
That Annuity Show
The podcast is designed for independent insurance agents and retirement planners who want to better explain annuities, especially fixed indexed annuities, to their clients. Each episode offers practical tips and insights that listeners can apply in their next client meeting to improve their effectiveness. The show focuses on the benefits of different types of annuities and aims to build confidence in presenting these financial products.
Episodes

290 - Bruno Caron and Anthony McSwieney on Navigating the Insurance Rating Landscape
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Bruno Caron and Anthony McSwieney of CM Risk Consulting discuss the evolving insurance rating environment and the role of capital, reinsurance, and business strategy in the rating process. Anthony draws on his background in bank treasury and asset-liability management, as well as 16 years at AM Best, while Bruno brings his experience across the insurance indus

289 - Embracing Empathy and Innovation in Insurance with Maria Ferrante-Schepis
Empathy can play an important role in helping clients move from recognizing a need to feeling ready to take action. In a recent episode of The Annuity Show, Maria Ferrante-Schepis, founder of Think Worthy Consulting, discussed how insurance professionals can better understand the "invisible wall" between unmet need and concept of negative demand. Her perspective: education alone may not be enough.

288 - The DOL Fiduciary Rule: Where Things Stand Today
What do recent legal and regulatory developments mean for financial professionals? In this episode, we examine the current status of the Department of Labor's fiduciary rulemaking efforts, the related litigation, and the implications for advisors, insurers, and the broader financial services industry. Joining the conversation are Eric Lund Marhoun, Senior Counsel at Nassau Financial Group, and Ken

287 - The Future of Claims Processing: Insights from Brent Williams
Brent Williams, CEO of Benekiva, shares his journey from managing a large financial advisory firm to founding a claims automation company. He discusses industry challenges like legacy systems, fragmented data, and the transformative potential of AI in claims processing, emphasizing a human-centered approach to technology. Learn more about Benekiva: https://benekiva.com Tune into TAS for additional

286 - Nassau's CIO on Inflation, Interest Rates, and the Economic Impact of AI
In this episode of the That Annuity Show, Nassau Financial Group's Chief Investment Officer, Joe Orofino, joins Tisa Rabun-Marshall and Mark Fitzgerald to discuss current economic trends and the factors shaping today's investment landscape. The conversation explores inflation, interest rate movements, and how developments such as artificial intelligence and global trade policies may influence mark

285 - AI and Tech: What's Next for Annuities? Insights from David Novak
This episode of That Annuity Show brings together Paul Tyler, Bruno Caron, Tom Buckingham, James Wong and featured guest David Novak, CEO and Founder, Annuities Genius for a candid discussion on the intersection of AI and annuities. From conference insights to next-generation tools, they delve into how technology is reshaping client engagement, driving operational efficiency, and setting the stage

284 - Qiyun Cai on Why Insurance Agencies Leave Money on the Table (And How to Fix It)
Summary In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler and Bruno Caron engage with Qiyun Cai, founder and CEO of Fintary, to discuss the challenges and innovations in the insurance industry, of managing and optimizing compensation and revenue. Qiyun shares her background in insurance and technology, explaining how Fintary aims to streamline revenue growth through flexible compensation structures

283 - Portable, Bundled, Digital: Life Insurance for the Next Generation with Capgemini's Sam Chow
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler, Tisa Rabun-Marshall, and Bruno Caron talk with Samantha Chow from Capgemini to discuss the findings of the World Life Insurance Report. They explore consumer sentiment towards life insurance, the challenges of product design, and the importance of education in the industry. The conversation highlights global trends, the impact of societal shifts on

282 - Hot Markets, Smarter Machines: Ken Leibow at LIMRA
Live from the LIMRA Annual Conference, hosts Paul Tyler and guest co-host, Tom Rios sit down with Ken Leibow of InsurTech Express—a relentless chronicler of what's actually working across carriers and vendors. Ken breaks down the shift from AI talk to agentic AI doing, with underwriting workbenches embedding decision engines, Rx/MIB data, and scoring to move closer to instant decisions at point of

