Part 2
We’re back with part two with retired Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Don Frank’s stories surrounding the Vietnam War. We pick back up when he’s in country dealing with the challenges of combat. He talks about going from Vietnam to having to recruit on college campuses during the war. Finally, he shares he thoughts on PTSD and Vietnam vets’ challenges versus vets of Afghanistan and Iraq.Music prov

Carry-On: Watch What You Eat
This is the first episode of Carry-On: a place to talk about all the stuff that didn’t fit into an episode of Baggage. We go over listeners’ questions from the first half of Don’s Vietnam Vet episode as well as questions from Eric’s three-episode series. There’s Oliver North, Dave Attell, and dysentery stories mixed in there. Plus, we cover the ins and outs and things to avoid regarding Vietnamese

Vietnam Vet (Don) - Part I
Retired Lieutenant Colonel Don Frank shares his early days in the Marine Corps as a captain in Vietnam. We start with his not-so-successful attempt to master the Vietnamese language which, somehow, leads to him being the dean of a Vietnamese language school? Don shares insights into the war, his experiences, and some anecdotes along the way. We finish with Don talking about a very dark day in his

Residency & ER Doctor (Eric)
This episode is the final chapter in Dr. Eric Shaw’s journey in the medical field. He shares his journey through medical residency, the challenges faced in the emergency room, and his transition to outpatient pediatrics. He discusses the emotional toll of working in high-stress medical environments, the importance of humor, and the impact of personal experiences on mental health. The conversation

Medical Student (Eric)
In this episode, we’re back with Eric Shaw as he shares stories from his days as a medical student. The guys delve into the rigorous and often challenging journey of medical training, exploring themes of burnout, trauma, and the emotional toll of working in healthcare. Eric shares personal stories from medical school, including experiences with pediatric patients and the harsh realities of surgica

Paramedic & EMT (Eric)
In the show’s first episode, we start at home. One of the hosts, Eric Shaw, shares his early experiences as an EMT and Paramedic. He explains the challenges faced by first responders, the impact of trauma on mental health, and the often humorous yet harrowing stories that come from their work. The guys explore the moral dilemmas encountered in emergency situations, the realities of working in high

Baggage - Trailer
Baggage is a collection of compelling, unique, and sometimes traumatic stories from people of all walks of life. These stories typically only get heard by the storyteller’s friends, family, or co-workers. Now there is a platform for everyday individuals to share their experiences with a larger audience as well as how they cope with the emotional and mental baggage that sometimes follows those even
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