281 - Live from LIMRA - Next-Gen Policy Delivery and The Future of Carrier Communications
Live from the LIMRA Annual Conference, host Paul Tyler and guest host, Tom Rios explore the future of carrier communications with Stephanie Warren and Tim Mader of O'Neil Digital Solutions. The conversation looks beyond today's PDFs to a unified, intelligent platform where print and digital are orchestrated together—with auto-failover (email → mail), real-time delivery confirmation for agents, and

280 - AI, People, and Change: Jim Kerley Live from LIMRA
Recorded live on the floor of the LIMRA Annual Conference, host Paul Tyler and guest host, Tom Rios sit down with Jim Kerley, Managing Partner at Clearview Partners, for a candid conversation on what really moves the needle: going deep with AI (not broad), building a clear roadmap, and supporting people through constant change. Jim shares pragmatic guidance for carrier executives—how to future-pro

279 - A Discussion on the Future of Insurance Technology with Aspida's CIO and CTO
Join That Annuity Show hosts for an insightful discussion with Chief Information Officer, Alex Seidita, and Chief Technology Officer, Jason Pedone of Aspida. Hear about the benefits of an API-first architecture for straight-through processing and how they're exploring AI as a productivity multiplier rather than job replacement. The conversation explores the future of insurance technology, industry

278 - Nassau's CIO Joe Orofino on Fed Cuts, AI Risks, and Social Security
Nassau Financial Group's Chief Investment Officer, Joe Orofino joins Paul Tyler to analyze the current economic landscape and its impact on retirement planning. They examine how Federal Reserve rate cuts affect annuity products, discuss inflation expectations hovering around 3%, and explore the looming Social Security funding crisis. Orofino explains why higher long-term interest rates benefit the

Rerelease 262 – All Things MYGA with Jeff Affronti
Jeff Affronti, president and CEO of FSD Financial Services, joins our show to delve into the current landscape of annuities, focusing on market trends, the purpose of annuity laddering, and common strategies for younger investors. Jeff shares insights on using MYGAs for retirement income, the impact of inflation on annuities, and some of the latest product features and innovations in the industry.

277 - Joe Jordan on Navigating Change In World of Advice
Joe Jordan explores the importance of purpose in retirement, the impact of demographics, and the role of technology, including AI. Joseph emphasizes the significance of life insurance and social security in financial planning, advocating for a human-centered approach to financial services. The conversation highlights the need for advisors to adapt to changing client needs and the importance of und

276 - AM Best's Jason Hopper on How Rising Rates and Private Credit Are Reshaping Annuities
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler, Tisa Rabun-Marshall, and Bruno Caron speak with Jason Hopper of AM Best about the rapidly evolving annuity market. They discuss emerging product trends, the growing role of private equity and asset managers, shifts in asset portfolio strategies, and how credit risk evaluation is adapting to changing market conditions. The conversation also explores

275 - Magnifact's Krish Krishnan on Rewiring the Insurance Industry
Summary In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler speaks with Krish Krishnan, CEO and founder of Magnifact, about the company's mission to streamline data aggregation in the insurance industry. They discuss the challenges of data management, the importance of digital transformation, and how AI is set to revolutionize the industry. Krish shares insights on the evolving relationships between

274 - Joe Nunes on Navigating the Future of Retirement Planning
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler, Bruno Caron, and guest Joe Nunes discuss the evolution of retirement planning, focusing on the shift from defined benefit (DB) to defined contribution (DC) plans. They explore the challenges faced by retirees today, the role of annuities, and the importance of adequate contributions to ensure financial security in retirement. The conversation also

273 - Kartik Sakthivel on Driving AI Innovation Across The Insurance Industry
In this episode, Paul Tyler interviews Kartik Sakthivel, Vice President and CIO of LIMRA, discussing the transformative impact of AI on the insurance industry. They explore the evolution of AI, its ethical implications, and the importance of governance. Kartik shares insights from his personal journey in the industry and emphasizes the need for AI literacy and operational efficiency. The conversat

272 - Hedgeness Founder Jay Singh on Embedding AI In Carriers
In this episode, Paul Tyler and Tisa Rabun-Marshall discuss the intersection of annuities and AI with Jay Singh, founder of Hedgness. Jay and our hosts explore innovation in the annuity space, the importance of compliance, and how AI can enhance sales efficiency without disrupting existing workflows. Jay shares insights on successful AI implementation, the significance of meeting users where they

271 - Prudential, Global Atlantic, Conning & Zinnia on AI Transformation
Join executives from Prudential, Global Atlantic, Conning and Zinnia as they dive deep into how artificial intelligence is reshaping the life and annuity industry. Recorded at Hartford AI Day, this candid panel explores the real ROI of AI investments, the dramatic potential for call center cost reduction, and the critical 90% challenge that isn't technology—it's changing human behavior. Learn more

270 - Nassau's David Czerniecki On Tariffs, Bonds, and Nuclear Reactors
In this episode, Paul Tyler and David Czerniecki discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the interplay between tariffs, inflation, and economic indicators. They explore the implications of the bond market dynamics on the annuity industry, the impact of rising interest rates, and the role of AI and energy in shaping future market trends. David provides insights into the challenges pos

268 - Miles O'Keefe On Navigating Life's Transitions: Financial, Healthcare, and Funeral Planning
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler and Laura Dinan Haber welcome Miles O'Keefe, who shares his journey in the funeral and financial planning industry. The conversation explores the intersection of Medicare and financial planning, the role of technology in enhancing human-centered services, and the challenges of navigating change in the funeral industry. They discuss communication tre

267 - Roger Kahlon on Digital Transformation in the Annuity Industry
In this episode of That Annuity Show, host Paul Tyler welcomes Roger Kahlon, Vice President and Head of Consulting at Zinnia, to discuss key takeaways from the recent IRI Annual Conference. They explore the industry's digital transformation journey, including the Digital First initiative, the growing importance of Contingent Deferred Annuities (CDAs), and the need for standardization and collabora

266 - Bill Bengen, The Creator of the 4% Rule, Looks Ahead At Creating Safe Retirement Income
In this episode of That Annuity Show, we welcome Bill Bengen, the creator of the 4% rule, to discuss the evolution of retirement planning strategies. Bill shares insights into the origins of the 4% rule, its mechanics, and how it has been adapted in his upcoming book. The conversation delves into the eight essential elements of a comprehensive retirement withdrawal plan, the impact of inflation an

265 - Philip Chao on Building Guaranteed Income At The Workplace
Philip Chao, a leading voice in the 401(k) space shares his sharp focus on creating guaranteed retirement income. The conversation explores Philip's background, his companies, and the evolving landscape of annuities within retirement plans. Key themes include the role of fiduciaries, the integration of annuities into target date funds, and the future of guaranteed income products in the retirement

264 - Oceanview's Ben Faught on The Pricing Challenges of Annuities
Today, we welcome Ben Faught, Chief Actuary at Oceanview Life. The conversation delves into the success story of Oceanview Life, its unique investment strategies focusing on mortgage-backed securities, and the challenges and considerations in pricing annuities. Ben shares insights on market trends, the importance of understanding asset-liability matching, and the future of fixed index annuities in

263 -Tom Totten and Building Lifetime Income through ESOPs
Tom Totten, an actuary and serial entrepreneur, shares his journey from a defined benefit consultant to advising companies on Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs). The conversation delves into the intricacies of ESOPs, their guarantees, and the liquidity risks associated with them. Tom discusses the purpose of lifetime income strategies, including the use of annuities, and reflects on the evolvi

262 - All Things MYGA with Jeff Affronti
Jeff Affronti, president and CEO of FSD Financial Services joins our show to delve into the current landscape of annuities, focusing on market trends, the purpose of annuity laddering, and common strategies for younger investors. Jeff shares insights on using MYGAs for retirement income, the impact of inflation on annuities, and some of the latest product features and innovations in the industry.

261 - In-Plan Annuities 101 with Ramsey Smith & Graham Clark
In this episode, Paul Tyler, Ramsey Smith, and Graham Clark discuss the emerging opportunities in in-plan annuities inside 401k plans. They explore the importance of guaranteed income, the skills needed for insurance carriers to compete effectively, and the strategic partnerships necessary for success. The conversation delves into product design, the role of target date funds, and the significance

260 - Deloitte's Dan McCoach on AI, Cyberthreats and Transforming the Insurance Industry
Paul Tyler and Bruno Caron welcome Deloitte's Insurance Practice leader Dan McCoach to discuss how technology is reshaping the life and annuity industry. The conversation explores four practical applications of AI delivering immediate value: automating developer workflows, enhancing back-office efficiency, streamlining document processing, and drafting complex communications. McCoach offers a fasc

259 - Nassau's David Czerniecki on Tariffs, AI and Productivity
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler and Chief Investment Officer, David Czerniecki of Nassau discuss the current economic landscape, focusing on tariffs, inflation, cryptocurrency, and the impact of AI on productivity. They explore the volatility of markets compared to the economy, the implications of tariffs on manufacturing and inflation, and the speculative nature of Bitcoin. The c

258 - ALEXIncome's Ramsey Smith and Graham Clark on In-plan Annuities
Ramsey Smith and Graham Clark share insights on the challenges of securing retirement income, the importance of 401k plans, and the need for effective stakeholder engagement. They explore how ALEXIncome aims to provide sustainable solutions that bridge the gap between traditional retirement income sources and modern investment strategies, emphasizing the significance of education and transparency

257 - Security Benefit's Toby Leonard on Growing Annuity Sales in the RIA Channel
Summary In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler interviews Toby Leonard, Assistant Vice President of Product Development at Security Benefit. They discuss the evolution of annuities, particularly fixed index annuities, and their role in financial planning. The conversation highlights the importance of education, technology, and the impact of AI on the insurance industry. They also explore

256 - Celent's Karen Monks on Technology Trends
Karen Monks, a principal analyst at Celent, discusses the intersection of technology and life insurance. Karen shares her insights on how AI is transforming underwriting processes, the impact of COVID on consumer behavior, and the driving forces behind technology adoption in the insurance industry. The conversation also explores the challenges of integrating legacy systems with modern technology,

255 - Oceanview's Jim Ryan on Building Success Through Simplicity
In this episode of That Annuity Show, hosts Paul Tyler and Bruno Caron welcome Jim Ryan, Executive Director and Head of Distribution at Oceanview, to discuss the company's growth since its 2019 launch. Jim shares insights into how Oceanview has established itself in the annuity market. The conversation explores the evolution of both MYGA and FIA products, the critical importance of technological i

254 - IRI's Katherine Dease On Transforming Annuities - Turning Data Challenges Into Digital Solutions
Katherine Dease, the Chief Technology and Innovation Officer for Insured Retirement Institute (IRI) discusses the future of annuities and how the Digital First Initiative could accelerate growth. With special guest host, Michael Celi, Chief Product Officer of Zinnia, Katherine shares insights on the challenges of modernizing the annuity industry, particularly the data problems that hinder innovati

253 - Sheryl Moore with Michele Trogni on Transforming Retirement
In this episode industry leaders Sheryl Moore, Wink Inc., and Michele Trogni, CEO of Zinnia, a guest host, explore the evolving landscape of insurance and annuities, from digital transformation challenges to opportunities for growth. The discussion weaves together Moore's journey from personal investment challenges to becoming the "Annuity Rockstar" with Trogni's vision for technological innovatio

252 - Catching Up With Joe Jordan
In this episode, Paul Tyler and Bruno Caron catch up with Joe Jordan, a leading voice in purpose-driven planning, to discuss the evolving landscape of retirement. They explore the importance of finding meaning and purpose in retirement, the challenges posed by an aging population, and the emotional aspects of retirement that financial advisors often overlook. The conversation emphasizes the need f

251 - Arun Muralidhar on SeLFIES And A New Option for Retirement Security
div]:bg-bg-300 [&_.ignore-pre-bg>div]:bg-transparent [&_pre]:-mr-4 md:[&_pre]:-mr-9"> _*]:min-w-0"> In this episode, Paul Tyler and Bruno Caron welcome back Arun Muralidhar, co-founder of Alpha Engine Global Investment Solutions, to explore "SeLFIES" (Standard of Living Indexed, Forward-starting, Income-only Securities), an innovative retirement solution he developed with Nobel laureate Robert Mer

250 - Josh Everett and Team Discuss The Impact of India on the U.S. Annuity Market
In this episode, host Paul Tyler broadcasts from Noida, India, where he visits Zinnia's offices and speaks with their leadership team including Josh Everett (CEO of Zinnia India), Kapil Bhardwaj (Head of Global Processing), Pawan Choudhary (CTO), Rajan Agarwal (Head of Exchange Solutions), and Eti Gupta (Head of Marketing). Key highlights: Zinnia's India operations manage an impressive 1.4 million

248 - Kerra Bolton - Telling The Story Of Retirement Planning
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler and Tisa Rabun-Marshall engage with Kerra Bolton, a prolific writer and independent journalist, who shares her diverse career journey and insights into the retirement space. The conversation explores the challenges of career reinvention, the importance of understanding consumer concerns in retirement planning, and the role of fear and motivation in

248 - David Czernieki on Tariffs, AI, & Nuclear Power
In this episode, Paul Tyler and David Czerniecki, Chief Investment Officer for Nassau, discuss the rapidly changing economic landscape, touching on global political trends, the implications of tariffs, market predictions, energy dynamics influenced by AI, and the impact of interest rates on the insurance industry. They explore how these factors interconnect and shape the future of the economy, emp

247 - ITC: Climate, Risk, and Retirement Security
div]:bg-bg-300 [&_.ignore-pre-bg>div]:bg-transparent [&_pre]:-mr-4 md:[&_pre]:-mr-9"> _*]:min-w-0"> Susan Winkler of CT IFS joins Paul Tyler as a guest host to discuss their interviews from InsureTech Connect (ITC) in Las Vegas. The podcast explores the critical intersection of climate risk and insurtech innovation, featuring conversations recorded during the conference. The episode includes insig

246 - Suzanne Norman and The Emotional Landscape of Retirement
In this episode of That Annuity Show, host Paul Tyler, along with guests Bruno Caron and Tisa Rabun-Marshall, engage in a comprehensive discussion with retirement planning expert Suzanne Norman. They explore the complexities of retirement planning, including the emotional landscape retirees face, the importance of financial literacy, and the concept of 'Peak 65' as a significant demographic shift.

245 - ITC: AI Innovation in Life Insurance & Annuities
Susan Winkler of CT IFS joins Paul Tyler as a guest host to discuss their interviews from InsureTech Connect (ITC) in Las Vegas. The podcast captures conversations with key industry leaders about AI innovation in the life and annuity sector, recorded during the conference. The episode features interviews with Nagesh Cherukupalli from Cognizant, who introduces the "Three I's" framework for AI imple

244 - Sri Reddy on Navigating The Annuity Landscape
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler, Bruno Caron, and Ramsey Smith discuss the importance of reaching more people in the annuity industry with their products. They are joined by Sri Reddy, Sri Reddy, senior vice president of Retirement and Income Solutions at Principal® and a Principal Securities Registered Representative, who shares insights on retirement income solutions, pension ri

243 - Mike Odor and Branislav Nikolic on Making Sense of FIA Allocations
Today, Mike Odor, Head of Annuity Sales at Midland National Life Insurance Company and Branislav Nikolic, Managing Director, Head of Insurance at The Index Standard join us to talk about a new approach to guiding agents on how to think about recommending FIA index strategy allocations. They share insights on how the Index Standard is helping to streamline the decision-making process for agents and

242 - Sheryl J. Moore on the Future of Annuity Innovation
Join host Paul Tyler and annuity professional Sheryl J. Moore for an illuminating discussion on the transformation of the annuity market. From innovative product design to illustration challenges, Moore shares invaluable insights on making annuities more accessible to consumers. With co-hosts Tisa Rabun-Marshall and Bruno Caron. Chapters: 0:00 - Introduction 5:13 - Current State of Annuity Market

241 - Lesley Mann and David Macchia on Redefining Retirement Security
In this enlightening episode, GBU Life's Chief Marketing Officer Lesley Mann and Wealth2K founder David Macchia discuss innovative approaches to retirement planning. They introduce the concept of a "defined benefit investor" and explore how new annuity products can provide guaranteed income for younger generations. The conversation delves into the challenges of modernizing the insurance industry,

240 - Jan Buchsbaum and Speeding Annuities to Market
Summary In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler introduces a new chapter for the podcast, featuring co-hosts Tisa Rabun-Marshall, Bruno Caron, and Michael Celi, Chief Product Officer for Zinnia. The discussion revolves around the evolution of the insurance industry, particularly focusing on product design, innovation, and the importance of understanding consumer needs. Jan Buchbaum, Chief

239 - Improving Customer Experience to Grow Annuity Sales
In this episode of The Annuity Show, Paul Tyler, Ramsey Smith, and Tisa Rabun-Marshall interview Justin Wee and Jayant Walia from Gainbridge Insurance, A Group 1001 Company. They discuss the innovative approach of Gainbridge, a financial collective of companies focused on insurance products. Gainbridge aims to reach underserved markets, particularly tech-savvy and younger individuals, by providing

238 - Is The AI Industry In A Bubble with David Czerniecki
In this episode, Paul Tyler interviews David Czerniecki, Nassau's Chief Investment Officer, and discusses the impact of interest rates, AI, presidential elections, and global conflicts on the insurance industry and the global economy. They talk about the expectations of interest rate cuts by the Fed and the implications for the insurance industry. They also discuss the potential bubble in AI stock

237 - The Future of Retiretech With Michael Kalen
In this episode of That Annuity Show, the hosts discuss the latest headlines in Retiretech and interview Michael Kalen, the CEO of Covr. They explore the impact of technology on retirement planning, the role of annuities in financial planning, and the changing landscape of the industry. They also touch on the influence of regulation and the potential for AI in the future. The conversation highligh

236 - Finding Success In Worksite Marketing With The OneKonnect Team
In this episode of That Annuity Show, the discussion revolves around the evolving landscape of workplace marketing for brokers, producers, and advisors in the insurance industry. The guests, Ash Rofail, Yuval Sternshos, and David Cohen, the management team of OneKonnect, discuss the role of technology, data, and AI in improving the user experience, optimizing benefits, and increasing sales in the

235 - Why I Bought Fixed Annuities With Sheryl J. Moore
In this episode of That Annuity Show, hosts Paul Tyler, Ramsey Smith, and Bruno Caron interview Sheryl J. Moore, Chief Storyteller of Wink, Inc. and author of a new book on indexed annuities. The discussion covers various aspects of the annuity industry, including product complexity, consumer education, and common misconceptions about annuities. Sheryl shares her personal experiences and insights,

234 - A Fresh Perspective On Retirement Solutions With Arun Muralidhar
In this episode of That Annuity Show, the hosts are joined by Arun Muralidhar, an expert in retirement security. Arun shares his journey and insights into the retirement industry, including his fight against the privatization of pensions and the need for guaranteed retirement income. He introduces the concept of Selfies (Standard of Living, Indexed, Forward Starting, Income Only Securities), a bon

233 - Finding, Funding and Improving The Future Retirement of GenX and GenZ
Join us as we revisit a panel discussion from Retiretech Vegas, April 2024: When should retirement planning start? How should the experience change not only for Baby Boomers but for Millenials, Gen Z, and Gen Y? We will talk about innovations in product and engagement that will change how the process occurs in the future. Moderator: Jonathan Kalman, EOS Ventures Speakers: Alison Susko, Asset–Map;

232 - Seeking Stable Growth - Designing The Next Generation of Annuities
Join us as we revisit a panel discussion from Retiretech Vegas, April 2024 Seeking Stable Growth - Designing The Next Generation of Annuities In the past decade, interest in fixed-indexed annuities has surged, grabbing a substantial market share. With ongoing innovation in indices and shifts in the macroeconomic landscape, various crediting strategies have emerged. Looking ahead to 2024, amidst pe

231 - Creating An Annuity Marketing Assistant With AI
In this episode, Paul Tyler, Tisa Rabun-Marshall, Laura Dinan Haber, and Heather Brown discuss the challenges and opportunities of implementing AI in the insurance industry. They highlight the importance of making digital marketing expertise accessible for agents and the need for customized content at scale. The team shares their experiences with generative AI and the feedback they have received f

230 - The Power Of Personal Branding With Ema Roloff
Summary In this episode, Emma Roloff, co-founder of Roloff Consulting, discusses the power of personal branding and digital transformation in sales and marketing. She shares a three-step framework for digital growth strategies: educate, connect, and consult. Emma explains the different platforms and their target demographics, including LinkedIn for professionals, Facebook for older demographics, I

229 - Shifting Distribution and Changing Minds With Jim Kerley
Summary In this episode of That Annuity Show, Jim Kerley discusses his report titled 'Shifting Distribution, Changing Mindset: Why Advisors Aren't Talking to Consumers About Life Insurance.' The report explores the reasons why some advisors are not discussing life insurance with their clients and the implications for the industry. Kerley's report emphasizes that there is a demand for life insuranc

228 - The Shape of Distribution To Come
Join us as we revisit a panel from Retiretech Vegas 2024: Consolidation has permanently changed the face of independent distribution forever. Or has it? We will explore the next phase of consolidation and new forms of distribution that may potentially evolve. Moderator: James Wong, Partners Advantage Speakers: Patrick Kelly, Signal Advisors; Tyler End, Retirable; Wes Severin, Symetra; Brian Lucius

227 - Quarterly Economic Update With David Czerniecki
In this episode of That Annuity Show, Paul Tyler and David Czerniecki are joined by John Beshoory to discuss the energy sector and the impact of technology on the economy. They explore the fundamental changes happening in the energy sector, such as the shift towards renewable energy sources like solar and wind. They also discuss the role of technology, particularly AI, in driving energy consumptio

226 - The Practical Problems of Turning Assets Into Income With Mark Shemtob
Merging the worlds of investment and income planning is no small challenge. Mark Shemtob, Fellow of the Society of Actuaries and CFP does this every day with his clients. Mark approaches retirement income from three perspectives: as an actuary, working with individuals, and working with retirement plans. He emphasizes the importance of diversification and the combination of investments and annuiti

225 - Generating Retirement Prospects Online with a Smaller Budget With Alex Khassa
In this episode, Paul Tyler, Bruno Caron, and Ramsey Smith interview Alex Khassa, CEO and founder of Clients Black Box, Inc., about his success in helping financial advisors get more clients virtually using Facebook ads. Alex shares his backstory and how he transitioned from being a fractional CMO to focusing on helping financial advisors. He explains his unique approach to Facebook ads and the im

224 - Using AI to Generate Real-Time Market Insights With Jens Nordvig
In this episode of That Annuity Show, the hosts discuss the use of AI in financial advisory services with guest Jens Nordvig, CEO of Exante Data and co-founder and CEO of Market Reader. Nordvig explains how Market Reader uses AI to generate real-time market insights and explanations for various assets and events. The tool scans multiple sources, including news wires and social media, with the goal

223 - Tech Modernization: Retiretech Keynote feat. Michele Trogni
Today's episode is a special keynote recorded at RetiretechTM Vegas on April 9, 2024, where host Paul Tyler welcomes Michele Trogni, CEO of Zinnia, to discuss the transformative impact of technology on the life annuity and health business. Trogni highlights how technology is bringing transparency, simplification, standardization, and productivity to the industry, revolutionizing the retirement sec

222 - Bridging the Gap: Annuities in Retirement Planning
Join hosts Paul Tyler, Tisa Rabun-Marshall, Bruno Caron, Ramsey Smith, and guest Graham Clark from Alex Income as they delve into the pivotal role annuities can play in retirement planning. Learn more about ALEX.fyi: https://alex.fyi and ALEXIncome: https://alexincome.com Connect with Ramsey Smith, Founder and CEO: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramseydsmith/ Connect with Graham Clark, Partner and He

221 - Navigating Retirement Futures: Unveiling the Investment Horizons of 2024
In this episode, we delve into the dynamic landscape of annuities and retirement markets, exploring the promising opportunities of 2024 amidst the evolving Retiretech scene. Join moderator Doug Roth of CT Innovations and industry experts Ray Jang from Primetime Partners, Marie-Christine Razaire representing Northwestern Mutual Future Ventures, and Andrew Wegrzyn of SixThirty Ventures as they discu

220 - Insuring Tomorrow: Navigating AI, Regulation, and Innovation
In this episode of That Annuity Show, recorded live at RetiretechTM Vegas, we delve into the dynamic interplay between technology, regulation, and innovation within the insurance industry. Our panelists, including Commissioners Andrew Mais from Connecticut, Nathan Houdek from Wisconsin, Kathleen Birrane from Maryland, and Troy Downing from Montana, along with moderator George Esposito of Zinnia, l

219 - Joe Jordan Live From Retiretech Las Vegas
On April 8-10, we held our third RetiretechTM event...this time in Las Vegas. Joe Jordan joined us as a keynote speaker. The next day, we caught up with him in the expo hall of RetiretechTM Las Vegas and talked to him more about the future of purpose-driven retirement planning. Learn more: https://imagine.nfg.com/retiretech-2024/

218 - Annuities and The Income Path with Tamiko Toland and Michael Finke
Tamiko Toland and Michael Finke join us today as founders of Income Path. Income Path is a tool that visualizes retirement income paths and the impact of annuities on that journey. A conversation with Bill Sharpe in 2018 provided the spark for this new venture. The tool aims to shift the narrative from fear-based discussions to positive outcomes and flexibility. It allows individuals to modulate t

217 - The Peak 65 Zone Is Here With Jason Fichtner
217 - The Peak 65 Zone Is Here With Jason Fichtner Jason Fichtner, Chief Economist, Bipartisan Policy Center & Executive Director, Retirement Income Institute, Alliance for Lifetime Income joins us today to talk to us about his latest paper. Jason recently released the 2024 edition of "The Peak 65® Zone Is Here – Creating A New Framework For America's Retirement Security". On our show, Jason Ficht

216 - Managing A Soft Landing For The Economy Despite Global Turbulence With David Czerniecki
In this episode, Paul Tyler and David Czerniecki, Chief Investment Officer for Nassau, discusss various economic topics, including China's economic slowdown, energy prices, inflation, and global conflicts. They explore the implications of these issues on the global economy and provide insights into potential future developments. Takeaways China's economic slowdown has implications for the equity m

215 - Learning About Empathy With Ron Gura
Summary Ron Gura, the co-founder and CEO of Empathy joins us today on our show. Empathy aims to provide support and guidance to individuals who have lost a loved one, helping them navigate the administrative and emotional aspects of the process. He shares his personal journey and the inspiration behind starting Empathy. The conversation delves into the workflow and touchpoints of Empathy's service

214 - How The Annuity Industry Will Continue to Evolve With Andy Unkefer
Summary Andrew Unkefer, an industry legend joins us to talk about the importance of relationships in the industry, the impact of technology, the future of the producer and IMO space, the shift to virtual meetings, consolidation in the industry, the impact of regulation, and the integration of estate planning and financial solutions. Andrew also shares his personal focus and future plans. Takeaways

213 - Building A Next Generation Service And Technology Provider with Michele Trogni
Zinnia provides technology and administrative services to over 40 life, annuity, and retirement carriers. We had the opportunity to discuss the future of insurance service and technology with Michele Trogni, CEO at Zinnia and Operating partner at Eldridge, and George Esposito, General Counsel, Head of Business Development for Zinnia in their Greenwich, CT offices. As it just so happened, Zinnia an

212 - Navigating New Proposed DOL Rules With Michelle Richter-Gordon
Summary In this episode, Paul Tyler and his guests discuss the Department of Labor's new rules and their implications for insurance agents. They explore the impact on independent agents and the potential migration towards the RIA industry. The conversation also touches on public policy considerations and the need for proper regulation. Michelle Richter-Gordon shares her insights and highlights the

211 - The Future Shape of Annuities Distribution With James Wong
Summary James Wong, our guest today, shares his perspective on the future of annuity distribution. The main takeaway…build strong relationships today in order to navigate the changing landscape of the industry tomorrow. The conversation covers industry associations, survey work, product innovation, acquisitions, and the implications for agents and agencies. James also introduces the concept of the
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